Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,205,691 members, 7,993,447 topics. Date: Monday, 04 November 2024 at 12:28 PM

Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet - Politics (2) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet (24666 Views)

Buhari's "Emergency Power" Quest; Tyranny + Absolutism Not A Democratic Tenet. / Rule 9 Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet - Tonyebarcanista / Protest Against Social Media Bill Heading To National Assemby (Photos) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) ... (13) (Go Down)

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Anasko(m): 10:58pm On Dec 10, 2015
joblessness is worrying this Tonye. despite all your campaign for pdp. they never dash you a job. na wa for u.

1 Like

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ambassadorgozie(m): 10:58pm On Dec 10, 2015
Not in support of biafra but am totally disappointed nd gutted by Seun's action..its unprofessional,undiplomatic nd uncalled for!

3 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 10:59pm On Dec 10, 2015
The owner of the site said he doesn't want to see anything biafra on his forum, what's your problem O.P

5 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Andyblaze: 10:59pm On Dec 10, 2015
Na wa oo


Let's all download this song for 1 Nigeria - https://my.notjustok.com/track/download/id/52806
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 10:59pm On Dec 10, 2015
My point exactly..

People should be allowed to express their minds. even if it might threaten what we think is national security. because if we continue to repress them, it might result in an unexpected explosion of violence.

4 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 11:01pm On Dec 10, 2015
ambassadorgozie:
Not in support of biafra but am totally disappointed nd gutted by Seun's action..its unprofessional,undiplomatic nd uncalled for!
on his own site
His site, his rules!!!
So you never know freedom of speech has limit

1 Like

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:02pm On Dec 10, 2015
zinachidi:
Though i'm not in full support of this new law shaa, buh Seun isn't denying anybody freedom of anything, you can promote biafra all u want buh not on this forum, this forum is afterall his.. If he sees promoting Biafra as ''illegal'' which it isn't IMO, thats his opinion, and if u don't like it, u know where the ''de activate button is''

Freedom of speech dosen't mean u can call a soldier an idiot and get away with itgrin..

Anyways, this Biafra protest was termed legitimate by the FG and the UN also has laws supporting it, still don't know yhe thinls otherwise.
No one denied that it is his site. No one is threatening fire and brimstone either! I'm only pointing out that the amended rule is anti-democratic and inappropriate. A site like Nairaland that pride as a social forum can't come up with anti-social and anti-democratic rule.

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 11:02pm On Dec 10, 2015
I'm with seun on this.
Kindly open another forum or Blog for Biafra!!!

4 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by IamLEGEND1: 11:03pm On Dec 10, 2015
PrimeMinisterr:

.
.
.
.
just for the fact that you don't support the movement, doesn't make them stvpid nor bereft of ideas. We all should respect people's views and opinions. these biafran agitators didn't just wake up one day, screaming for secession My friend.
trust me...a year ago, most of them could care less about a sovereign state. We are all agitated and disturbed by the current state of our country but we are at least trying to make it work....TOGETHER!.

Most of them oldies who genuinely had a thing for Ojukwu & his cronies aren't on NL. the nuisance we're facing here are mostly young adults who just find the notion of secession alluring.

I understand ur angle,along with TonyeBarcanista about freedom of speech and all but I'm honestly with seun on this one. It's his forum & he doesn't want it being used as a propaganda-spitting machine.....So he has every right to ban the promotion of a cause that might turn out to be a genuine threat to national security.

22 Likes 3 Shares

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:04pm On Dec 10, 2015
Dongorgon5:
I'm with seun on this.
Kindly open another forum or Blog for Biafra!!!
I advice that you read the article


Anasko:
joblessness is worrying this Tonye. despite all your campaign for pdp. they never dash you a job. na wa for u.
I really need it bro...

1 Like

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by skyface00(m): 11:04pm On Dec 10, 2015
I don't know when private business turned to fight, if you company policy says No smoking during working hour, if it's doesn't work for you, the best you can do is to resign.

Just like freedom of expression also covered the owner of a property to chooses who stay and who doesn't

I can't remember when Nairaland becme anybody right or nigeria property, it's does cost much to host your own site and promote it and agitate what you believe.


U attack me sorry na your name because I won't reply u

20 Likes 4 Shares

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by zinachidi(m): 11:05pm On Dec 10, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

No one denied that it is his site. No one is threatening fire and brimstone either! I'm only pointing out that the amended rule is anti-democratic and inappropriate. A site like Nairaland that pride as a social forum can't come up with anti-social and anti-democratic rule.

ya, i also think the rule generally isn't fair. Na him sabi shaa. Gat berra things to worry about
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 11:08pm On Dec 10, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

I advice that you read the article



I really need it bro...
So, Why should I read it
His forum, His rule!!!
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by yapapa: 11:08pm On Dec 10, 2015
Adebowaletunji:

AM A YORUBA GAL AND I MUST SAY THAT THIS UR COMMENT IS NOT IN PLACE..THIS IS THE SAME THINGS WE ACCUSED THE IGBOS OF DOING AND YET DOING IT....IT IS NOT RIGHT!! YES IT IS NOT RIGHT AND I WONT JOIN THE REST OF IRRATIONAL YORUBAS TO MAKE MOCKERY OF COMMON SENSE..

IN UNITY OF NIGERIA I STAND BUT LIKE PROF WOLE SOYINKA I ALSO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE OF BIAFRA SHOULD BE LISTENED TO AND NOT SUBDUED..

WE CANT SIMPLY KILL THEIR IDEOLOGY AND THATS THE FACT..
MY PAIN IS THAT ALL MY FRIENDS HERE IN ABJ ARE ALL IGBOS AND WE FLOW VERY WELL
shutup my friend, I have a very good Igbo friend I can die for without a second thought..and I'm not against the deluded ones among them agitating for Biafra..but they are not doing in the right way.all there comments around here are mostly filled with hate speeches to d brim, insulting other tribes (mostly Yoruba's) even when its uncalled for... or u wanna tell me u were two blind to see...you now ranting like a mad dog talking about mockery.my friend go sleep, abeg.

7 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:09pm On Dec 10, 2015
Truckpusher:
I saw it and I knew that some persons are still very immature when it comes to the tenets of a true democracy but hey! I would rather sit this one out on the fence but freedom of expression, speech and right to self determination shouldn't be gagged under any circumstances.

I do expect the Biafran agitators to abandon Nairaland in protest - But these emotionally battered agitators won't see beyond the insult,bias, and deliberate attempt by the owner of Nairaland to gag a people's right to seek for redress in a democratic Nigeria in other to reflect the body language of the administration-cum military regime of Buhari.

Seun should dust up some books, read up and stop making Nairaland a mockery.
@bolded- what da fuq?
In my interest, by all means, I would want that Biafra part cut off. I would like to see the Biafra agitators' go all messy & bloody. I would like to see how much they can struggle, sweat profusely for this cause. And yet, verily, I assure them that they would be wide-eyed, watching their dream gradually slip away before they can even grasp it. Their frustration amuses me.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by princealexndre(m): 11:10pm On Dec 10, 2015
well i dont think biafra is a bad thing...it is going to better the government of nigeria...why?corrupt leaders are going to fetch dem self out by dere people....mangement of natural resources..biafra or no biafra nigeria is still going to move forward..
.GOD BLESS NIGERIA
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 11:10pm On Dec 10, 2015
IamLEGEND1:
trust me...a year ago, most of them could care less about a sovereign state. We are all agitated and disturbed by the current state of our country but we are at least trying to make it work....TOGETHER!.

Most of them oldies who genuinely had a thing for Ojukuwu & his cronies aren't on NL. the nuisance we're facing here are mostly young adults who just find the notion of secession alluring.

I understand ur angle,along with TonyeBarcanista about freedom of speech and all but I'm honestly with seun on this one. It's his forum & he doesn't want it being used as a propaganda-spitting machine.....So he has every right to ban the promotion of a cause that might turn out to be a genuine threat to national security.
I've alwayz admire you!!!
You're one Wise and Intelligent guy.

1 Like

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:15pm On Dec 10, 2015
IamLEGEND1:
trust me...a year ago, most of them could care less about a sovereign state. We are all agitated and disturbed by the current state of our country but we are at least trying to make it work....TOGETHER!.

Most of them oldies who genuinely had a thing for Ojukuwu & his cronies aren't on NL. the nuisance we're facing here are mostly young adults who just find the notion of secession alluring.

I understand ur angle,along with TonyeBarcanista about freedom of speech and all but I'm honestly with seun on this one. It's his forum & he doesn't want it being used as a propaganda-spitting machine.....So he has every right to ban the promotion of a cause that might turn out to be a genuine threat to national security.

Self determination is a right not a privilege. Irrespective of our own opinion, promotion of such right shouldn't be toyed with. Nairaland should be known as the site that allows people express themselves...

Of course, any threat to national security or people's security should be banned.

2 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by MathsChic(f): 11:16pm On Dec 10, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Let me first apologise for posting this on this section. This is because I have been restricted from posting on politics section due to ban given to me by one of your moderators.

The purpose of this thread is to call the attention of the Founder of Nairaland, Mr Seun Osewa over his decision to 'ban' the promotion of Biafran agitation on Nairaland.com. As most of us know, Rule 9 has been amended by the owner to reflect on the ban. Quoting the rule...


Though I am neither an Igboman nor one of the promoters of Biafra, I couldn't help but express displeasure in the rule because it violates Article 2 of United Nations Resolution on Self Determination (1960), Sections 35, 39 and 42 of the Constitution of Nigeria and also is in conflict with the principle of Social justice.

For avoidance of doubt, article 2 of the UN Resolution on Self-Determination states that...

All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

It clearly states that people should FREELY determine their status and freely pursue it.
The decision of Mr Seun has contravened this paragraph and it is not something we should celebrate.

Furthermore, Nigeria Constitution guarantee some rights to every citizen and group. Some of which include;

1. Right to personal liberty (Section 35): Every person is entitled to personal liberty.

2. Right to freedom of Expression (Section 39): Right to freedom of expression and the press is very fundamental to the sustenance of democracy

3. Right to freedom from discrimination (Section 42): No citizen of Nigeria shall be discriminated against on the basis of his community, ethnic group, place of origin, sex, religion or political opinion

All the aforementioned rights have been taken away by the amended rule 9 of Nairaland.com. Additionally, the decision of Mr Seun also contravenes the principle of social justice. For avoidance of doubt, Social justice is the view that everyone deserves equal economic, political and social rights and opportunities.

While I have been at the receiving end of some pro-Biafrans promoters in terms of insults and abuse, it won't make me to support what I know is against their fundamental right as Nigerians and citizens of the world.

It will be more appropriate for the moderators to take down content by agitators of Biafra that promotes hate, violence and support arson. However, they deserve the right to be expressive. Those of us that believe in a Nigeria will not hesitate to engage promoters of Biafra movement intellectually if it comes to that stage.

Yes, we love promoters of Biafrans and some people don't want the Igbo nation or any other nation to secede but it is inappropriate to shut their voices. We have to uphold the tenet of democracy in promoting our unity.



May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria.
I agree a 100%. You don't deprive people the right to express themselves, as long as they are not spewing hate.

1 Like

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by IamLEGEND1: 11:17pm On Dec 10, 2015
Dongorgon5:
I've alwayz admire you!!! You're one Wise and Intelligent guy.

2 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:19pm On Dec 10, 2015
MathsChic:

I agree a 100%. You don't deprive people the right to express themselves, as long as they are not spewing hate.

IamLEGEND1:
And then there is something called 'Public disturbance'

and honestly,that shít is very annoying,not to mention,stale.

also, those people screaming 'Biafra' are mostly empty-headed vagabonds who know nothing about the inner workings of this country.

They aimlessly follow whatever their masters say and keep spamming this forum with pointless comments.

You want to seceed but you insult people while doing it. You call southwest, South West. Yoruba, Yoruba its not really nice to know that people hate you that much. They spew so much hate that you start having phobia that once u are among Igbo people you can loose your life.

I've not seen any real reason for the agitation.

6 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Dongorgon5(m): 11:20pm On Dec 10, 2015
MathsChic:

I agree a 100%. You don't deprive people the right to express themselves, as long as they are not spewing hate.
They are spewing more than hate!!!
Just try and visit the politics section to see for urself.
This is his forum, he has every right to dictate what he wants on his forum, afterall we have lindaikeji and co.

5 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by IamLEGEND1: 11:20pm On Dec 10, 2015
MathsChic:

as long as they are not spewing hate.
I guess you haven't been reading most of the comments them folks been posting on here.it's just plain,unadulterated vitriol.

2 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:21pm On Dec 10, 2015
yapapa:
shutup my friend, I have a very good Igbo friend I can die for without a second thought..and I'm not against the deluded ones among them agitating for Biafra..but they are not doing in the right way.all there comments around here are mostly filled with hate speeches to d brim, insulting other tribes (mostly Yoruba's) even when its uncalled for... or u wanna tell me u were two blind to see...you now ranting like a mad dog talking about mockery.my friend go sleep, abeg.
TWO WRONGS CAN NEVER MAKE A RIGHT.EVEN IF THEY DID ABUSE YORUBAS BUT U ARE DOING THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF WHAT U ACCUSED THEM OF DOING;SO WHO IS NOW BETTER..

I HAVE MADE UP MY MIND NOT TO BE TRIBAL AND I STAND ON COMMON HUMAN GOAL IRRESPECTIVE OF TRIBE

SHALOM

2 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:24pm On Dec 10, 2015
They should be free to speak and agitate Biafra.


But they lack objectivity and spew so much hatred. Therefore is has to be stopped

But denying them their right is bad thing to do. They should find another way around it.

2 Likes

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:24pm On Dec 10, 2015
yapapa:
shutup my friend, I have a very good Igbo friend I can die for without a second thought..and I'm not against the deluded ones among them agitating for Biafra..but they are not doing in the right way.all there comments around here are mostly filled with hate speeches to d brim, insulting other tribes (mostly Yoruba's) even when its uncalled for... or u wanna tell me u were two blind to see...you now ranting like a mad dog talking about mockery.my friend go sleep, abeg.
TWO WRONGS CANT MAKE A RIGHT...EVEN IF THEY DID ABUSE OUR YORUBA HERITAGE BUT U ARE DOING THE EQUAL OPPOSITE OF WHAT U ACCUSED THEM DOING AND WHO'S NOW BETTER BW U AND THE TRIBALISTIC FEW IGBOS


I STAND FOR COMMON HUMAN COURSE
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by ishiamu(m): 11:25pm On Dec 10, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Cc: Truckpusher Goodboiyy Vladimoros IzonOwei PrYCE


Typing

Well said
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by Nobody: 11:26pm On Dec 10, 2015
Tonye I think Seun need to apologize to igbos for that ash comment..

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by yapapa: 11:28pm On Dec 10, 2015
Adebowaletunji:

TWO WRONGS CAN NEVER MAKE A RIGHT.EVEN IF THEY DID ABUSE YORUBAS BUT U ARE DOING THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF WHAT U ACCUSED THEM OF DOING;SO WHO IS NOW BETTER..

I HAVE MADE UP MY MIND NOT TO BE TRIBAL AND I STAND ON COMMON HUMAN GOAL IRRESPECTIVE OF TRIBE
.
SHALOM
have I called anyone names or have I wished anyone death? stop dat nonsense my friend....Biafrauuds deserves to be deleted and not just banned.
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by yapapa: 11:29pm On Dec 10, 2015
Goodboiyy:
Tonye I think Seun need to apologize to igbos for that ash comment..
hahahaha...go open Biafrauuud.com
Re: Dear Seun, Your "Rule 9" Is Against Social Justice And Democratic Tenet by IamLEGEND1: 11:30pm On Dec 10, 2015
thehorlufemi:




You want to seceed but you insult people while doing it. You call southwest, South West. Yoruba, Yoruba its not really nice to know that people hate you that much. They spew so much hate that you start having phobia that once u are among Igbo people you can loose your life.

I've not seen any real reason for the agitation.

Exactly!

it's all well and good for everyone to scream 'human rights' but when that right is abused.... then you can either nip it in the bud or just let everything escalate.& personally, I think Seún is just doing his own part.
i Don't even bother commenting in the politics section because most of them Biafra enthusiasts are extremely illogical and they're more concerned about proving to you that the E-hate is real.

2 Likes

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) ... (13)

What's The Present Situation Of Electricity In Your Area? / Corpse Of Godspower Umejuru Ake Arrives Rivers State House Of Assembly. Photos / Tunde Bakare: Osinbajo Should Leave If He’s Not Allowed To Perform As VP

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 72
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.