truthman2012:
So allahh requires all able-bodied muslims to be terrorists.

No room for Muslims sitting on the fence otherwise painful doom is awaiting them. You better renounce allahh and embrace the Lord of peace, Jesus.

Peace I leave with you, my
peace I give unto you: not as
the world giveth, give I unto
you. Let not your heart be
troubled, ...(John 14:27).

truthman2012:


You skipped Quran-47;34--
indeed those Who are faithless
and BAR(prevent people) from
the way of Allah and then die in
this manner Allah will never
forgive them

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary
and faint-hearted, crying for
PEACE, when ye should be
uppermost.

Allah said they should not
seek peace but instead
continue warring.

allahh said those infidels who DIED have no forgiveness in 47:34 and muslims should not look for PEACE for those alive in 47:35.

Is that not what I have been saying then? That means muslims are enjoined to make war with the infidels and not make PEACE with them.

Now, explain this verse:

[Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah. And those
with him are HARD against the
disbelievers and merciful among
themselves.....

BETATRON:
surah48vs29----by being HARD,FIRM,STRICT with DISBELIEVERS it means----They are not such that the
disbelievers may mold them as they like. They can
neither be cowed nor purchased by any inducement.
The disbelievers have no power to turn them away
from the great objective for the sake of which they
have joined and followed the Prophet (peace be upon
him) even at the cost of their lives.

Every religion is adviced to do thesame as regard DISBELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVE---II corinthians6vs14---Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For
what do righteousness and wickedness have in
common? Or what fellowship can light have with
darkness?

truthman2012:


Lies !

HARD against disbelievers but MERCIFUL to themselves. The opposite of MERCIFUL is the HARD (i.e MERCILESS). Simple English statement.

Be not unqually yoked with unbelievers is not to be WICKED against them but not do what they are doing. Simple.

BETATRON:
fine question brother..the jizya applies to non muslims staying muslim land permanently and the poor,women,widom and other unprivileged non-muslims are exempted from it

And this jizya is fixed and is used as a compensation or donation for the poor and unprivileged non-muslims alike...so this non-muslim who a obligated to pay jizya are seen as part or citizens of the country and should contribute In the welfare of the land

As for muslims they are obligated to pay zakat which is about 2.5% of your annual earnings or more depending on generosity

adullam210:

What is d real purpose(s) of imposing jizah on non-muslims only?

BETATRON:
as this non-muslims on whom jizya are imposed stayed in the muslim land PERMANENTLY it is a fee for the protection of the Non-muslims by the muslim government and it is worthy to note that non muslims who are only residing in the muslim lands temporarily don't pay jizya

truthman2012:
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; AND WHOSO TURNETH BACK, HIM WILL HE PUNISH WITH PAINFUL DOOM"

This verse says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

THAT IS WHY TERRORISTS KILL NON-VIOLENT MUSLIMS AS ALLAH HIMSELF SAID THEY WILL SUFFER TORMENT IN HELL.

Why because:

Quran (2:216) - "FIGHTING IS PRESCRIBED FOR YOU,AND YE DISLIKE IT. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "

This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way ARE MUCH GREATER IN WORTH IN ALLAH'S SIGHT. These are they who are triumphant."

Keepshining:
Now i know.

truthman2012:
So allahh requires all able-bodied muslims to be terrorists.

No room for Muslims sitting on the fence otherwise painful doom is awaiting them. You better renounce allahh and embrace the Lord of peace, Jesus.

Peace I leave with you, my
peace I give unto you: not as
the world giveth, give I unto
you. Let not your heart be
troubled, ...(John 14:27).

boykas:




Are you claiming that there are none in the bible??

BETATRON:
as this non-muslims on whom jizya are imposed stayed in the muslim land PERMANENTLY it is a fee for the protection of the Non-muslims by the muslim government and it is worthy to note that non muslims who are only residing in the muslim lands temporarily don't pay jizya

tartar9:
sharrap liar! which peace?
"do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword"

boykas:




Are you claiming that there are none in the bible??

BETATRON:
lol...I have made my point

The koran clearly state---DO not LEt EVEN HATRED for a people lead you towards commiting injustice--quran5vs8

To clarify more on the verse read the exegesis of the verse and see for your self

Have a nice night

truthman2012:


The quran is not credible. For every verse, there is the contradictory verse. If it says an act is good in a verse, it would say it is bad in another. So if someone accuses the quran of saying an act is bad, muslims would quickly say no and quote the contradictory verse that says it is good. Muslims defend the quran with its contradictions and that is exactly what you are doing.

BETATRON:
again you commit the same mistakes

You skipped Quran-47;34--indeed those Who are faithless and BAR(prevent people) from the way of Allah and then die in this manner Allah will never forgive them

Same crime you committed with the second verse

You skipped Quran9vs13--will you not Fight the PEOPLE WHO BROKE THEIR PLEDGES and RESOLVED TO EXPEL THE APOSTLE and OPENED(hostilities) against then INITIALLY?

Already expelled QURAN3vs151--its of the terror of the hereafter for non believers,wrongdoers and faithless---what objection do you have against this??

Quran8vs59-60--explains itself---but verse56 makes it clearer------THOSE wtih whom you made a TREATY(of peace),and who VIOLATED their treaty EVERY TIME and WHO and Not GODweary----

Verse61 goes further to clarify---and if they INCLINE towards peace,then you(too) incline toward it and put your Trust in God

---how come you got to verse3and 4 of surah47 without passing through Verse1

Quran47vs1--those who are(themselves) FAITHLESS and BAR(prevent,,prosecute e.t.c) from the way of Allah---He has made their works go awry

And then you deem it truthful to skip a part of verse4 because it does not suit your objectives right

THE PARt YOU SKIPPED
----thereafter either oblige them(by setting them free) or take ransom till the war lays down it burdens

BETATRON:
that's because you're ignorant and bent on disproving the Koran.

Cause if you're not ignorant you will understand does verses clearly

And if you are not bent on disproving the koran you wouldn't quote surahs like 2vs193 and turn a blind eye to 190 or surah 47vs3nd4 and run away from vs1

Well all your efforts has gone to waste try harder next time

This is my last reply to you on this trend so don't bother quoting

mamsong9:


Don't listen to them, even when they quote bible they skip some verse, talk less of Quran. They want to make everybody believe their man god by force.

truthman2012:


Is it not unreasonable to believe in Muhammad's revelations, the quran that denies Jesus as the Son of God?

Muhammad didn't possess the characters of someone God can use as a prophet. How do you believe the revelation of a murderer, rapist, womanizer, carravan robber, liar ? The true God cannot have such a man as his prophet. Never.

It then means everything he said in the quran is from Satan.

mamsong9:


Even son of your fellow Christians still have doubt in their mind concerning Sonship of Jesus. Nothing qualify him as the son of God.
God has no Son, would you start using your brain for the first time?

mamsong9:


Don't listen to them, even when they quote bible they skip some verse, talk less of Quran. They want to make everybody believe their man god by force.

BETATRON:
hehehe.He tire me oh...I wonder How TRYING to prove another persons religion wrong makes theirs right

truthman2012:


Here you come again, you don't use your brain to discern spiritual things because they are invisible.

Which fellow Christian children doubt Jesus Sonship? You lie freely because your god permits lying.

BETATRON:
hehehe.He tire me oh...I wonder How TRYING to prove another persons religion wrong makes theirs right

mamsong9:


What is spiritual about somebody been born without father, even after God made it know to you that he is alone in His dominion, His Majesty, His Kingship...
Must you prove to us that a man is God or what?

Look God is not man, and so He never beget anybody.

truthman2012:


Well, you are not alone in the unbelief, people like you killed Jesus for calling himself the Son of God.

Everything about Jesus is denied by islam showing its FALSEHOOD.

mamsong9:


while, all I know is that Jesus can never be God, nor Son of God.
You can never take him to a level beyond the level God put him, and that is A PROPTHET OF GOD.

mamsong9:


Really, did Jesus called himself son of God?

truthman2012:


Yes, he did and it was the reason they killed him.

John 19:7
The Jewish leaders insisted, "We
have a law, and according to that
law he must die, because he
claimed to be the Son of God.


John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father
hath sanctified, and sent into the
world, Thou blasphemest; because
I said, I am the Son of God?

Annunaki:


According to islamic allahh who confessed to being the greatest of deceivers and mohammed who was a notorious armed robber, womaniser, liar and murderer. Why will you believe the testimonies of such viles characters?

mamsong9:


It is a lie, he never said so.