mzilakazi:


Is SA under insurgency you fool? South Africa fought insurgency long ago when you were not born and some of their tactics is still being used today including MRAPS. They deviled MRAP to deal with IEDs.

Another prove that SA army have no tactics for fighting terrorist.

Obsolete tactics, obsolete equipments with obsolete soldiers.

Your military personnel are sick and most of them are getting old. The young one only want to raape girl and they have no zeal to fight.

Meanwhile pictures of 105 slain Nigerian soldiers went on viral on social media. I have a picture of them but I can't paste it because I might be banned.

mzilakazi:


France does not seek help, it is only concern with how Nigeria is letting BH to scot free even to this day. It might be that Nigeria's strategies are malfunctional in defeating BH. France has citizens across Africa particularly on the vicinity of BH strongest host which is Nigeria. BH has in the past threatened to attack French nationals and it appears that they are worried since Nigeria's efforts in fighting BH have proved futile to this day. They want to find out what is it that Nigeria is doing wrong.

[size=32pt]Look at this zulunatic idiot. [/size]

iblawi:

Another prove that SA army have no tactics for fighting terrorist.

Obsolete tactics, obsolete equipments with obsolete soldiers.

Your military personnel are sick and most of them are getting old. The young one only want to raape girl and they have to zeal to fight.

MRAPS have transformed the world today and came about when SA was facing insurgency. What equipment did Nigeria invented ever since they faced insurgency?

Eeben Barlow taught you the tactics of approaching insurgency and now you think you know it all.

mzilakazi:


Nigeria has no capacity to maintain missiles. There has never been any TOT in that field in history.

so who maintained this one's? you father?

lionel4power:

so who maintained this one's? you father?

Are those things missiles?

mzilakazi:


Are those things missiles?

no they are stones.

the problem with you guys is that you are used to pretty carefully snapped pictures so you don't know how REAL equipment looks like.

lionel4power:

rolands specs alone defeats your GBADS.
.
anyway this is old topic.... stop wasting my time

Our GBADS isn't even complete yet! Why don't we compare the Roland to our Umkhonto SAM when it comes in to service.

jln115:

Our GBADS isn't even complete yet! Why don't we compare the Roland to our Umkhonto SAM when it comes in to service.

you HAVE no GBADS now... come back when you have one..

lionel4power:
you HAVE no GBADS now... come back when you have one..

Oerlikon, Skyshield radar , Starstreak, Thutlwa radar system , Umkhonto SAM ect ect ect are all part of GBADS , GBADS isn't a single unit, its a combination of many different Air defence systems. Some of the systems we already have, like the Oerlikon GDF 007, Starstreak, Thutlwa ect ect.

Thats why i said our GBADS isn't finished yet.

agaugust:


You still using another Wikipedia as source again....Desperate in defeat....that source goes into garbage with all you wrote there.

Less armour for amphibious vehicle? BTR-4, BTR-3, Cobra, VBL, Mbombe, Ratel, Badger, all have same level ballistic protection on their hulls you dummy !

British Marines have Viking amphibious armoured vehicles.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/the-equipment/commando/vehicles


US Army has over 5,000 M113 amphibious armoured vehicles.

US Marines have over 1,000 AAVP-7A1 amphibious armored vehicles.

US Marines have over 400 LAV-25 amphibious IFVs

US Marines has just bought a new generation amphibious armoured vehicle to add thousands more to their amphibious current fleet...

http://news.yahoo.com/u-marines-set-announce-combat-vehicle-contract-223133818--finance.html

I have not humiliiated y.ou enough today Patrick ?


Patches , SANDF does NOT rank among modern armies with balanced war capacity, you have a dry land only army

Nigerian army has terrain operational superiority over SANDF
.

1. No those vehicals do not have the same STANAG ratings

2. We are talking about ARMY not MARINES - OBVIOUSLY Marines need amphibious vehicles.

3. M113 has been pushed out of frontline service, LAV-25 is being retired.

You have humiliated no one but yourself

agaugust:


[s]How many minutes precisely? 30 minutes is also minutes. The enemy needs only one minute to bombard SANDF with cannon fire while your helpless SANDF is trapped at the waterside, Nigerian army will BURY SANDF inside the river !

Olodo boy, Nigeria has armoured amphibious Sagaie tank destroyers for fighting tanks after amphibious crossing.

SANDF has inferior operational capability, NA is your boss.[/s]

Howcome this did not happen to us in Angola?

agaugust:


[s]Wikipedia is NOT an acceptable source here, you have been caught deleting and falsifying Wikipedia information many time.

SANDF has NEVER and will NEVER deploy a full brigade into battle, you do NOT have that capacity yet. NA is your master in big wars.[/s]

Read the list, names of the Brigades deployed are listed

lionel4power:
so if you were situated in W/Africa you'll construct bridges over Lake Chad abi.... your foolishness is Spectacular.

As I have shown Nigeria does not posses the logistics to support a water crossing

agaugust:


Forget about water speed or gun turret, Nigeria has amphibious tank destroyer that fires anti tank shells. South Africa has ZERO amphibious armoured vehicles. We are better than you. Try go buy one first before analysing what you don't have

1. Lack of amphibious ability was not a problem in Angola (where we actually fought a conventional war)
1a. Our enemy had amphibious vehicles, and we still thrashed them
1b. Nigeria has never fought a conventional war and thus does not know the flaws inherent with amphib vehicles

South Africa had the option of buying an amphibious vehicle with the Badger - but we chose ARMOR over the ability to swim

lionel4power:
BREAKING NEWS OOOOO

FRANCE BEGS NIGERIA TO HELP THEM FIGHT TERRORISM

Following recent terrorists’ attacks in Paris which killed over 130 persons, the French Director of Military Intelligence, General Christopher Gormert,
today paid an official visit to the Nigerian Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), seeking knowledge on how Nigerian security agencies are currently confronting the Boko Haram terrorist group.

According to Gen. Gormert , “In the area of geo- spatial intelligence, we will seriously rely on you to help us develop that capacity. We are in the process of setting up that department. It’s my first time in Abuja and it’s a good reason to visit you on Boko Haram and see how we can share
intelligence; that is the reason for my visit.” He stated further that, “I believe in building up capacity we must leverage on our capable partners like you to help us from the level which we were, to a higher level . “Like you know this phenomenon of global terrorism is catching all nations napping. It’s
something we did not prepare for including developing countries like Nigeria. We have to evolve new ways of tackling them and stamp
them out of existence”. Meanwhile, Nigeria’s CDI, Air Vice Marshal Monday Riku Morgan had expressed “sympathy with the entire community of France, and particularly the people of Paris, for the mischievous attack carried out by the terrorists on their city.” “ As a nation, we understand the feelings that you are going through right now, because we have
the same nuisance in our hands,” he said. He recalled the visit of President Buhari to France early this year, which he said ‘’ brought about the serious synergy that both security organizations have today, between the French government and Nigeria in terms of intelligence sharing”. “I want to assure you that your visit is highly plausible. I recall that during a visit to Senegal
with the Chief of Defence Staff, we spoke on very serious bilateral issues on the need to encourage our Francophone brother nations to give us the neccesary support to defeat Boko Haram.
“We think that henceforth, such daily intelligence sharing will keep happening and this will effectively change the situation in the north
east,” AVM Morgan said.
.
.

some countries fighting terrorism
USA
Russia
Israel
Iraq
Syria
Ethiopia
Egypt
Lebanon
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Kenya

Yet they begged us to help them... NIGERIA MILITARY HAS NO EQUAL

http://dailypost.ng/2015/11/25/french-government-seeks-nigerias-assistance-in-terrorism-war/?wt=3

[size=15pt] Mighty France begging Nigerian military for help....see the opposite....South African military was begging France for help in Bangui.

.[/size]

mzilakazi:


Roland is an old cargo of 1980 and its shelve life has passed long ago. It might not be fully functional as in present. You were supposed to have upgraded long ago.

Post citation for Roland missile shelf life.

Spain, a NATO power is still using Roland SAM today, even France a world power is said to have Roland in service as there is no proof they retired them. NATO member Slovenia just acquired Roland missiles in year 2005 or so. Dare a Nigerian Roland missile and die young.

lionel4power:
BREAKING NEWS OOOOO

FRANCE BEGS NIGERIA TO HELP THEM FIGHT TERRORISM

Following recent terrorists’ attacks in Paris which killed over 130 persons, the French Director of Military Intelligence, General Christopher Gormert,
today paid an official visit to the Nigerian Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), seeking knowledge on how Nigerian security agencies are currently confronting the Boko Haram terrorist group.

According to Gen. Gormert , “In the area of geo- spatial intelligence, we will seriously rely on you to help us develop that capacity. We are in the process of setting up that department. It’s my first time in Abuja and it’s a good reason to visit you on Boko Haram and see how we can share
intelligence; that is the reason for my visit.” He stated further that, “I believe in building up capacity we must leverage on our capable partners like you to help us from the level which we were, to a higher level . “Like you know this phenomenon of global terrorism is catching all nations napping. It’s
something we did not prepare for including developing countries like Nigeria. We have to evolve new ways of tackling them and stamp
them out of existence”. Meanwhile, Nigeria’s CDI, Air Vice Marshal Monday Riku Morgan had expressed “sympathy with the entire community of France, and particularly the people of Paris, for the mischievous attack carried out by the terrorists on their city.” “ As a nation, we understand the feelings that you are going through right now, because we have
the same nuisance in our hands,” he said. He recalled the visit of President Buhari to France early this year, which he said ‘’ brought about the serious synergy that both security organizations have today, between the French government and Nigeria in terms of intelligence sharing”. “I want to assure you that your visit is highly plausible. I recall that during a visit to Senegal
with the Chief of Defence Staff, we spoke on very serious bilateral issues on the need to encourage our Francophone brother nations to give us the neccesary support to defeat Boko Haram.
“We think that henceforth, such daily intelligence sharing will keep happening and this will effectively change the situation in the north
east,” AVM Morgan said.
.
.

some countries fighting terrorism
USA
Russia
Israel
Iraq
Syria
Ethiopia
Egypt
Lebanon
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Kenya

Yet they begged us to help them... NIGERIA MILITARY HAS NO EQUAL

http://dailypost.ng/2015/11/25/french-government-seeks-nigerias-assistance-in-terrorism-war/?wt=3

This will not sit well with the resident vultures from the southerly parts of Africa.

agaugust:


Spain, a NATO power is still using Roland SAM today, even France a world power is said to have Roland in service as there is no proof they retired them. Dare a Nigerian Roland missile and die young.

France use Mistral not Roland

Spain adopted the MIM-23 HAWK and MIM-104 Patriot, no one knows if their Rolands are still in active service

jln115:

Oerlikon, Skyshield radar , Starstreak, Thutlwa radar system , Umkhonto SAM ect ect ect are all part of GBADS , GBADS isn't a single unit, its a combination of many different Air defence systems. Some of the systems we already have, like the Oerlikon GDF 007, Starstreak, Thutlwa ect ect.

Thats why i said our GBADS isn't finished yet.

You have no land based Umkhonto in service.

Oerlikon is a mere cannon not missile.

Thutlwa is a mere radar not connected to any missile in service today.

Starstreak is a mere MANPAD missile with fvcking 1 km max ceiling.

SANDF air defence is one of the weakest in Africa today.

2000 pages !!!!from where I go begin now

..

Patchesagain:


1. No those vehicals do not have the same STANAG ratings

2. We are talking about ARMY not MARINES - OBVIOUSLY Marines need amphibious vehicles.

3. M113 has been pushed out of frontline service, LAV-25 is being retired.

You have humiliated no one but yourself

1. All those vehicles can only resists 7.62mm bullets. Any difference will be an MRAP with under chassis armour for land mines.

2. Marines are an army that has extra capability for water terrain ops you dunce !

3. US Army has M113 and LAV-25 in current service, or you stole them away and burned them to ashes? NOT retired yet you liar.

Patchesagain:


South Africa had the option of buying an amphibious vehicle with the Badger - but we chose ARMOR over the ability to swim

You chose extra UNDER BELLY ARMOUR for land mine protection only, the hull of Badger is still penetrable by ordinary Boko Haram 12.7 mm Dshk machine guns.

Your army doctrine simply lacks amphibious capability, your military academy must be retaaared in thinking.

Badger IFV is not in service until year 2022 according to new reports from defenceweb posted by snydergp

Patchesagain:


As I have shown Nigeria does not posses the logistics to support a water crossing

Nigeria have Vickers armoured bridge launchers you fool. Also NA army engineers build assault course bridges with ease, see photos on bidexii's thread, we are doing in on battlefields today.

Patchesagain:


France use Mistral not Roland

Spain adopted the MIM-23 HAWK and MIM-104 Patriot, no one knows if their Rolands are still in active service

France has thousands of Roland missiles in service you nincompoop, they built Roland and own it.

Spain has Roland in service today, no report of retirement.

Slovenia is a NATO member and just acquired Roland missile around year 2005.

Only fear makes you South Africans wish Roland is retired worldwide, but your daydream is a wast of time, Roland is still active worldwide.

# THRASHED BY ROLAND MASTERS

agaugust:


You have no land based Umkhonto in service.

Oerlikon is a mere cannon not missile.

Thutlwa is a mere radar not connected to any missile in service today.

Starstreak is a mere MANPAD missile with fvcking 1 km max ceiling.

SANDF air defence is one of the weakest in Africa today.

Uhmkonto is moments away from introduction

Oerlikon is CRAM and is the most advanced SSHORAD sustem in ss-Africa

Starstreak has a 5km ceiling and is the most advanced VSHORAD on the continent

All of this is linked together via data-lank and some of the most advanced air search and targetting radars on the continent - it is a SYSTEM

Meanwhile, Nigeria has obsolete Roland, obsolete AAA SHORAD and beyond obsolete VSHORAD which are 50 year old shoulder launchers... no mobile radar....no data link to combine them

You dont have a decernable air defence network - just a collection of obsolete equipment

SANDF IS GENERATIONS AHEAD

agaugust:


1. All those vehicles can only resists 7.62mm bullets. Any difference will be an MRAP with under chassis armour for land mines.

2. Marines are an army that has extra capability for water terrain ops you dunce !

3. US Army has M113 and LAV-25 in current service, or you stole them away and burned them to ashes? NOT retired yet you liar.

1. Yes, but what is the maximum they can resist? Patria can resist up to 30mm on the frontal arc. They DO NOT have the same STANAG ratings - fact

2. No - Marines are not army, they are Marines (thats why they have a special name)

3. M113 is in reserve used by National Guard or in specialist units (EW/Chem and Bio Warfare) LAV is being phased out - they are abandoning amohibious capabilities in favour of armor

agaugust:


You chose extra UNDER BELLY ARMOUR for land mine protection only, the hull of Badger is still penetrable by ordinary Boko Haram 12.7 mm Dshk machine guns.

Your army doctrine simply lacks amphibious capability, your military academy must be retaaared in thinking.

Badger IFV is not in service until year 2022 according to new reports from defenceweb posted by snydergp

1. So yes, you agree that we chose armor over amphibious capabilities? Citation needed for STANAG rating

2. Worked in Angola - you have never actually fought a real war so you have nothing to compare against

3. Deliveries COMPLETED in 2022 you illiterate DUNCE! First batch arrives next year

agaugust:


Nigeria have Vickers armoured bridge launchers you fool. Also NA army engineers build assault course bridges with ease, see photos on bidexii's thread, we are doing in on battlefields today.

So why do you need amphibious capabilities?

agaugust:


France has thousands of Roland missiles in service you nincompoop, they built Roland and own it.

Spain has Roland in service today, no report of retirement.

Slovenia is a NATO member and just acquired Roland missile around year 2005.

Only fear makes you South Africans wish Roland is retired worldwide, but your daydream is a wast of time, Roland is still active worldwide.

# THRASHED BY ROLAND MASTERS

As i said, France phased it out for the Mistral

Spain phased it outbin favour of the weapons I listed

No one gives a sh2t about tiny slovenia

And as we have proven - your missiles are expired

agaugust:


Whoooosh !!! Humiliated !!!

Your two videos show NOTHING BRIGADE size, all we see are about 20 men paratroopers

Nigeria had TWO brigade size NA+NN+NAF multiple-brigade size exercises in 11 years, TAKUTE 2004 and OLOGUN 2009, in 2014 we had LAFIYA DOLE final offensive exercise of SIX BRIGADES combined, and straight from that war game they went into REAL LIFE war that South Africa has NEVER fought in that magnitude in the last 70 years !

SADF/SANDF has NEVER deployed up to one full brigade to war in the last 70 years.

Nigeria does not need yearly brigade size war games when we already deploy about 3 to 6 brigades into real war consistently for the past 25 years all over Africa in real life war, not Rugby Football match war games of South African military.

SANDF, SAN, SAAF have NEVER graduated to fighting any real tri-service war in real life, your Rugby players army never goes into any competition against real opponents, they are always stuck with training by themselves alone in an indoor hall, arranging combat forces like oranges on a table for sale by market women !

Nigeria combines training with constant war experience in real life , we are superior to you home baby sitters military.

Tell me, how does your navy SAN, participate in joint army, navy, air force war games if you only train on brown sand dry lands with no amphibious war game, your frigates and submarines drive with Dunlop or Michelin tyres on dry land to join the army on the field?

All your SANDF training is garbage to be dumped into the incinerator. Rugby Football tactics army
.

MRS deploys for these exsizes. They do river and lake patrols.


Training in indoors? Well yes we have the best simulators in africa we all so have one of the worlds largest training grounds with a shooting range messuerd in killometers. We all so train with countless other countries from the American, dutch, Namibian, English, Botswanan, DRC, Germany, hell there have been Nigerian sailors training here he did our NBCD training. Your argumants have become more and more ridicules you are the sole reason i am not active here. Reading your posts makes me feel stupid.