soft777:
this my phone number sir ) 0033758786306

how far, still waiting for that your feed formulation write up you promised to post

soft777:
In water recycle system as in the case , with nigeria, light is not guarantee.
I will advice you have a tank , not that you cant do it direct ,but with a tank ,it does 4 major things , it helps send fresh water to your system by gravity even if you have no light , there by saving cost of energy , secondly , from time to time this cycle system still need additional 10 percent top up of fresh water to cover the loses due to evaporation . Thirdly it help your water settle better by adding little treatment to the tank in case you have very high or low ph. fourthly it helps save more time for the beneficial microb in your biofillter to work actively to break down the amonia properly before releasing same cycled water to your pond . So with these points its very very important to have a tank GOOD LUCK

thx for your reply sir.The issue of power is not a big issue here in Benin city as our light here is 3hrs on and 3hrs off and I think that would be enough to manage the system.But for that of the tank u talked about if the power is out there is no way the pump would pump water out of the pond,won't the water coming from the tank fill the pond and thereby causing overflow out of the pond.pls simply explain how the re circulatory works with the system,thxz

Need 2 knw may b a well rim can b use for d fish rearing for a small scaled type. pls need an answer on dis

robonski15:


Hello ma, we are making sure booking and delivery are accelerated.. We are improving on that.. Thanks

sure boss! Glad to hear that, I will definitely place another order this month (God's willing). More power to your elbow!!

kiwonkifi:
I just started trying ideal feeds (along kubwa expressway beside s&m motors which is after the conoil after news engineering dawaki). Can't say much about the quality but you can check them out to formulate yours or buy their pre-packed bags.

I have been unable to locate the feed mill along that axis. Do you know whether they pelletise for people? Can you send me their contact?

FEED This is the most expensive and broad part of the business, but i believe its the most simplest aspect of fish farming if we get it right . For better understanding i will divide this topic in to 3 sub topic .INGREDIENTS IDENTIFICATION , HOW TO COMPOUND AND PELLET THE INGREDIENTS and HOW AND WHEN TO FEED YOUR FISHES :
But before we start , i will quickly chip in ,the most singular but very effective part of fish farming is seed procurement. Please and please your source of fingerlings is very important , dont accept normal fingerlings, always request healthy first or at most 2nd set shooter ,ensure the hatchery use the write size and age of parents brood , because the wrong doing of any hatchery is the lost of the growers farmer, or else , return the fish back ,because no matter the management you can never get result , its outright lost .No need to waste money ,energy and time .
Buy from reputable hatcheries with good management track record ,people like prof robonski and other eligible hatchries around. Distance and time should not be the problem, better you go throw the stress and time of getting good seeds than throwing your money away ,its more than important to get good healthy rugged fast growing fingerlings before spending money on feed.
Having this in mind , i see on this tread and others that i have consulted for privately , tend to miss up this sub topic
INGREDIENT
1, Fish require balance diet which are majorly starch or carbohydrates , proteins .vitamins , minerals , fats and oil, these ingredients are readily available all around us , but we seems not to see it .
2, I see people asking formula , its not reliable to take maybe my formula which is cheaper and more economical for me in the west and a farmer living in the north wants to use same feed formula just because am using it , knowing the fact that the , said ingredients, for my formula is not readily available in his or her own locality . My advice are we make what is called relative feed formula, or economical formula .
Let me further elaborate...You see, kg of cassava in the west could be for example 50 naira per kg and price of cassava in the north could be 100 naira per kg , so for you in the west cassava is relatively cheaper in your location than the farmer at north .
So adviseing such farmer to use your own formula , farming in a different location may not be economical to another farmer in a different location . If you are not careful ,you may end up formulating feed that is more expensive than the costlier foreign feed.
3,Using same nutrient at same time in same feed formula ,i have seen some very outrageous formulas ,they are un necessary expensive and waste of money , how can u have cassava flour and wheat flour in same feed formula , when they are both starch , or have corn and indomie in same feed formula when they are both starch , or have pkc and vegetable oil in same feed when they are both source of oil , lets use one ingredient nutrient at a time to save cost .
4,Be carefull with some feed mill operators , who will want to give you countless ingredients to buy from them,they may be using you just to sell there products .
With good four ingredients and mineral premix , a good super growth fish feed formula can be made.
5,list of easy ingredients... STARCH OR CARBOHYDRATES: cassava flour , cassava roots , koko garri, corn , potatoe leaves , brewres waste, wheat flour , rice bran, wheat bran , molasses etc
ANIMAL PROTEIN : Fish meal, chicken intestine or offal, blood meal, feather meal, poultry hatchery waste , baby pigs , milk waste or bevrages waste, bone meal etc
PLANT PROTEN : soya bean meal or cake , groundnut cake , cotton seedcake , any tuber crop leaves eg cassava leaves ,potatoe leaves , duck weed , algeaetc
PREMIX :Broiler starter , vtamn premix, mineral premx enzymes , etc
,bone meal,
FATS AND OIL : Palm karnel cake P:K:C: , groundnut oil , coton seed oil, vegetable oil ,
LIVE FEED : maggot , tilapia fries , brine shrimp fries, daphna , zoplanktons , termites , all types of ants , deform livestock babies etc. But most live feed are used for smaller fishes , like fingerlings and juveniles , but for bigger fishes live food is used as supplementary feed or used to mix your feed ingredients to compound .
In the next sub topic on how to compound, i will treat how to mix each feed and compound HAPPY FISHING AND GOD BLESS OUR WORK !!!!

@Soft777, you are doing a very great work here, as you've opened the eyes of many to the mysteries surrounding profitable catfish farming. Feeding sinking feed can be very trickish.

I used to feed floating immediately after feeding sinking feed and the fish still devour it.

Does it mean i've been underfeeding them with sinking feed, or my sinking is not palatable enough?

@soft777. nice one, waiting for next episode

HOW TO COMPOUND AND PELLET INGREDIENTS : After successfully identifying which ingredients are cheaper in your location , then the next step is to know at what percentage in kg will u need to mix the ingredients up, to get the right amount of balance diet for your fish.
first you need to know , the crude protein needed by your fish to get to 1kg , in the shortest time possible ,with the lowest fcr.This will automatically determine your profit.let me elaborate for further understanding , i want us to look at it in another way, since feed takes almost 70 percent of our cost of production , we want to see how we can take these cheap waste ingredients put them together in kg to give us same amount in kg in our fish .
What we do in fish farming is just converting feed which are cheap ingredients not really needded by humans and sold in little amount to something more needed by humans that is fish, and more valuable and higher in price. So the lower the amount in money of quality feed ingredients the better or bigger your profits.
Now having this in mind, i will elaborate further , when compounding your feed select the cheapest ingredients in your location from each of the nutrients and compound them together : In money term , i will use kwara state ,someone i helped with formulation on my whats app, gave me some rough estimate of price ingredients in his locality ... CARBOHYDRATE : maize 80 naira per kg , cassava flour 70 naira per kg , indomie 90 naira per kg , PLANT PROTEIN : soya is 140 naira per kg , potatoe leaves meal is 40 naira per kg , groundnut meal 120 naira per kg , ANIMAL PROTEIN : blood meal 70 naira per kg , fish meal 150 naira per kg , chicken offal 100 naira per kg , FATS AND OIL : groundnut oil 50 naira , pkc 40 naira :
Now using this price list, you can now look carefully taking each cheapest ingredients in each nutrients and compound , having in mind that your catfish needs about 30 to 35 percent crude protein to get good growth and fingerlings and smaller fish needs 40 to 45 crude to grow .NOTE , if u are blessed to be close to a chicken processing plant were you can get chicken offal at wholesale and cheap amount , then you can feed your fish at higher crude protein even up to 60 percent , to increase there growth and get to 1kg size in even 3 month 2 weeks , lets go back to our calculation . from this particular list ...CARBOHYDRATE ,i will take cassava at 70 naira , for PLANT PROTEIN ,i take potatoes leave meal but for this calculation i will take soya meal , why because i know most people get soya easily, so soya 140 naira per kg , : ANIMAL PROTEIN we take blood meal which is 70 naira per kg, ANOTHER THING TO NOTE : if you are not using fish meal make sure u get fish oil to spray your feed after pelleting to make the feed more palatable for your fish to eat, because most fish tend not to like blood meal, but when you mix it with other ingredients and pellet ,spray with fish oil ,they will eat ruggedly.
Blood meal has the highest crude protein more than the costly fish meal , but u dont need to add too much blood meal , just because it makes fish grow big and fast in a shorter time .you have to mix at the required percentage.
Lets continue FATS AND OIL :pkc 40 naira per kg
With these prices we can now do our calculations , cassava 70 naira , soya 140 naira , blood meal 70 naira, pkc 40naira now if we get the average amount per kg , adding all the 4 prices = 70 plus 70 plus 40 plus 140 = 320 then divide by 4 we get 80 naira means we get the range of 80 naira per kg . that is if we are adding all the ingredients in equal percentages which i personally do when am compounding finisher feed , for my fish that are close to market . NOTE BY , yellow corn and pkc will help increase your fish weight.
But this is not finished , the 80 naira per kg is for the four major ingredients so adding vitamin premix ,fish oil , floxinor , salt dpc etc , is about 20 naira average . So 80 plus 20 will give us 100 naira per kg , so if u are making 100 kg feed you need 100 naira multiply by 100kg feed this will amount to 10 thousand naira for 100kg feed.
Lets say grounding, pellet and drying will give u about 3k so total u should be in the range of 13 thousand for complete 100kg finisher catfish feed . This is finisher feed , for growers feed you increase the plant and animal protein most especially your animal protein ,
Instead of that ratio 25 :25:25:25 for finisher , for growers feed its a little more expensive, because of the more expensive protein ingredient you need to increase .
So for growers i want us to know that we dont need pkc when making growers feed ,pkc is better when you are doing finisher feed , so as not to retard or slow your fish growth, because pkc will make your fish gain much weight , without flesh gain . This will lead to stunted growth, because pkc give high energy .
But you can increase protein as u want , you can even feed only protein if you know how to and have a very cheap source to buy , but i will give a general ratio, increase your protein either plant or animal protein to replace the pkc.
To know which of the protein to replace the pkc in growers better and more economical
From this our particular list the blood meal, animal protein is cheaper but because for every 100 kg feed i dont advice more than 30 kg blood meal , so its either we replace the pkc with other chaeper animal or plant protein , so if u have the cheaper local fish meal , you can use , its ok , or buy some cheaper plant protein .
So for reducing your total cost of production especially for medium scale farm from 5k monthly grow out to larger scale fish farms , you can buy your ingredients in bulk,i mean wholesale , they will sell at reduced price or if you fish in acomunity of many fish farmers you can form a group and buy fish feed ingredients in bulk . And you can have a mini feed mill, it will further cut that 12,000 naira for 100 kg feed to 9000 naira .
This is why larger farms maximize profit and even sell cheaper but no problems by GOds grace everybody will get there, with determination and focus , taking it step by step growth in fish farming is sure . A journey of a thousand mile start with a step.
Now lets compare prize differences between local and foreign feed .
Now local feed 100 kg with crude protein 35 to 40 percent gives 12k naira to compound , and a foreign feed with 5k average price for 15 kg will give approximately 33 naira for 100kg , looking at the difference in price we have about 20 thousand naira different .
For someone with high capacity farm that feed more than 100 kg feed weekly. Think when you have to save extra 20 k weekly as extra profit.
Now for further reduction; that can make your 100 kg feed amount reduce to 7 thousand naira from 12 thousand naira.
I will give more elaborations when we start our trainnings in my farm from febuary . Things like how to personally turn free cassava root to carbohydrate , how to process that unwanted free algea to plant protein and reduce your feed cost , how to process that free duck weed in your pond to replace plant protein, how to culture non smelling maggot to replace animal protein , i mean odourless maggot , and how to make semi floating feed and gelatine based feed ...In fact gelatin based feed can reduce ur cost more further to 6 to 5 k nira for 100 kg feed , because you need no pelleting no drying and it floats on your ponds , if you are interested in all these and live demonstration a 1 day workshop in my farm weekly , will be organised , from febuary 2016 and inetrested persons farmers or co-operations will gain more in feeding , hatching , super intensive system, fish processing , pond construction , nursery best managements etc . Its a 1 day fish total package . i will announce starting date very soon and you can always call to reserve weekly, from febuary thank you
Any questions on feed here , i will gladly answer thank you , later tonight i will post the last sub topic on ( FEEDING WHEN AND HOW ) STAY TUNED GOD BLESS!!!!!!

Ttalk:
@Soft777, you are doing a very great work here, as you've opened the eyes of many to the mysteries surrounding profitable catfish farming. Feeding sinking feed can be very trickish.

I used to feed floating immediately after feeding sinking feed and the fish still devour it.

Does it mean i've been underfeeding them with sinking feed, or my sinking is not palatable enough?

answer to your question will be on the last sub topic FEEDING HOW AND WHEN check back tonight for my post

herlonso:
Need 2 knw may b a well rim can b use for d fish rearing for a small scaled type. pls need an answer on dis

YOFOU CANT DO ANY GOOD FISH FARMING IN A WELL IF SPACE IS THE PB ; GET A TAPOLIN POND ; PLASTC POND OR WOODEN VATS CHEAPER AND MORE ECONOMICAL FOR A STARTER GOD BLESS

robonski15:


U can send me a mail robonski15@gmail.com or whatsapp 08061682047..Thanks

Dear Sir Robonski my hubby has sent msg to your phone since past 6 am this morning but no reply from you. We know you are busy. Please do get in touch. Thanks.

fish farmer manager is needed in a new farm located in abuja. The candidate must have a proven track record of managing a farm successfully. if interested kindly send a message to ceegee22000@yahoo.com and we will get back to you.

@robonski15

Hello Sir,
Payment for 3500 fingerly is about being made, please confirm that this acc detail is correct: Acc name: Ijey Sylvester, Acc no: 2023424735. Lastly delivery to Uyo will take how many days from payment. Pls revert ASAP. Thanks

eseosa77:


thx for your reply sir.The issue of power is not a big issue here in Benin city as our light here is 3hrs on and 3hrs off and I think that would be enough to manage the system.But for that of the tank u talked about if the power is out there is no way the pump would pump water out of the pond,won't the water coming from the tank fill the pond and thereby causing overflow out of the pond.pls simply explain how the re circulatory works with the system,thxz

I WILL TREAT A TOPIC ON ALL THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, MANAGEMENT , COST ,ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF ALL SYSTEM ;But i will partially brush through the recycleatry system for your quick understanding ,
Recyle system, is a system designed most especially when u have limited water , limited irrigation , good power source and you want to stock almost times 5 the normal carrying capacity of your pond .
Biofillter comes in difefrent capacities but most imported biofilletrs can carry little hatcheries or little farms , even in advance countries they do what they call ,DO IT YOURSELF system or D:I:Y: system .
This diy system is better in that you can easily expand or reduce , that is adjustable. The system depending on your quantity of fish , now let me take u through in a summary ,I personally call recycle system as an advanced flow throw . its the same thing i explained on topic aquaponics .
The bad water from your pond, instead of just flowing it away you take it though different chambers to purify the water and back to ur fish , thesse chambers contains biological materials thats were the name comes from BIOfillter , using a biological means or living things in your chambers to purify your water system.
Your bad water are realesed out from your pond , it goes to a sedimentation chamber or a conditioned chamber to settle the undissolved solids like algea and fish poo, gradually .
The water is then pumped to another chamber were the micro organism in the water or chamber will further break the amonia to nitrates and then the nitrates concentrated water is passed through the 3rd chamber to were we have plants or activated carbon material like charcoal that will absorbs the nitrates and make the water free of nitrates , making your water pure , but in the process not the total volume of water will be retrieve. You will need to add water at least 10 percent more volume to replace the evaporated water in the ponds or chambers .That is why, i said you need a tank , but if u have constant electricity as you said , no pb, all good. but for rest of mind , what if electricity did not come , what will happen?
Well am pleased to inform you that with my advance improvised DIy system i can install it in your pond or farm , you will not need electricity to pump water,you will not need water pump ,i can install it in a way that you will run it by gravity a self running and self purifying system without you , you can travel and leave your pond for months and the system will continue to recycle without electricity ,but u will definately need who just go thereto feed ,or if you can buy automatic time feeder , which feeds your fish at at regulated time without your presence , fasmers who do other jobs usually need this. By febuary if you are interested , you can contact me i will install the DIY self cycle and self purifying in your farm .
My farm has the knowledge of this new technology thank you. GOOD LUCK

robonski15:
I have assigned someone with a permanent duty of sending fingerlings/juvenile to any location in Nigeria. We can now supply to any location with a MINIMUM ORDER OF 1,000 fingerlings/juvenile for all to benefit.. No more 3000 minimum order.. Thanks

Hello Sir,
Payment for 3500 fingerly is about being made, please confirm that this acc detail is correct: Acc name: Ijey Sylvester, Acc no: 2023424735. Lastly delivery to Uyo will take how many days from payment. Pls revert ASAP. Thanks

What is the mean protein content of Soybean?
Some book says soyabeans contain 35%protein while other says its 48%, this has made the calculation of protein in feed formulation unstable

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@Mr. ROBONSKI Please I need you to clarify the prices of the catfish. Both for clarias and heterobranchus. Thanks.

Ttalk:
What is the mean protein content of Soybean?
Some book says soyabeans contain 35%protein while other says its 48%, this has made the calculation of protein in feed formulation unstable

THE crude protein ranges from mode of processing the meal and type of soya used . When you subject soya bean to much higher heat and pressure to get the the oil for human and the cake for animals . The protein content changes ,ts not the same protein calculated during un processes .
your final crude protein depends mostly on mode of processing , good soybean meal should be between the range of 40 to 45 percent protein

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robonski15:


Hello ma, i have gotten in touch with your hubby, and we have concluded.. Thanks

Hello Sir, I need to be sure; please respond, have been waiting. Thanks

robonski15:


Hello sir can you post a picture of the pond?.. Thanks

been trying to post the pic,but network wouldn't allow.maybe if I can send it to you somehow or somewhere else?

@ soft777.
Thank you for the recipe on fish feed. Pls, the cassava flour you referred to in the formulation, is it Gaari or the cassava flour used for bread making? Thank you.

yoHighness:
been trying to post the pic,but network wouldn't allow.maybe if I can send it to you somehow or somewhere else?

I sent it to yours Whatsapp

yoHighness:
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