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Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 11:33pm On Nov 30, 2015 |
hayzed1090: All you said there are devoid of knowledge. No body changes the meaning of the Bible by revision. All Bible versions are saying the samething in different statement. Even the quran translations are worse as they convey entirely different meaning as if they are not interpreting the same arabic text. That fight means war in islam is not my claim, it is quranic: Quran 8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: STRIKE OFF YE THEIR NECK AND THEIR FINGER-TIPS. [Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves...... Muhammad was merciless against unbelievers and you want me to believe he was retaliating. Quran 9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.” LIST OF BEHEADING DONE OR SUPERVISED BY MUHAMMAM: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad 1 Like |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 11:49pm On Nov 30, 2015 |
BETATRON: Who wrote those hadiths, Christians? I quoted two different hadith authors to dispel your above lame excuse. Are the two men lying and you are right? How did those hadiths find their ways into islamic records? Quran says obey allahh and his messenger. Where do you find Muhammad's words to be obeyed if not hadiths? Therefore, your excuse is barren. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 12:01am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:lol...we only accept a statement as that of prophet mohammad when it is in conformity with the koran So if it doesn't conform with the koran we don't accept it as the word of the prophet Cause the prophet is a walking KORAN |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by boykas(m): 12:54am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Honestly I don't have u should be answering this falseman2012 poo question, have stoped reading his post few weeks ago,cuz what he does is fraMe some lies against once religion and stop at a point when he has nothing to say again, if not that Allah warns the believers never to hate your fellow human being, I would have hate him long ago 1 Like |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 1:07am On Dec 01, 2015 |
boykas:true talk brother |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by Annunaki(m): 6:33am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: But the hadith he quoted is a sahih hadith and it's 100% in conformity with the quoran or do you want to deny your 'prophet' now ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 8:45am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Lol ! Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay zakat." Bukhari (53:392) - "While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be SAFE. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle." Now look at the quranic confirmations: Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) AND THE RELIGION (WORSHIP) WILL BE FOR ALLAH ALONE [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, AND RELIGION BE ONLY FOR ALLAH. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." Can you see your LIES now? Your brother boykas who advised you to run away has seen that your defence doesn't hold water. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by boykas(m): 10:15am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012: Mtwee!!! Eventhou he explain all this verses for you to understand will you still accept that Islam does not support terrorism. I just don't want him to waste his time on you |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by Annunaki(m): 10:46am On Dec 01, 2015 |
boykas: If you want us to believe you start by condemning all the terror inspiring verses in the quoran and also join the campaign that the terror verses be edited out of the quoran. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 10:48am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:you are dancing around the sames verse...a already clarified 2:193--from 2:190 And 8:39 from 8:36 LOL funny dude |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 11:03am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: You asked for confirmation of the quran and I gave you, should that be difficult to understand? If you are destined to be saved and you are delivered from islamic jinns inside of you, you will understand. allahh revealed violent verses and Muhammad carried them out as contained in the hadiths. That should be easy for anyone to understand if not under negative spiritual influence. Smh ! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 11:09am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:my brother please quote koran2:190 then read 2:193 Also quote 8;36 and the read 8:39 Then explain what you understand |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by Annunaki(m): 11:12am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: How was it clarified ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 11:20am On Dec 01, 2015 |
Annunaki:please quote 2:190 naw do you guys have any problem quoting 2;190 and 8:36? |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 11:30am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Those verses are just a few of the many contradictions in the quran. allahh was just substituting his revelations with contradicting ones. He was inconsistent to deceive the muslims: Quran 16:101] And when We put a revelation in place of (another) revelation, - and Allah knoweth best what He revealeth - they say: Lo! thou art but inventing. What was wrong with the ones he was replacing? Did he make mistakes. So allahh had replaced the peaceful verses with the violent ones and that is why TRUE muslims are violent. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 11:39am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:lol. ..this verse you quoted simple means sending another verse to elaborate on another...that is why I told you that one verse of the koran clarifies another..you cannot take just one verse and draw conclusions Doing that will mean injustice and illiteracy of the art of reading and an adult like you shouldn't be charged will illiteracy of the art of reading That's why I ask you to quote 2vs190 and 8vs36 as they clarify 2vs193 and 8vs39 respectively |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 11:48am On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: You either lack knowledge or you are lying. How does something substituted mean clarification? If something is substituted for another one, it means the substitute takes over and the substituted is no more in use. In fact, am getting bore of the way you are reasoning. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 11:56am On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:my brother,,take for example the commandments for the prohibition of alcoholism --the verses were sent down gradually but all based on the single fact that alcoholism is prohibited.. Substituting-means replacing something with another thing of the same kind but maybe better in quality like changing a football player for another you can't change a football player for a basketballer can you? Changing something with another of a different kind is abolishing not substituting Here we are talking of "clarification" so quote 2vs190 and 8vs36 and see what clarity means Or are you afraid?? |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by adullam210: 12:12pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
[quote author=BETATRON post=40524894]you missed the point bro..this people are in the muslim land..it is only natural that the number of africans in london are lesser that's the simple logic Hope you understand[/quotes] No. Are you also commanded to pay such when you are in a non-muslims lands? |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 12:18pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
[quote author=adullam210 post=40575735][/quote]it is the duty of every patriot regardless of whichever land he is in to pay tax,if not so western nation won't be charging people for tax evasion |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 12:19pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Look at the way you reason. Am I to quote quran for you to make your point? A substitute does not necessarily mean a thing of its kind, it could be a total change. There is no reference to the the substitute referring to alcohol in the quran. If a footballer is substituted, does he play again in the match? It shows those peaceful verses allahh substituted is no more in use in islam. By the way, do you know the leader of ISIL has Ph.D in islamic studies? He knows islam far better than you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi 4 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by adullam210: 12:35pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
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Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by adullam210: 12:37pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON:is d jizah the normal tax, do Muslims also pay it? |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 12:47pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:with money you can get a certificate in whatever field in other words certificates can be forged About the gradual prohibition of alcohol that is subject for another day Since you are unable to quote quran2vs190 and 8vs36 lemme save you the misery QURAN2vs190--fight in the way of Allah those WHO FiGHT YOU and DO NOT BE TRANSGRESSOR for Allah HATES THE TRANGRESSOR---with this any body with some sense will understand succeeding verses not cutting the verse and making false claims QURAN3VS36--indeed the FAITHLESS SPEND their WEALTh to BAR(prevent you) FRom the way of ALlah---continues---- This alone is enough to explain the Quran8vs39--fight them until FitNAL(trail,tribulations,prosecution---every method deviced to bar the muslim from the way of God) iS NO MORE |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 1:10pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
adullam210:fine question brother..the jizya applies to non muslims staying muslim land permanently and the poor,women,widom and other unprivileged non-muslims are exempted from it And this jizya is fixed and is used as a compensation or donation for the poor and unprivileged non-muslims alike...so this non-muslim who a obligated to pay jizya are seen as part or citizens of the country and should contribute In the welfare of the land As for muslims they are obligated to pay zakat which is about 2.5% of your annual earnings or more depending on generosity |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 2:13pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Did you read the link? If you did it means you are not sincere to yourself. You mean islamic Universities are so corrupt and do sell certificates to people? Read the testimony of ISIL leader's mate in the University of Baghdad as in the link and you will know he didn't buy his certificate. If Ph.D holder is talking islam, you should keep silent and listen. Those verses of peace you quoted had been abrogated and replaced with: Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for PEACE, when ye should be uppermost. Allah said they should not seek peace but instead continue warring. Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people. Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Look at Muhammad's fulfillment of those verses in use now: Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and KILL those who disbelieve in Allah." Do you see where FIGHT is equal to WAR and not STRUGGLE? Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror' That is islamic terrorism for you. Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'." Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” The list is long but get do with that for now. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by Annunaki(m): 2:27pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: Why do you muslims love lying so much ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 2:53pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Annunaki: Good post. |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by BETATRON(m): 4:01pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
truthman2012:again you commit the same mistakes You skipped Quran-47;34--indeed those Who are faithless and BAR(prevent people) from the way of Allah and then die in this manner Allah will never forgive them Same crime you committed with the second verse You skipped Quran9vs13--will you not Fight the PEOPLE WHO BROKE THEIR PLEDGES and RESOLVED TO EXPEL THE APOSTLE and OPENED(hostilities) against then INITIALLY? Already expelled QURAN3vs151--its of the terror of the hereafter for non believers,wrongdoers and faithless---what objection do you have against this?? Quran8vs59-60--explains itself---but verse56 makes it clearer------THOSE wtih whom you made a TREATY(of peace),and who VIOLATED their treaty EVERY TIME and WHO and Not GODweary---- Verse61 goes further to clarify---and if they INCLINE towards peace,then you(too) incline toward it and put your Trust in God ---how come you got to verse3and 4 of surah47 without passing through Verse1 Quran47vs1--those who are(themselves) FAITHLESS and BAR(prevent,,prosecute e.t.c) from the way of Allah---He has made their works go awry And then you deem it truthful to skip a part of verse4 because it does not suit your objectives right THE PARt YOU SKIPPED ----thereafter either oblige them(by setting them free) or take ransom till the war lays down it burdens |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by Nobody: 4:07pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
HerJahSir: Lies. Read “The kindness and generosity of Christians creates a gap between their faith and Muslims as great as that between earth and sky. While our fellow Muslims betrayed us, the Christians showed us real humanity and love.” “While our fellow Muslims betrayed us, the Christians showed us real humanity and love.” https://stream.org/muslims-converting-christianity-isis-atrocities/ From your Muslim brothers in Iraq. You speak like this because you obviously haven't left nigeria. |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by truthman2012(m): 4:55pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
BETATRON: You skipped Quran-47;34-- indeed those Who are faithless and BAR(prevent people) from the way of Allah and then die in this manner Allah will never forgive them Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for PEACE, when ye should be uppermost. Allah said they should not seek peace but instead continue warring. allahh said those infidels who DIED have no forgiveness in 47:34 and muslims should not look for PEACE for those alive in 47:35. Is that not what I have been saying then? That means muslims are enjoined to make war with the infidels and not make PEACE with them. Now, explain this verse: [Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves..... |
Re: Why Boko Haram Turned To Mosques Bombing by boykas(m): 10:42pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Annunaki: Are you claiming that there are none in the bible?? |
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