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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:57am On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:

Yes because I don't have a ready CAUSE for every dream I have. I was holding the snake in the dream the way professional snake handlers hold them and I can tell you I have never held a snake in my life.

You can say it is a clever guess.

Sometimes back I wanted to change my iPad's wallpaper and I was disappointed I could not get a decent snake snap nowhere. I settled on this but I later got bored. It looks artificial and more like a harmless caterpillar. I wanted a fierce one baring fangs out

Maybe I was wrong because seeing snakes every time - NatGeo wild , iPad's wallpaper , even having the desire to have a fierce snake as a wallpaper - could have caused the dream . But I can interpret it as you overcoming or eluding your worst fears :

I was holding a very poisonous brownish snake by the head and I recall showing others how huge its fangs were. I knew if it bit me, I was dead so I was a bit nervous. I squeezed harder and it bare out its fangs. Then it spew some red blood like venom. Part of it spilt on my right knee. I continued squeezing its head so hard till I felt the bones crushing. I then threw it out of the window.

Genesis 3 : 14- 15

14 . The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;

15. And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 11:02am On Nov 29, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Maybe I was wrong because seeing snakes every time - NatGeo wild , iPad's wallpaper , even having the desire to have a fierce snake as a wallpaper - could have caused the dream . But I can interpret it as you overcoming or eluding your worst fears :

I was holding a very poisonous brownish snake by the head and I recall showing others how huge its fangs were. I knew if it bit me, I was dead so I was a bit nervous. I squeezed harder and it bare out its fangs. Then it spew some red blood like venom. Part of it spilt on my right knee. I continued squeezing its head so hard till I felt the bones crushing. I then threw it out of the window.

Genesis 3 : 14- 15

14 . The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;

15. And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
You are a wise man. I'd say I fear snakes and insects generally

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by mayorall(m): 1:46pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:
muafrika,
About he bible being a 'collection of experiences/stories' I hope you realize Christians believe it is inspired and that is what set scriptures apart from Jewish Wars by Josephus for instance. This is why any story it tale however detailed and fantastic must bow to the scriptures


Something about dreams.
Somebody said of how they head a cooing sound in the dream only to wake up and find a 'demonic bird' cooing and they nearly killed it.

Sleep is a state of semi consciousness and sometimes whatever happens around us as we sleep can affect our dreams. Examples

During my college days we used to have these huge rats in our rooms and one day in he dead if the night one huge rat fell on my bed and was confused trying to escape. Immediately I saw in my dream a hand that was extremely ticklish moving all over my body, I let out a huge scream and woke up my room mate. I also woke up in time to see the rat on my bed.

We once stayed with my bro near some swampy place full of mosquitoes and we had to use mosquito nets. I used to sleep with my tiny stereo speakers near my bed and sometimes the speaker wires would cross over my bed. I used to have crazy dreams of being electrocuted. In the dream I would sleeping on my bed and e speaker wires would turn live and electrocute me. I could not move and I used to scream. I suspected he dreams were caused by the speakers so I moved the wires off my bed. The dreams persisted. Next I suspected the net. The ticklish feeling of r mosquito net on my skin I realized was exactly what I experienced in the dream right before the electrocution. The nightmares stopped abruptly and I have never used a net since. So the touch of the net during sleep triggered the nightmares.

Point is dreams can be triggered by anything detected by our 5 senses during sleep.


The enemy succeeded . You are not meant to dream at this age.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 4:44pm On Nov 29, 2015
zeongeon:
I want to agree with you that there was no preadamic era too...and i lets reason together.as the book of genesis 1:2 says the earth was without form and void. if the earth had no form and void where then was then did the pre adamic era exist...The dinosaurs went extinct with the flood. You may wonder why the dinosaurs and man lived so long before the flood and was much bigger and stronger this was as a result of the oxygen level as at that time before the flood after the flood oxygen level dropped and the dinosaurs couldn't cope..even though some made it through that era and are still alive even too this day as man has discovered all the animals living here on earth.. example the people of Congo a village to be precise talked about a dinosaur that stays in the village and in its waters and its called mokuliembebe this animal the villagers describes have a long neck and all of its features resembling that of a dinosaur..you can research on it.

Even some pple in Indonesia lay claim of seeing a dinosaur looking bird all these accounts faults the theory of evolution as evolution makes us believe that present day animals evolved from the dinosaurs.

As for satan, Satan started nursing the idea of man worshipping him when God created man, he was so envious about man..do you know Satan was in the garden too and fell when man fell ezekiel 28:13-16..remember God created everything and all was good Gen 1:31 meaning nothing "bad" must have been in the garden
pre adamic age existed btw verse 1 nd 2 of Genesis chapter 1. Verse 1 signifies perfection, verse 2 signifies destruction and verse 3 downwards signifies restoration. How else will you explain d fall of satan nd 1/3 of angels as stated in the scripture. We know that Satan was d serpent dat tempted adam nd eve dat means He had already fallen as at dis time. Take note that the only two times d word created appeared in dis chapter was in verse 1 with regards d creation of the heaven and earth and in verse 27 with regards creation of man (adam)

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:58pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
pre adamic age existed btw verse 1 nd 2 of Genesis chapter 1. Verse 1 signifies perfection, verse 2 signifies destruction and verse 3 downwards signifies restoration. How else will you explain d fall of satan nd 1/3 of angels as stated in the scripture. We know that Satan was d serpent dat tempted adam nd eve dat means He had already fallen as at dis time. Take note that the only two times d word created appeared in dis chapter was in verse 1 with regards d creation of the heaven and earth and in verse 27 with regards creation of man (adam)

Big fat lie known as the Gap theory that inserts billions of years between verse 1 and 2

Educate yourself here;
https://www.icr.org/article/675/314
http://www.icr.org/article/why-gap-theory-wont-work/

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:58pm On Nov 29, 2015
mayorall:



The enemy succeeded . You are not meant to dream at this age.
What do you mean?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 5:10pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
pre adamic age existed btw verse 1 nd 2 of Genesis chapter 1. Verse 1 signifies perfection, verse 2 signifies destruction and verse 3 downwards signifies restoration. How else will you explain d fall of satan nd 1/3 of angels as stated in the scripture. We know that Satan was d serpent dat tempted adam nd eve dat means He had already fallen as at dis time. Take note that the only two times d word created appeared in dis chapter was in verse 1 with regards d creation of the heaven and earth and in verse 27 with regards creation of man (adam)
Satan hadn't fallen by then read ezekiel 28 :13- downwards. Satan was in the garden with Adam and eve. Where please was the preadamic time cause the Bible in Genesis says the earth was with out form and void. Please educate me are you trying to say God destroyed the preadamic time.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 5:24pm On Nov 29, 2015
ccollins:
sure brother, offcourse and that's because apostle paul knew the danger and advantage Satan could have over christians in spiritual realm if they kept up with bitterness, even that could make Satan the accusser of the Christians ask God that they were undeserving of heaven because of that sin..... paul was aware still that demons can be given chance by sins of christians even though they are ignorant and therefore had to talk about it
Jesus said "come onto me all ye that laboured and heavy laden and i will give you rest". If we still get attacks as sinners nd unbelievers do, is Jesus Christ dead in vain? We must know our position in Christ as His church. We now occupy a position of authority. Christ is d Head and we are His body. Wen we cast out a demon in the name of Jesus, Jesus takes over and wateva manifestation that follows isn't wat is important but d fact dat d demons leave.
Concerning reading or listening to testimonies of people who claim to be or av been in d occult, again lets look at the Bible Jesus cast out seven demons from mary who was obviously possessed nd it was glaring to all. Did Jesus make her an authority by asking her about d Demonic realms for His disciples to take note? Instead, she was always sitted at His feet to hear the word of God. Dis is important because devil is a liar and father of lies and so those in d occult are often fed with lies from the pit of hell. An individual dat just underwent deliverance needs to unlearn wat dey know and learn from Christ. David playing of harp only gave king saul temporary deliverance but Jesus Christ brought d power to deliver to d church. Read through out the gospels and see how Jesus dealt with evil spirits. His disciples followed his footsteps and we should also learn from that. Wen we preach the gospel, signs and wonders follow. Wen you spend all ur time knowing and fighting the already defeated devil, wen will you start knowing God.?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 5:27pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:


Big fat lie known as the Gap theory that inserts billions of years between verse 1 and 2

Educate yourself here;
https://www.icr.org/article/675/314
http://www.icr.org/article/why-gap-theory-wont-work/
well you can post wateva u feel i should read in dat link here.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 5:28pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
well you can post wateva u feel i should read in dat link here.
Ignorance is expensive than education my broda oo
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 5:40pm On Nov 29, 2015
zeongeon:
Satan hadn't fallen by then read ezekiel 28 :13- downwards. Satan was in the garden with Adam and eve. Where please was the preadamic time cause the Bible in Genesis says the earth was with out form and void. Please educate me are you trying to say God destroyed the preadamic time.
eden is d garden of authority on earth. R u trying to say God created two captains to run d earth. D devil once reigned on dis earth. Adam was created to replace d devil
The following portion of scripture is a picture of gen1:2 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord , and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:23-27 KJV

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 5:41pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
Jesus said "come onto me all ye that laboured and heavy laden and i will give you rest". If we still get attacks as sinners nd unbelievers do, is Jesus Christ dead in vain? We must know our position in Christ as His church. We now occupy a position of authority. Christ is d Head and we are His body. Wen we cast out a demon in the name of Jesus, Jesus takes over and wateva manifestation that follows isn't wat is important but d fact dat d demons leave.
Concerning reading or listening to testimonies of people who claim to be or av been in d occult, again lets look at the Bible Jesus cast out seven demons from mary who was obviously possessed nd it was glaring to all. Did Jesus make her an authority by asking her about d Demonic realms for His disciples to take note? Instead, she was always sitted at His feet to hear the word of God. Dis is important because devil is a liar and father of lies and so those in d occult are often fed with lies from the pit of hell. An individual dat just underwent deliverance needs to unlearn wat dey know and learn from Christ. David playing of harp only gave king saul temporary deliverance but Jesus Christ brought d power to deliver to d church. Read through out the gospels and see how Jesus dealt with evil spirits. His disciples followed his footsteps and we should also learn from that. Wen we preach the gospel, signs and wonders follow. Wen you spend all ur time knowing and fighting the already defeated devil, wen will you start knowing God.?
was there any place she faltered in her deliverance ministry, did she ever say she could not exercise her authority in Christ Jesus over evil spirits please don't add words or calumny of false rumors on a woman who is pure at heart and only want to worship God. as far as she had biblical backings in her books of her testimony and other many. things she did then we should even take her more seriously. you talk about power in Christ but let's be honest here, how many christians in all these modern churches cast out devils or can really say they fellowship with Holy Spirit as God expects and is in Bible. yet all they do is depend on a man of God and read Bible all day, you have to be spiritually minded and quench not the Spirit, and yes people in deliverance ministry and those who discern highly do see demons so how do you explain this, is it also heresies? Happy Sunday sir
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 5:49pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:

Ignorance is expensive than education my broda oo
i believe d ignorant person here is you dear. So u believe d earth is 6000+ years old? No wonder scientists find it difficult to believe d Bible. I also held on to dat 6000+ belief until recently wen i started coming across biblical proofs dat d world is older than adam. Ok wen was hell created?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 5:53pm On Nov 29, 2015
ccollins:
was there any place she faltered in her deliverance ministry, did she ever say she could not exercise her authority in Christ Jesus over evil spirits please don't add words or calumny of false rumors on a woman who is pure at heart and only want to worship God. as far as she had biblical backings in her books of her testimony and other many. things she did then we should even take her more seriously. you talk about power in Christ but let's be honest here, how many christians in all these modern churches cast out devils or can really say they fellowship with Holy Spirit as God expects and is in Bible. yet all they do is depend on a man of God and read Bible all day, you have to be spiritually minded and quench not the Spirit, and yes people in deliverance ministry and those who discern highly do see demons so how do you explain this, is it also heresies? Happy Sunday sir

He Christian walk is all about balance. You can overdo one good thing and end up good for nothing. A good example is prayer. Nothing wrong with intercession and fasting, but clearly there is something stupid about a lifestyle of prayer 24/7 and nothing else.

There are those who are OBSESSED with the kingdom of darkness and where reality fails them, they imagine things. There is nothing like wisdom in kingdom of darkness. That's academic, the saving knowledge is your position in Christ. The sons of Sceva knew a lot about demons but not Jesus Christ and the result what demons whipped them bad.

Casting demons or manifesting ANY spiritual gift is no measure of your faith or maturity in Christ. I got born again and I spoke in tongues WITHIN 24hrs. In Acts, some believed and prophesied immediately. The best measure of your faith or maturity is the Fruit of the Spirit.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 5:55pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
i believe d ignorant person here is you dear. So u believe d earth is 6000+ years old? No wonder scientists find it difficult to believe d Bible. I also held on to dat 6000+ belief until recently wen i started coming across biblical proofs dat d world is older than adam. Ok wen was hell created?

Give me scriptural proof of an old earth and I will buy it. All 'scientific' evidence I can deal with with my eyes wide shut. But I will request you to start a new thread and invite me. Otherwise you are derailing this thread

To your question.
We are not told WHEN hell was created but we are told it was prepared for Satan and his angels so I'd say it was prepared once they rebelled.

Next cool
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by mayorall(m): 5:58pm On Nov 29, 2015
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 6:00pm On Nov 29, 2015
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 6:02pm On Nov 29, 2015
ccollins:
was there any place she faltered in her deliverance ministry, did she ever say she could not exercise her authority in Christ Jesus over evil spirits please don't add words or calumny of false rumors on a woman who is pure at heart and only want to worship God. as far as she had biblical backings in her books of her testimony and other many. things she did then we should even take her more seriously. you talk about power in Christ but let's be honest here, how many christians in all these modern churches cast out devils or can really say they fellowship with Holy Spirit as God expects and is in Bible. yet all they do is depend on a man of God and read Bible all day, you have to be spiritually minded and quench not the Spirit, and yes people in deliverance ministry and those who discern highly do see demons so how do you explain this, is it also heresies? Happy Sunday sir
d gift of discernment of spirits enables you to see spirits (angels included) My fiancee has dis gift and i had to teach her from scriptures dat ghosts are demons disguised to deceive. I am not against d gifts of. the Spirit but emphasis on demons
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 6:09pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:


Give me scriptural proof of an old earth and I will buy it. All 'scientific' evidence I can deal with with my eyes wide shut. But I will request you to start a new thread and invite me. Otherwise you are derailing this thread

To your question.
We are not told WHEN hell was created but we are told it was prepared for Satan and his angels so I'd say it was prepared once they rebelled.

Next cool
lol. I guess i will get my notes together and create a thread on dat someday but d bottomline is dat i believe d origin of demons is from dat time and i also believe that demons possessed the body of nephilims. I won't derail the thread further wink
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 6:17pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
lol. I guess i will get my notes together and create a thread on dat someday but d bottomline is dat i believe d origin of demons is from dat time and i also believe that demons possessed the body of nephilims. I won't derail the thread further wink

Good move. Invite me once you are ready. As for me, I was born ready cool

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:21pm On Nov 29, 2015
oyeludef:
d gift of discernment of spirits enables you to see spirits (angels included) My fiancee has dis gift and i had to teach her from scriptures dat ghosts are demons disguised to deceive. I am not against d gifts of. the Spirit but emphasis on demons
thank you sir but she clearly showed in her book it was testimony of woman held captive in witchcraft.. didn't she talk about Jesus and Angels too. and there were actually alot of satanic rituals in. indiana when she stayed there as a doctor. was she also wrong to have exposed the evils done in state where she lived and how those satanist loathed Christians in her state and killed them secretly. alot of evil things happen you are ignorant but then you exercise your power in Christ. Jesus when you are not. do they write physically on a person if he is evil or not? No. how did apostle Paul know about bar-Jesus if he didn't see it spiritually Acts 13:6-17. thanks for all and God bless you all

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 6:33pm On Nov 29, 2015
Anas09:

@Oyeledef.

Alongside Jesus Christ and Apst Paul, I believe in the LITERAL Adam. And I don't have a problem with Billions or Millions of Yrs old Earth. Although, the ungodly Scientist may want to present some materials that are superfluous, with the aim to mislead. I think the yrs they put to those Mamoths and Dinosaurs fosils are exaggerated. That said.

I asked a question. When God created the Earth, time and seasons, which were propelled by day and night, was they dead in the animal kingdom? Or were animals like man who wasn't aging until the Fall?.
The reason for this question is this. The years or how Old the Earth is according to the records gotten from the Bible, follows events starting from how long Adam lived down to you and I. But from Creation to wen Adam fell, we don't ve any record of time.
Can it be safe to say, the World had endured for millions of yrs, the animals have lived long, died and some got extinct before Adam fell?

I agree with you on the scientific values being exaggerated but on the number of years lived by Adam Genesis 5vs5 state as follow:

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

the story of dinosaur might just be those that died during the Noah's era since those animals were giant too

But one could use the Genealogy of Abraham in Gen 11 and that of Jesus in Math 1 to form argument, provided that the one get a good account from Isaac to Jacob to Israelite journey to Canan, the years of the judges as well
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by mayorall(m): 6:46pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:

What do you mean?



He had instigated fears in you. Made you believe in dreams as a young man. This is against the new covenant in this era of Holy spirit. check this

Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 6:53pm On Nov 29, 2015
ccollins:
thank you sir but she clearly showed in her book it was testimony of woman held captive in witchcraft.. didn't she talk about Jesus and Angels too. and there were actually alot of satanic rituals in. indiana when she stayed there as a doctor. was she also wrong to have exposed the evils done in state where she lived and how those satanist loathed Christians in her state and killed them secretly. alot of evil things happen you are ignorant but then you exercise your power in Christ. Jesus when you are not. do they write physically on a person if he is evil or not? No. how did apostle Paul know about bar-Jesus if he didn't see it spiritually Acts 13:6-17. thanks for all and God bless you all
there is something I appreciate about Christianity nd dat is d fact that no one can claim to know it all and even paul an apostle for da matter said "we know in part"
Now, we must know where d right source of knowledge should be from. D Holy Spirit in us is a person and not a tool. Christ gave us the Holy Spirit to b our help. I remember d during my secondary school days, I used to be oppressed by demons at night and even during my early days in the University. I went for a church program in my campus fellowship and I got opportunity to visit prayer warrior. I narrated what I had been facing, and to my amazement, a sister among d 4 ppl dat were praying for me told me what happened to me wen i was 6months old as d Holy Spirit was telling her everything. A woman told my mum to shave my hair and she collected it from her. She obviously used a spell on her. D evil woman took d hair to a diety she was worshipping and said it should be tormenting me truout my life. D yoke got broken dat day by anointing. Wen i went home i asked my mum and she said she couldn't remember but she said as she sat on her bed at night trying to remember the incidence, suddenly it was as if something came out of her and she remembered everything that happened. You see i got delivered.
The Holy Spirit is a person so if he gives you a gift, you should use it in subjection to him. Now imagine those people who prayed for me coming later to ask me how demons look like nd all dat. Eventually I joined the prayer warrior and I must tell you i saw things too. One day, during deliverance bird flew out of someone physically. Imagine we going to dat person to tell us about the kingdom of darkness? Isn't it crazy? The Holy Spirit will never lead us contrary to His word do we need to grow in His word and in our fellowship with Him.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:18pm On Nov 29, 2015
mayorall:




He had instigated fears in you. Made you believe in dreams as a young man. This is against the new covenant in this era of Holy spirit. check this

Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:

You are yet to make your point
Is it that God does not give dreams to young men or what?

Throwing around scriptures without explanation is not helpful ooo

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 7:24pm On Nov 29, 2015
Anas09:
angry angry I wish I understand what @Sarassin is saying. You lost me there.
You sound like a friend here, @4C2215131 are we on the same page here?
I have a feeling you guys are into other stuff other than Christ (?)

I have that impression but i just decide quiet and let the be with their stuff
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by mayorall(m): 7:39pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:


You are yet to make your point
Is it that God does not give dreams to young men or what?

Throwing around scriptures without explanation is not helpful ooo



You want me to explain the verse right?.

Yes. After the manifestation of the Holy spirit, young men is only permitted to see visions while hold men dreams.


Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:53pm On Nov 29, 2015
mayorall:




You want me to explain the verse right?.

Yes. After the manifestation of the Holy spirit, young men is only permitted to see visions while hold men dreams.


Acts 2vs17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young
men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream
dreams:

The verse says only young and old men. Do women dream or have visions?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by postmann: 8:30pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:

You are really shallow.
Long before Rebecca Brown wrote her books, Hal Lindsay had done one in the 70s Satan is alive and well. Before him Derek Prince had extensively preached on spiritual warfare. In short, Rebecca Brown contributed ZERO but she succeeded in spreading lies and distorting the Word of Truth. And MANY before her excelled in scripturally dissecting see things.

Instead of being concerned with the heresies of Rebecca Brown, you willfully ignore those. This is not wisdom but utter foolishness. This is why some Pentecostals sleep with harlots,shoot drugs,steal or waste church money, but because they can capture an audience, you focus on their 'good'.

You should be very worried when bold lies captivate men's imagination.
-Islam was born out of one man subjective experiences
-Joseph Smith of Mormons wrote extensively of his visions and the cult of LDS was born.
-Ellen White wrote of her fantastic visions and SDA cult was born.

Can you see a pattern here? Whenever SUBJECTIVE experiences are used to derive doctrine and beliefs, men go astray.

My brother, I have read Rebecca Brown's UNBROKEN CURSES and one other of her book that talked about the deliverance of a top witch.
For those who are called into deliverance ministry and who are blessed with discernment and wisdom, they find her book very helpful and insightful.
Myself inclusive. There are a lot of things about demonic activities that are unknown to the average Christian. The HOLY SPIRIT has been teaching new things since HE was sent down to earth with the truth.

Now supposing Rebecca Brown was a pack of fraud, a Christian whose utterances are ordered by the HOLY SPIRIT, whose life is a manifestation of the fruits of the HOLY SPIRIT, is very slow to call a fellow brother out or denounce their works. A SPIRIT filled Christian takes a different approach from outright condemnation.
You might find yourself on the wrong side of GOD's judgement.
If you feel that she's a pack of lies, then gently ask any Christian WHO SEEK YOUR OPINION ON THE MATTER to be careful and pray for GOD's guidance.

But please be careful how you call other Christians out with their works. The devil thrives with such practices. He loves it.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 8:36pm On Nov 29, 2015
postmann:


My brother, I have read Rebecca Brown's UNBROKEN CURSES and one other of her book that talked about the deliverance of a top witch.
For those who are called into deliverance ministry and who are blessed with discernment and wisdom, they find her book very helpful and insightful.
Myself inclusive. There are a lot of things about demonic activities that are unknown to the average Christian. The HOLY SPIRIT has been teaching new things since HE was sent down to earth with the truth.

Now supposing Rebecca Brown was a pack of fraud, a Christian whose utterances are ordered by the HOLY SPIRIT, whose life is a manifestation of the fruits of the HOLY SPIRIT, is very slow to call a fellow brother out or denounce their works. A SPIRIT filled Christian takes a different approach from outright condemnation.
You might find yourself on the wrong side of GOD's judgement.
If you feel that she's a pack of lies, then gently ask any Christian WHO SEEK YOUR OPINION ON THE MATTER to be careful and pray for GOD's guidance.

But please be careful how you call other Christians out with their works. The devil thrives with such practices. He loves it.

1. Can I assume that you don't consider yourself 'average Christian?
2. Can I assume that Holy Spirit has been teaching things OUTSIDE the Holy Scriptures and these are the ones you deem 'new'?
3. On what basis do you judge/discern these 'new' extrabiblical revelations you have been privileged to learn?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by postmann: 9:15pm On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:


1. Can I assume that you don't consider yourself 'average Christian?
2. Can I assume that Holy Spirit has been teaching things OUTSIDE the Holy Scriptures and these are the ones you deem 'new'?
3. On what basis do you judge/discern these 'new' extrabiblical revelations you have been privileged to learn?

my brother,

Your first question has no reply from me

'New things" never denote things outside scriptures. But news things as I meant it, shed more light and further revelations into what scripture has already hinted.
John 16:12 has our SAVIOUR saying there was SO MUCH MORE HE wanted to tell HIS disciples which they couldn't bore then. But that the HOLY SPIRIT will guide them into all truth.

So instead of outrightly condemning another brother's work, kindly direct them to seek the HOLY SPIRIT WHO is available to them.

The SPIRIT of GOD does not thrive in arguments or debates. arguments and debates stem from the spirit of man, influence by Satan to promote self and not GOD.
This is ALL I have to say on this issue.
Thanks.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Horus(m): 9:15pm On Nov 29, 2015

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