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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 12:34am On Dec 04, 2015 |
GooseBaba: There is a way out. Some scientists cut to the chase and claim the universe is eternal! If it is eternal then they are not obligated to explain its Origin seeing it's always been! The smarter ones know the universe is a giant clock and it's been unwinding meaning it STARTED wound at a specific time t which is totally against the notion of eternity. Only deranged m0rons think the universe is eternal. Genesis certainly tells us it had a beginning. 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 1:16am On Dec 04, 2015 |
vooks: A lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Again I would say do try and be civil, it appears to be a difficult thing for you. Where exactly have I stated that matter created itself ? Let's think. You seem to have a never-ending source of clichéd answers. It is not an assumption that Boson exists. Read my previous post properly it should be apparent to you that my thrust with respect to the Boson was in regards to experimentation with its building blocks and their relationship to gravity in order to quantify how Matter forms, it is on-going. I have made no mention of a God Particle, it is meaningless in this context. The fact that it is the product of the decay of the Boson that is observed is neither here nor there, the absolute majority of known chemical elements were observed and discovered by the products of their decay or various other signatures, what exactly is your point ? You forgot to add that your claim that God is the uncaused cause is neither verifiable nor quantifiable. You really are starting out from a losing position and bluster does not help. Were you to successfully invalidate the Big Bang theory (which you haven’t done) it does not by default validate the biblical accounts as absolute statements of fact. Every religion has its creation story, non more valid than the other, all lacking empirical evidence and amounting to little more than a howl at the moon. Thousands of years ago, some wise men figured that the universe does not exist due to chance; it is too orderly and exhibits design so much that it can't be due to random processes. Thus, 'In the beginning God....' Well, thousands of years ago your wise men decreed that the earth was flat. How did that work out for you? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 4:39am On Dec 04, 2015 |
[size=1pt] Sarassin:[/size] Intelligent design is the most sensible thing a primate can believe in. That is the point. Chiding theism is ignorance incarnate 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 11:32am On Dec 04, 2015 |
vooks: The most sensible thing to a thief is to steal. As you can see, your sensibilities are rather subjective. Like many religious revenants, you have nothing to offer besides a windbag and foul language. Have a nice life. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 11:58am On Dec 04, 2015 |
Sarassin:I have the best life but thank you for your wishes. Let m know when you are ready so I can school you on Higgs boson. Food for thought How does 'discovery' of this boson advance the cause for naturalism or Big Bang? |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Judas2013: 4:45pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by samsard(m): 5:11pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
[quote author=Judas2013 post=40687231][/quote] the bolded was probably stupid of him. 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 5:51pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness: In the Scientific community, we have those that are plagued with ignorance and those that are not. Those plagued with ignorance are those that are constantly rejecting the concept of God. Even, the great scientist of the past belive in God so well that they attributed their breakthroughs to God. For example, when the first astronauts landed on the surface of the moon, one of them (Aldrin),, on a telephone conversation said "everyone should began to thank GOD in their own way" because they believe so well their successfull landing on the moon is not by their scientific knowledge. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 6:02pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
moffymichael: To make your point worth a reply next time,you will need to explain how a god helped the astronauts land on the moon. Lets no forget there were many failed tries before they finally landed on the moon successfully. Besides the concept of the word "god" came from religion,not science. And so far religion hasn't invented anything useful to humans. 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 6:45pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness: Now, let me enlighten my anti-God scientists with just some simple clarifications. Science is only bound to the physical planes. All the billions of galaxies, planets, stars etc are all within this plane, of which there are still other planes that does exist that is why scientist will never believe any explanation from another realm, cos its only limited to its own Physical realm. Now lets assume "GOD" to be an "Unknown factor" (which is logically true to scientists). In the scientific explanation of the theory of evolution, there is always an unknown factor. The "unknown factor" in this context are phenomeons or occurrences that cant be explained by science. For example, the big bang theory holds that the universe evolved from an extremely dense and hot state called the planck epoch, but could not explain the evolution of the planck epoch, that means its an "unknown factor". The unknown factor here represents God which is at infinity and unknown, He has no beginning and has no end. The formation of the planets, stars and galaxies are just mere obedience of God's commandment. He created the physical plane with just a mere spoken word. I believe I have made some points to you. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 6:49pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 7:03pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
moffymichael: You know what? You just shot yourself on the foot. I asked for evidence,instead you are assuming . You need to tell me how the astronauts landed on the moon with the help of a god. Science is not bound to the physical,the bible gods were physical and I can give lots of examples and proof they were very much physical Anything unknown is non-existent until it is known. A Doctor cannot assume a patient have AIDS without running a blood test. I would advice you to stop assuming the unknown since you do not have any shred of knowledge about it. As far as we know today,it is impossible for the planet,moon,stars to have a creator. Until further notice,your points are not valid. Thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Judas2013: 7:07pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 7:14pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness: Ignoramus, What have you invented so far that is useful to humans? Does that make you worthless? It does, you are not even worth the urn that will carry your remains after we cremate yout sorry ass Christianity is not science of enquiry so not discovering anything is moot. But you should follow modern scientific feats and realize they followed Christianity. Christianity did provide a solid framework for development of science 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 7:15pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
vooks: You need to stop being abusive if you want people to take you serious enough to give you a reply. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 7:17pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness:So is dark matter and antiparticles non-existent? As far as we know today,it is impossible for the planet,moon,stars to have a creator. Until further notice,your points are not valid.WHY is it 'impossible'? |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 7:18pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness:Am very polite What have YOU invented useful or useless? |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Judas2013: 7:20pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
hmmm 1 Like
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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 7:28pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Judas2013:You are an idle jester not one worth debating |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 7:35pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness: You got it all wrong by saying science is not bound to the physical realm, thats a blunder a basic science student would never make. God exists in the Higher planes far superior to the physical plane of science. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 7:45pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
moffymichael: Talking of Mathematics,I wonder if you do remember how ancient wild men got to know about mathematics. Can you recollect? As much as I wouldn't want to say too much. I hope you are aware that the bible gods were physical beings? They actually were phyical and not spirits. That's where you got your idea of god from. But actually they were like you and I. Science is an ancient knowledge that went underground due to religion. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 11:28pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
1feness:The gods you were describing above are based on Greek mythology. Those gods are NOT the true god. They are based on myths. The TRUE GOD is the GOD of the BIBLE. John 4;24 says "God is a SPIRIT and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth". Let me tell you brother, God is not a man, He is invisible, unsearchable, undescribable. He was not created neither was He created nor born. He has been existing even before the beginning began. He made all things, both visible and invisible. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 12:16am On Dec 05, 2015 |
moffymichael: You are talking about yourself then. We are eternal beings in a physical form. This is pure freemasonry. 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by plaetton: 8:36am On Dec 05, 2015 |
Sarassin: Lol@ windbag of hot air and foul language. I thought I was the only one who has taken notice. That dude is as vacuous as they come. He is consistently unable to articulate an original idea or argument. Just meaningless cliche's and ad hominems. 1 Like |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by vooks: 8:41am On Dec 05, 2015 |
plaetton:Good morning Amateur Septic(sic) |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by plaetton: 8:41am On Dec 05, 2015 |
moffymichael: Lol. This is an another Einstein moment. " the god that I believe in is the true god, because my bible says so ". Now, why hasn't anyone ever thought like this before ? What a genius you are. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by ELYMAXiimus(m): 3:29pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
johnydon22:maybe he doesn't belong to the science-sphere. But i think you underrated the theory too much by telling him to get "basic science" textbooks - he won't get any answer from them. You said those questions should be asked by primary school students, haba, i don't think even secondary students know anything about "the big bang theory". 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 2:46am On Dec 06, 2015 |
1feness:People have different conception about God: his existence, characteristics, his acts, relationship with humans, etc. A lot of people dwell in false conception about God, false belief about its origins, and ways of worship. But there is a particular path chosen by God Himself to serve as a standard means of reaching Him, anyone not on that path is on a wrong course. That path is JESUS. The Bible says in John 3;16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son to the world that whosoever believs in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life". Jesus is the only way through whch we can have access to the True God, every other ways are false. The son of God (Jesus) said: ""I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father(God) except through me." Jesus is the only to have access to God. Every other ways, system of belief are false. Brother, what you just need now is to give your life to Jesus Christ as your Lord and your saviour because thats the only way we can follow in order to have access to the True God. If you can be able to do this, you would be introduce to life in another plane higher than the plane of science. It is then you will realise that science is only there just to keep men busy in this world. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 9:53am On Jan 02, 2016 |
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Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 02, 2016 |
sukkot:funny how you twist the Bible. I'm a Christian please stop twisting the Bible Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. If the unclothedness wasn't literally why the sewing of fig leaves and... sukkot: truth be told bro I'm really disappointed @ the underlined. Hehehe if we're reincarnated beings then Christianity doesn't make any sense. Coz you can be righteous now, live, die reincarnate and become a sinner. If it happens that way how would you be judged? The past life where you were holy or the one you became a sinner |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by plaetton: 1:00pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
sukkot: The answers are quite simple. You should try to do more reading, sire. Every object in space is pulled in assumes a circular orbit around much bigger objects like planets and stars. It's gravity. Therefore, all objects in space, moons, moonlets, star dust, space debris, comets and meteors all have circular orbits around massive celestial bodies. Some objects like comets have circular or elliptical orbits that take them far beyond our solar system and back every several hundred years. Therefore, the frequency of comets or meteors depends on their orbital periods( which can be mathematically calculated using a simple formula) . Do, my friend, when you see the Geminid meteor showers between 7th and 17th as you pointed out, it only means that the orbital swing of those high velocity space rocks brings them to our celestial neighborhood around the second week every December Month. So, yes, you can say they are programmed, but only by the simple laws of PHYSICS, not by the Flying Spaghetti Monster or any intelligent being out there. In fact, if I were to hurl your fat cheeks into space at a certain day and at a certain angle, you would quickly establish your own orbit around the earth and appear every Christmas Eve as Santa Claus, black Santa Claus. |
Re: Look! God Caught By A Telescope Creating A New Planet by sukkot: 2:14pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
plaetton:very funny lolzzz . but ermmm you believe in that gravity nonsense ? that bullcrap has been proven to be all false. click on that link and pick whatever video you like. even neil de grasse tyson says that gravity nonsense is a hoax https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gravity+is+false |
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