TV01:

First, that is simply not true, the human race might not survive without it, but people will !
And it's not for "all of life"; not before puberty, or long after middle-age for most. If it was, we'd have to give it to babies.

TV01:

There is a best/aspirational setting for sexual congress - that is marriage. Earlier would help.

TV01:

I have no problem with this at an individual level, but a free-for all at a societal level will not end well.

TV01:

No, it won't define a woman, but it will certainly influence her as a wife - every man would take care to be considered about his own wife.

TV01:

You're having a laugh aren't you? Women are never responsible. They are vulnerable, naive, immature, victims ati be be lo....but never, ever resposible.

TV

pickabeau1:

Please help me out here

which is which

Your prior opinion and your current opinion?

I only read your aggressive debate against relationships between people where the age difference is significant

pickabeau1:


can u provide a link to your rebuttal

TV01:
Welcome - grab a seat, have a beverage !

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Mindfulness:
Where is your coherence Mr Slut / Single Mother / Divorcee Shamer? Does your religion not dictate that you should not judge others?

Mindfulness:

Where is your integrity when you don't call out on those who tell others to abstain from premarital s.ex and in the same breath say that they themselves don't have to?
Hypocrisy at its peak.

Mindfulness:


https://www.nairaland.com/2767714/sugabelly-rape-allegations/5#40540660

TV01:

You don;t know what "my religion" says. But Quelle surprise, you don't appear to know what your own religion says either !

As ever you struggle, flounder, fall flat, and then resort to pained ad hominem...please show me where I ever excused men from NSBM or excuse them when they fell short.

Better take advantage of your ban sharpish .


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Strawman:


Well thank you.

Apparently someone is using double of myself, I hope there is no problem here?

TV01:

That's a double strawman;

I said ATBE...guess what? non-virgins can be terrible wives, mothers, and managers of resources (they've already proven the last one se? )

And yes, there is more to being a wife than virginity, I made that point quite clearly. But having a body count of >2 for a woman increases the risk factor - at the very least. And, there is no evidence of a correlating effect for men - although I would question that.

...and who "she knacked", would have everything to do with who she is!

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pickabeau1:


ok

However on this case, i still believe she was below a reasonable age of consent -> 18

However the accounts show she was aware and not naïve

+++++
ON opinion, i asked you why you felt there should be no age of consent and then condemn those who marry/date older men

Mindfulness:


I have not condemned anyone.


I don't believe that an 18-year-old girl would want to marry a man who could be her grandpa. If she does, I am fine with it even though I see a lot of disadvantages.

pickabeau1:


ok.. this is now in line with your assertions that everyone is free to be whom they want to be/or do (as appropriate)

Mindfulness:


Everyone desires well-being and everyone deserves well-being. It is our most natural desire and everyone should take care of it in the first place. I stand by it.

Mindfulness:


A hypocrite is someone who expects others to have moral standards they themselves do not have.
Since you expect women to abstain from s.ex but you don't expect men, including you, to do the same, it is you who is CLEARLY the hypocrite here.

Simple logic. No excuses.

Timbuktou:


And I have said men should not be chaste? Stop arguing with yourself woman. You refuse to respond to questions thrown at you.. But for some weird reason you think you can ask questions of others. You cannot railroad us to accepting your opinions, you will convince us persuasive superior argument. If you're not here to argue but poo poo our thoughts I guarantee you're not welcome. This is no tampon yhread for those with no control over their menstrual hormones.

A40:

Which invariably makes them part of the problem. Cunning man will die and cunning man will always bury am, however the word scam implies innocence on the side of a party but when the participants are willing I do not think it is a scam anymore. I initially said earlier that a girl planning on holding body till marriage has no business dating a guy significantly older than her. What are the odds she won't be asked to bend her principles? For me I think the important thing is for a girl to give it up on her own terms this way she is less likely to feel resentful about it

Innocence ke? This is a fully grown man we are talking about here. Besides when you say virgin what do you really mean? Are you talking of a girl or guy who has done pretty much every other thing but the act of being penetrated or doing the penetration. I think the husband might have just been a bit naïve. This is why beyond virginity you need to also study the other person's personality. The idea of your first love and all that only matters as much as you let it, reality bites and at some point you have to snap out of it and welcome yourself to the real world.

Sugabelly's case is a weird and rather extreme one. She morphed from 'victim' to accomplice. At some point she had the power to completely free herself, she was in a different continent FFS. I wouldn't use that as a bullet point to avoid s€x before marriage. Everyone has their vice even the chaste girls, which one can you live with is the question?

Mindfulness:


I have unfettered liberty and sexual freedom whether you like it or not and I have been enjoying it very much.

I don't need your consent, support or help. I am very fine.

Shame me.

Mindfulness:


If you did, we wouldn't have the discussion here. All I saw on this thread here was a pity party of men who are whining about moral decadence in society but refusing to take any responsibility. It is always easier to blame others, isn't it?

BoboYekini:
What a shame.
On a side note, I happen to know a men's board (chateau hertiste) where replying a female post earns you a ban. Women can come and post/troll all they want, and everyone just ignores them. Hilarious

Strawman:

Yes, how may I help you?

Timbuktou:


Refusing to take which responsibility? Comprehension seems to be difficult. It's a cause and effect thing. You women wept for sexual liberty and were given after years of protest of your subjugation. Now, as men we can see that this thing is being freely distributed why not have oh own share of the largess? You think im going to be happy to marry a non-virgin when I saved myself? On this same nairaland we have heard women doing under-g when they were supposedly in no-sex relationships. Men have got wiser and frankly we know you lot are not to be trusted. If the gate is open I will enter freely. Thats the difference between mo gbo mo ya (gatecrashing) and strictly-by-invite parties. This party is a free for all banquet and society is paying for its lack of exclusivity. No chaste wants to marry an animashaun (free giver). Thats not even going into the details of what women really want in a partner.

Strawman:


Well thank you.

Apparently someone is using double of myself, I hope there is no problem here?

Mindfulness:


You want to have a share of something that leads to moral decadence according to you? Why do you complain then?

Mindfulness:


The bold text made a lot of sense.
You seemingly conclude that it doesn't make sense to say that God has no religion since the belief in God in itself is a religion. If what you say was right, God would believe in God's existence but wouldn't be sure whether God really exists. Does Crackhaus believe that he exists or does Crackhaus know that he exists?

God does not believe in God's existence. God is certain that God exists. So am I. Since religion is based on the belief that God exists , God can't have a religion because he knows instead of believing. So do I.

TV01:

You are most welcome.

No problem - unless your name is Mindfulness !


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crackhaus:

You're confusing yourself, ask me why please....

Indeed God does not have to believe he exists because he knows he does.. Now where does this leave Mindfulness?

From the little I know, Mindfulness is neither God nor was she born all-knowing.
Mindfulness has come to believe in the existence of God actively or passively through years of being exposed to religions and religious doctrines.

Mindfulness would rather have us think that she believes in God but does not have to follow a religious doctrine when in fact everything she now knows about God comes from the religion she so wants to detach herself from.

Believing in the existence of a deity my dear is religion, connecting to him in a way that gives you no-better feeling is you practising religion.

Why are you like this sef?
Confucianism is much better stuff for you to study...pun intended!

Mindfulness:


Didn't you say that it doesn't make sense to say that God has no religion? How can God have a religion when religion is based on the belief that God exists? Does God know that God exists or does God believe that God exists?

crackhaus:

God knows that he exists, he doesn't need to believe.

The million dollar question is,
Are you God?

pickabeau1:

SHAKI ti Babies


Where is crackhaus

I remember when he quoted lines from Bobo..

It made me look for the song

Mindfulness:


All of my actions have had wonderful consequences so far. I have no regrets, absolutely none.

Timbuktou:


So, what colour panties you wearing?

Mindfulness:


No, I am a Goddess.