jln115:

Dude you guys sit with the same problem then! As i said before are you going to cross lake Victoria with only your Sagai and a few apc to face an enemy with Tanks? Not to mention that you are sailing at walking pace!!

Also we barely need any building material to build a bridge, thats why we have pontoon bridge layers and pontoon boats. And any Lake thats to big to build a bridge over is definitely to big to cross by sailing over it with an amphibious vehicle going only 7km/h, it would be much more effective to just drive around.

Militaries also prepare before going on a mission if you did not know, Its not like the SANDF will be driving around and all of a sudden Lake Victoria pops up and every body just stands there with their dick in their hand. Trust me most militaries know the terrain they are going to face, and thus deploy equipment accordingly.

Pics and Video of Pontoon Bridges and Boats:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPQUqTWUpQw

Does your army carry bridges everywhere they go on the battle space like it's a backpack portable bridge? You carry bridges on your MRAPs?

I have never seen a photo of SANDF armoured vehicles in Congo or Sudan followed by loads and loads of trucks carrying bridges, your army did not even deploy bridge construction materials and engineers in Congo DRC, you deployed infantry only.

You want the enemy to wait for you to order aircraft lifting bridge building materials from Pretoria to arrive in 3 days? The enemy has already gained tactical battlefield advantage over you and crossed river Congo while SANDF is killed in their stranded and trapped position.

Also can you build bridges across the Atlantic ocean for amphibious landing when your ships are anchored 5 km away from sea shore to avoid enemy mortar and artillery fire? You ever see an army build pontoon bridge that long on an ocean?

My question is how come you crossed the river to the other side with tanks while you were spending and wasting days and days requesting your army HQ to send trucks and trucks and trucks loaded with heavy pieces of bridge construction equipment to be transported over long distance on off road rough terrain while your main army of armoured non-amphibious vehicles remain stranded and trapped at the river side unable to cross, while the enemy pursuing you from behind has caught up with you and demolished SANDF to be buried by Nigerian army at the lake side?

You say how come we are behind you on that side of the river? Okey then we are the ones on the other side of the river waiting for you with T-72 tanks armed with ERA armour and 125mm killer main gun !

Dunce, your foolish argument is claiming that your army is on the two sides of the river, you are building bridge to cross on the left river bank, yet you claim you are on the opposite side on the right river bank waiting with tanks.....fool, only you spread all over the battle space like termites? Where is the enemy position then ?

Stop wasting my time, South Africa has A BIG TACTICAL DEFICIENCY with no amphibious armoured vehicles, stop twisting military doctrinal and tactical facts, I am a trained battlefield simulator, stop arguing blindly with me. Accept free education from Nigeria and learn .

Only the fools of South Africa will build a tactical combat bridge across a huge ocean....nation of fools, no wonder your economy is crumbling.

PHOTOS : AMERICAN MARINES AMPHIBIOUS ARMOURED VEHICLES CROSSING WATERS IN 2014

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[size=13pt] Big problem, SANDF new Badger IFV so much boasted about here, does NOT have automatic cannon !

It's GI-30 30mm Cam main gun fires only single shots like a bush animal hunter's rifle [/size]
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html


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agaugust:


Does your army carry bridges everywhere they go on the battle space like it's a backpack portable bridge? You carry bridges on your MRAPs?

I have never seen a photo of SANDF armoured vehicles in Congo or Sudan followed by loads and loads of trucks carrying bridges, your army did not even deploy bridge construction materials and engineers in Congo DRC, you deployed infantry only.

You want the enemy to wait for you to order aircraft lifting bridge building materials from Pretoria to arrive in 3 days? The enemy has already gained tactical battlefield advantage over you and crossed river Congo while SANDF is killed in their stranded and trapped position.

Also can you build bridges across the Atlantic ocean for amphibious landing when your ships are anchored 5 km away from sea shore to avoid enemy mortar and artillery fire? You ever see an army build pontoon bridge that long on an ocean?

My question is how come you crossed the river to the other side with tanks while you were spending and wasting days and days requesting your army HQ to send trucks and trucks and trucks loaded with heavy pieces of bridge construction equipment to be transported over long distance on off road rough terrain while your main army of armoured non-amphibious vehicles remain stranded and trapped at the river side unable to cross, while the enemy pursuing you from behind has caught up with you and demolished SANDF to be buried by Nigerian army at the lake side?

You say how come we are behind you on that side of the river? Okey then we are the ones on the other side of the river waiting for you with T-72 tanks armed with ERA armour and 125mm killer main gun !

Dunce, your foolish argument is claiming that your army is on the two sides of the river, you are building bridge to cross on the left river bank, yet you claim you are on the opposite side on the right river bank waiting with tanks.....fool, only you spread all over the battle space like termites? Where is the enemy position then ?

Stop wasting my time, South Africa has A BIG TACTICAL DEFICIENCY with no amphibious armoured vehicles, stop twisting military doctrinal and tactical facts, I am a trained battlefield simulator, stop arguing blindly with me. Accept free education from Nigeria and learn .

Only the fools of South Africa will build a tactical combat bridge across a huge ocean....nation of fools, no wonder your economy is crumbling.

PHOTOS : AMERICAN MARINES AMPHIBIOUS ARMOURED VEHICLES CROSSING WATERS IN 2014

[img]http://navylive.dodlive.mil/files/2015/08/150819-N-SU278-029-1024x681.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.doncio.navy.mil/uploads/0814XVE13274.jpg[/img]
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My God you a idiot.

The battlion carries a bridge if it needs one.

Have they ever needed to cross a unbridged river? Incorrect 1 company of army engineers is DRC this is in addition to the infantry battalions engineers.

You going to send your lightly armored and now slow Amphibious vehicles to a well guarded beach from 5km out? Thats suicide have fun with that.

Why would you wait days. Called planning and reading a map.


And because we did not cross the river in front of the tanks and brought heavy equipment across we can handel them. Unlike the guy ploding along with zero cover accross the river or when he gets across is in vehicles so lightly armored a ww2 infantry battalion could stop them.

andrewza:



My God you a idiot.

The battlion carries a bridge if it needs one.

Have they ever needed to cross a unbridged river? Incorrect 1 company of army engineers is DRC this is in addition to the infantry battalions engineers.

You going to send your lightly armored and now slow Amphibious vehicles to a well guarded beach from 5km out? Thats suicide have fun with that.

Why would you wait days. Called planning and reading a map.


And because we did not cross the river in front of the tanks and brought heavy equipment across we can handel them. Unlike the guy ploding along with zero cover accross the river or when he gets across is in vehicles so lightly armored a ww2 infantry battalion could stop them.

Your army always operates in battalion size? Platoons/Company carry huge bridges around on top of their MRAP? All your battalions always carry bridges around ? We have not seen one bridge following your MRAPs around in AU or UN operations.

SANDF engineers in Congo DRC, are they bridge construction engineers? Engineering corps include motor engine repair mechanics you dunce.

Show us proof of SANDF bridge construction equipment in Congo DRC.

Approx 8km to 17 km water crossing speed, not 5km. How is it suicide? Canadian army amphibious armoured vehicles were the first to break through and capture heavy German beach defences of bunkers and anti-tank guns in Normandy invasion 1944 on Juno beach.

I just showed you American marines doing it last year 2014, you a navy cook thinks they are sailing into suicide just because SANDF does not have any amphibious armoured vehicle, then those who have it are committing suicide to justify your own army not having such capability. Now you have a bigger brain than the whole US Marine corps generals? Olodo.

"It’s really important for us as an amphibious unit to work well with the Navy,” said Staff Sgt. Jesse Ullman, section leader with 2nd AA Bn, and a native of Dallas, Texas. “Amphibious operations were less of a focus due to the type of war we’ve been fighting (in Iraq and Afghanistan). Today is about getting Marines back to the basics, back to our roots.”

As the U.S. military draws down its forces in the Middle East, the Marine Corps is refocusing on the Pacific and returning to its amphibious origins. Training events like this are not common, making the experience invaluable to the Marines."

http://www.doncio.navy.mil/CHIPS/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=5395
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agaugust:
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[size=13pt] Big problem, SANDF new Badger IFV so much boasted about here, does NOT have automatic cannon !

It's GI-30 30mm Cam main gun fires only single shots like a bush animal hunter's rifle [/size]
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html


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100 rounds a min is about what other 30x173mm guns used on ifv achieve. So i fail to see what you on about.

agaugust:


Your army always operates in battalion size? Platoons/Company carry huge bridges around on top of their MRAP? All your battalions always carry bridges around ? We have not seen one bridge following your MRAPs around in AU or UN operations.

SANDF engineers in Congo DRC, are they bridge construction engineers? Engineering corps include motor engine repair mechanics you dunce.

Show us proof of SANDF bridge construction equipment in Congo DRC.

8km water crossing speed, not 5km. How is it suicide? I just showed you American marines doing it last year 2014, you a navy cook thinks they are sailing into suicide just because SANDF does not have any amphibious armoured vehicle, then those who have it are committing suicide to justify your own army not having such capability. Now you have a bigger brain than the whole US Marine corps generals? Olodo.

"It’s really important for us as an amphibious unit to work well with the Navy,” said Staff Sgt. Jesse Ullman, section leader with 2nd AA Bn, and a native of Dallas, Texas. “Amphibious operations were less of a focus due to the type of war we’ve been fighting (in Iraq and Afghanistan). Today is about getting Marines back to the basics, back to our roots.”

As the U.S. military draws down its forces in the Middle East, the Marine Corps is refocusing on the Pacific and returning to its amphibious origins. Training events like this are not common, making the experience invaluable to the Marines."

http://www.doncio.navy.mil/CHIPS/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=5395
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A battlion is the smallest military organization capable of independent operations. Hence i use them as a example. Those platoons belong to a battlion. See any rivers in the pics of SA solders in drc or sudan.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6558:fact-file-the-sa-engineering-corps-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

In the SANDF engineers are all about moblitie.


You have yet to show the need for them.


Did USMC do a landing on a beach held by the enemy, not some exersizes firing blanks. A battry of 12.7s will wreck your day and sink your entire force. And my point was the distance and speed. The USMC have far faster landing craft and can have air support. Somthing you dont have. A few now slow targets plodding along to a beach with no support.

andrewza:


100 rounds a min is about what other 30x173mm guns used on ifv achieve. So i fail to see what you on about.

Single shot capability ONLY 60 rounds per minute.....fvcking slow rate of fire on a $ 5 million Badger IFV !

Nigerian 23mm Igirigi fires 1000 rounds per minute !

Nigerian 30mm BTR-4 fire 500 rounds per minute !

andrewza:


A battlion is the smallest military organization capable of independent operations. Hence i use them as a example. Those platoons belong to a battlion. See any rivers in the pics of SA solders in drc or sudan.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6558:fact-file-the-sa-engineering-corps-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

In the SANDF engineers are all about moblitie.


You have yet to show the need for them.


Did USMC do a landing on a beach held by the enemy, not some exersizes firing blanks. A battry of 12.7s will wreck your day and sink your entire force. And my point was the distance and speed. The USMC have far faster landing craft and can have air support. Somthing you dont have. A few now slow targets plodding along to a beach with no support.

SANDF has no bridge in Congo DRC.

Sea to shore ship to land artillery bombardment is done before amphibious landing IF coast is defended, many coasts are undefended too.

Normandy beach was blasted with ship to land artillery bombardment before Juno landing by amphibious vehicles. You claim to be in the navy and yet do not know what shore bombardment/fire support is

That's why you like to run away from me on this forum....when i crush ya ballz

agaugust:


Single shot capability ONLY 60 rounds per minute.....fvcking slow rate of fire on a $ 5 million Badger IFV !

Nigerian 23mm Igirigi fires 1000 rounds per minute !

Nigerian 30mm BTR-4 fire 500 rounds per minute !

Acording to your own link it is 100. 60rpm is on the 3 shot burst. Aka 3 shots in rapid procession followed by pausess then 3 more.

Again neither one is a 30x173mm gun. The 30x173 is a slower firing gun but is far more accurate and powerful. The badger could sit 4000m away and fire accurate bursts destroying targets that will be firring all over. The odd shot that hits would just bounc off. The defence review even calls for this. Saying the mechnized force should engage any invader from maxim range.

agaugust:


SANDF has no bridge in Congo DRC.

Sea to shore ship to land artillery bombardment is done before amphibious landing IF coast is defended, many coasts are undefended too.

Normandy beach was blasted with ship to land artillery bombardment before Juno landing by amphibious vehicles. You claim to be in the navy and yet do not know what shore bombardment/fire support is

That's why you like to run away from me on this forum....when i crush ya ballz

Again do we need one. You yet to show a need for one.

And we talking nigeria here not the alied forces. You do all so remember that there where still coutless surving defenders after the bombardment and that if Rommel or any other German commander with balls to defy hitler had been there to oder the panzers on the beaches the invasion may of failed.

andrewza:


Its funny how the first and second biggest economies are pretty shit places to live. Poor human rights record, civli strive and open warfare in parts of the country. I don't think south Africans Care since GDP is only one aspects of a economy. I mean for Nigeria's massive GDP south Africa still as more cash as in money.

If Nigeria and Egypt are flogging you on the economic front while fighting insurgency and terrorism for ages, it is quite an embarrassment and humiliation for south Africa then.

And please, your GDP per capita nonsense is only an irrelevant consultation prize. UN, IMF and world power politics rely on raw GDP standing.

After all, almighty US has never been No. 1 in per capita standing at anytime in history.

So lick your wound. This is just the beginning of your free falling. In the next five years Ethiopia and Uganda will push you further down.

What a shame!!!

lezz:
If Nigeria and Egypt are flogging you on the economic front while fighting insurgency and terrorism for ages, it is quite an embarrassment and humiliation for south Africa then.

And please, your GDP per capita nonsense is only an irrelevant consultation price. UN, IMF and world power politics rely on raw GDP standing.

After all, almighty US has never been No. 1 in per capita standing at anytime in history.

So lick your wound. This is just the beginning of your free falling. In the next five years Ethiopia and Uganda will push you further down.

What a shame!!!

By cash i mean cash. We spend more on education than you spend.

andrewza:


By cash i mean cash. We spend more on education than you spend.

but your education system is ranked 140 out of 144 countries.

lezz:
but your education system is ranked 140 out of 144 countries.

According to who

https://africacheck.org/reports/is-sas-education-system-the-worst-in-africa-not-according-to-the-data/

stillchris:


I dare you Patrick to bring a citation to back your claim that northern Ireland is not part of Uk/great Britain - Northern Ireland.

And for the last time you dumb fvck... It's Britain not England.

"Northern Ireland (Irish: Tuaisceart Éireann[6] [ˈt̪ˠuəʃcəɾˠt̪ˠ ˈeːɾʲən̪ˠ]; Ulster Scots: Norlin Airlann) is a constituent unit[7] of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the northeast of the island of Ireland"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

Now disproof that with your own facts. Not ignorant opinion

Look at a map

agaugust:


SANDF is busy failing at operation Corona in their own fatherland against ordinary cross border smugglers and robbers that are 10,000 times weaker than Boko Haram that has anti-aircraft cannon and rockets.

Go fix your failing homeland army before you condemn others.

80 000 in 6 months.

That is a failure?

Nigeria:
- Boko Haram
- Word Piracy hotspot
- Nigeria Delta Crisis

Your army has more than failed

agaugust:


Like Patches would tell you that a Marine is not an army man.....maybe he thinks they are special police

A Marine is not a Soldier

A Marine is a Marine

They have to fundimentally different jobs

agaugust:


Fool at forty.

North East Nigeria is a different country called Kanem Bornu empire - Kanuris live there, not the Nigerians.

Fool at forty.

Its part of your landmass

agaugust:


Nigeria would have bought Akash SAM by that time.

Yeah, and pigs will fly by the 4th of July

agaugust:


IRA is trapped on a tiny land mass surrounded by Atlantic ocean and have no means of importing antiaircraft cannon in hundreds like Boko Haram did through Chad, Niger Republiqué and Cameroon....or else if they had that firepower, they will overrun British army bases.
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Id.iot

agaugust:


The SANDF armoured bridge launchers are just as big and heavy as those of Nigeria, there is a standard or else a tank cannot drive over the launched bridge, anything less than standard to carry 60 ton tanks will collapse. You should pay me for all these free education.

The allies use amphibious Sherman battle tanks to swim the sea and break through German concrete bunker and pill boxes that were killing allied infantry like mosquitoes.

No army drives everywhere with bridge launchers hoping to meet a river. You buy amphibious armoured vehicle's like Nigeria.

Comparing Amphibious assault to a river crossing again?

agaugust:


You have no source to back up your lies.

Prove your claim, burden of proof is on you, same way I proved that Roland shõt down bombs in Falklands war.....now Citation needed for your claim today that France and Spain phased out Roland.....prove it or you are a shame to the whole coloured race of Cape Colony !
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You cant use google?

agaugust:


American Muslims carried out 911 attack in New York, or you think Boko Haram did it? Fool at forty.

No, those were not American muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

The irony that you are going about calling people fools when the only fool here is you

lionel4power:
we have 2 landing ship tank.. NNS AMBE and NN ofun
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here's an excerpt from a Sierra Leone newspaper years back.

On 02 December 1997 Sierra Leone's military junta accused
Nigeria on Tuesday of moving an amphibious tank landing ship
and two support vessels into Sierra Leone's territorial waters. A
military spokesman said the NNS Ambe and two support ships
had anchored 30 nautical miles off the Sierra Leonean coast
before pulling back into international waters. "The three Nigerian
warships which anchored about 30 nautical miles in Sierra Leone
territorial waters have sailed back into international waters from
their former position," the spokesman said.

fear of invasion.
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so you see how we outclass you? we can invade any country in Africa except Egypt, morroco and algeria

1. Its inoperable
2. 4-5 tanks =/= invasion (capacity of the craft)

EVarn:
Indeed,we will.
Nigeria must unite the black world and bring about the era of negros.
Imagine what will happen if we can generate massive electric power and use it as one of our foreign policy reagents in Africa; If we can power Africa,then,a Nigerian president wouldnt be only a president in Nigeria,but an emperor of the black race.
The best way to gain leadership is by using the most obvious weakness of your target to propagate your own grand agenda,for the greater good of all.

Jesus Christ.

Nigerians are literally insane

agaugust:


How did you cross to the other side of the lake or river? SANDF has NO amphibious armoured vehicle? If a water body is too wide your bridge layer cannot span across the distance if you want to build pontoon bridges, the enemy will catch up from behind you and wìpe out SANDF at the water side, then dump their dead bodies into the river to tilapia fish to eat.

Meanwhile IMF says Egypt has overtaken South Africa in GDP as every thing about South Africa continues to decline.

South Africa is getting wrecked even without a war or insurgency at home, imagine where the country will be if they were the ones fighting a 6 year Boko Haram war on homesoil.

Declining economy, no wonder Botha never wanted to hand over the country to empty brain Zulu- Xhosa- Bantu people who rank below Somalians on intelligence rankings for Africa

[img]http://cdn1.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/285x368xJacob-Zuma1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.bSW3BTa5m8.webp[/img]
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Nope - mobility warfare, we go around it

andrewza:


According to who

https://africacheck.org/reports/is-sas-education-system-the-worst-in-africa-not-according-to-the-data/

PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE. YOU'RE EVEN LAST IN SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS. THANKS TO ZULU ANC.

agaugust:


If the enemy is not coming from behind you, then he is on the other side of the river, so he is waiting for you with his tanks, you are the one who now needs to cross a wide lake Victoria with pontoon bridges and not all pontoons can hold a heavy tank to cross.

Do you know how much heavy material in large numbers is needed to be transported from your HQ base to a far away river? You think is like loading one truck with oranges? How many building materials are needed to bridge a large lake and how many days to transport them by land especially if it's over harsh road terrain, you dunce? See why modern armies have simple solution of amphibious vehicles? Fool, SANDF is a bunch of fools with no amphibious vehicles in 2015 !

By the way, does your motorized infantry drive around with bridges all the time in case they might need them ? All we see in your military exercises are basic MRAPs.

1. We will go around the lake
2. Again, irrelevant we will go around the lake
3. Yes - in militaries that plan, if there is an need to cross the water obsticle it will be deployed.
4. I dont see anything at your military exercises because you havent had one in 6 years

agaugust:


Does your army carry bridges everywhere they go on the battle space like it's a backpack portable bridge? You carry bridges on your MRAPs?

I have never seen a photo of SANDF armoured vehicles in Congo or Sudan followed by loads and loads of trucks carrying bridges, your army did not even deploy bridge construction materials and engineers in Congo DRC, you deployed infantry only.

You want the enemy to wait for you to order aircraft lifting bridge building materials from Pretoria to arrive in 3 days? The enemy has already gained tactical battlefield advantage over you and crossed river Congo while SANDF is killed in their stranded and trapped position.

Also can you build bridges across the Atlantic ocean for amphibious landing when your ships are anchored 5 km away from sea shore to avoid enemy mortar and artillery fire? You ever see an army build pontoon bridge that long on an ocean?

My question is how come you crossed the river to the other side with tanks while you were spending and wasting days and days requesting your army HQ to send trucks and trucks and trucks loaded with heavy pieces of bridge construction equipment to be transported over long distance on off road rough terrain while your main army of armoured non-amphibious vehicles remain stranded and trapped at the river side unable to cross, while the enemy pursuing you from behind has caught up with you and demolished SANDF to be buried by Nigerian army at the lake side?

You say how come we are behind you on that side of the river? Okey then we are the ones on the other side of the river waiting for you with T-72 tanks armed with ERA armour and 125mm killer main gun !

Dunce, your foolish argument is claiming that your army is on the two sides of the river, you are building bridge to cross on the left river bank, yet you claim you are on the opposite side on the right river bank waiting with tanks.....fool, only you spread all over the battle space like termites? Where is the enemy position then ?

Stop wasting my time, South Africa has A BIG TACTICAL DEFICIENCY with no amphibious armoured vehicles, stop twisting military doctrinal and tactical facts, I am a trained battlefield simulator, stop arguing blindly with me. Accept free education from Nigeria and learn .

Only the fools of South Africa will build a tactical combat bridge across a huge ocean....nation of fools, no wonder your economy is crumbling.

PHOTOS : AMERICAN MARINES AMPHIBIOUS ARMOURED VEHICLES CROSSING WATERS IN 2014

[img]http://navylive.dodlive.mil/files/2015/08/150819-N-SU278-029-1024x681.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.doncio.navy.mil/uploads/0814XVE13274.jpg[/img]
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1. Yes, if the need bridges they do. We did not need bridges in DRC

2. MARINES DOING AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT

3. Argument invalid - we deployed bridges multiple times in operations in angola

Your argument is meaningless and vauge and applies equally to you.

You are a complete assclown

agaugust:
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[size=13pt] Big problem, SANDF new Badger IFV so much boasted about here, does NOT have automatic cannon !

It's GI-30 30mm Cam main gun fires only single shots like a bush animal hunter's rifle [/size]
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html


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Are you reta.rrded?

Seriously? Are you fvcking retadrr.ded?

lezz:
PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE. YOU'RE EVEN LAST IN SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS. THANKS TO ZULU ANC.

Again according to who
https://africacheck.org/reports/is-sa-bottom-of-the-class-in-maths-and-science-why-ranking-is-meaningless/

Secondly, the ranking was derived from an annual “Executive Opinion Survey” carried out by the WEF. This opinion survey draws on interviews with various unidentified “business leaders”.

In this instance, around 50 South African “business leaders” were asked to assess the quality of maths and science education in the country and score it from poor to excellent. Individual responses were then arbitrarily weighted according to the sector each “business leader” worked in. The weighting was based on the “estimated contributions to a country’s GDP of each of the four main economic sectors: agriculture, manufacturing industry, non-manufacturing industry, and services”.

agaugust:


Single shot capability ONLY 60 rounds per minute.....fvcking slow rate of fire on a $ 5 million Badger IFV !

Nigerian 23mm Igirigi fires 1000 rounds per minute !

Nigerian 30mm BTR-4 fire 500 rounds per minute !

So what?

Accuracy > R.O.F

Also, 4km range