And just in case, this is above your paygrade and fail to get it still, go and hug transformer!



The thing is, people, when you are a loser and you are losing, you will do anything to "shake up" the situation for a possible opportunity to change your misfortunes.

Turkey is desperate and Turkey will resort to desperate measures to keep its ISIS lifeline alive.

-Do the weapons that ISIS use fall out of thin air? No! They are shipped across borders.
-Do fighters miraculously appear on the battlefield? No! They have to cross these wonderful imaginary line called borders.
-Does the financial resources to wage war fall unto the laps of Jihadists outta heaven? No! They ALWAYS have accomplices that make this possible.

Turkey is totally complicit in the aiding and abetting of ISIS and Putin is doing God's work in rooting this evil, rotten scourge off the face of the earth. Erdogan personally is neck deep, along side his son and his daughter in providing material and financial aid to ISIS. Their company and hospital has been outed as part of this terror network. This can no longer be ignored and as the days and months go by, it would become irrefutably clear to even the most naive and/or stubborn of detractors.

Even the US Vice President[b]Joe Biden[/b], in a moment of candor (or perhaps flash of senility, as Underground has mentioned), as far back as 2014, outed Turkey as a sponsor of ISIS. A PressTV reporter Serena Shim while courageously investigating columns of truck loaded with arms and ammunition being shipped from Turkey into Syria, was killed in a mysterious car crash of whose investigation (or even lack thereof) has been shrouded in secrecy and marked with intimidation of truth seekers into the crash. A German magazine also carried the story of these trucks shipping arms into Syria. And just today, it was reported by RT (Russia's propaganda network according to an enlightened few ) that a Turkish newspaper editor was charged to court for 'espionage' after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants.
For your reading pleasure, I have taken the liberty to provide the links to these stories:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/05/politics/isis-biden-erdogan-apology/index.html
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/10/19/382854/press-tv-reporter-in-turkey-killed/
http://www.dw.com/en/is-supply-channels-through-turkey/av-18091048
https://www.rt.com/news/323557-turkey-arrests-editor-cumhuriyet/

^^^These are just a few examples.

Detractors will never address the real issues. They will prance all over the threads looking to pick fights by using colourful gutter language and derogatory Putin monikers to drive home their point drivel. They will avoid answering straightforward questions and twist facts to support their flawed narrative. They will sometimes throw in a bit of sensational conspiracy theories such as the banking elite and the Rothschilds and the reptilian Illuminati and one world government (NWO) and so forth in a weak and futile attempt to discredit or ridicule people that harbour anti-Western views. BUT unfortunately for them, their jig is up. People have become more aware and don't buy their B.S. any longer.

Speaking of twisting facts, here are a few examples:

The U.S rather than sanction banks that facilitate ISIS's illicit crude oil sales, instead targeted Russian banks that assist the Syrian government sell its oil. The morbidly anti-Putin and ant-Russian geniuses in Nairaland have now flipped that story and claimed that these Russian banks in truth were helping ISIS! Lol!
16 months after Barrack Obama proclaimed that the US was going to "degrade and ultimately destroy ISIS", it has only just started to bomb ISIS -after Russia initiated this move- and is still yet to sanction companies or countries that help ISIS sell this oil in the international market.
So much for degrading and ultimately destroying ISIS!!
In fact ISIS took over more territory (Palmyra for instance) as the US carried out its fake bombing of ISIS.

What's more, PBS has been busted to trying to pass off a Russian ISIS oil tanker strike as American. Do not be foo.led people, America isn't fully committed to fighting ISIS and as a recently declassified DIA report indicated, America willfully allowed ISIS to emerge and did nothing to stop its sponsors and facilitators in the mold of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel and Jordan. ISIS is America's proxy army being used in an ultimately futile attempt to topple the Syrian government.

Other propaganda that these detractors will spew is to equate the people of the Donbass in Eastern Ukraine with the ISIS terrorists in a mind-boggling and nonsensical accusation of Russia's hypocrisy. They forget that these Ukranian rebels unlike the murderous lunatics in Syria and Iraq do not engage in terror acts, they do not stage mass executions and beheadings, they do not espouse a sick and twisted ideology, amongst others. These rebels who are mostly of Russian ethnicity, in Eastern Ukraine have only asked, in the spirit of self-determination, to cease to be part of a country run by a putsch regime with members within the cabinet that have neo-nazi ties and harbour morbidly anti Russian views. These rebels of the LPR and DPR have even asked to rejoin mother Russia but Putin, perhaps holding unto hope of a detente with the West has turned down the request of the LPR and DPR. Putin has however used the diplomatic angle (Minsk 1 and Minsk 2) to de-escalate the situation in the hope for peaceful resolution of the crisis. Putin has shown over and over again that he is capable of wielding the diplomatic stick just as well as the military one. That he has got the tact and will to see this through to the end. He isn't called a master chess player for nothing and for those that say he has lost his prestige and his aura because he hasn't rushed into launching a misguided military attack on Turkey should cast their minds to the scene in the Game of Thrones whereupon The Red Viper foo.l.ishly blinded by his arrogance, believed he had outwitted and outpaced a gentle and patient giant in the person of The Mountain, thumped his chest, let down his guard and prematurely celebrated his 'victory' only to face a utterly rude shock...

The SAA and the Iraqi Army, following the Russian intervention are gradually winning back lost territory one day at a time, one village at a time, one town at a time until hopefully their countries are fully rid of these jihadists perpetuated by the West and its allies. This is another example of another piece of good news as reported this morning:
Iraq cuts ‘last ISIS supply line’ into Ramadi, retakes Palestine Bridge

Even allies within the Western sphere are gradually waking up and realizing the need to work within a Russian coalition. This was French president yesterday, side by side with his Russian counterpart in Moscow calling for the need for cooperation with Russia.

French and German politicians are also voicing out, asking that unfounded sanctions against Russia be dropped. French lawmakers have visited Crimea and asked that the demonizing stop and sanctions be lifted and so forth.

So much for the isolation of Russia!

I can cite countless examples from European and American scholars, journalists, politicians, key government officials and even intelligence officials calling for rapprochement with Russia.

Finally, here is the news coing out of Turkey this morning:
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Ankara Suspends Air Force Flights Over Syria After Attack on Su-24 - Media

According to Turkish media, Ankara halted the flights of its aviation over Syria.

ANKARA (Sputnik) – Turkey has suspended its Air Force flights over Syria in the international coalition campaign in the fight against the Islamic State after the downing of the Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber, Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper reported Friday, citing diplomatic sources.
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Considering that the pro-Western corner has been the loudest, prancing about with braggadocio, taunting, goading, and daring strong man Putin to do his worst - and after the formidable S400 air defense has now been deployed - tell me who is turkeying chickening out now?

Lest we forget the genesis of this all:

[size=14pt]2007[/size], The New-Yorker, The Re-Direction by Pulitzer winner and respected investigative journalist Seymour Hersh:

"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

Or this:

Regarding ISIS, here’s some documentary proof:
5/23/15 http://www.sott.net/article/296809-Secret-Pentagon-report-reveals-West-saw-ISIS-as-strategic-asset A declassified secret US government document obtained by the conservative public interest law firm, Judicial Watch, shows that Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to topple Syrian dictator Bashir al-Assad.

The revelations contradict the official line of Western government on their policies in Syria, and raise disturbing questions about secret Western support for violent extremists abroad, while using the burgeoning threat of terror to justify excessive mass surveillance and crackdowns on civil liberties at home.

Among the batch of documents obtained by Judicial Watch through a federal lawsuit, released earlier this week, is a US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document then classified as “secret,” dated 12th August 2012.

Or this:

Apart from bombing the crap out of #Libya via #NATO the British planned the war with Syria in 2009 2 yrs before the "Arab Spring" using “moderate” terrorists. Think Al Qaeda aka “The Database.”

In a live TV interview the Ex French Foreign Minister, Roland Dumas, reveals all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY

Fake Gov't propaganda via #MSMLies tries to convince us the UK/US et al are fighting IS except they're using them to topple Assad:
http://shoebat.com/.../isis-leader-admits-funded-obama.../

Or this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMJON4y_jac
Wesley Clark ( US 4 Star General ) US will attack 7 countries in 5 years. - YouTube.flv

Here he is again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

Yet again!:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcoKnTGf4s

Also don't forget the vital supply corridor that must be protected right from the Turkish border

Cool!! Honestly You have made some vital points, research and analyses up there and it deserves to be pushed to the front page - but I doubt if it will because you laced it with insult ''go and hug transformer''. It's uncalled-for.
You can do better than that!!

NairaMinted:
Lest we forget the genesis of this all:

[size=14pt]2007[/size], The New-Yorker, The Re-Direction by Pulitzer winner and respected investigative journalist Seymour Hersh:

"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

This assertion is wrong, If Bush really wanted to weaken Iran, he wouldn't have removed Saddam Hussein who was a sunni, a give rise to Shia dominated government which will embrace Iran. In fact Bush action from 2003 has only helped empower the Iranians more than ever. unfortunately, Bush was an unintelligent man who seem interested in creating chaos in the ME.

vedaxcool:


This assertion is wrong, If Bush really wanted to weaken Iran, he wouldn't have removed Saddam Hussein who was a sunni, a give rise to Shia dominated government which will embrace Iran. In fact Bush action from 2003 has only helped empower the Iranians more than ever. unfortunately, Bush was an unintelligent man who seem interested in creating chaos in the ME.

Not necessarily and also irrelevant. There are several ways to catch a rat and getting rid of another nuisance (in this case, Saddam) doesn't necessarily mean you can't forge ahead with catching that rat through other means.

NairaMinted:


Not necessarily and also irrelevant. There are several ways to catch a rat and getting rid of another nuisance (in this case, Saddam) doesn't necessarily mean you can't forge ahead with catching that rat through other means.

It makes no sense of getting rid of Saddam thereby guaranteeing greater Iranian influence in the region, your point fails because Bush actions only helped fueled Iran's rise in the region. Secondly saying the US is moving against Hezbollah as another evidence clearly shows how far from reality you are, Hezbollah is regarded in the West as a terror organization, similar to alqaeda, it only makes sense for the US to be against them, whether Iran was involved or not. The Americans clearly knew removing Saddam would give Iran control over Iraq, yet they remove him thereby facilitating Iran's expanding influence.

Washington's flawed foreign policies getting less and less palatable.

Washington's allies getting more and more uncomfortable tagging along on a destructive path.

Europe slowly snapping outta it's slumber.



Hollande wrong to follow Obama in dividing terrorists into ‘good’ and ‘bad’– French MP
Published: 27 Nov 2015 | 19:10 GMT
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Reuters

The Western trend of splitting terrorists into good and bad ones is now the main threat for Syria, Nicolas Dhuicq of the French legislative defense commission told RT, expressing regret that the same approach is used by the leader of his country, Francois Hollande.

Dhuicq said that he shares Russia’s stance that “Islamic State [IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL], Al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra are all our enemies and should all be stricken.”

“But, unfortunately, the French president is following the American one and they’re starting to believe that you have good and bad Islamists. That’s the main threat to Syria we have today,” he stressed.

The French MP said that the negotiations between Hollande and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Thursday were essential to both countries' fight against terrorists in Syria.

“There are talks because of military questions about the movements of ships, especially of the French aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle. You need to have talks with Russia, so you don’t collide in the air – as to what concern the airplanes – and at sea – as to what concerns ship and even submarines,” he explained.


Dhuicq also slammed Recep Tayyip Erdogan, calling the Turkish president a “scoundrel” for downing a Russian warplane earlier this week.

From the start of the Russian air campaign in Syria on September 30, the Turkish leader “was disturbed that the Russian Air Force is denying his double play in the region because Erdogan is trafficking oil with Islamic State as we all know,” he explained.

According to the MP, Erdogan also wants annex a part of northern Syria where Turkish speakers live, but Russian forces are hampering his plans.


A Russian Su-24 was shot down by a Turkish F-16 fighter jet near the Turkish-Syrian border on Tuesday.

One Russian pilot was killed by Syrian rebels while parachuting, with the other one was rescued and delivered to Khmeimim airbase.

Despite the claims from Ankara, Moscow maintains that its jet, which crashed in Syria, did not violate Turkish airspace.

On Friday, Moscow suspended visa-free travel with Turkey as part of response measures to the downing of its plane, including the boosting of air defense at the Khmeimim air base in Syria and cutting military cooperation with Ankara.

vedaxcool:


It makes no sense of getting rid of Saddam thereby guaranteeing greater Iranian influence in the region, your point fails because Bush actions only helped fueled Iran's rise in the region. Secondly saying the US is moving against Hezbollah as another evidence clearly shows how far from reality you are, Hezbollah is regarded in the West as a terror organization, similar to alqaeda, it only makes sense for the US to be against them, whether Iran was involved or not. The Americans clearly knew removing Saddam would give Iran control over Iraq, yet they remove him thereby facilitating Iran's expanding influence.

So you would rather take on Iran and Iraq in one fell swoop? Don't you get that is easier to take them out one after the other and over a period of time cos it will be less of a burden on the resources at your disposal? It's all strategic planning.

So, if the fall of Saddam had perhaps allowed Iran to wield more influence in the region, I think that was a risk Uncle Sam was willing to take. Or perhaps, the US didn't anticipate things will turn awry they way it did cos Iraqi traitors such as Chalabi had been lined up to take the reigns of the country and guarantee that Iraqi became a vassal state answerable to the dictates of Washington.

In either case, Washington's plan as exposed by Seymour Hersh is playing out almost exactly as predicted. Sunni Al-Qaeda and ISIS terror hordes have been unleashed in Iraq and Syria which also threaten Iran and Hezbollah.
Also, MEK, an Iranian terror group had been delisted as a terror group by the State Departmemt paving way for them to receive funds from bodies such as the NED and USAID in the name of "transparency, freedom and democracy" when in fact this will serve as a platform for the sedition of the Iranian government

One last pay before I'm off to church!



The Turkish regime in recent days has been outed (to the general public - surely not to the intelligence community) as one of the sponsors of ISIS. It baffles me that some people on here in a shameless attempt to maintain their anti Putin, anti-Russian stance have now jumped on the I-Stand-With-Turkey bandwagon.

The Turkish Prime Minister has struck conciliatory tone in recent days.

The Turkish president has requested to meet face to face with Putin in Paris. Putin has rejected such until Turkey apologizes.

A retired US general who was in charge of NORAD and supervised more Soviet aircraft interdictions more than anyone else has accused Turkey of ambushing the Russian plane since we all know that 17 secs is just too short a time for the air controllers to make a decision and relay an order back to their pilot to shoot down a plane. There are several measures, including visual (seating on the wing), that could have been used to threaten any trespassing plane and force them out of restricted airspace.
Besides, the Russian jet was shot down over Syrian airspace.

Since Russia deployed the S-400, there are reports - if true- that there has been no incursions into Syrian airspace by either Turkish or American jets and this seems to be the case.
I am willing to bet that should such an incursion occur, Russia will - mark my words - shoot down any erring jet and Heaven won't fall. NATO won't come to the aid of a reckless Turkey. The body language from the likes of France and Germany suggests that they do not want war. Erdogan will be sorely mistaken if he thinks NATO will come to his aid.

I just don't get the jubilation coming from some quarters when they claim Putin is just a noise maker or hasn't lived up to his billing as a strong man!

Whilst Putin, to the disappointment of his blood thirsty detractors (aplenty here on NAIRALAND) hasn't respond with a rushed and misguided military attack on Turkey, the desperation of the West has been laid bare for all to see. This panic and desperation is twofold:

1. The US only started bombing those oil tankers only after Russia exposed the facilitators of ISIS.
Just what kind of fake war has the US been fighting against ISIS for the previous 13 months prior to Russia joining the fray if they have not been bombing the very source of ISIS's wealth? Isn't it easier to finish off ISIS by destroying ISIS's crude oil lifeline?

2. The US has also instructed its lackey and vassal state, Turkey to mass troops at its border with Syria under the guise of sealing it from ISIS. Anyone that has been following the events over the past 4/5 years will realize that is a smokescreen to the long wanted NATO invasion of northern Syria and the carving of a terrorist safe Heaven. This much has been discussed within the US Senate Armed Forced Commitee and by thinks tanks such as the Brookings Institute several times.

All Russia needs to do is stay the course, keep bombing these terrorists to smithereens which will surely drain ISIS and their ability to wage war and also frustrate Erdogan the more. So tell me if that isn't a winning strategy? The SAA has gained territory and will continue to do so as long as Russia stays the course.
Should the US and its gulf allies attempt the up the costs for Russia with more provocations or the planned land incursion, I see other players such as Iran committing more troops and perhaps even China objecting more forcefully to the US's interference with Syria. Who knows, China too many join the Russian anti-ISIS coalition!


End of story!

vedaxcool:


unfortunately, Bush was an unintelligent man who seem interested in creating chaos in the ME.

And chaos is what he indeed successfully created. Just see the the place now.

Brilliant!
The best way to deal with terrorists is to cut off their supply line and source of income, and that is exactly what Russia is doing.

@nairaminted,u'av said it all,those guys u see here defending america are all kids who have been ''addicted and brainwashed'' by hollywood american war movies,and have since lost touch with reality..the soviet union may be dead but its heart(russia)is still breathing,and is being led by a great CZAR(PUTIN)..how i wish this could get to front page!

saxywale:
Brilliant!
The best way to deal with terrorists is to cut off their supply line and source of income, and that is exactly what Russia is doing.

These extremists are labeled terrorist organizations because they also plan and formulate policies to execute their wicked plans.

Should their supply be cut off,they would always device another means of survival as they've done for decades now.

I'll implore Russia to name every party involved in finding ISIS and other extremist to the world view and let the world decide who truely is the enemy.

Russian Pilot Rescued by Iran's General Soleiman
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940905000553

NairaMinted:


So you would rather take on Iran and Iraq in one fell swoop? Don't you get that is easier to take them out one after the other and over a period of time cos it will be less of a burden on the resources at your disposal? It's all strategic planning.

Why take a Iraqi Regime that posed no immediate threat to US designs in the ME and leave the Iranian regime that posed one?

NairaMinted:

So, if the fall of Saddam had perhaps allowed Iran to wield more influence in the region, I think that was a risk Uncle Sam was willing to take. Or perhaps, the US didn't anticipate things will turn awry they way it did cos Iraqi traitors such as Chalabi had been lined up to take the reigns of the country and guarantee that Iraqi became a vassal state answerable to the dictates of Washington.

Sadam would have never be that setwpid to allow the Iranians wield such influence considering that he was a minority governing a country, it is like saying Assad moves towards Saudi, like I said Iraq is pivotal to Iran's desire for regional dominance, so why would the US remove a man that could have proven a bulwark against Iran? The US actions in the ME only successfully strengthen Iran not weaken it!

NairaMinted:

In either case, Washington's plan as exposed by Seymour Hersh is playing out almost exactly as predicted. Sunni Al-Qaeda and ISIS terror hordes have been unleashed in Iraq and Syria which also threaten Iran and Hezbollah.

The sad thing with your analysis is the fact you believe so much in it, What is Hezbollah business in Syria? Nothing, the fact that Hezbollah entered syria made it a target for al-qaeda, Now you say Sunni Al-qaeda do you know you savior bashar assad supported al-qeada in Iraq to the extent that the Iraqi National Security Advisor traveled to Damascus and warned Assad that the actions will back fire?

watch this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHrULpYeFk

You need to understand that Assad unleashed terror on the Iraqis because he thought the terrorist will prevent washington from invading Syria and keep them preoccupied! But today he is a victim of his own evil! Can you show me where ISIS has attack Iran? nowhere at all, ISIS has attack the Saudis repeatedly, Lebanon, Turkey, but not Iran, ISIS is a threat to everyone in the region, but the fact that for you to sustain your misguided points, your continue to support your arguement by creating scenarios that do not exist.

NairaMinted:

Also, MEK, an Iranian terror group had been delisted as a terror group by the State Departmemt paving way for them to receive funds from bodies such as the NED and USAID in the name of "transparency, freedom and democracy" when in fact this will serve as a platform for the sedition of the Iranian government

True the useless US government sponsors terrorism when it suits their interest, but so does Iran and the rest of the crew you so eagerly legetimize as being victims, look at what Iran is doing in Yemen? a country on the brink of poverty

NairaMinted:
And just in case, this is above your paygrade and fail to get it still, go and hug transformer!

Putin pays well right? Lolz

NairaMinted:

The thing is, people, when you are a loser and you are losing, you will do anything to "shake up" the situation for a possible opportunity to change your misfortunes.

Turkey is desperate and Turkey will resort to desperate measures to keep its ISIS lifeline alive.

-Do the weapons that ISIS use fall out of thin air? No! They are shipped across borders.
-Do fighters miraculously appear on the battlefield? No! They have to cross these wonderful imaginary line called borders.
-Does the financial resources to wage war fall unto the laps of Jihadists outta heaven? No! They ALWAYS have accomplices that make this possible.

As usual allegations with no shred of evidence, the desperate one is Russia who saw their dying ally hitting rock bottom and decided to step in. the provocateur remains Russia who despite severall warnings about entering into Turkeys airspace repeatedly violated Turkeys airspace? and your mean to tell me Syria arms haven't fallen into ISIS hands? Or you mean to tell me Iraqi arms haven't fallen into ISIS arms? Or you mean to tell me only Turkey shares a border with Syria? Or you mean to deny Syrian criminal regime didn't deliberately free radical elements from its cell to join up with ISIS? How long do you intend to live in this fantasy land you have created?

NairaMinted:

Turkey is totally complicit in the aiding and abetting of ISIS and Putin is doing God's work in rooting this evil, rotten scourge off the face of the earth. Erdogan personally is neck deep, along side his son and his daughter in providing material and financial aid to ISIS. Their company and hospital has been outed as part of this terror network. This can no longer be ignored and as the days and months go by, it would become irrefutably clear to even the most naive and/or stubborn of detractors.

Lies upon lies in the service of mother Russia! Assad supported terrorism till he got what came his way,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHrULpYeFk

Assad still buys oil from ISIL, all you have on your hands are layers of unsubstantiated innuendos. Turkey has repeatedly bomb ISIS but that seems far off your rader, the Syrian regime and its accomplice to murder seem more interest in killing the legitimate opposition while ignoring ISIS. Putin do God's works? LMAO do you know your accomplice in Syria has killed more innocent people compared to ISIS? Abeg leave God out of your murderous rampage!

NairaMinted:

Even the US Vice President[b]Joe Biden[/b], in a moment of candor (or perhaps flash of senility, as Underground has mentioned), as far back as 2014, outed Turkey as a sponsor of ISIS. A PressTV reporter Serena Shim while courageously investigating columns of truck loaded with arms and ammunition being shipped from Turkey into Syria, was killed in a mysterious car crash of whose investigation (or even lack thereof) has been shrouded in secrecy and marked with intimidation of truth seekers into the crash. A German magazine also carried the story of these trucks shipping arms into Syria. And just today, it was reported by RT (Russia's propaganda network according to an enlightened few ) that a Turkish newspaper editor was charged to court for 'espionage' after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants.
For your reading pleasure, I have taken the liberty to provide the links to these stories:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/05/politics/isis-biden-erdogan-apology/index.html
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/10/19/382854/press-tv-reporter-in-turkey-killed/
http://www.dw.com/en/is-supply-channels-through-turkey/av-18091048
https://www.rt.com/news/323557-turkey-arrests-editor-cumhuriyet/

^^^These are just a few examples.

Biden has said many things about Russia, do we also call it moment of realization or what?

“The Kremlin is working hard to buy off and co-opt European political forces, funding both right wing and left wing anti-systemic parties throughout Europe,” Biden said. Russia and other nations also “are using corruption and oligarchs as tools of coercion.”

The singular fact that Turkey has bombed ISIS leaves whatever conspiracy you are cooking undone!

NairaMinted:

Detractors will never address the real issues. They will prance all over the threads looking to pick fights by using colourful gutter language and derogatory Putin monikers to drive home their point drivel. They will avoid answering straightforward questions and twist facts to support their flawed narrative. They will sometimes throw in a bit of sensational conspiracy theories such as the banking elite and the Rothschilds and the reptilian Illuminati and one world government (NWO) and so forth in a weak and futile attempt to discredit or ridicule people that harbour anti-Western views. BUT unfortunately for them, their jig is up. People have become more aware and don't buy their B.S. any longer.

Neither should people buy Russia's BS


Speaking of twisting facts, here are a few examples:

NairaMinted:

The U.S rather than sanction banks that facilitate ISIS's illicit crude oil sales, instead targeted Russian banks that assist the Syrian government sell its oil. The morbidly anti-Putin and ant-Russian geniuses in Nairaland have now flipped that story and claimed that these Russian banks in truth were helping ISIS! Lol!
16 months after Barrack Obama proclaimed that the US was going to "degrade and ultimately destroy ISIS", it has only just started to bomb ISIS -after Russia initiated this move- and is still yet to sanction companies or countries that help ISIS sell this oil in the international market.
So much for degrading and ultimately destroying ISIS!!
In fact ISIS took over more territory (Palmyra for instance) as the US carried out its fake bombing of ISIS.

Most of Syria's oils produced by ISIS is consumed locally

NairaMinted:

What's more, PBS has been busted to trying to pass off a Russian ISIS oil tanker strike as American. Do not be foo.led people, America isn't fully committed to fighting ISIS and as a recently declassified DIA report indicated, America willfully allowed ISIS to emerge and did nothing to stop its sponsors and facilitators in the mold of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel and Jordan. ISIS is America's proxy army being used in an ultimately futile attempt to topple the Syrian government.

More B.S

NairaMinted:

Other propaganda that these detractors will spew is to equate the people of the Donbass in Eastern Ukraine with the ISIS terrorists in a mind-boggling and nonsensical accusation of Russia's hypocrisy. They forget that these Ukranian rebels unlike the murderous lunatics in Syria and Iraq do not engage in terror acts, they do not stage mass executions and beheadings, they do not espouse a sick and twisted ideology, amongst others. These rebels who are mostly of Russian ethnicity, in Eastern Ukraine have only asked, in the spirit of self-determination, to cease to be part of a country run by a putsch regime with members within the cabinet that have neo-nazi ties and harbour morbidly anti Russian views. These rebels of the LPR and DPR have even asked to rejoin mother Russia but Putin, perhaps holding unto hope of a detente with the West has turned down the request of the LPR and DPR. Putin has however used the diplomatic angle (Minsk 1 and Minsk 2) to de-escalate the situation in the hope for peaceful resolution of the crisis. Putin has shown over and over again that he is capable of wielding the diplomatic stick just as well as the military one. That he has got the tact and will to see this through to the end. He isn't called a master chess player for nothing and for those that say he has lost his prestige and his aura because he hasn't rushed into launching a misguided military attack on Turkey should cast their minds to the scene in the Game of Thrones whereupon The Red Viper foo.l.ishly blinded by his arrogance, believed he had outwitted and outpaced a gentle and patient giant in the person of The Mountain, thumped his chest, let down his guard and prematurely celebrated his 'victory' only to face a utterly rude shock...

You showed your hypocrisy, it is proper for Russia to support militants who do its bidding but wrong for others to do same? It is hard explaining the truth to hypocrites! If Russia defends ethnic Russia, there is nothing wrong with the turks defending turkmen! By your claims nothing is wrong supporting militants since it is left to you to create your own truths! The rest of what you wrote is utter B.S

I LOVE YOU, YOU LOVE ME...

Video Shows ISIS Militants Having Friendly Chat With Turkish Border Guards

Turkey: shooting down Russian planes while gossiping with takfiri terrorists
Rudy Panko Sat, Nov 28| 15,042 31

An ISIS-Turkish shindig. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Don't file this one under “surprising”, but a video has emerged of ISIS jihadists having a lovely chit-chat with Turkish border guards. The video is allegedly from October, so this is not a new Turkish tourism campaign launched in the wake of losing hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists. No, Turkey just sort of “likes” ISIS. They go together like peas and carrots. This is precious:
The clip begins with the two apparent jihadists lighting fires near a group of cars, which are believed to have been abandoned by desperate Kurdish families who fled Kobane in recent weeks when ISIS militants stepped up their attacks on the city.
After appearing to realise they are being filmed from inside Turkey, the pair start walking towards the border fence, stopping only to mockingly wave at the amateur filmmaker.
As they reach the border fence, an armoured military vehicle belonging to Turkish border guards speeds up to meet them. Heavily armed officials jump out the back of the car and - after briefly talking on their radios, simply engage the men in conversation.
At one point the situation appears tense and a border guard scampers towards the militants with his gun briefly raised, but he stops seconds later and also begins talking to the men.
After several minutes chatting, the militants wander off, defiantly raising their index finger to the sky to represent jihadism while chanting 'Allahu Akbar' - a phrase that translates as 'God is the greatest'.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/video-shows-isis-militants-having-friendly-chat-turkish-border-officers/ri11511

vedaxcool:


Putin pays well right? Lolz

Yes he does

Appleyard:
Turns Out, Russia Was Right: ISIL Oil is Going to Turkey – German Media
Submitted by IWB, on November 29th, 2015



http:// www.v eterans today.c om /2015/1 1 /28/ero dgan- owes-s yria- 100bn- for-stol en- oil-iraq - owed-1 -5tn/

Of course it's going to Turkey.

Appleyard:
I LOVE YOU, YOU LOVE ME...



http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/video-shows-isis-militants-having-friendly-chat-turkish-border-officers/ri11511

Haven't you learnt anything yet, brother? This is a lie. You have failed to provide any shred of evidence hence this is a big fat lie. Another piece of Russian propaganda!!




Wait a minute! A Russian site reported this thus it must surely be another piece of Russian garbage.

So let's try Western news media; preferably the most anti-Russian of them and let's see what they have to say about the cooperation between ISIS & Turkey.

Here is Business Insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/isis-just-lost-its-back-door-2015-6

"Pipes, ammonium nitrate, and other bomb-making materials were being transported across Turkey’s border into Tal Abyad by agents of the Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh) while Turkish border guards looked the other way, Jamie Dettmer of The Daily Beast reported."

Hmmm........

What about The Daily Beast, another morbidly anti- Russian news outlet? What do they have to report:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/22/where-isis-gets-its-bombs.html


“They are very tough with the Kurds and the areas controlled by the Free Syrian Army, but with areas across from ISIS not so much,” he explains over a cup of tea in the sitting room of his apartment a short walk from the border.


All these (and more) were reported several months before the Russians decided to toss their hats in the ring. Perhaps these news media didn't anticipate that Russia would soon be a partaker in the Syrian imbroglio.

Anyway, people, it is very obvious by now to the least geopolitics savvy of humans and even to the dumb.est of the dumb.est that Turkey is the major conduit through which arms and ammunition, money, fighters, equipment etc flows to The Islamic State.

Turkey is the very lifeline through which all the other facilitators of ISIS in the Middle East sustains terror in Syria and Iraq.

NairaMinted:


Haven't you learnt anything yet, brother? This is a lie. You have failed to provide any shred of evidence hence this is a big fat lie. Another piece of Russian propaganda!!




Wait a minute! A Russian site reported this thus it must surely be another piece of Russian garbage.

So let's try Western news media; preferably the most anti-Russian of them and let's see what they have to say about the cooperation between ISIS & Turkey.

Here is Business Insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/isis-just-lost-its-back-door-2015-6

"Pipes, ammonium nitrate, and other bomb-making materials were being transported across Turkey’s border into Tal Abyad by agents of the Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh) while Turkish border guards looked the other way, Jamie Dettmer of The Daily Beast reported."

Hmmm........

What about The Daily Beast, another morbidly anti- Russian news outlet? What do they have to report:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/22/where-isis-gets-its-bombs.html


“They are very tough with the Kurds and the areas controlled by the Free Syrian Army, but with areas across from ISIS not so much,” he explains over a cup of tea in the sitting room of his apartment a short walk from the border.


All these (and more) were reported several months before the Russians decided to toss their hats in the ring. Perhaps these news media didn't anticipate that Russia would soon be a partaker in the Syrian imbroglio.

Anyway, people, it is very obvious by now to the least geopolitics savvy of humans and even to the dumb.est of the dumb.est that Turkey is the major conduit through which arms and ammunition, money, fighters, equipment etc flows to The Islamic State.

Turkey is the very lifeline through which all the other facilitators of ISIS in the Middle East sustains terror in Syria and Iraq.

The whole is seeing who is the real evil all along. There is always a breaking point in everything, and that is what is happening to some of this western media bodies. Many are no longer buying the hate mantra and derogatory propaganda misinformation. Thus, they have no option but to see things the way they are. You need to see what is happening in the BBSin comment section. No one is buying the crap misinformation anymore, and so, they resulted to closing one comment section after the other.

Though it will tarry a wgile, the forces of good will surely carry the day.

Brother, we must continue the good work, and let those who chose to sympathize with terrorists and applaud criminality, continue. We all shall have our rewards at the end of days.

BBSin?