Henry240:
Turkish F-16 has shot down a Russian SU-30SM.

Let's wait for more substantiated sources. The Su-30SM is more then capable of handling a F-16 unless the SU had no air to air ordinance at the time.

Henry240:

Because of what gun we put on it?
Who says we can't put ATGMs on them?

Ok tell me what ATGM will you put on it.

patches689:


1, Military sports day - competition based on military skills

2. One brigade sized exercise in 20 years?

SANDF has a minimum of 2 per year - and tou could only manage one in twenty?

Pathetic

I killed every Southie with this weblink, wrecked all your false claims that only you do brigade level exer :

http://www.panapress.com/Joint-military-exercise-kicks-off-in-Nigeria--13-523780-17-lang2-index.html

2004 and 2009, add the 2014 final offensive mock war game.....multiple brigade and division size exercise every 5 years.....how did you calculate that as once in 20 years? As I said earlier you are the dullest fruit every grown on your ancestral family tree
.

agaugust:


Igirigi was never meant to have an MRAP chassis, same way Ratel does not have it. Vehicles are built for specific purposes.

Igirigi specs has been posted many times here by Henry since last year. You have this stinking smelly habit of asking people to repeat comments for you after they have posted it again and again.....I remember you just last month asking me again to post proof of ATR-42 Surveyor radar.

You must be the most retaaaaarded breed in your family ancestry.

Henry never posted the Igirigi specs here stop your lies.

You use the old ATR not the upgraded version. Every import in nigeria is monkey models because you don't have the industry to put your own stuff on anything you import.

Luckily, the two pilots of the fighter jet were able to eject before the plane plunged to a great inferno. I just hope ISIS or Free Syrian Army do not get to them before they escape.
More reason why every pilots should carry a portable gun on every mission.

patches689:


Did that happen in angola?

Was Angola asymmetric warfare against an enemy with no I.D. ?

lionel4power:
1 mumu stop challenging sources.

2. as usual you didn't read the source... or u didn't understand the sarcasm underneath it.. SA had a purported pyrrhic victory.

You Nigerians obviously have no idea what and how sarcasm works, but anyway, would you like reputable and objective sources, that prove we absolutely crushed Cuba and Angola?

patches689:


No you said you would choose the igugybugyg because it is battle tested and combat testing beats superior vehical capabilities

Thus you would choose the t72 over the k2?

Correct?

Brah, igiririrgug is on the same level as the LAVs we were building in ww2

Mumu,

I said the Igirigi in it's 23mm version is superior to the Mbombe IFV.

Superior fire-power, Mobility and ease of maintenance gives the Igirigi the edge.

Henry240:


Because of what gun we put on it?

Who says we can't put ATGMs on them?

Then it means you will also have to intergrate it with completely new costly electronic system which is not economical for proforce. Remember, proforce capability cannot go to that extent.

patches689:


Boko haram only ammounts to about 4,000 men

Citation needed !
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patches689:


So you havent asked south africans to come to nigeria to teach you about how we fought them?

You have not taught yourselves how to fight such threats in your SANDF protected homeland borders where your army is being dribbled
.

mzilakazi:


The history books says it was a stalemate. SA alone fighting against Russia, Cuba and Angola.

SADF + CIA + about 100,000 UNITA troops teamed up together. SA never fought Russia, else you won't be alive to browse Nairaland today.

Henry240:


Because of what gun we put on it?

Who says we can't put ATGMs on them?

Is the gun stabilized?

Who says you can?

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mzilakazi:


The history books says it was a stalemate. SA alone fighting against Cuba and Angola.

South Africans finally admit they COULD NOT and DID NOT defeat tiny Cuba

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agaugust:


Same way France destroyed 8 terrorists before they massacred 130 people in Paris this month ..... Fool....Pretoria will collapse under such unconventional attack ! Fool, comparing conventional Angola Cuban war with asymmetric war that even USA army is using PMC to learn how to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan
.

Are we France?? We have arguably the best counter terrorism unit on the fvcking planet, our authorities have prevented several possible attacks. The Fact is Boko Harm or any other terrorist group will never be able to us what they did to Nigeria, France ect ect.

patches689:


- Nigerians cannot fit atgms on the vehicale
- No, it means 23mm of kinetic energy

30mm > 23mm

Igirigi ZSU 23 mm x 2 double barrel cannon fires ARMOUR PIERCING shells you dunce !
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agaugust:


Igirigi was never meant to have an MRAP chassis, same way Ratel does not have it. Vehicles are built for specific purposes.

Igirigi specs has been posted many times here by Henry since last year. You have this stinking smelly habit of asking people to repeat comments for you after they have posted it again and again.....I remember you just last month asking me again to post proof of ATR-42 Surveyor radar.

You must be the most retaaaaarded breed in your family ancestry.

Ratel has MRAP qualities including a v-hull - so well done on destroying your own argument

Why wont you post the stats? Why do you refuse to do so? You dont want to compare them?

agaugust:


Read Eben Barlows military profile in SADF infantry, he is a basic rifle man.

Citation needed

Henry240:


Nope, a 30mm cannot be better than a dual 23mm.

Why?? Because according to you 23mm + 23mm = 46mm??

Henry240:


Nope, a 30mm cannot be better than a dual 23mm.

ZSU-23 mm fires ARMOUR PIERCING shells too.

Henry240:
Is anybody watching the news? It seems a Russian Jet has been shot down by a Turkish Air Defence system or has had a mechanical failure!

Breaking news

It has not been confirmed if it was a Russian or a Syrian jet yet.

agaugust:


I killed every Southie with this weblink, wrecked all your false claims that only you do brigade level exer :

http://www.panapress.com/Joint-military-exercise-kicks-off-in-Nigeria--13-523780-17-lang2-index.html

2004 and 2009, add the 2014 final offensive mock war game.....multiple brigade and division size exercise every 5 years.....how did you calculate that as once in 20 years? As I said earlier you are the dullest fruit every grown on your ancestral family tree
.

You have proof of only one actual brigade sized exercise in the last decade

We have two a year

Fact

agaugust:


Was Angola asymmetric warfare against an enemy with no I.D. ?

Yes

iblawi:

It has not been confirmed if it was a Russian or a Syrian jet yet.

It's an SU-24 Fencer.

...

snydergp1st:


Yet its still better then what you have, and please don't mention your half dozen BTR-4.

Nigeria has 47 BTR-3 Guardian IFV, and many BTR-80A IFV too, it's not just BTR-4.

snydergp1st:


Let's wait for more substantiated sources. The Su-30SM is more then capable of handling a F-16 unless the SU had no air to air ordinance at the time.

It's an SU-24 Fencer. Shot down by an F-16, Turkish F-16.

patches689:


Is the gun stabilized?

Who says you can?

Terrorists and rebels all over the world with unstabilized 23mm cannon on Toyota have killed APCs and IFVs of conventional armies.

You don't know API shells ? 23mm Armour Piercing Incendiary shells, it penetrates IFV armour, light tank armour, and bursts into flames of fire when it enters the enemy vehicle, incendiary shells AP !

Igirigi 23 mm x 2 cannon is a born killer, even NATO armies fears 23 mm
.

agaugust:

Drone http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/middleeast/turkey-drone-shot-down/

It's an SU-24 Fencer,not a Drone.

jln115:

Are we France?? We have arguably the best counter terrorism unit on the fvcking planet, our authorities have prevented several possible attacks. The Fact is Boko Harm or any other terrorist group will never be able to us what they did to Nigeria, France ect ect.

SANDF and SAAF combines with SA SF have failed to defeat ordinary cross border intruders and armed thieves having a good time dribbling your useless army around in your own homeland borders where SANDF is deployed to guard and protect....dummies...SANDF dummies
.

One of the pilots have been captured by FSA.

patches689:


Ratel has MRAP qualities including a v-hull - so well done on destroying your own argument

Can Ratel survive anti-tank land mine like an MRAP? Otokar Cobra has MRAP V-hull too.....mumu.