https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQLrbfxeiQ

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I183vcUKp6c

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI7VUSIouk

africaken:

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hQLrbfxeiQ

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I183vcUKp6c

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI7VUSIouk

denisfidha:
The Iranians are at it again, this time using our own, just like alshabaab

Turkey has suspended its Air Force flights over Syria in the international coalition campaign in the fight against the Islamic State after the downing of the Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber, Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper reported Friday, citing diplomatic sources.
On Tuesday, a Turkish Air Force F-16 downed the Russian bomber 4 kilometers from the Turkish border. Both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command confirmed that the Su-24 never crossed into Turkish airspace and was shot down over Syrian territory, citing precise objective control data.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists."
One of the two Su-24 pilots was killed by fire from the ground after ejecting from the plane. The second pilot was rescued in a 12-hour-long operation.

africaken:
turkey Suspends Air Force Flights Over Syria After Attack on Su-24



Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151127/1030840917/turkish-aviation-syria-su-24.html#ixzz3t2sJ2SN0

frumentius:
Malian Army ! Actually, these clowns should be called Malian so-called army .

https://videos.funker530.com/bitmotive/public/funker530/v1.0/videos/funker530/63c701c652c72148c38ab28041df44d2/854x480.mp4

China successfully conducted a sixth flight test of its DF-ZF (previously known as WU-14) hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) designed to defeat US missile defenses.

F-35 Lightning II
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US Warned to Sell Weapons Faster, or Allies Will Seek Deals With China
“The DF-ZF is an ultra-high-speed missile allegedly capable of penetrating US air defense systems based on interceptor missiles,” Bill Gertz of The Washington Free BeaconThe DF-ZF HGV was launched at the Wuzhai missile test center in central China’s Shanxi Province. It was transported by a ballistic missile near the edge of the atmosphere, where it separated from its launcher and then glided to an impact range a few thousand kilometers away in western China, according to The Washington Free Beacon.
“The DF-ZF flight was tracked by US intelligence agencies and flew at speeds beyond Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound,” Gertz noted.
The DF-ZF HGV warhead is carried to the boundary between space and Earth’s atmosphere, roughly 100 km above the ground, by a ballistic missile booster.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBrDMVC0WmM

ViceAdmiral:
Gottfried i got a million questions for u right now...

Seeing that we bought the Agrale Marruas from Brazil(when it was said we wer interested in a Chinese copy of the HUMVEE)...We bought the Kornet ATGM and those 183 trucks from Russia Im sort of seeing our military not 'preferring' Chinese equipment in the future...NOW does that speak volumes about the performance the Chinese equipment we have in service(Could the equipment be that bad )

Also seeing that our second last Chief of Defence Force was (forcibly ) honorably 'retired' after he was exposed as having accepted money from a Chinese defense company that was doing business with our military at the time could that indicate that Chinese equipment was bought coz Generals wer given 'commissions' Whats your take?

Henry240:
Epenal Ship builder, a local Nigerian vessel building company is to deliver 10 units of 12 meters boats to the Nigerian JTF on the 30/11/2015.

africaken:
we are allowing foreigners to use our country as their rest room to come to defecate

Tehran, Nov. 30, IRNA – Iran's embassy in Nairobi in a statement denied any kind of connection between a group of arrested Kenyan persons and Iranian intelligence and security bodies and termed dissemination of such news and an unconstructive move.
According to the report by Foreign Ministry Media Department on Monday, Iran has always attached special importance to its relations with African countries, especially Kenya, abd based on this Iran declares its full readiness to cooperate with the Kenyan government in fight against terrorism.
Meanwhile, the embassy declared its readiness to cooperate with relevant Kenyan officials to clarify the issue.
http://www.irna.ir/en/News/81860656/

ssaengine:
http://m.timeslive.co.za/local/?articleId=15965166

SANDF Rooivalk attack helicopters have launched multiple attacks on Islamic-linked rebel forces in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo.

The Ugandan separatist Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) have been behind a spate of massacres at schools‚ hospitals and villages in the region.South African National Defence Force troops are in the area as part of a United Nations-backed peacekeeping mission to restore stability to the eastern DRC.

The attacks by the SANDF late yesterday were carried out despite the DRC government trying to forbid the UN's actions.Reports indicate that the helicopters caused considerable damage to several of the rebels' bases‚ although exact losses of ADF personnel are unknown.

jln115:
Thought id move this discussion here, what do you guys think of a possible Co Nigeria-South Africa development of the Rooivalk 2?.....Its a win win, we need more Rooivalk, Nigeria need more Attack helos and a minimum order of 75 units is required to restart production.



If the Rooivalk hasn't proved its worth by now, I don't know what will!!

Apparently there are 2 countries( excl SA) interested in the Rooivalk, and if I remember correctly a minimum order of 75 units is necessary to restart production.

Personally I feel Denel should partner with an African country as well in developing the Rooivalk 2, and when I say African country I specifically mean Nigeria, they are in need of a dedicated Attack Helo and have the financial and industrial resources to partner South Africa in producing the Rooivalk 2. Opening a production facility in Nigeria could also possibly open a new market for the Rooivalk in North and West Africa.

The 2 countries interested in the Rooivalk(possibly Brazil and Malaysia) will most likely result in an order of 40-60 units, SAAF could do with another 20 Rooivalk and Nigeria would also be looking for 20+ units, thus we have a minimum of 80 orders and a maximum of about 100 units, enough to restart production grin

Patchesagain:


I dont see two major geo-political rivals co-operating.

I also dont see us sharing any of our tech with anyone but the big dogs who we need something from in return (ie: A-darter and Brazil)

Its sad but its just how it is.

Best bet is minor industrialization with our SADAC neighbors (some sort of factory in Bots maybe a small order from Angola etc)

Patchesagain:


I dont see two major geo-political rivals co-operating.

I also dont see us sharing any of our tech with anyone but the big dogs who we need something from in return (ie: A-darter and Brazil)

Its sad but its just how it is.

Best bet is minor industrialization with our SADAC neighbors (some sort of factory in Bots maybe a small order from Angola etc)

jln115:
Thought id move this discussion here, what do you guys think of a possible Co Nigeria-South Africa development of the Rooivalk 2?.....Its a win win, we need more Rooivalk, Nigeria need more Attack helos and a minimum order of 75 units is required to restart production.



If the Rooivalk hasn't proved its worth by now, I don't know what will!!

Apparently there are 2 countries( excl SA) interested in the Rooivalk, and if I remember correctly a minimum order of 75 units is necessary to restart production.

Personally I feel Denel should partner with an African country as well in developing the Rooivalk 2, and when I say African country I specifically mean Nigeria, they are in need of a dedicated Attack Helo and have the financial and industrial resources to partner South Africa in producing the Rooivalk 2. Opening a production facility in Nigeria could also possibly open a new market for the Rooivalk in North and West Africa.

The 2 countries interested in the Rooivalk(possibly Brazil and Malaysia) will most likely result in an order of 40-60 units, SAAF could do with another 20 Rooivalk and Nigeria would also be looking for 20+ units, thus we have a minimum of 80 orders and a maximum of about 100 units, enough to restart production grin

iblawi:


I don't think Nigerians see South Africans as rival except online. What ever we do online remains online. we hate no African country and we wish every country in Africa too was like Nigeria or south Africa economically or politically. You can ask every other South African who have been to Nigeria about that.

Having such helicopter produced in Nigeria and South Africa will be nice and I see many African countries ordering for the gunship. The order might jump close to 200.

No country has everything but combining what you have with what another person has can be very fruitful.
That has been the secret of Europe for a long time.

If AU can be as United as EU, Africa will be a better place.

Henry240:


I'm all for "Make in Africa"...... Specifically Make in Nigeria.


However, there are significant draw backs regarding your proposal, chief of which is.... Politics!

- There simply is no political will to support such a project.

- If 54 African countries cannot support a mere $1 billion for the AU's standy force, where is the finance going to come from?


Strictly speaking on the government side, I don't see it working.

A private sector initiative/partnership with government commitment to purchase holds more promise. The private sector has the money, the wherewithal and much more to lose if the program fails unlike the government.


I say start small, a jointly developed IFV or OPV sized vessel, and we move from there.

iblawi:


I don't think Nigerians see South Africans as rival except online. What ever we do online remains online. we hate no African country and we wish every country in Africa too was like Nigeria or south Africa economically or politically. You can ask every other South African who have been to Nigeria about that.

Having such helicopter produced in Nigeria and South Africa will be nice and I see many African countries ordering for the gunship. The order might jump close to 200.

No country has everything but combining what you have with what another person has can be very fruitful.
That has been the secret of Europe for a long time.

Patchesagain:


Problem is that most african countries cannot afford it, or anything else in its class. Doubtfull wether Nigeria or South Africa can even afford it.

jln115:

200 orders i think is a bit far fetched, but i think 50 orders between South Africa and Nigeria and a further 20-30 odd from countries like Angola, Kenya ,Sudan, Ethiopia and maybe even Libya.

The rest of Africa unfortunately spend to little on Defence to make it possible to buy the Rooivalk, even if we are able to reduce the cost to about $25 mil per unit

The good thing is Brazil can easily acquire up to 40 units and Malaysia who have also shown interest in the Rooivalk could acquire between 10-20 units.

Henry240:


I'm all for "Make in Africa"...... Specifically Make in Nigeria.


However, there are significant draw backs regarding your proposal, chief of which is.... Politics!

- There simply is no political will to support such a project.

- If 54 African countries cannot support a mere $1 billion for the AU's standy force, where is the finance going to come from?


Strictly speaking on the government side, I don't see it working.

A private sector initiative/partnership with government commitment to purchase holds more promise. The private sector has the money, the wherewithal and much more to lose if the program fails unlike the government.


I say start small, a jointly developed IFV or OPV sized vessel, and we move from there.

jln115:
Thought id move this discussion here, what do you guys think of a possible Co Nigeria-South Africa development of the Rooivalk 2?.....Its a win win, we need more Rooivalk, Nigeria need more Attack helos and a minimum order of 75 units is required to restart production.



If the Rooivalk hasn't proved its worth by now, I don't know what will!!

Apparently there are 2 countries( excl SA) interested in the Rooivalk, and if I remember correctly a minimum order of 75 units is necessary to restart production.

Personally I feel Denel should partner with an African country as well in developing the Rooivalk 2, and when I say African country I specifically mean Nigeria, they are in need of a dedicated Attack Helo and have the financial and industrial resources to partner South Africa in producing the Rooivalk 2. Opening a production facility in Nigeria could also possibly open a new market for the Rooivalk in North and West Africa.

The 2 countries interested in the Rooivalk(possibly Brazil and Malaysia) will most likely result in an order of 40-60 units, SAAF could do with another 20 Rooivalk and Nigeria would also be looking for 20+ units, thus we have a minimum of 80 orders and a maximum of about 100 units, enough to restart production grin