I thought Putin would have nuked Turkey by now

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thank u @op... These putin asslickers really amazes me, the truth is Russia needs Turkey more than turkey need Russia because of the dwindling oil revenue. Russia decides to target soft economic sector like agriculture and clothing so as to save face while leaving the gas sector because they can't survive without the money coming from turkey. The only sector that turkey would be badly affected is their tourism sector.

It seems that the only tougher guy between the two is Erdogan

The are back with their noise, this is the second time a Russian aircraft is experiencing this attacks.

And i thought they claimed the Russian SU are invincible .

kozmokaz:
go back and chk d current state of turkey after Russian. economic sanctions!

the effect of economic sanctions would both be mutual to both countries. In fact Russia stands to lose most because their economy depend on natural gas.

the wore thing is a setup from NATO , I'd like to see what happens when Russia repeats that flight plan when their missile system is activated Turkey no just get sense, leveraging on influence of big brother NATO

OBAGADAFFI:
The are back with their noise, this is the second time a Russian aircraft is experiencing this attacks.

And i thought they claimed the Russian SU are invincible .

The Russian SU is built for pounding targets on land..not aerial combat so it's understandable

gwales:
thank u @op... These putin asslickers really amazes me, the truth is Russia needs Turkey more than turkey need Russia because of the dwindling oil revenue. Russia decides to target soft economic sector like agriculture and clothing so as to save face while leaving the gas sector because they can't survive without the money coming from turkey. The only sector that turkey would be badly affected is their tourism sector.

It seems that the only tougher guy between the two is Erdogan

I hope your erdogan will also run to NATO for aid money when his economy starts crumbling

Metrofox:

The Russian SU is built for pounding targets on land..not aerial combat so it's understandable

Story Bomber are usually protected during operation.

Just admit they caught the Russians off-guard.

OBAGADAFFI:


Story Bomber are usually protected during operation.

Just admit they caught the Russians off-guard.

They have now brought in a lovely missile system so the next weeks will be interesting

OBAGADAFFI:


Story Bomber are usually protected during operation.

Just admit they caught the Russians off-guard.

The bomber jets were not initially being protected by fighter jets because Russia considers your human eating rebels as a rag tag set of murderers without air force and did not believe that your Muslim brotherhood and islamist he-goat erdogoat can order such an attack on them.
Now they have started guiding each bombing mission with SU34 multirole fighter jets, S400 and Moskva guided cruise missile fighter, if na papa ergogoat truly yansh her mama, let him try nonsense.
I just don't want a Christmas without turkey.

I just don't get the jubilation coming from some quarters when they claim Putin is just a noise maker or hasn't lived up to his billing as a strong man!

Do these people desire that Putin respond with a rushed and misguided military response? Towards what end? So because Putin hasn't taken the arrogant route of retaliating and bringing the world to the brink of another world war, makes him a coward? Lol!

Putin will avenge the shooting down of that aircraft through other means one of which it the concentration of resources around that Jarbulus border crossing and the intense pounding of ANYTHING of threat that crosses into Syria or out of Syria such as Erdogan's illicit oil convoys. This will surely drain ISIS and their ability to wage war and also frustrate Erdogan. So tell me if that isn't a winning strategy? Erdogan is just mad that he isn't getting the safe zone he desires and that his illicit family business is being blown to smithereens.

It is absolutely understandable how that SU was easily shot down. It is a bomber and is incapable of a dogfight. It was also back in Syrian airspace with the assumption that nothing from either the ground or air posed a threat to it. Hence the "stab in the back" phrase Putin used cos Russia never imagined that a supposed ally will do something so insidious. As a matter of fact, since no one could have imagined Turkey would do such a thing, initial reports suggested the SU was brought down with a SAM!

Meanwhile, should Erdogan be foo.lish enough once again to fly his jets into Syrian airspace, Russia - mark my words- will shoot down any erring jet and Heaven won't fall! As much as Russia wants to avoid a confrontation with NATO, so does NATO members want to avoid one with Russia. The body language from the likes of France and Germany suggests so. Erdogan will be sorely mistaken if he thinks NATO will come to his aid.

OAUTemitayo:
The bomber jets were not initially being protected by fighter jets because Russia considers your human eating rebels as a rag tag set of murderers without air force and did not believe that your Muslim brotherhood and islamist he-goat erdogoat can order such an attack on them.
Now they have started guiding each bombing mission with SU34 multirole fighter jets, S400 and Moskva guided cruise missile fighter, if na papa ergogoat truly yansh her mama, let him try nonsense.
I just don't want a Christmas without turkey.

Exactly! Russia thought they had an ally in Turkey. Now the gloves are off!

menix:
Every man with his own Opinion..

The truth be told, Turkey is no match for Russia. Russia is going to systematically deal with turkey, watch what happened a day after the downed jet, the rebel positions that had turkey backing were thoroughly pounded by russia.

Yes Turkey is a NATO member but when the chips are down you will know that the likes of other NATO members will avoid a confrontation with Russia.

Turkey president has scheduled to visit moscow nxt week inorder to avoid what is coming cous Russia is certainly going to frustrate Turkey nd Saudi Arabia interest in Syria.

Russian jets will certainly repeat the root cause of the problem in weeks to come when their air defense system is set..

NATO is avoiding a confrontation with Russia?
Dude you are just a Putin Fanatic who is blinded by his own wishes.
Turkey made a clear statement to Russia by downing that Jet, and that statement is " Putin you can't do anything. Stay in your lane"
NATO has said it is closely monitoring the situation. Erdogen and Putin are meeting at a summit, Erdogen is not visiting Putin don't be deceived.
The very worst Russia can do is to launch air strikes against Turkish backed rebel groups and mark my word, Russia will not enter Turkish airspace again.

NairaMinted:


Exactly! Russia thought they had an ally in Turkey. Now the gloves are off!

Turkey and Russia allies?
Are you drunk or you just found the internet.
Lmaoooo

NairaMinted:
I just don't get the jubilation coming from some quarters when they claim Putin is just a noise maker or hasn't lived up to his billing as a strong man!

Do these people desire that Putin respond with a rushed and misguided military response? Towards what end? So because Putin hasn't taken the arrogant route of retaliating and bringing the world to the brink of another world war, makes him a coward? Lol!

Putin will avenge the shooting down of that aircraft through other means one of which it the concentration of resources around that Jarbulus border crossing and the intense pounding of ANYTHING of threat that crosses into Syria or out of Syria such as Erdogan's illicit oil convoys. This will surely drain ISIS and their ability to wage war and also frustrate Erdogan. So tell me if that isn't a winning strategy? Erdogan is just mad that he isn't getting the safe zone he desires and that his illicit family business is being blown to smithereens.

It is absolutely understandable how that SU was easily shot down. It is a bomber and is incapable of a dogfight. It was also back in Syrian airspace with the assumption that nothing from either the ground or air posed a threat to it. Hence the "stab in the back" phrase Putin used cos Russia never imagined that a supposed ally will do something so insidious. As a matter of fact, since no one could have imagined Turkey would do such a thing, initial reports suggested the SU was brought down with a SAM!

Meanwhile, should Erdogan be foo.lish enough once again to fly his jets into Syrian airspace, Russia - mark my words- will shoot down any erring jet and Heaven won't fall! As much as Russia wants to avoid a confrontation with NATO, so does NATO members want to avoid one with Russia. The body language from the likes of France and Germany suggests so. Erdogan will be sorely mistaken if he thinks NATO will come to his aid.

Thank you very much,how will a sane person expect a misguided military response to an issue as sensitive as this,where was NATO when Russia annexed cremia from Ukraine?

Some people should just stick to national/local politics,or better still regional politics.
Foreign politics is not Nigerian politics.

Brugge:
@op I am not sure you actually understand the state of things between Russia and Turkey. It also seems just like the west you are underestimating Putin. Do you know the military implication of Russia moving S-400 to Syria? And do you know what Russia cutting off military communication with Turkey on their activities in Syria means? Do you also know the impact of 4million tourist annual on an economy? Or the impact of denying Turkish imports from being taken into Russia and been left stranded in Russian border of flemsy excuses, will do to the moral of Turkish business men? Do you also know that Russian is now in a better position to harm the Kurdish rebel and let them carry out the dirty work in Turkey? Do you also know that even the whole of Europe with their NATO backed US dont go to bed with both eyes as long as Putin still breathes? If only you could stop feeding on Western propangada you will know that Turkey as no chance when it comes to Russia.

Please do your research well
Russia will loose and not turkey

Do you know that turkey spends over $240billion yearly on Import , and that 10.4% of their import are from Russia.

It means that Russia will loose over $24billion in revenues from their export to turkey yearly

check this link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Turkey?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1446141232 You will see how much turkey spends on Import goods and you will see that Russia is turkey's highest import country.

Russia is about to loose over $24billion from Turkey

Frankiss44:


So which propaganda are you feeding on, Northern propaganda I guess? Lol at the whole of Europe does not go to bed with both eyes as long as Putin still breathes.. These are the kind of lines I hate to hear. You keep blabbing that turkey has no chance when it comes to Russia yet the same Russian ain't doing more than economic sanctions... Do you think Russia would have settled for sanctions only if Turkey isn't a NATO Country? The fact that Putin couldn't do shit right now is because he secretly dreads NATO and what it stands for.. That motto an injury to one is an injury to all is no joke my brother.. And let this sink into your head, the Russian economy is falling apart right now because of sanctions placed on them by the US and the UN. It's just a matter of time before the citizens will come out to protest against this war in Syria so they alone can't keep Assad in power not to talk of sponsoring another war in Turkey. Nato was just waiting for Russia to make mistake and credit to the coward Putin, he didn't fall for it. The S-400 that has been moved to Syria is just part of the noise, Putin enjoys flexing his muscles but he cannot do more than a dead rat. Turkey doesn't need communication with Russia on their activities in Syria, the communication wasn't there in the first place.. Ankara will get files forwarded from Washington of details of Russia activities in Syria so it doesn't make any difference... But expect even worst reaction from Turkey again should Russia violate her airspace again.
You guys are giving a noise maker too much attention... What has he even done to warrant this respect? If only a Republican was the president of the United States, you guys would have seen who Putin truly is... I blame all these respect on the weakling Obama

I don't think this guy knows what he is saying.
Does he even know that Turkey has banned his airforce from flying close to Syria?
http://m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151127/1030840917/turkish-aviation-syria-su-24.html

DukeNija:


NATO is avoiding a confrontation with Russia?
Dude you are just a Putin Fanatic who is blinded by his own wishes.
Turkey made a clear statement to Russia by downing that Jet, and that statement is " Putin you can't do anything. Stay in your lane"
NATO has said it is closely monitoring the situation. Erdogen and Putin are meeting at a summit, Erdogen is not visiting Putin don't be deceived.
The very worst Russia can do is to launch air strikes against Turkish backed rebel groups and mark my word, Russia will not enter Turkish airspace again.

I see u ve made up ur mind to call any man with different view a Putin fanatic..

But please, tune to ur foreign station to see Erdogen has been the one talking to sooth the nerves of Russia..

The only Nato country that can remember Turkey if Russia decides to pound them is America cous country will respect itself..

France that revoked their article 5 how many European countries have sent their plane to Syria apart from UK doing the American bidding...

menix:



I see u ve made up ur mind to call any man with different view a Putin fanatic..

But please, tune to ur foreign station to see Erdogen has been the one talking to sooth the nerves of Russia..

The only Nato country that can remember Turkey if Russia decides to pound them is America cous country will respect itself..

France that revoked their article 5 how many European countries have sent their plane to Syria apart from UK doing the American bidding...

Putin will never, I mean never ever be so stupid to try to pound or even enter Turkish airspace. Mark my words
Putin is going to try other methods to respond, even Lavrov made that very clear. There will be no military action. You think NATO is a joke right? Lmaoo

slydog:


With what Putin did in Ukraine, this is a NATO set up. They certainly won't fight Putin in Europe but will fight him in d middle east

Yeah... And the Russians ain't foolish.. They know this is a trap.. Putin even tagged it as a "planned provocation"

DukeNija:


Putin will never, I mean never ever be so stupid to try to pound or even enter Turkish airspace. Mark my words
Putin is going to try other methods to respond, even Lavrov made that very clear. There will be no military action. You think NATO is a joke right? Lmaoo

ANKARA (Sputnik) – Turkey has suspended its Air Force flights over Syria in the international coalition campaign in the fight against the Islamic State after the downing of the Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber, Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper reported Friday, citing diplomatic sources.
On Tuesday, a Turkish Air Force F-16 downed the Russian bomber 4 kilometers from the Turkish border. Both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command confirmed that the Su-24 never crossed into Turkish airspace and was shot down over Syrian territory, citing precise objective control data.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists."
One of the two Su-24 pilots was killed by fire from the ground after ejecting from the plane. The second pilot was rescued in a 12-hour-long operation.
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DukeNija:


Putin will never, I mean never ever be so stupid to try to pound or even enter Turkish airspace. Mark my words
Putin is going to try other methods to respond, even Lavrov made that very clear. There will be no military action. You think NATO is a joke right? Lmaoo

My brother I tire for this people... Even as of yesterday the Turkish president said the only country that needed to apologise was Russia for entering Turkish airspace.. And that if faced with the same scenario again, they will respond the same way they did... And this dude us telling us that turkey is begging for peace

iblawi:

ANKARA (Sputnik) – Turkey has suspended its Air Force flights over Syria in the international coalition campaign in the fight against the Islamic State after the downing of the Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber, Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper reported Friday, citing diplomatic sources.
On Tuesday, a Turkish Air Force F-16 downed the Russian bomber 4 kilometers from the Turkish border. Both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command confirmed that the Su-24 never crossed into Turkish airspace and was shot down over Syrian territory, citing precise objective control data.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists."
One of the two Su-24 pilots was killed by fire from the ground after ejecting from the plane. The second pilot was rescued in a 12-hour-long operation.
Share this story

Share which story? That is Turkey minding her own business by staying out of Syria.

truelovecom:



Please do your research well
Russia will loose and not turkey

Do you know that turkey spends over $240billion yearly on Import , and that 10.4% of their import are from Russia.

It means that Russia will loose over $24billion in revenues from their export to turkey yearly

check this link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Turkey?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1446141232 You will see how much turkey spends on Import goods and you will see that Russia is turkey's highest import country.

Russia is about to loose over $24billion from Turkey

Apart from that this very few Turkish tourist go into Russia but about 4 million Russians go into turkey annually for vacation and this political tension between both countries won't stop them.. Out of pride, Putin is killing his people economically... It's just a matter of time before the protest will start

DukeNija:


Share which story? That is Turkey minding her own business by staying out of Syria.

Exactly... And it won't stop them from shooting any Russian flight that flies 1 metre into the Turkish airspace

DukeNija:


Turkey and Russia allies?
Are you drunk or you just found the internet.
Lmaoooo

Lol.. My brother I weak.. The word "allies" probably has a new definition now

FastShipping:
Putin is another Ronda Rousey. Putin gra gra is only for show. Russia has been tested and failed. If he dares to try the US, he won't find it funny.

Mehn! The way HH, the preacher's daughter take finish RR still dey vibrate...

OAUTemitayo:
The bomber jets were not initially being protected by fighter jets because Russia considers your human eating rebels as a rag tag set of murderers without air force and did not believe that your Muslim brotherhood and islamist he-goat erdogoat can order such an attack on them.
Now they have started guiding each bombing mission with SU34 multirole fighter jets, S400 and Moskva guided cruise missile fighter, if na papa ergogoat truly yansh her mama, let him try nonsense.
I just don't want a Christmas without turkey.

LOL @ these Russian troll,

So the Russians never knew those Rag tag rebels can take down a bomber with low tech weapons.

These Russians are actually forgetting their Afghanistan failure against the CIA armed Talibans.

Forget about all those S400, SU fighters bla bla, well trained CIA or MOSSAD agents will sabotage them with low tech weapon.

This is the second time A Russian aircraft will be down in the middle-east, yet you guy are not getting the message.

OBAGADAFFI:


LOL @ these Russian troll,

So the Russians never knew those Rag tag rebels can take down a bomber with low tech weapons.

These Russians are actually forgetting their Afghanistan failure against the CIA armed Talibans.

Forget about all those S400, SU fighters bla bla, well trained CIA or MOSSAD agents will sabotage them with low tech weapon.

This is the second time A Russian aircraft will be down in the middle-east, yet you guy are not getting the message.

Sabotage them? But fight it difficult to sabotage Taliban? BTW, where was the first Russian shot down in the middle east?
I know you will mention Egypt, majority of you Isis supporters have next to nothing geographical knowledge.

OAUTemitayo:
Sabotage them? But fight it difficult to sabotage Taliban? BTW, where was the first Russian shot down in the middle east?
I know you will mention Egypt, majority of you Isis supporters have next to nothing geographical knowledge.

Communicate clearly so we can enjoy the argument.


Egypt is a meddle east country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle_East_countries_by_population

http://www.countryaah.com/Middle_East.html

RickRichards:
Lol...seriously? Please leave foreign affairs to those who know. The man has left his country badly exposed, and you're here talking trash. He has given Russia a free-pass to do as they please in Syria. Not only will Russia keep Assad in power, they'll also help make the Kurdistan Republic a reality. Even Turkey's Nato allies are suspicious of them now. And without Nato, Turkey is nothing. You're not seeing things for what they are. You just wait and see...lol
And if you're talking about War, pound-for-pound, Russia will wipe Turkey off the face of the earth. You don't know anything.

You have a point, if only Russia has the means to support Kurdistan rebels pkk