Patchesagain:


That is not at all what they are saying you slowpoke

They are saying: We dont have many assets in play in the area you are fighting BH, please can you share what you learn

Fvckwit

andrewza:


Hardly every one since according to Britain it was a internal civil war that Britain was neutral in. They fail at being netrual since one group was pro Britain the othet group anti. And just because it your territory does not mean it in your lands its like saying if some one that invades the Prince Edward Islands is Invading South Africa. Yeah they techical are technical they part of cape town only they 1700km away.

iblawi:





Just because is in your territory doesn't mean is in your land.

Another bomb.

I think we need to tell Turkey just that.

lezz:
Once again this snake-skined nincompoop has just proven that the only thing sustaining your banter here for 5 years is fear, envy and self-doubt.

Even if we were to agree France only came for intelligence shearing/gathering they wouldn't be doing so without acknowledging that the Nigerian army has proved its worth against BH. And they have a lot to learnlearn from NAF

Patrick, you are of little mind. And your soul is dark.
Every little success of Nigeria drives you to near insanity.

If you don't adjust to reality, Nigeria shall inevitably make you die young.

South Africa has really put effort and ambition into becoming a leader yet mediocrity stick with you.

When ever I watch Man City play, only South Africa comes to mind.

stillchris:


Andrew... I have given you countless citations that proved northern Ireland is British territory.

All you have managed to do is give your personal opinions with nothing to back it up.

andrewza:


intelligence and army not the same.


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lezz:
what is it you're trying to say up there?

In dealing with 21st century terrorism/terrorists, intelligence is indispensable.

patches689:


Uhmkonto is moments away from introduction

Oerlikon is CRAM and is the most advanced SSHORAD sustem in ss-Africa

Starstreak has a 5km ceiling and is the most advanced VSHORAD on the continent

All of this is linked together via data-lank and some of the most advanced air search and targetting radars on the continent - it is a SYSTEM

Meanwhile, Nigeria has obsolete Roland, obsolete AAA SHORAD and beyond obsolete VSHORAD which are 50 year old shoulder launchers... no mobile radar....no data link to combine them

You dont have a decernable air defence network - just a collection of obsolete equipment

SANDF IS GENERATIONS AHEAD

patches689:


1. Yes, but what is the maximum they can resist? Patria can resist up to 30mm on the frontal arc. They DO NOT have the same STANAG ratings - fact

2. No - Marines are not army, they are Marines (thats why they have a special name)

3. M113 is in reserve used by National Guard or in specialist units (EW/Chem and Bio Warfare) LAV is being phased out - they are abandoning amohibious capabilities in favour of armor

patches689:


So why do you need amphibious capabilities?

patches689:


As i said, France phased it out for the Mistral

Spain phased it outbin favour of the weapons I listed

andrewza:



MRS deploys for these exsizes. They do river and lake patrols.


Training in indoors? Well yes we have the best simulators in africa we all so have one of the worlds largest training grounds with a shooting range messuerd in killometers. We all so train with countless other countries from the American, dutch, Namibian, English, Botswanan, DRC, Germany, hell there have been Nigerian sailors training here he did our NBCD training. Your argumants have become more and more ridicules you are the sole reason i am not active here. Reading your posts makes me feel stupid.

agaugust:


Nope, you ran away because I made you realize your military, SANDF, SAN, SAAF are mere paper tigers..... Sure I made you look silly many times, you don't dare a Nigerian next time.

onatisi:
but the question is why is the fight against boko haram so difficult if Nigeria truly possess all these military capabilities

DieVluit:


The U.S military is not fighting insurgents on American soil. It is fighting in foreign lands. Nigeria is fighting at home in a land the size of two U.S states, and it is failing. You cannot compare the two.

DieVluit:


The U.S military is not fighting insurgents on American soil. It is fighting in foreign lands. Nigeria is fighting at home in a land the size of two U.S states, and it is failing. You cannot compare the two.

jln115:

Jap, im not arguing , but we're not only talking about Guns and Missiles here, we are talking about some of the most advanced air defence radars in the world.

And only GBADS phase 1 has been completed. GBADS phase 2 will be completed in late 2016 or early 2017 when the Umkhonto SAM system has been completed,all our Oerlikon GDF 007 have been delivered and we receive the RSR-320 radar system, GBADS phase 3 will only be completed around 2019 when we acquire a long range SAM(Most likely the Marlin) ect ect

DieVluit:


I realise your shortcomings. And because of those shortcomings, you need to compare apples with apples. Fighting insurgency at home is nothing like fighting insurgency abroad. The US is fighting insurgency abroad and the fact that they still have not won is no justification for Nigeria's failures at home. The question to be asked is whether Al Qaeda etc would still be active if they were based and operating in the US. You know the answer to that...it's a resounding no.

Your failures at home are unacceptable. BH has not been reduced to anything. Instead, they have grown into the deadliest terror group on the planet. This happened under your military's watch. Ample opportunity to wipe them off, you had. But fail, you did.

Patchesagain:


That is not at all what they are saying you slowpoke

They are saying: We dont have many assets in play in the area you are fighting BH, please can you share what you learn

Fvckwit

patches689:


So nothing but range is relevant?

Fool

andrewza:


I dont see begging. Asking and begging are not the same. Making a deal where both sides gain somthing is not begging. I am not refueting the fact France wants to learn from Nigeria. I am saying you twisting facts and making it bigger than it is. By your example i can say the USA begged the SANDF to teach them bush warfare skills because they sent a few guys to be trained by us. Same ad the dutch and many others. Truth is they did not begg us they asked.

patches689:


Why am i butthurt that france wants to coordinate witg you?

agaugust:


1.Armoured bridge launchers are super huge and too heavy to drive everywhere in battle, no army does that, so armies own amphibious light armoured vehicles instead.

2.Will you use bridge launcher to cross lake Chad, lake Victoria ....many lakes and rivers are far wider than your bridge launcher ! Fool !

How do your engineers build a bridge across Atlantic ocean during amphibious landing kilometres away from ocean shore? You fooool !!!

NATO will NEVER phase out amphibious armoured vehicles, that is what they used to 3.defeat Germany at Normandy invasion, no alternative to it.

SANDF will drown in amphibious war theatre, Nigerian army will wipe out SANDF in such warfare
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andrewza:


There was no insurgency in Britain. There was terrorism there yes but the insurrection took place in Ireland. Any body unable to grasp the fact that Britain and Ireland are not the same is not qualfied to call any body a idiotic. Not to mention Ireland had been fighting for independence on and off since 1536 when the English re-conquer Ireland. The UK successfully resolved the issue through diplomacy mutch like South Africa delt with there issues.

DieVluit:


It's easy to say "BH is defeated". Anyone can say that. The question is short and simple: On what grounds can we say that what is now the deadliest terror group on the planet is "defeated". When you have kindly listed those grounds for us (as opposed to shouting), we will get somewhere.

Henry240:


Simple!

I no no wetin dey hard dem 2 understand.

agaugust:


Liar, big liar !!!
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agaugust:


Another pack of lies and falsehood

DieVluit:


Very smart of you to respond to "no content:".

You asked for the "shifting" of arguments, which clearly is an acceptance that you are begging us to move from the US example to your Britain one.

Only problem is, you are yet to show us how what happened in the Uk justifies Nigeria's failures at home.

Whenever you are ready, with thanks. You mean, the secessionist issue that the UK was dealing with. Pray tell, how is that similar to the BH issue?

agaugust:


Armoured bridge launchers are super huge and too heavy to drive everywhere in battle, no army does that, so armies own amphibious light armoured vehicles instead.

Will you use bridge launcher to cross lake Chad, lake Victoria ....many lakes and rivers are far wider than your bridge launcher ! Fool !

How do your engineers build a bridge across Atlantic ocean during amphibious landing kilometres away from ocean shore? You fooool !!!

NATO will NEVER phase out amphibious armoured vehicles, that is what they used to defeat Germany at Normandy invasion, no alternative to it.

SANDF will drown in amphibious war theatre, Nigerian army will wipe out SANDF in such warfare
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andrewza:


That you should not assume French acknowledgment of you spooks is a acknowledgement of your grunts. hell your Spooks even as there own tatical teams that may mean they don't trust your army or police to act on there intel.

agaugust:


Citation needed that France and Spain phased out Roland. Liar !!!!
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