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Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 7:41pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
vooks: Adeboye has 'canonized' a 'saint,' like Catholics do, which pentecostals condemn. First you condemn, then you copy. Jesus engaged 'dead' people. Do you know king of kings is Nebuchadnezzar? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 7:53pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Adeboye has done what Catholics do in Canonization...which pentecostals condemn...declaring that a person lived right, died in grace and is now in heaven. First, you condemn, then you copy. Scholar8200: Suddenly, they're bringing out verses to support Canonization..now that their 'pastor' has copied it. Scholar8200: There was a process. Adeboye said he spoke to the woman and inferred that she no doubt, is in heaven. That is a process. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 8:02pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Just some other examples of pentecostal clowns copying stupidly what they condemn Catholics for. 1. They condemn sacramentals then wear their own 'sacramentals' (Chosen apron) 2. They condemn the changing of water to wine but they drink petrol when their pastor says he's changed it to pineapple juice. 3. The condemn catholic vestments, then Adefarasin copies it and they love it. 4. They say the Pope has no right to say John Paul is in heaven, but they cannot condemn Adeboye for saying Awolowo is in heaven. Hypocrites! 1 Like
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Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 8:04pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
There are many more Catholic doctrines that Pentecostals demonized, then copied...with pictures. The shameful thing is that the pentecostals here are bent on denying what is so evident. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by sonofthunder: 9:44pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
italo:can you quote pastor Adeboye's words and highlight the supposed canonization? and also can you define canonization ? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by Scholar8200(m): 10:42pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
italo:In a bid to justify that practise you assume that the statement, 'rest in the bosom of the Lord' or 'transition to glory' is the same as the canonization process of the RCC!!! Suddenly you twist a post to say something different! I gave those passages to show that it was no new thing to speak of what will be one's destiny in eternity based on the faith and life lived. Catholic canonization comes years after person's death. Jesus, Paul etc spoke when still alive hence those passages where NOT given to encourage/defend your practise. Afterall was Paul 'canonising' the corinthians or ephesians when he called them saints? Kindly quote where he expressedly said the highlighted and prove that the speaking took place after her death. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:23am On Nov 27, 2015 |
italo: Jesus is God, He is the creator, he talked to Satan, demons...... That's not your lot. Catholicism on the other hand worships dead people. Adeboye even if he backslid would never sink to Catholicism blasphemy and idolatry. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:26am On Nov 27, 2015 |
italo:Jesus is God, Jesus received worship. He created them. When God talks to dead men, that is Creator addressing his creatures. He created Elijah. Are you the Creator? Necromancy is consulting the dead for counsel, protection, prayers..... I never knew Catholics are this foolish |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:32am On Nov 27, 2015 |
italo: Give us sources for this claim. Did Adeboye speak to the woman? Satan is the father of all lies and am not surprised the biggest cult on earth that worships Devils has taught its members to lie. Once again, believing people are in heaven is different from worshipping Devils. Catholicism first only entrust their pope to declare saints are in heaven, secondly they declare the saints as fit to be worshipped and consulted. This is devil worship 1 Like |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:38am On Nov 27, 2015 |
italo:Buffoon, What are 'Catholic vestments'? 2. They condemn the changing of water to wine but they drink petrol when their pastor says he's changed it to pineapple juice.M0ron, you don't deserve a response. 3. The condemn catholic vestments, then Adefarasin copies it and they love it.What are 'Catholic vestments'? Religious garb is a very minor point of difference between Catholicism and Christianity. 4. They say the Pope has no right to say John Paul is in heaven, but they cannot condemn Adeboye for saying Awolowo is in heaven. In Catholicism, only one person is imagined to be authorized to declare people to he in heaven. Italo when you die, your mother can't claim you are in heaven. Further, only the pope declares among the dead who is fit to be worshiped and consulted in necromancy rites |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 8:10pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
vooks: So Jesus is no more the role model of Christians, abi? vooks: I don't know of any dead person that Catholics worship. You're manufacturing things we don't do just to divert attention from the fact that you pentecostals condemn our doctrines and practices, then copy them. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by PastorAIO: 8:59pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
vooks: Abeg o, that is not the meaning of necromancy. Necromancy is a form of divination based on the dead. The dead are not worshipped in Necromancy. anywhere you see =mancy it is a form of divination. Geomancy. Divination using the earth Hydromancy. Dvination using water. etc etc etc |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by PastorAIO: 9:03pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
Has God stopped being the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Is he the God of the living still, or can we now add dead people to the list? Does our communion no longer include the living and the dead? Are the dead in christ dead? Who are the dead that bury the dead when Christ says let the dead bury the dead? 1 Like |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 9:33pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
italo:He is your model, can I worship you just as I worship Him? primitive Negro I don't know of any dead person that Catholics worship.idiocy and semantics. you worship dead men You're manufacturing things we don't do just to divert attention from the fact that you pentecostals condemn our doctrines and practices, then copy them.Catholicism is witchcraft; 1. Consult the dead 2. pray to images/idols 3. Vain repetitions |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 9:36pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
PastorAIO: Semantics again. What is the difference between negroes who visit cemetery and shrines to chat with their ancestors and a Catholic who desperately entreats a dead Paul to prey for him ? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 9:43pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
PastorAIO:God is God of the Living but necromancy remains a sin. Chatting with the dead is satanism and witchcraft. Saul learned this the hard way |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by PastorAIO: 9:46pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
vooks: You seem to be dismissive of the word Semantics. Why? I suspect you don't know the meaning of the word. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by PastorAIO: 9:49pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
vooks: You are responding to a post that doesn't even mention necromancy, neither in a proper meaningful way nor in the meaningless way as you have been doing so far. If the God of Abraham is the God of the living, then would you say that abraham can be dead? If abraham isn't dead then what about the other christians that claim to be children of Abraham and to share in his promises? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:44am On Nov 28, 2015 |
PastorAIO:You are devoid of reason. Isn't God too the God of Samuel? If so, why was it a sin for Saul to attempt to contact him vide the witch of Endor? 1 Chr 20:13-14 |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 4:45am On Nov 28, 2015 |
PastorAIO:What was Saul's crime? 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 4:40am On Nov 29, 2015 |
vooks: He is my role model means I should behave as he did...at least to the reasonable extent. If Adeboye is your role model, would that mean that you should sleep with his wife and head RCCG...in his place? Insulting me a million times doesn't mean that Jesus practiced necromancy. vooks: 'Dead men' that you cannot name. vooks: So Jesus practised witchcraft at the transfiguration? And it was this Catholicism witchcraft that they used in compiling the bible, changing worship day to Sunday, fixing Christmas and Easter...all further examples of Catholic doctrines and practices which you condemn and copy. vooks: So Joshua prayed to images/idols in Joshua 7:6? vooks: So Jesus said 'vain repititions' in Matt 26:44? Or could it be that at your age, you don't know the meaning of the bold...and you don't know where to find the meaning of words? It's called dictionary, boy. By the way, is it vain repitition when you and your pastors say: "shibobobobomashinda" hundred times? Or when you and your Mountain of Fire people scream "fire fire fire fire...." till they lose their voices? Condemn and copy! |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 4:46am On Nov 29, 2015 |
vooks: And Jesus who went a mountain and chatted with Elijah and Moses (you forgot that one). What's the difference? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 5:02am On Nov 29, 2015 |
vooks: 1. Necromancy is not "chatting with the dead." It is divining (conjuring their spirits). 2. Saints are alive. Jesus said so. You don't believe Jesus? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 5:08am On Nov 29, 2015 |
vooks: Did Jesus use any witch? If Saul was doing what Catholic do, would he need to travel to seek a witch? Do Catholics and Jesus need to go anywhere to talk to the Saints? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by italo: 5:25am On Nov 29, 2015 |
vooks:13 - So Saul died for his iniquities, because he transgressed the commandment of the Lord, which he had commanded, and kept it not: and moreover consulted also a witch, 14 - And trusted not is the Lord: therefore he slew him, and transferred his kingdom to David the son of Isai. Did Jesus/Catholics consult any witch? We Catholics speak to the Saints in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 5:52am On Nov 29, 2015 |
italo: Fool, the witch consulted a living Saint (Samuel) for Saul. Supposing he witch was day a domestic servant for Samuel and she sent and called Samuel from his room. Do you think Saul pull have erred in contacting a living Samuel through the witch. Grow a brain you negro Neanderthal |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 5:54am On Nov 29, 2015 |
italo: The witch was a MEDIUM to contact the dead, she was the means. Do you think if Saul contacted Samuel directly he'd have lived ? Start thinking you necromancer. Hell is beckoning. |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 5:54am On Nov 29, 2015 |
italo:Fool, necromancy is CONTACTING the dead According to you, is Samuel a saint or not? Is he living or dead? |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 5:55am On Nov 29, 2015 |
italo:Jesus is God, he created the heaven. Since you follow Jesus, what have you created lately? Jesus being God talks to dead people, he gives eternal life but you can't because you are a creature. He also died and went and preached to the dead yet you can't do that. Necromancy will lead you to hell. Virgin Mary is a demon as Mary is busy in heaven. She can't see you. If you stop worshipping Devils, you may meet her on the last day Reasoning with primitive lowIQ Negroes is a real pain |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by Empredboy(m): 6:05am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:that's why they are called protestants 1 Like |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by vooks: 6:14am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Empredboy:They had enough of bullsh*t asinine satanic doctrines such as selling sins and buying your way out of purgatory. Catholics detest thinking. They are he shallowest in scriptures preferring to regurgitate whatever Rome thinks. Look at a Catholic view on contraceptives. Hey can't think and have to wait till Rome gives instructions. How much AIDS has spread during Rome's censure if condoms. Then they shift their stance without any apology or remorse over their past errors. Catholicism is a big cult receiving doctrines from Rome |
Re: Does Adeboye Now Believe In Canonization Of Saints? by Empredboy(m): 6:16am On Nov 29, 2015 |
adsonstone:bros you know one thing about the pentecostal? They change with time or after reading the Bible to a full understanding. What I mean is when I was younger, some of the pentecostal churches I attended were not observing the sharing of the holy communion but now they do it, now a 'strong man' of God has canonized a dead person of which they condemned, I can bet you that with they thread these pentecostal churches are going they will remember the meaning of 'Christ conquering death' that death has no power over the living an the dead. So they will start asking their dead bros and sis to pray for they. |
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