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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mranswer: 9:39pm On Nov 23, 2015
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with inexperience people who haven't faced a main war or battle after all all they do is cruise around town and hunt buffaloes with their Apcs,Mpav's

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Nov 23, 2015
agaugust:


Its a mix of different old and new videos, first jets flying were old Mirage F-1 not Cheetah, Mirage was long retired before 2005 you fool !
Dude?? didnt you understand the video?? the first few seconds shows how the old equipment of the SANDF/SADF morphs into the newer equipment....The Mirage morphed into the Cheetah, the G5 into the G6, the Olifant 1 into the MK1b..........the actual exercised that was filmed was from 2005!

Wake up please!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:39pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


There armoured vehicles are always so close to each other. A bomb feast for any insurgent.

LOL....easy target for Boko Haram barrage of RPGs coming from all directions. For a Boko Haram 105 mm artillery shell, it's feasting time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mranswer: 9:40pm On Nov 23, 2015
Visit nigerian_armed.forces page on ig them you'll know what I'm talking about
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:41pm On Nov 23, 2015
jln115:

Dude?? didnt you understand the video?? the first few seconds shows how the old equipment of the SANDF/SADF morphs into the newer equipment....The Mirage morphed into the Cheetah, the G5 into the G6, the Olifant 1 into the MK1b..........the actual exercised that was filmed was from 2005!

Wake up please!!

Oh, you now agree it was old Mirage F1....LOL....now show proof of time date stamp or narration, or else shutt da fvck up with ya fraud !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:42pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


"What's the Ratel?" undecidedundecidedundecided

30 year old obsolete welded steel junk, ugly like Medusa !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:43pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


"What's the Ratel?" undecidedundecidedundecided
Sarcasm! well played wink
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:44pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


- Mumu, "so can a version of Igirgi carry ATGMs".


- Dual 23mm means double the fire power. 43mm worth of rushing kinetic energy, not even the Hulk can withstand that.

ZSU-23 also fires Armour Piercing shells and we have them aplenty in our ordnance stores.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:49pm On Nov 23, 2015
agaugust:


Oh, you now agree it was old Mirage F1....LOL....now show proof of time date stamp or narration, or else shutt da fvck up with ya fraud !
Are you fvcking retaarded?.......Oh? Wait never mind!.......Anyway i see you couldn't comprehend the meaning of the first minute of the video, cant say im suprised, oh and BTW it wasnt a Mirage F1 .
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Nov 23, 2015
agaugust:


LOL....easy target for Boko Haram barrage of RPGs coming from all directions. For a Boko Haram 105 mm artillery shell, it's feasting time.
Jap Boko Harm will destroy us BUT the Cubans and Angolans with much more advanced Soviet equipment and a proper airforce did Fokol to us!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:54pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


- Mumu, "so can a version of Igirgi carry ATGMs".


- Dual 23mm means double the fire power. 43mm worth of rushing kinetic energy, not even the Hulk can withstand that.
No!! Henry!!!! shocked shocked shocked hahahahahahahah did you seriously just wright that?? hahahahahahahah!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:01pm On Nov 23, 2015
agaugust:


30 year old obsolete welded steel junk, ugly like Medusa !
And by ugly, you mean totally bada$$ looking!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:14pm On Nov 23, 2015
jln115:

No!! Henry!!!! shocked shocked shocked hahahahahahahah did you seriously just wright that?? hahahahahahahah!!!

You are retaarded!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:17pm On Nov 23, 2015
mranswer:
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with inexperience people who haven't faced a main war or battle after all all they do is cruise around town and hunt buffaloes with their Apcs,Mpav's

Buhahahahahahahahahaha!

You just "owned the Nation of South-Africa" in one post!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


You are retaarded!
Oh really?? did you see what you wrote??
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Nov 23, 2015
jln115:

Oh really?? did you see what you wrote??

You never heard the word "sarcasm" before? It was written all over that comment, mumu!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:58pm On Nov 23, 2015
jln115:

Jap Boko Harm will destroy us BUT the Cubans and Angolans with much more advanced Soviet equipment and a proper airforce did Fokol to us!!

even if you lie on nairaland.. history does not lie.

[b] The Cubans, together with Angolan and SWAPO forces advanced
toward Namibia. This advance exposed the insecurity and
vulnerability of the South African troops in northern Namibia. Such
was this vulnerability that a senior South African officer said, “Had
the Cubans attacked [Namibia] they would have over-run the
place. We could not have stopped them.” This was further
compounded by South African debacles at the end of June 1988 at
Calueque and Tchipia, where the South Africans suffered serious
defeats, which were described by a South African newspaper as “a
crushing humiliation.” Cuba also achieved air supremacy. Facing
the new powerful force assembled in southern Angola and having
lost control of the skies, the South Africans withdrew from Angola.


In southern Africa, the battle has attained legendary
status. It is considered the debacle of apartheid: a defeat of the
South African armed forces that altered the balance of power in
the region and heralded the demise of racist rule in South Africa.
Cuito Cuanavale decisively thwarted Pretoria’s objective of
establishing regional hegemony (a strategy which was vital to
defending and preserving apartheid), directly led to the
independence of Namibia and accelerated the dismantling of
apartheid.[/b]
http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/news/article/2875/paying-the-debt-to-africa-on-the-40th-anniversary-of-cubarsquos-operacioacuten-carlota

the attack had failed thanks to a valiant
defense effort by Cuban and Angolan troops, and the South Africans
had lost 50 aircraft, 47 tanks and hundreds of men.


http://www.rhodesia.nl/cuito.htm

please take a moment to read SA crushing defeat by Cuba... thank you

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:05pm On Nov 23, 2015
jln115:

Jap Boko Harm will destroy us BUT the Cubans and Angolans with much more advanced Soviet equipment and a proper airforce did Fokol to us!!

That war was not on your homeland territory, let's see one day how SANDF will cope with 20,000 Boko Haram brutal killers (20,000 is already about half your army o!) spread all over 100 cities and towns living among innocent civilians in your country including 10 secret terror camps in Kruger park bush land, then we will see how you easily fight a cancer that is inside your own stomach !

SANDF has not been battle tested by Nigerian standards.

Keep driving around town in MRAP vehicles taking photos of your half dead HIV sick army with 30 battalions of your troops already weakened by HIV virus before any war even starts
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:23pm On Nov 23, 2015
South African militia group is only perfect on photographs... taking pictures up and down.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:40pm On Nov 23, 2015
lionel4power:


even if you lie on nairaland.. history does not lie.

[b] The Cubans, together with Angolan and SWAPO forces advanced
toward Namibia. This advance exposed the insecurity and
vulnerability of the South African troops in northern Namibia. Such
was this vulnerability that a senior South African officer said, “Had
the Cubans attacked [Namibia] they would have over-run the
place. We could not have stopped them.” This was further
compounded by South African debacles at the end of June 1988 at
Calueque and Tchipia, where the South Africans suffered serious
defeats, which were described by a South African newspaper as “a
crushing humiliation.” Cuba also achieved air supremacy. Facing
the new powerful force assembled in southern Angola and having
lost control of the skies, the South Africans withdrew from Angola.


In southern Africa, the battle has attained legendary
status. It is considered the debacle of apartheid: a defeat of the
South African armed forces that altered the balance of power in
the region and heralded the demise of racist rule in South Africa.
Cuito Cuanavale decisively thwarted Pretoria’s objective of
establishing regional hegemony (a strategy which was vital to
defending and preserving apartheid), directly led to the
independence of Namibia and accelerated the dismantling of
apartheid.[/b]
http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/news/article/2875/paying-the-debt-to-africa-on-the-40th-anniversary-of-cubarsquos-operacioacuten-carlota

the attack had failed thanks to a valiant
defense effort by Cuban and Angolan troops, and the South Africans
had lost 50 aircraft, 47 tanks and hundreds of men.


http://www.rhodesia.nl/cuito.htm

please take a moment to read SA crushing defeat by Cuba... thank you
1. cuba-solidarity ?? Seems like a reputable and objective source, doesnt it?

2. Your second source is 100% correct, the Cuban victory was as mythical as a Unicorn!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:44pm On Nov 23, 2015
Henry240:


You never heard the word "sarcasm" before? It was written all over that comment, mumu!
Sarcasm?? uhm?? so in that case you agree with Patches that a 30mm cannon will be more effective than a dual 23mm cannon....Or was your sarcasm at such an advanced level that you fvcked yourself with it to?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:53pm On Nov 23, 2015
agaugust:


That war was not on your homeland territory,1. let's see one day how SANDF will cope with 20,000 Boko Haram brutal killers (20,000 is already about half your army o!) spread all over 100 cities and towns living among innocent civilians in your country including 10 secret terror camps in Kruger park bush land, then we will see how you easily fight a cancer that is inside your own stomach !

2. SANDF has not been battle tested by Nigerian standards.

3. Keep driving around town in MRAP vehicles taking photos of your half dead HIV sick army with 30 battalions of your troops already weakened by HIV virus before any war even starts
.
1.Never going to happen, Boko Harm would've been destroyed before they even knew they existed, if the same happened in SA. And BTW Boko Harm is a ragtag rebel group, South Africa on the other hand has fought modern and properly equipped militaries with proper air forces.

2. I agree 100%, we havent been battle tested at the same low standards as Nigeria.

3.Not worth responding to.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:04am On Nov 24, 2015
jln115:


Never going to happen, Boko Harm would've been destroyed before they even knew they existed, if the same happened in SA. And BTW Boko Harm is a ragtag rebel group, South Africa on the other hand has fought modern and properly equipped militaries with proper air forces.


Same way France destroyed 8 terrorists before they massacred 130 people in Paris this month ..... Fool....Pretoria will collapse under such unconventional attack ! Fool, comparing conventional Angola Cuban war with asymmetric war that even USA army is using PMC to learn how to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 4:51am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF obsolete training and combat tactics is like a football match set piece....

Goalkeeper stand still there and defenders line up there, We will line up our team here, we want to play free kick now o !


.
I love this description of a rugby game. Very funny.

Playing cricket and rugby is what they do. It doesn't even help them protect there borders.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:49am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


Igirigi is not firing 23 mm x 2 cannot at underneath the chassis of Mbombe you dunce ! Igirigi is shooting the body/hull and killing all occupants.

The comparison is "in general" - and in general the mbombe is better armored in every single way meaning it is the better vehical

The fact that you refuse to post any technicle deatils for the igirururur shows us that you know it is inferior and are only interested in argument for the sake of argument
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:49am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


Light infantry doctrine, motorized infantry. He is NOT a trained armoured corp or artillery soldier.

Citation needed
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:52am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


You catch only hungry harmeless immigrants looking for jobs.....and not up to 80,000.

The armed criminals walk under the open legs of a confused SANDF that fails in it's mandate at home to protect your fatherland grin grin

2000 criminals were upreheneded in the same period of time

Again - you ignore nigerias piracy problem, niger delta security crises and boko haram

Nigerian army may as well sh1t on its mandate because that is all it is good for at this point - toilet paper

People in glass houses

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:52am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


So you have no proof it's me....I said prove it now !

Same name on a nigerian military forum

Writes in the same style

Its your job ti prove its not you
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:53am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


What year to what year?

Your google is broken?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:55am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


What is the name of that sport then....soccer, tennis...basketball ?

LOL....Cape Colony half-wit, Combat Proficiency Competition is NOT a sports proficiency competition.

The title and major general's speech tells it all.

That video shocked you.

LOL.....let me torment Southies again.....in 2009 Nigerian army, navy, and air force had a major brigade level exercise called OPERATION OLOGUN META.....local language meaning three armed forces.



"A Brigade of the Nigerian Army, three mother naval cat class-warships – NNS KYANWA, NNS OBULA and NNS NWAMBA - and six squadrons of Nigerian Air Force aircraft are participating in in the exercise. Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike, explained that the conduct of the joint exercise was borne out of “the desire to exercise our troops in a tri-service setting.


The exercise involved beach landing operations, riverine operations and insertion of troops, advance quick attack, deliberate attack phase and internal security operations.

Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike, explained that the conduct of the joint exercise was borne out of “the desire to exercise our troops in a tri-service setting in year 2009.

The exercise, he said, “will essentially serve as a platform for us to test our intelligence gathering abilities, check the interoperability of our communication facilities as well as testing our Command and Control capability. At the end of the whole exercise, the lessons learnt will be used in improving our operational procedures in current and future operations,” he said.

The Nigerian military last held an exercise of this magnitude in May 2004, when it organised Operation TAKUTE EKPE in Lagos.

The exercise climaxed display of months of operations, weeks of reconnaissance and days of rehearsals. The officers and men involved in JOPEX 09 were involved in beach landing operations, harbour defence, riverine operations and insertion of troops, advance quick attack, deliberate attack phase and Internal Security Operations (ISOs).

The beach landing part of the exercise had commenced last Monday just as the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike was finishing his welcome address. It involved the simulation of naval and combat aircraft bombardments boomed all around the surrounding beachfront, signalling the start of assault on enemy positions."

http://www.panapress.com/Joint-military-exercise-kicks-off-in-Nigeria--13-523780-17-lang2-index.html



I just gave you two other, even bigger NAF + NN + NA joint service military exercise at brigade level in modern times.

1. Operation TAKUTE EKPE....year 2004

2. Operation OLOGUN META.....year 2009

Shame on ALL Southie liars, Nigerian military conducts regular brigade level and above joint army, navy, air force exercises shocked shocked
.

1, Military sports day - competition based on military skills

2. One brigade sized exercise in 20 years?

SANDF has a minimum of 2 per year - and tou could only manage one in twenty?

Pathetic
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:57am On Nov 24, 2015
agaugust:


Fool and liar, Sagaie gun fired up to 1660m NOT the fvcking lie of 900m

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3586.html

Rooikat gun cannot shoot straight....it's a naval gun put on a army vehicle, reason why it missed target during the sea exercise in South Africa, Mr.Day was targeted and 76mm gun missed, Mr.Day is enjoying with is wife as we speak !

1. Rooikat gun proven by military source to be accurate up to 2km and STILL OUTRANGES THE SAIGIE
2. Who said Mr Day was targetted with 76mm?
3. Germans admitted they fired upon him

You dont have any argument here move on

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:58am On Nov 24, 2015
Henry240:


- Mumu, "so can a version of Igirgi carry ATGMs".


- Dual 23mm means double the fire power. 46mm worth of rushing kinetic energy, not even the Hulk can withstand that.

- Nigerians cannot fit atgms on the vehicale
- No, it means 23mm of kinetic energy

30mm > 23mm

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