postmann:


my brother,

Your first question has no reply from me

'New things" never denote things outside scriptures. But news things as I meant it, shed more light and further revelations into what scripture has already hinted.
John 16:12 has our SAVIOUR saying there was SO MUCH MORE HE wanted to tell HIS disciples which they couldn't bore then. But that the HOLY SPIRIT will guide them into all truth.

So instead of outrightly condemning another brother's work, kindly direct them to seek the HOLY SPIRIT who is available to them.

The SPIRIT of GOD does not thrive in arguments or debates. arguments and debates stem from the spirit of man, influence by Satan to promote self and not GOD.
This is ALL I have to say on this issue.
Thanks.

The NEW things are what you find in the New Testament not stuff outside bro. Recall when Jesus spoke these there was no New Testament.

It is every cultist dream to speak unopposed. Enough said

Folks, remember the final message of Jesus Christ our Lord.. Not from me, from Jesus Himself. So let's remind ourselves to be careful..
Rev chapt 22 vs 10-21

And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is
righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is
holy, let him be holy still.

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work
shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may
enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whoever loveth and maketh a lie.

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is at thirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man
shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away
his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy
city, and from the things which are written in this
book.

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

God bless you all. Have a goodnight rest

If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.


I remember once when I was saying negative things about my former church. These things I was saying, I experienced them, I was there when these things happened so I wasn't lying in anyway.
The church made so many mistakes and treated some members quite unfairly.
Out of anger and hurt, I blurted out telling some people(including the members) what the church had done, how they hurt some of their members and disgrace them publicly. I was never hurt by the church directly, but people i was close to were the victims here and so this hurt me greatly.

I always discouraged people from going to that church and I said negative things about the church.
I never knew my actions were wrong, because to me afterall, the church was wrong & the church is still wrong because it's still happening and many members are leaving.
But the way we see things isn't the way God does.


One night, God came to me in a vision & showed me what my actions was causing that church. He showed me how it was tearing the church apart even more. He let me know I was wrong. Even though the church had made mistakes, I had no authority to castigate the church, thereby discouraging people & spoiling the name of the church (the people of God). He let me know the pastor of that church is actually called by Him, though the pastor has weaknesses as a man, and the church was growing slowly, I was still standing in the wrong position. I was wrong.
God was warning me!

After that revelation.. I never again castigated the church or anyone doing the work of Jesus Christ. Whether the person is fake or not, I leave it to God to judge the person. It is dangerous to insult a Prophet or Prophetess of God or even a Church belonging to God.
I remember how Elisha cursed some children(in the Name of the Lord) and two bears came up and killed 42 of those kids just because the children insulted him saying to him 'Go up, Bald Head'(II Kings 2:23).. If Elisha was wrong, why would God honour his word?

We must be careful how we speak of God's people. Later some people would start looking for the source & solution to their new problem. I pray it isn't so if your repent.

So pls keep the fake or real man/woman of God to yourself & Let God be the judge.

Thank you.. God bless you all!

@zeongeon.
I had this discussion with a friend sometime ago. He insists that, as at wen satan disguised as the serpent and caused man to Fall in Eden, he(satan) had not yet Fallen out with God. because, according to him, its in revelation we see satan being cast down to earth by Michael.
This is exactly what you are saying here.

@Vooks asked you, if you say Satan was ruling in Eden along side Adam, that will invariably mean, there were two Captains in Eden? And the Bible didn't say that.

My questions.
1. If lucifer was in Eden ruling, Who was he reign over at that time. Definitely not fellow angels, and according to you, adam had not been created yet (?)

2. If as at when Lucifer provoked Man to rebel agaisnt God's Instructions, Lucifer was still upright, in right standing with God, why then will he want to beguile man to sin against God?
Why will I want to instigate ur son to turn against you if I don't have an animosity against you?

With regards to Ezekiel 28. Yes, satan was in Eden, but not as Lucifer.
Yes its in Ezekiel we were told who lucifer was before his fall. Lucifer didn't fall in Eden or from Eden. He fell from heaven, he didn't land in Eden when he fell. He only went to Eden to beguile man.

I have a funny theory of why Satan may have beguiled man to sin against God.

Pls join me in my stupidity. I think, Lucifer must have put everything into consideration before the revolution. I mean, his perfection, power of Wisdom, prowess in Music. The kind of Repect and authority he commanded among some of the Angels (I mean, the guy took 2/3 of the Angels population with him). He probably had thought that if he fails to overthrow the Only Potentate, he can as well create his own 'whatever' Earth? But after everything, he found him in this void, full of darkness, without the wherewithal to create shit.
Well, I think, the Other Angels must have accosted him and demanded for what he promised them. I mean, I can't give up my Angelic splendor for the Demon's for nothing.
Here two things will have to play out, and that will depend on what will be the outcome of his clandestine meeting with this unique Creature with his beautiful guilible wife, in their little garden. Doourr.
*rolls eyes*
Well, Satan must have told his Minions, I'll go up to that fair one there and see. If I get them to do the exact thing we did, which got us in this shit, who knows? Yahwey could forgive, if he forgives them, and why not? He shd be able to forgive us too, afterall He is a Merciful God right? then, we'll all go back to heaven, but if not, we'll take over the earth and rule it. I'll make all of you Kings of the Nations of Men. shey I promised you guys that you'all will be gods? Just watch.
* satan walks out with a regal gait towards Eden*

So satan rolled out his Schemes and smoothly presented himself to Eve, who had lived in Eden for God knows how long, and never saw an animal spoke with the human voice.
Man's problem actually started if u ask me, after the Fall. Becos God forgave Man for committing the same sin lucifer committed, (which is infringing on the sovereignty of God), but went further to even Curse the creature whose body satan borrowed. Hmm. For man, the earth was cursed instead of Man. For this stupid woman, God only pronounced a meagre Childbirth Pangs. As if that's not enough, He gave a prophecy that the seed of this same woman will crush his head? Haba.

From that day, since Satan can't reach God, he decide to drag Man, the so beloved of God to the same hell God created for him, by way of spitting God more.
This is my little theory.
So I believe Satan visited Eden only to pull Adam down with him or get restored back to glory.

As to how old the Earth is @Mayoall. I know how old Adam was before he died after he sinned, and I agree with the Bible on the 6000yrs span.
My ish is not how long Adam lived AFTER THE FALL. Am interested in before the FALL
My questions has been, Since Man didn't age untill THE FALL, what about the animals, were they also Ageless? Didn't the animals die?
If the Yrs Adam lived without Time tick tucking against him, couldn't that mean that Millions of Yrs Must have passed and the Mamoths and Dinosaurs Got extinct before the Fall.
I don't believe the Monsters were buried in the flood, because accoding to the scriptures, the clean animals Noah took in seven Pairs each, the unclean (even the Unclean were spared) were taken in by two pairs each.
This is just reasoning.
@Vooks pls help reason with me.

Anas09:
@zeongeon.
I had this discussion with a friend sometime ago. He insists that, as at wen satan disguised as the serpent and caused man to Fall in Eden, he(satan) had not yet Fallen out with God. because, according to him, its in revelation we see satan being cast down to earth by Michael.
This is exactly what you are saying here.

@Vooks asked you, if you say Satan was ruling in Eden along side Adam, that will invariably mean, there were two Captains in Eden? And the Bible didn't say that.

My questions.
1. If lucifer was in Eden ruling, Who was he reign over at that time. Definitely not fellow angels, and according to you, adam had not been created yet (?)

2. If as at when Lucifer provoked Man to rebel agaisnt God's Instructions, Lucifer was still upright, in right standing with God, why then will he want to beguile man to sin against God?
Why will I want to instigate ur son to turn against you if I don't have an animosity against you?

With regards to Ezekiel 28. Yes, satan was in Eden, but not as Lucifer.
Yes its in Ezekiel we were told who lucifer was before his fall. Lucifer didn't fall in Eden or from Eden. He fell from heaven, he didn't land in Eden when he fell. He only went to Eden to beguile man.

I have a funny theory of why Satan may have beguiled man to sin against God.

Pls join me in my stupidity. I think, Lucifer must have put everything into consideration before the revolution. I mean, his perfection, power of Wisdom, prowess in Music. The kind of Repect and authority he commanded among some of the Angels (I mean, the guy took 2/3 of the Angels population with him). He probably had thought that if he fails to overthrow the Only Potentate, he can as well create his own 'whatever' Earth? But after everything, he found him in this void, full of darkness, without the wherewithal to create shit.
Well, I think, the Other Angels must have accosted him and demanded for what he promised them. I mean, I can't give up my Angelic splendor for the Demon's for nothing.
Here two things will have to play out, and that will depend on what will be the outcome of his clandestine meeting with this unique Creature with his beautiful guilible wife, in their little garden. Doourr.
*rolls eyes*
Well, Satan must have told his Minions, I'll go up to that fair one there and see. If I get them to do the exact thing we did, which got us in this shit, who knows? Yahwey could forgive, if he forgives them, and why not? He shd be able to forgive us too, afterall He is a Merciful God right? then, we'll all go back to heaven, but if not, we'll take over the earth and rule it. I'll make all of you Kings of the Nations of Men. shey I promised you guys that you'all will be gods? Just watch.
* satan walks out with a regal gait towards Eden*

So satan rolled out his Schemes and smoothly presented himself to Eve, who had lived in Eden for God knows how long, and never saw an animal spoke with the human voice.
Man's problem actually started if u ask me, after the Fall. Becos God forgave Man for committing the same sin lucifer committed, (which is infringing on the sovereignty of God), but went further to even Curse the creature whose body satan borrowed. Hmm. For man, the earth was cursed instead of Man. For this stupid woman, God only pronounced a meagre Childbirth Pangs. As if that's not enough, He gave a prophecy that the seed of this same woman will crush his head? Haba.

From that day, since Satan can't reach God, he decide to drag Man, the so beloved of God to the same hell God created for him, by way of spitting God more.
This is my little theory.
So I believe Satan visited Eden only to pull Adam down with him or get restored back to glory.

As to how old the Earth is @Mayoall. I know how old Adam was before he died after he sinned, and I agree with the Bible on the 6000yrs span.
My ish is not how long Adam lived AFTER THE FALL. Am interested in before the FALL
My questions has been, Since Man didn't age untill THE FALL, what about the animals, were they also Ageless? Didn't the animals die?
If the Yrs Adam lived without Time tick tucking against him, couldn't that mean that Millions of Yrs Must have passed and the Mamoths and Dinosaurs Got extinct before the Fall.
I don't believe the Monsters were buried in the flood, because accoding to the scriptures, the clean animals Noah took in seven Pairs each, the unclean (even the Unclean were spared) were taken in by two pairs each.
This is just reasoning.
@Vooks pls help reason with me.

I will shortly explain why I believe your reasoning is faulty

There is a clear cut difference btw avoiding error and persecuting a man of God.no where in d scripture did Jesus or His apostles seek for d dark knowlege of a delivered convert. Lets not allow our curiosity make us grieve d Holy Spirit. In dat day some will say didnt we cast out devils in your name? Christ will say i know you not ye workers of iniquity. No one knows the ways of God but the Spirit of God. Even angels learn about God by watching God's dealing with d church(eph3:10). The Holy Spirit has the sole responsibility to guide His church into all truth. I will also advise us to stick with d 66 books of d bible. Angels were so common during d early church days in d book of Acts but nowhere did we see the church socializing wit dem nd asking questions. D Holy Spirit doesnt just enable u speak in tongues He fellowships wit us. How was satan able to deceive 1/3 of angels? Satan's subjects r captives to his will nd so he keeps them dat way by making dem believe lies. These lies r wat witches know and dey need to unlearn it not us learning from dem. Satan is a liar and d father of it. Where the Holy Spirit is there is liberty cos who Christ sets free is free indeed. Stick with the Holy Spirit and His inspired word. Shalom

oyeludef:
There is a clear cut difference btw avoiding error and persecuting a man of God.no where in d scripture did Jesus or His apostles seek for d dark knowlege of a delivered convert. Lets not allow our curiosity make us grieve d Holy Spirit. In dat day some will say didnt we cast out devils in your name? Christ will say i know you not ye workers of iniquity. No one knows the ways of God but the Spirit of God. Even angels learn about God by watching God's dealing with d church(eph3:10). The Holy Spirit has the sole responsibility to guide His church into all truth. I will also advise us to stick with d 66 books of d bible. Angels were so common during d early church days in d book of Acts but nowhere did we see the church socializing wit dem nd asking questions. D Holy Spirit doesnt just enable u speak in tongues He fellowships wit us. How was satan able to deceive 1/3 of angels? Satan's subjects r captives to his will nd so he keeps them dat way by making dem believe lies. These lies r wat witches know and dey need to unlearn it not us learning from dem. Satan is a liar and d father of it. Where the Holy Spirit is there is liberty cos who Christ sets free is free indeed. Stick with the Holy Spirit and His inspired word. Shalom

good point sir but still depends on circumstances, the book; he came to set the captives free was not to learn about dark arts but about testimony of one involved in occultism before and that's the old man.. it's not to say Rebecca and Elaine who was delivered are obsessed about it and go every day preaching about it in churches... I told you people who apostle paul delivered in bible from witchcraft, did they not have a past in it before they are called to repentance by God. I have examined Rebecca brown teachings even apart from her books, she emphasizes on holiness, and uses the Bible alot in her preachings. if she is a fraud as she is mocked, is she supposed to be encouraging Christians to have a fellowship with Holy Spirit and stop meeting her to ask God what he says concerning there life and all sundry. we need to be careful of accusing people, you know appolon in Bible was magnificent in Bible but didn't acknowledge or was ignorant of the power there of which the disciples corrected him that Jesus is Christ. rebecca never compromises on God word if you know her very well and she doesn't preach prosperity sermons like most end- time churches are doing

This thread!!!!!!!!!

oyeludef:
There is a clear cut difference btw avoiding error and persecuting a man of God.no where in d scripture did Jesus or His apostles seek for d dark knowlege of a delivered convert. Lets not allow our curiosity make us grieve d Holy Spirit. In dat day some will say didnt we cast out devils in your name? Christ will say i know you not ye workers of iniquity. No one knows the ways of God but the Spirit of God. Even angels learn about God by watching God's dealing with d church(eph3:10). The Holy Spirit has the sole responsibility to guide His church into all truth. I will also advise us to stick with d 66 books of d bible. Angels were so common during d early church days in d book of Acts but nowhere did we see the church socializing wit dem nd asking questions. D Holy Spirit doesnt just enable u speak in tongues He fellowships wit us. How was satan able to deceive 1/3 of angels? Satan's subjects r captives to his will nd so he keeps them dat way by making dem believe lies. These lies r wat witches know and dey need to unlearn it not us learning from dem. Satan is a liar and d father of it. Where the Holy Spirit is there is liberty cos who Christ sets free is free indeed. Stick with the Holy Spirit and His inspired word. Shalom

You are right sir,
The moment you derive your beliefs outside the scriptures you open yourself up to deception because you have no yardstick.

Rebecca Brown and her husband were caught lying severally. This in itself casts aspersions on their pet claims.

I know human especially Negro curiosity as far as occult and the spiritual realm will never be quenched so these books will always find itchy ears. For these, the scriptures are never enough

When you can quote chunks of occult literature better than scriptures, know you are obsessed

I look at TB Joshua deliverance clips on YouTube and they have high hits whereas the lifesaving nisort is given a wide berth

ccollins:
good point sir but still depends on circumstances, the book; he came to set the captives free was not to learn about dark arts but about testimony of one involved in occultism before and that's the old man.. it's not to say Rebecca and Elaine who was delivered are obsessed about it and go every day preaching about it in churches... I told you people who apostle paul delivered in bible from witchcraft, did they not have a past in it before they are called to repentance by God. I have examined Rebecca brown teachings even apart from her books, she emphasizes on holiness, and uses the Bible alot in her preachings. if she is a fraud as she is mocked, is she supposed to be encouraging Christians to have a fellowship with Holy Spirit and stop meeting her to ask God what he says concerning there life and all sundry. we need to be careful of accusing people, you know appolon in Bible was magnificent in Bible but didn't acknowledge or was ignorant of the power there of which the disciples corrected him that Jesus is Christ. rebecca never compromises on God word if you know her very well and she doesn't preach prosperity sermons like most end- time churches are doing

You are really hurting that your pet teacher Rebeccah lied severally and there is irrefutable evidence which unfortunately you are too scared to look at.

She may not preach prosperity but that does not make her doctrine right. Catholics don't preach prosperity but we know their doctrine fails on OTHER levels.

I was once in your shoes; ready to defend her at all costs till I realized she wrote a lot of sensational garbage full of lies. Christ did not call me to defend deception. The father of lies is Satan

I rejoice in the Lord for fearless brethren who rose above her threats and EXPOSED her lies for all and sundry
http://www.watchthetower.net/brown.html

He who had an ear let him hear what he Spirit is saying

TESTIMONIES FROM POSITIVE CHRISTIANS ON HER BOOK AS FOLLOWS::::::
Laurie Ishii rated a book over 6 years ago He Came to Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown Although I cannot agree with every single thing in this book... I really enjoyed reading it. For one thing - because I have come out of DARKNESS (heroin addict/prostitute) - I have been exposed to the demonic/spiritual warfare to a pretty great degree. I have worked with a woman and some of her family members that have recently come out of YEARS of SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse). I read the Rebecca Brown book years prior to meeting this woman and my husband has never read it. When this woman came to live with us, crazy things began happening... knocking on the door, no one being there when we answered, computer running by itself, changing fonts from microscopic to HUGE... CD, DVD, TV etc. not working whenever we wanted to watch or listen to something like worship... these may sound like minor inconveniences (and they were/are) but they happened so frequently once this woman started living with us that it's too much to be a coincidence. I will not share some of the personal and private things that this woman has had to go through even while she's been here - in spite of finally escaping physically from where she lived (in the same state as Elaine as a matter of fact). She had continued to be tormented emotionally, spiritually and even physically (my husband said that unless he saw it with his own eyes he wouldn't believe it) but the Lord Jesus is so faithful and because she has made Him her LORD and Savior, He is doing amazing things in this woman's life!!! We have been so blessed to see, over and over - Jesus show up and overcome the enemy. Rebecca Brown's book has been so useful and honestly - when she began living with us - I started reading the book again because I felt like every thing in the book was/is what we were/are living on a daily basis. I definitely BELIEVE that much of the experience Rebecca and Elaine experienced was/is REAL - unfortunately the witches astral projecting is real and DOES happen... we have found that when this happens (when we rebuke demons in Jesus' Name and they don't leave - demons may take a bit if they are a principality but eventually, they MUST leave - while human spirits are much more stubborn) we ask Jesus to break their silver cord and sever their head from their body (if they wont repent) and they leave. I also believe that there ARE Satanists who pretend to be good, moral, upstanding people or even more so Christian... so that it will be very difficult for anyone to believe it if they are accused of being involved in the occult. All I can say, is don't write the things in Rebecca's book as too extreme to be true. I think that one of Satan's biggest deceptions is to get people to believe that things like this don't happen. If anyone (like myself) have gone to the depths of hell before Jesus came and pulled you out - you KNOW that given the right circumstance, we humans are capable of ANYTHING; capable of doing the sickest, most vile, demented crimes against other human beings... especially if a person does not have a relationship with Jesus, and even more so, if the person considers Satan their god. Regardless, Jesus is Lord, He is on the throne and "Our brothers conquered him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they did not cling to their lives even in the face of death." Rev.12:11

Thank you bro Charles for this warning. He who has ears, let him HEAR!!!! God has also warned me about talking down on a man of God. The prophet wanted his church members to support his ministry in a controversial way. I left his church and starting telling people about this prophet's act. Years later, God reminded me of my actions. He saw it as pride and warned me to desist from such acts unless I want to experience his wrath. Since then, I watch what I saw about any man/woman of God. Let God be their judge.

CharlyG1:
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.


I remember once when I was saying negative things about my former church. These things I was saying, I experienced them, I was there when these things happened so I wasn't lying in anyway.
The church made so many mistakes and treated some members quite unfairly.
Out of anger and hurt, I blurted out telling some people(including the members) what the church had done, how they hurt some of their members and disgrace them publicly. I was never hurt by the church directly, but people i was close to were the victims here and so this hurt me greatly.

I always discouraged people from going to that church and I said negative things about the church.
I never knew my actions were wrong, because to me afterall, the church was wrong & the church is still wrong because it's still happening and many members are leaving.
But the way we see things isn't the way God does.


One night, God came to me in a vision & showed me what my actions was causing that church. He showed me how it was tearing the church apart even more. He let me know I was wrong. Even though the church had made mistakes, I had no authority to castigate the church, thereby discouraging people & spoiling the name of the church (the people of God). He let me know the pastor of that church is actually called by Him, though the pastor has weaknesses as a man, and the church was growing slowly, I was still standing in the wrong position. I was wrong.
God was warning me!

After that revelation.. I never again castigated the church or anyone doing the work of Jesus Christ. Whether the person is fake or not, I leave it to God to judge the person. It is dangerous to insult a Prophet or Prophetess of God or even a Church belonging to God.
I remember how Elisha cursed some children(in the Name of the Lord) and two bears came up and killed 42 of those kids just because the children insulted him saying to him 'Go up, Bald Head'(II Kings 2:23).. If Elisha was wrong, why would God honour his word?

We must be careful how we speak of God's people. Later some people would start looking for the source & solution to their new problem. I pray it isn't so if your repent.

So pls keep the fake or real man/woman of God to yourself & Let God be the judge.

Thank you.. God bless you all!

1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

CharlyG1:
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.


I remember once when I was saying negative things about my former church. These things I was saying, I experienced them, I was there when these things happened so I wasn't lying in anyway.
The church made so many mistakes and treated some members quite unfairly.
Out of anger and hurt, I blurted out telling some people(including the members) what the church had done, how they hurt some of their members and disgrace them publicly. I was never hurt by the church directly, but people i was close to were the victims here and so this hurt me greatly.

I always discouraged people from going to that church and I said negative things about the church.
I never knew my actions were wrong, because to me afterall, the church was wrong & the church is still wrong because it's still happening and many members are leaving.
But the way we see things isn't the way God does.


One night, God came to me in a vision & showed me what my actions was causing that church. He showed me how it was tearing the church apart even more. He let me know I was wrong. Even though the church had made mistakes, I had no authority to castigate the church, thereby discouraging people & spoiling the name of the church (the people of God). He let me know the pastor of that church is actually called by Him, though the pastor has weaknesses as a man, and the church was growing slowly, I was still standing in the wrong position. I was wrong.
God was warning me!

After that revelation.. I never again castigated the church or anyone doing the work of Jesus Christ. Whether the person is fake or not, I leave it to God to judge the person. It is dangerous to insult a Prophet or Prophetess of God or even a Church belonging to God.
I remember how Elisha cursed some children(in the Name of the Lord) and two bears came up and killed 42 of those kids just because the children insulted him saying to him 'Go up, Bald Head'(II Kings 2:23).. If Elisha was wrong, why would God honour his word?

We must be careful how we speak of God's people. Later some people would start looking for the source & solution to their new problem. I pray it isn't so if your repent.

So pls keep the fake or real man/woman of God to yourself & Let God be the judge.

Thank you.. God bless you all!

All his and you never hesitated to tell us how you ran into some occult pastor. Interesting!

Anas09:
Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

if we can decipher, you will know those books addresses those still in bondage or a demonic oppression to believe and know they are capable of getting delivered by power of Jesus. for example, the book called He came to set the. captives free. this book deals with those in captivity and ignorant I'n darkness.. if you, are in light and not under any captivity of satan., why then criticize her books if they are not meant for you exactly

Anas09:
Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

Amen to that
I was once carried away by TB Joshua beginning last year when a Malaysian jet #MH370 disappeared. I stumbled into a prophecy TB had released claiming it was fulfilled. I happily shared it with others. I later came to learn about his other prophecies fulfilled and I marveled at the stunning accuracy.

That was until some aspects of the jet failed to add up. He claimed To be the only person in the world shown where the jet was and had the Malaysian government requested him, he'd have gone and shown them where the jet was!!!

TB Joshua is a serial charlatan who dispenses countless and wild prophecies based on probabilities. Some will ultimately turn right.

I questioned the need for revealing these to him if despite the prayers the evil still happens. The guy milks tragedy to elevate himself i gathered.
There is an excellent site dedicated to outing him
https://tbjoshuawatch.

Many have been delivered from the cultic bondage of SCOAN.

Now, why are Negroes terrified of criticizing ministers? It has to do with our tradition of honoring the medicinemen and traditional healers. These are guys you couldn't look in the face. This is carried over into Christianity and Pentecostalism, and is why believers tolerate so much nonsense from the pulpit lest Gof strikes them death. The result is ministers are given a blank check for impunity.

Cults and abusive groups exploit this to the max. Their leaders can never be questioned as doing so is confronting God. There is a book on this subject which I shared on his thread;
https://www.nairaland.com/2676167/churches-abuse

God’s Spirit Poured Out
“And it shall come to pass afterward 28
That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions.
And also on My menservants and on My maidservants 29 I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the
earth: 30
Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, 31
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the
LORD.
And it shall come to pass 32
That whoever calls on the name of the LORD
Shall be saved.
For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be
deliverance,
As the LORD has said,
Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.


who can. remember the mysteries that God revealed to Job in his time of trial. many wonders and signs will happen in this end times that will mark those of God .can't say much

Job 41 New International Version (NIV)
Footnotes:
a. Job 41:1 In Hebrew texts 41:1-8 is numbered 40:25-32,
and 41:9-34 is numbered 41:1-26.
b. Job 41:13 Septuagint; Hebrew double bridle
c. Job 41:15 Or Its pride is its
“Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook 41 [a ]
or tie down its tongue with a rope?
Can you put a cord through its nose 2
or pierce its jaw with a hook?
Will it keep begging you for mercy? 3
Will it speak to you with gentle words?
Will it make an agreement with you 4
for you to take it as your slave for life?
Can you make a pet of it like a bird 5
or put it on a leash for the young women in your
house?
Will traders barter for it? 6 Will they divide it up among the merchants?
Can you fill its hide with harpoons 7 or its head with fishing spears?
If you lay a hand on it, 8 you will remember the struggle and never do it
again!
Any hope of subduing it is false; 9
the mere sight of it is overpowering.
No one is fierce enough to rouse it. 10
Who then is able to stand against me?
Who has a claim against me that I must pay? 11
Everything under heaven belongs to me.
“I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs, 12 its strength and its graceful form.
Who can strip off its outer coat? 13 Who can penetrate its double coat of armor ? [b ]
Who dares open the doors of its mouth, 14 ringed about with fearsome teeth?
Its back has rows of shields 15 [ c]
tightly sealed together;
each is so close to the next 16 that no air can pass between.
They are joined fast to one another; 17 they cling together and cannot be parted.
Its snorting throws out flashes of light; 18 its eyes are like the rays of dawn.
Flames stream from its mouth; 19 sparks of fire shoot out.
Smoke pours from its nostrils 20 as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.
Its breath sets coals ablaze, 21 and flames dart from its mouth.
Strength resides in its neck; 22 dismay goes before it.
The folds of its flesh are tightly joined; 23 they are firm and immovable.
Its chest is hard as rock, 24 hard as a lower millstone.
When it rises up, the mighty are terrified; 25 they retreat before its thrashing.
The sword that reaches it has no effect, 26 nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.
Iron it treats like straw 27 and bronze like rotten wood.
Arrows do not make it flee; 28 slingstones are like chaff to it.
A club seems to it but a piece of straw; 29 it laughs at the rattling of the lance.
Its undersides are jagged potsherds, 30 leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.
It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron 31 and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.
It leaves a glistening wake behind it; 32 one would think the deep had white hair.
Nothing on earth is its equal— 33 a creature without fear.
It looks down on all that are haughty; 34 it is king over all that are proud.”

the Bible gives different account on warfare and enemies bit we are to fear only God Almighty


Psalm 27:1-3 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Of David. The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom
shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of
whom shall I be afraid? When evildoers assail me to eat
up my flesh, my adversaries and foes, it is they who
stumble and fall. Though an army encamp against me,
my heart shall not fear; though war arise against me,
yet I will be confident.


John 14:27 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as
the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be
troubled, neither let them be afraid.


Habakkuk 3:16 ESV / 10 helpful votes
I hear, and my body trembles; my lips quiver at the
sound; rottenness enters into my bones; my legs
tremble beneath me. Yet I will quietly wait for the day
of trouble to come upon people who invade us.

Revelation 3:17-22 ESV / 5 helpful votes For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your unclothedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Joshua 1:9 ESV / 103 helpful votes Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

Romans 8:38-39 ESV / 81 helpful votes For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I do agree Christians should focus on heaven and on God because it was over emphasis on Bible.. talking on kingdom of darkness was not emphasized on but it was stated in bible. Genesis 6:1-22 ESV / 4 helpful votes

When man began to multiply on the face of the land
and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw
that the daughters of man were attractive. And they
took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said,
“My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh:
his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the
earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons
of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore
children to them. These were the mighty men who were
of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the
wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that
every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only
evil continually. ...
Revelation 16:14 ESV / 3 helpful votes
For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go
abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble
them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

Anas09,
Is this an accurate summary of your position?

That Adam lived for billions of years during which he was ageless before falling after which he started aging as recorded in Genesis?

ccollins:
I do agree Christians should focus on heaven and on God because it was over emphasis on Bible.. talking on kingdom of darkness was not emphasized on but it was stated in bible.

You should major in what scriptures major and minor on what scriptures minor. Sadly the reality is true in your life; a lifestyle of 'warfare' and endless tales and accounts of demons and Satan

vooks:

You should major in what scriptures major and minor on what scriptures minor. Sadly the reality is true in your life; a lifestyle of 'warfare' and endless tales and accounts of demons and Satan

do not misquote or judge accuse some one wrongly, can you show me where my lifestyle reflect such tales

[quote author=Anas09 post=40543190]Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy.
After reading this, i felt like speaking tongues. God is indeed raising his own army. What can i say; my brother, go in this might. God bless you sir!!!

@TJayjosh, am not a brother, am a sister. Lol.
@Vooks, am not absolutly taking that position that man had lived for billions of yrs before the Fall.
Am saying, because time wasn't counting against man, but was counting on beast, it is then save to speculate that, the Dinosaurs had lived and extinct before the Fall (?). Remember this is me in my closeth reasoning.
And I also said, the evolutionist may have exergerated the yrs of these beast with the intent to mislead. I do not want to believe that the Pre-Adamic Era is a grey area. Anyways, what does it do for me? If other creatures other than man had lived on earth before man, how does that help me overcome sin? I don't care.
I choose to believe the word of God regarless of what anyone says.

I watched this movie, "The Theory of Everything". The true life story of an Atheist grand Master, Steven Haukins. I laffed at how one twisted invalid fellow can imagine things, and speak out his imaginations and men decided to believe him rather than the creator of all things.
If they say the earth is not Six (6) yrs old. Then they shd tell us how many yrs man lived on earth before the Fall. Becos its the fall that trigard againg, which eventually brought about death (I mean death in the flesh).

Anas09:
@TJayjosh, am not a brother, am a sister. Lol.
@Vooks, am not absolutly taking that position that man had lived for billions of yrs before the Fall.
Am saying, because time wasn't counting against man, but was counting on beast, it is then save to speculate that, the Dinosaurs had lived and extinct before the Fall (?). Remember this is me in my closeth reasoning.
And I also said, the evolutionist may have exergerated the yrs of these beast with the intent to mislead. I do not want to believe that the Pre-Adamic Era is a grey area. Anyways, what does it do for me? If other creatures other than man had lived on earth before man, how does that help me overcome sin? I don't care.
I choose to believe the word of God regarless of what anyone says.

I watched this movie, "The Theory of Everything". The true life story of an Atheist grand Master, Steven Haukins. I laffed at how one twisted invalid fellow can imagine things, and speak out his imaginations and men decided to believe him rather than the creator of all things.
If they say the earth is not Six (6) yrs old. Then they shd tell us how many yrs man lived on earth before the Fall. Becos its the fall that trigard againg, which eventually brought about death (I mean death in the flesh).

I feel you
The Genesis days are really literal days. Dinosaur lived with man not before man. But the force with which evolutionists push their agenda make you feel crazy for entertaining this.

What is the one thing that suggests the earth is billions of years because he bible does not suggest that?

[qoute]CharlyG1: 12:49am
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.
[/quote]
Don't worry about us. We are in good hands.

1 Corinthians 2:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Romans 14:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

1 Corinthians 5:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


1 Corinthians 5:13 |
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

How will we put away the evil if we are afraid to point the out?

1 Corinthians 6:2 |
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?


1 Corinthians 6:3 |
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Corinthians 10:15 |
I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say

muafrika:
[qoute]CharlyG1: 12:49am
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.

Don't worry about us. We are in good hands.

1 Corinthians 2:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Romans 14:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

1 Corinthians 5:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


1 Corinthians 5:13 |
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

How will we put away the evil if we are afraid to point the out?

1 Corinthians 6:2 |
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?


1 Corinthians 6:3 |
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Corinthians 10:15 |
I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say

loving this thread alot, God bless you all brothers and sisters, am learning alot from you guys,i must confess.. i just need to improve my christian lifestyle. @muafrika, do not go into quick summary of Bible verses for instance 1 Corinthians chapter6 stated from the beginning of the chapter, the intent of apostle Paul which was on not being partakers of earthly judging since God in future would give an eternal reward of privilege as saints to judge this present world after its end. **read the whole chapter to have a better understanding, thank you very much

Anas09:
Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

I think you're getting it wrong..
No one knows for sure if Rebecca Brown is a cultist. Her books have helped a good number of people, and I've only seen her use the Name of Jesus Christ..

You see, God trains each of His prophets in different ways. For example.. Some people may mock the MFM pastor & his congregation because of how they pray.. But their prayers work, and they're very effective in the deliverance ministry. It's how he was trained by God. So it's how God will build that church.

No one is putting fear into anybody. Some people are just not cut out to take in teachings of spiritual warfare. Any little thing, they become afraid. The gift of deliverance isn't for everyone, the Holy Spirit chooses who He gives His gifts.
You can't talk about spiritual warfare without talking about Satan & his demons.
I agree that people shouldn't always focus on putting everything on satan and demons but we should also be conscious of their activities. We perish for lack of knowledge because we have an enemy who knows us so well but we don't know him (satan)well.


People who see demons and have the gift of deliverance will always preach based on their experiences, and that's what Rebecca is doing..
No one can prove that she's fake except the so-called internet. Not everything from the internet is true. People like to bring others down for personal gain.. What if Satan is behind this?

When you have a solid proof about Rebecca, then bring it here. Solid proof means when you actually see her do something against the Name of God in person or in a video or in one of her books.

But for now, it's advisable not to throw tantrums at someone you know very little about.. What I said still stands. It's dangerous to speak negatively about people of God. What if God is on her side & against what you say? Have you thought about that?

And even if you think she's a fake, you shouldn't come to say it publicly, you can discuss it with people close to you but not in a public forum, what if you're wrong? If she's fake God will judge her. He said it Himself. He will judge the fake prophets.. So pls leave this woman alone and let's talk about more important things concerning the word of God.
Thank you. God bless you.

@Vooks.
I totally believe the Bible. Yes Dinosaurs lived with Man, that's why Adam will have a name for it. The evolutionist are pushing this conspiracy to esterblish their theory of evolution, hence the Billion of yrs old earth.
Am not a science student, so don't know and can't talk much about those things, But in my small mind I ask this. Man evolved from an Ape right? Then to those other creatures that are extinct then to them. Then how come we still have Apes today but no Dinosaurs? How many millions of yrs deos it take for an evolution to take place?

See, we are trolling this thread , forgive me Brother Charles.