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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: Barca that were able to sign Ballon D'or winners? You mean they didn't spend much? AC Milan, Madrid, Barca and Juventus were the teams that had the money to spend. The best foreign players went to these teams. English league didn't rebrand early enough to open/attract foreign players. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:22pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1:So that is the only reason ? Enrique no sabi reach boas talkless of fergie but if you believe he is better no wahala. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:25pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
SIRcumalot: What was the reason? I didn't say Enrique is better than them both but is it quite great for a coach to win two UCL in 25 years with one team? Answer in fairness |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:25pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 3:25pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: He was sacked because of poor results. Which big boys dey Roma? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:30pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: lol Barca never signed any Balon D'or winner. They all won Balon D'or at barca. Get your facts right. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:33pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: He was benching Totti and that influenced the dressing room which resulted to losses. Why did Pep sell all the big boys first when he got to Barca? Why did Mou let Raul and Guti leave when he got to Madrid? They all know what the possible outcome would be if they were in their teams |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Nothing was explained. There is absolute no explantation for a coach to win just 2 UCL in 25 years with same team. Fergie was a local champion. That is the hard core fact |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 3:42pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: Lol! I thought you said big BOYS. It is now big BOY Totti. Even at that, Pep also sold some big boys and at the same time got results. Why didn`t Enrique get results despite having issue with only one big boy? There should be other young players that should be taking positions. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:42pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: Exactly, United and Barca were in for Ronaldinho but Barca beat United to it. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:46pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1:yes it isn't a great record even fergie admitted as much in his book. But football doesn't end with the UCL For a manager to continually reinvent his style and last that long is an achievement that won't be seen again. Di matteo is a UCL winner is he better than Klopp,Wenger or Cholo ? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:50pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: So what do you say about these long serving coaches who won nothing in Europe? 1. Ronnie McFall, Portadown FC (Northern Ireland). 29 years still counting. Employed same year as SAF (2) Arsène Wenger, Arsenal FC (England) 19 years still counting. (3) Thomas Schaaf, SV Werder Bremen (Germany) 14 years at Werder Bremen first team. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:51pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Ain't one Big Boy enough to influence the dressing room.. Totti to Roma as Gerrard is to Liverpool. You have issues with them then its trouble. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 3:52pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: You know nothing about football management. You think it`s really easy for a coach to be at a mid or lower table club for even ten years not to talk of being at a top club for that period. Mention any club in europe top teams that has the same coach for at least ten years except Arsenal. It is even a credit to him to have stayed for that long and won those trophies he won. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:54pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: lol. You are very funny ooo i swear down. 1. Northern Ireland is a country and its not a football nation, you deal with the materials you have. 2. Is wenger a coach or an accountant? 3. You wanna compare Werder Bremen to United? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:56pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Look up, a member already answered the question regarding longevity of a coach in a team. No one said its easy but its a poor result for Fergie. Accept that fact, two ucl in 25 years.. He is a local champion. FACT!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 3:57pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: Why wasn`t Mourinho sacked when he allowed Lampard to go? Or is it that Lampard wasn`t a big boy at Chelsea? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:04pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: You know the answer to that question. Who besides Mou would do that in Chelsea? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:08pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Ferguson is a good coach but he still has his superiors in coaching Winning 2 CL titles in 26yrs with the same team is poor maybe not poor but just average |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 4:09pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: Local champion! And he qualified the team to UCL final three times in how many years only to be beaten twice. by a Barca team that has been described as the best team of the past few years. A team that hasn`t lost any UCL final in the past 10/11 years. A local champion will never even take a team beyond the group stages. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 4:11pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: So, it`s only Mourinho that could do that. What about a Rookie Pep doing same in his first season with him not getting sacked? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:11pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I remember when Coogar made the exact same argument about Moyes. Coogar's argument that period was that Moyes failure to beat any of the top 4 after 11 attempts was the epitome of failure... The post garnered several likes... I personally do not think that Ferguson was poor in Europe though...Manyoo was a continental force that competed every year 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:13pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: You were the one who brought years of stay at one club. Arsene Wenger spent higher than SAF in late 1990s and around 2000-2002. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:14pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Nihilist: Maybe not poor but average Consider that Man Utd was one of the richest clubs in Europe. Most of the time countries had 1 or 2 participants In Europe how many tier 1 and 2 football nation say 7. So Man Utd is one of 14 clubs who would compete every season If I am given a team who has the riches of Man Utd and the type of free hand Fergie has. In 20yrs I would win more than 4 CL |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:16pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: We are talking about 26 years and not few years. 26 GOOD YEARS He was poor in Europe, simple! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:17pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: This argument is weak. Man Utd was already a force. How do you expect Arsenal to cope or compete? If Everton wants to start competing with an established side like Man City now how else would they do it if not to spend and possibly outspend City. City already has like 10 World class players and dont need to buy, For Everton to get close they need to get their own 8 World class players Dont put me in the awkward position of defending a failure like Wenger. Wenger is a coaching failure but you are not making the right point. The right point is how can Arsene Wenger in a career of over 30yrs have failed to win ANYTHING in Europe |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:18pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: He was given the go ahead to do. Its was the birth of a new era. Appointing Guardiola in the first place was a risk and they allowed him to carry on and he simply excelled. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:18pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:in his time, he had no superior IMO but u can enlighten me by naming a few......dont name d likes of mourinho enrique pep etc because they r not his mates...they were still playing when he was in his prime |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
lekkie073: His number 1 superior Ottmar Hitzfeld. You can try refute it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:19pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: You saw only riches but forgot the debts. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Are they debt free at the moment? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:22pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter:and he won just one ucl in all his coaching career... how is he superior ![]() its very refutable , my friend ![]() |
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