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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:24pm On Dec 03, 2015
Fkforyou:


Why Gazidis? it's not like we are madrid where it's the management that makes all the decision when it comes to signing, is it?....Wenger has a say. He is just beign arrogant as you rightly pointed.
edi287:

I actually think Gazidis has done well. Thanks to him, we've gotten some great sponsorship deals.
Its Dick Law that needs to bounce...that slowpoke sucks at negotiating Transfers.
Gazidis and Dein excelled in their own rights, but while Dein pushed for titles and player development, Gazidis wanted Arsenal to be among the financially stable clubs.

Dein gave us titles and world class players, Gazidis gave us stability and world class stadium.

What I am saying is ''thank you'' to Mr Gazidis but we need titles again just as Dein gave us.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:28pm On Dec 03, 2015
edi287:

Real wanted 25m, we offered 23m. Napoli fresh with Cavani money, offered 31m.
Same with Mata; he had a buy out clause which wasn't that much, yet we still tried to haggle that till it expired and Chelsea came with double.
The Higuain deal is most frustrating because we would've gotten him for 6m less than Napoli paid for him.
I concur.

Dick Law is one hell of a dickhead isn't he?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:31pm On Dec 03, 2015
Wenger is hoping to bring in a 16 year old sensational footballer..he plays like messi nd ronaldo combine
Can't wait for January grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 4:18pm On Dec 03, 2015
Spy360:

Gazidis and Dein excelled in their own rights, but while Dein pushed for titles and player development, Gazidis wanted Arsenal to be among the financially stable clubs.

Dein gave us titles and world class players, Gazidis gave us stability and world class stadium.

What I am saying is ''thank you'' to Mr Gazidis but we need titles again just as Dein gave us.
We could have both- just sack Law.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 5:07pm On Dec 03, 2015
edi287:

Real wanted 25m, we offered 23m. Napoli fresh with Cavani money, offered 31m.
Same with Mata; he had a buy out clause which wasn't that much, yet we still tried to haggle that till it expired and Chelsea came with double.
The Higuain deal is most frustrating because we would've gotten him for 6m less than Napoli paid for him.

Is it D Law that has the money?

He can only recommend

The final decision is made by Kroenke who uses Money ball

He will not budge

Napoli stole into the deal with a larger offer.. Real needed the dough...

Kpomkwem!




Well... similar too with Mata
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 5:11pm On Dec 03, 2015
Spy360:

Gazidis and Dein excelled in their own rights, but while Dein pushed for titles and player development, Gazidis wanted Arsenal to be among the financially stable clubs.

Dein gave us titles and world class players, Gazidis gave us stability and world class stadium.

What I am saying is ''thank you'' to Mr Gazidis but we need titles again just as Dein gave us.

Nope

Dein sold his shares to Usmanov and left the company because Fisman did not like Usmanov

Gazidis came much later about 2012 from the US to help the club with commercial deals.

Wenger was the defacto CEO with Fiszman for the four or five years


When Fisman died, Stan bought all the shares and brought Moneyball
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 5:43pm On Dec 03, 2015
pickabeau1:


Is it D Law that has the money?

He can only recommend

The final decision is made by Kroenke who uses Money ball

He will not budge

Napoli stole into the deal with a larger offer.. Real needed the dough...

Kpomkwem!




Well... similar too with Mata
Law is incharge of Transfers. Even if he isn't, there's no way in the world that Kroenke will refuse to sanction a 25m transfer yet agree to a 40m one for Suarez and 42.5m for Ozil.
D Law is worse than Woodward. They're both slow.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 5:48pm On Dec 03, 2015
edi287:

Law is incharge of Transfers. Even if he isn't, there's no way in the world that Kroenke will refuse to sanction a 25m transfer yet agree to a 40m one for Suarez and 42.5m for Ozil.
D Law is worse than Woodward. They're both slow.

hahahaha.. you are making assumptions

Don't forget Wenger too is a factor

If he feels a player is overpriced, he will overrule D Law

Dein was a vice chairman and an executive in charge of transfers

Gazidis is just a commercial guy

Wenger is still in charge of transfers
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 5:50pm On Dec 03, 2015
pickabeau1:


Nope

Dein sold his shares to Usmanov and left the company because Fisman did not like Usmanov

Gazidis came much later about 2012 from the US to help the club with commercial deals.

Wenger was the defacto CEO with Fiszman for the four or five years


When Fisman died, Stan bought all the shares and brought Moneyball
I think Dein messed up by not supporting the building of Emirates.
He failed to see the bigger picture and advantage of having a bigger Stadium. We had already outgrown Highbury anyways and Dein would've helped in raising investment for a new stadium (something which usmanov did not give a toss about).
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edi287: 5:54pm On Dec 03, 2015
pickabeau1:


hahahaha.. you are making assumptions

Don't forget Wenger too is a factor

If he feels a player is overpriced, he will overrule D Law

Dein was a vice chairman and an executive in charge of transfers

Gazidis is just a commercial guy

Wenger is still in charge of transfers

True there is the Wenger factor and this is where Dein would've come in handy. In the case of the Higuain transfer, Wenger could say its expensive and Dein will tell him not to worry about that.
Its ridiculous for Wenger to determine how much we can spend on a player. That should have nothing to do with him.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:17pm On Dec 03, 2015
edi287:

I think Dein messed up by not supporting the building of Emirates.
He failed to see the bigger picture and advantage of having a bigger Stadium. We had already outgrown Highbury anyways and Dein would've helped in raising investment for a new stadium (something which usmanov did not give a toss about).

Well usmanov has been frozen out and we have now paid off the stadium (almost)

Wenger is the defacto CEO

He sanctioned the employment of Gazidis
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by hariorh: 7:40pm On Dec 03, 2015
4llerbuntu:


How many players are in the Arsenal First Team squad this year?

How many players are in your rival first team?

Its time to start backing up your moans with stats and facts

Your point being?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:42pm On Dec 03, 2015
edi287:

I think Dein messed up by not supporting the building of Emirates.
He failed to see the bigger picture and advantage of having a bigger Stadium. We had already outgrown Highbury anyways and Dein would've helped in raising investment for a new stadium (something which usmanov did not give a toss about).
nope..dein wanted us to win d epl or ucl b4 leaving Highbury so we can generate at least half of d money instead of been in debt..
Nd we were close, we may av achieve it if dein av stayed but Wenger been over ambiguous convinced d board he can still lead d club to top flight football every season till d debt is paid.
Remember he also have share, so he av d right to disagree with some of d decisions d board take.
As for hugain nd mata its Wenger's fault...
For him to pay such money for özil nd sanchez
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:21am On Dec 04, 2015
pickabeau1:


Nope

Dein sold his shares to Usmanov and left the company because Fisman did not like Usmanov

Gazidis came much later about 2012 from the US to help the club with commercial deals.

Wenger was the defacto CEO with Fiszman for the four or five years


When Fisman died, Stan bought all the shares and brought Moneyball
Thanks for the education.

But, Gazidis took over Dein's role in 2008, Dein left Arsenal in 2007. Gazidis was brought in to see us through the debt which he did perfectly with AW keeping us in the UCL and selling our talents.

Dein left because he did not want to compromise our title ambitions for a new stadium, he wanted foreign takeover especially from Usmanov (he eventually sold to Usmanov and began heading his interest in Arsenal for like 3years).

If Dein had his way, Usmanov would be owner and we would not have gone 10years without winning the EPL.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 5:56am On Dec 04, 2015
Spy360:
Thanks for the education.

But, Gazidis took over Dein's role in 2008, Dein left Arsenal in 2007. Gazidis was brought in to see us through the debt which he did perfectly with AW keeping us in the UCL and selling our talents.

Dein left because he did not want to compromise our title ambitions for a new stadium, he wanted foreign takeover especially from Usmanov (he eventually sold to Usmanov and began heading his interest in Arsenal for like 3years).

If Dein had his way, Usmanov would be owner and we would not have gone 10years without winning the EPL.

Thanks for d clarification on the timelines

Well...you can't say if arsenal would have win EPL but a better chance


The stadium move is a good move...and I support it however that is not the only reason for the uncompetitiveness

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:16am On Dec 04, 2015
pickabeau1:


Thanks for d clarification on the timelines

Well...you can't say if arsenal would have win EPL but a better chance


The stadium move is a good move...and I support it however that is not the only reason for the uncompetitiveness
Yes, a new stadium did actually make us bigger than Spurs and even Chelsea.

You were right about Kroenke, I suspect that guy is not a football fan and gives no hoot about us winning titles. He loves AW because he saves him money.

This season provides a huge opportunity with Chelsea out of the mix and Leicester easy push overs.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:48am On Dec 04, 2015
In d end, Wenger is d culprit ....d mumu board over trust him, so tey he Dan day over use am....
because he fulfill his promise wen d stadium debt was been paid doesn't mean we shdnt compete wit d best...d board needs to let him know he's not fully in charge oo, good riddance...
BTW Dortmund nd alt. Madrid ain't rich untill klopp nd Simone got dere respectively
So wetin d man do way be new thing
Every season we are always close until his arrogance nd self centered ruin it....
Dis season, we didn't even wait till its Feb ..
Afc shd be d best club in epl, we got everything...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 12:52pm On Dec 04, 2015
Spy360:
Yes, a new stadium did actually make us bigger than Spurs and even Chelsea.

You were right about Kroenke, I suspect that guy is not a football fan and gives no hoot about us winning titles. He loves AW because he saves him money.

This season provides a huge opportunity with Chelsea out of the mix and Leicester easy push overs.

opportunity for what exactly?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 1:20pm On Dec 04, 2015
pickabeau1:


opportunity for what exactly?
foutrophy
grin grin grin
Abeg dis season is already over jo without even reaching Feb..
But we can really get d ultimate price if d man spend big..
I mean really big..
We can make a crazy deal to get bender, in short burn dis league down is d best place to get our players in Jan...
Or I'm thinking can Wenger give Joel nd aliade to Leicester on loan nd bid for vardy nd mahrez..sounds like a bargain
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 2:19pm On Dec 04, 2015
sod09:
foutrophy
grin grin grin
Abeg dis season is already over jo without even reaching Feb..
But we can really get d ultimate price if d man spend big..
I mean really big..
We can make a crazy deal to get bender, in short burn dis league down is d best place to get our players in Jan...
Or I'm thinking can Wenger give Joel nd aliade to Leicester on loan nd bid for vardy nd mahrez..sounds like a bargain

fourphy


Nothing will happen

All players will come back in Feb/March LIKE A NEW SIGNING

(LANS)


811 INJURIES IN 11 YEARS.. shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Since the 2003/4 season the North London club have been hit with 831 injuries – or an injury every five days.
And betting site Paddy Power have pointed out that 'there’s an average of 47 injuries a year in Spanish bullfighting events – an average of an injury every eight days. Yes that’s right, it’s statistically better for your health to choose bullfighting over playing for Arsenal.'







'Sanchez is adamant he felt fine. If I have to take the blame I do. It was not an obvious mistake. But Wenger has defended his side's medical record. 'We have tests. We have medical tests. We are quite sophisticated in testing our players. I had a chat with Sanchez after the game. We test them every week.'


MAYBE HE PAID FOR LOW QUALITY DOCTORS undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 2:32pm On Dec 04, 2015
pickabeau1:


fourphy


Nothing will happen

All players will come back in Feb/March LIKE A NEW SIGNING

(LANS)


811 INJURIES IN 11 YEARS.. shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Since the 2003/4 season the North London club have been hit with 831 injuries – or an injury every five days.
And betting site Paddy Power have pointed out that 'there’s an average of 47 injuries a year in Spanish bullfighting events – an average of an injury every eight days. Yes that’s right, it’s statistically better for your health to choose bullfighting over playing for Arsenal.'









MAYBE HE PAID FOR LOW QUALITY DOCTORS undecided

or maybe he is d doctor....
AW jack of all trade....
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 5:37pm On Dec 04, 2015
hariorh:


Your point being?

th point is that you should answer the question and put up a defence for your pathetic moans in light of the cold hard facts
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 5:44pm On Dec 04, 2015
AS USUAL, You lot will just come here to moan about things without considering what the reality is.


If the injuries are Wengers fault, then by now LvG and Pellegrini should be hung and quartered for their squads....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6777100/arsenal-do-not-have-worst-premier-league-injury-record.html

ARSENAL’S injury woes have been blamed for the club failing to win a single Premier League game in November — but new data has revealed that Arsene Wenger has had it easy compared to Manchester City and Manchester United this season.

Arsenal players have picked up 24 injuries since August, which slightly exceeds the league average of 20.45.

But City have had to cope with an eye-watering 35 injuries since their opening day win against West Brom.


Key players such as Vincent Kompany, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero and even goalkeeper Joe Hart have struggled to maintain fitness, but City have been able to perform more consistently than Arsenal and currently lead them by two points at the top of the table.

Manchester United, with 29 separate injury complaints, have also lost more players since the start of the season than the Gunners, whose injury concerns have only become a notable concern in more recent weeks.

Wenger has 10 players ruled out for Saturday’s match against Sunderland — the second highest figure in the Premier League after Bournemouth — with Francis Coquelin, Danny Welbeck and Tomas Rosicky not expected back until 2016.



But the total sum of days Arsenal players have lost to injury stands at just 312 days — the seventh lowest figure in the league.

It is also far lower than Arsenal’s figure at this stage last season, which stood at an incredible 1278 days, and puts Wenger under even more pressure at the Emirates.

Newcastle United are the unlucky team that tops the ‘days out through injury’ table, and injuries have undoubtedly contributed to the Magpies making their worst ever start to a Premier League season....................................................................................


Clearly the Medical team are doing such a bad job that the injuries are decreasing Year on Year.

Ukwu Sample supportership.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 5:52pm On Dec 04, 2015
Crap
Arrant nonsense......
Even if u Depend on some stupid news.
U not blind are u
Aw many afc players are on d medical lists
Aw many city or manure players are on d medical lists??
Get ur facts right
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:22pm On Dec 04, 2015
Crappola


Why not make a rebuttal based on facts



831 injuries in 11 years - fact


From your article... is this normal?
Why not provide the stats for the last 5 years....


But the total sum of days Arsenal players have lost to injury stands at just 312 days — the seventh lowest figure in the league.
It is also far lower than Arsenal’s figure at this stage last season, which stood at an incredible 1278 days, and puts Wenger under even more pressure at the Emirates.
Arsenal players have picked up 24 injuries since August, which slightly exceeds the league average of 20.45.


http://www.espnfc.com.ng/arsenal/story/2065310/arsenal-players-suffered-almost-900-injuries-in-12-years-study

Since 2002 (As at Oct 2014)

Arsenal - 882
United - 792 for Manchester United
620 for Chelsea
551 for Liverpool.

See link http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/clubs/1/arsenal_injuries.html
So many injuries
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by hariorh: 7:44pm On Dec 04, 2015
4llerbuntu:


th point is that you should answer the question and put up a defence for your pathetic moans in light of the cold hard facts

What facts exactly?

Why so feisty?
Didn't know my moans are giving you labour pains... cheesy

Stick close to my mentions uncle.

More wailing to come tongue
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:56pm On Dec 04, 2015
But seriously tho. Wats wit Arsenal and Injuries?? Even Welbeck that hardly got injured at United and hasn't even played up to two yrs for u pple probably hasn't kicked a ball in 5 months...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by hariorh: 8:10pm On Dec 04, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
But seriously tho. Wats wit Arsenal and Injuries?? Even Welbeck that hardly got injured at United and hasn't even played up to two yrs for u pple probably hasn't kicked a ball in 5 months...

Our medical team is the cheapest in Europe.

Won't be surprised if dem be undergraduate and interns
sef
grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:00pm On Dec 04, 2015
hariorh:


Our medical team is the cheapest in Europe.

Won't be surprised if dem be undergraduate and interns
sef
grin


School leavers
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 11:21pm On Dec 04, 2015
hariorh:


Our medical team is the cheapest in Europe.

Won't be surprised if dem be undergraduate and interns
sef
grin
pickabeau1:

School leavers
Y'all mean Shad Forsythe?

C'mon mehn!

We know we still have the worst injuries in the world but then we tried to improve by getting the best physios in the world- yes in the world. Check it out.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 5:45am On Dec 05, 2015
Spy360:
Y'all mean Shad Forsythe?

C'mon mehn!

We know we still have the worst injuries in the world but then we tried to improve by getting the best physios in the world- yes in the world. Check it out.


Super Shad grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:41am On Dec 05, 2015
pickabeau1:



Super Shad grin
Nna mehn to be candid e be like say Shad na waste of money- no shanges - changes.

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