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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:39pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
I give up on these Chelsea Fans. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:39pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: Gerrard had no position because he lacked positional discipline How can a player who had no real position be a better midifielder than one of the best Central midfielders in the EPL history 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:45pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
raumdeuter: It's easy to say he lacked positional discipline when he spent most of his 17 years at Liverpool paired with rubbish in midfield. When he was paired with Macsherano and Xabi Alonso they finished 2nd in the league only 4 points off first. You do not get voted 3rd best player in the world, and make several UEFA teams of the Year if you lack positional discipline. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 5:57pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: Nobody said Gerard wasn't a good player. Comparing "Captain" Fantastic to "Field Marshal" Paul Scholes is the ish here. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:58pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Dadehmola: Dude Gerrard was once voted the 3rd best player in the world. Come back when Scholes is recognised at global level for his achievements. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:00pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Dadehmola When raumdeuter compared Boateng to John Terry, you were one of the first to shoot him down on the basis of individual honours... Please shoot me down |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: He had Hamman Alonso Mascherano etc in midfield. Isnt it ironic that on Liverpools glorious night they started with Gerrard in central midfield and conceded 3 goals in 45mins, They took Gerrard away from midfield and came back In the poor gif I was able to get below. That was Milan's 3rd goal Look at it and guess what Gerrard was doing After attempting a hollywood pass that got easily intercepted, and 2 seconds later got easily turned by Kaka before he gave the assist to Crespo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:17pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: Michael Owen was once voted best player in Europe. Henry, Raul, Nistelrooy all who played in his generation never did |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:24pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Trying to pick out one moment from a career spanning 17 years is quite foolish. Facts are facts. Goals Gerrard scored more. Assists Gerrard copped more Clean Sheets\Clearances\Blocks in the League Gerrard had more Big Game Moments Gerrard definitely had more Individual honours Gerrard had more So what does Scholes have individually over Gerrard? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: That was the biggest moment in his entire career as a midfielder and he almost cost his team until he was shoved away from midfield to allow sensible players perform Goals no brainer Gerrard was the anointed set piece taker. How many penalties did he take? Assists? Care to remove the assists from Dead balls? Individual honour like Michael Owen had over Raul, Mistelrooy and Henry 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:35pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
raumdeuter: We should remove deadballs because? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 6:51pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
timbros:@the bolded, where did you get this?? Easy with the hype abeg |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:54pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Vardy the history maker!!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 6:56pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Mourinho will be like....Roman, get me Vardy sharply 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 6:59pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Vardy Don DId It 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dadehmola: 6:59pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: Apples and oranges.. Boateng never made any "executive" TOTY list like FIFPro, neither has he ever been heralded as the greatest defender in the world so I fail to get the comparison. Like I said earlier, Gerrard was a top player. Comparing him to Scholes is the issue here. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tval(m): 7:06pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Dhelake:How far? I dey flog you for FPL. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:07pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tval(m): 7:09pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist:I dey observe from my end. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 7:14pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Tval: Lol, na you be Phobia?? No worry, i fit still win you oo Everybody just dey bang me anyhow |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tval(m): 7:15pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Dhelake:Yes.. na me. I don chop this 3 points already. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:20pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:21pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Nihilist: I give up on the argument. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 7:23pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Hmmm... This Vardy record will take a VERY long time to break. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 7:27pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
timbros: 19/28 in a season for chelsea Bruuuhh.... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 7:59pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Just imagine if We had gotten Rooney that season Haters would have said Chelsea ruined his career 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 12:26am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Mata was a good player for us but certainly not a Chelsea great. One will be making a colossal mistake by including the Spaniard in our team of all time greats. Truth is you need to look beyond stats when drawing up a list of greats, figures don't usually explain to you who was doing a yeoman job. Malouda finished the 09/10 season - his debute season, with an impressive 15 goals and 15 assists. He helped us land a major domestic double. He then followed that up the next season with 13 EPL goals, finishing the campaign as our top scorer in the league. Statistically, Florent Malouda is a great at Chelsea. But then, that'll be backward thinking because realistically Malouda lacked legendary moments, consistent standard overall play and longevity. Which happens to be the case with Mata. Another key thing greats do is to be influential in winning a major title not won in many years or for the first time. I can bet my testicles that Lampard, Cech, Drogba, Ashley Cole and freaking Ramires were more influential than Mata in our winning the 2012 UCL. All Mata offered us were good stats, with no legendary moments and a single-handedly won major title. He's in the same category with Malouda as far Chelsea is concerned, good player but not a legend. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 12:46am On Nov 29, 2015 |
@griffon he was well on his way to becoming one if he was never sold. You need longevity to reach legend status. Honestly the way you guys are trying to downplay his achievement is strange its not like you sold him for small money. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 12:59am On Nov 29, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: Except that he never became one. Which achievement really? I think Im only downplaying his stats. Replace Mata with Dele Alli in our squad of 2012-13 and we would have still done that European back-to-back sh1t. Yeye Torres wey score in that UCL semi-final and Europa league final neffa claim legendary status, Mata wan yarn 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 1:18am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Griffon:You people voted him twice as your player of the year in the 3 or 4 years he spent with you. Except european competition wasn't taking into consideration for that award,I don't see why he could've been that replaceable. You all sound like a jilted lover but na una break the relationship. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 4:09am On Nov 29, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: Dont You get it No one is claiming Your Mata is not a Good player, But he doesn't have the right to sit on the bench when Chelsea all time squad is mentioned. We broke the relationship of Cech and Lampard with Chelsea, and we still give them the acknowledgement of their performances when due. Broken Love does not determine your status with a Club. Cech and Lampard are Chelsea Legend. Mata? Far from it. And Please don't forget to add Nani and Anderson in your United all time squad. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 6:23am On Nov 29, 2015 |
Bimffo:Read my earlier comment I never said he was one Those two na old maids(Cech and lampard) not a new wife like Mata. Giving how mata started for CFC he would eventually earn his place among those two and their peers. 1 Like |
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