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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 10:34am On Dec 11, 2015 |
i believe to be led by the Holy Spirit to nairaland and this tread specifically. I have read through some comment and it is inspiring and confirm the trueness of people having gifts. I also have my own gift and I have been proceeding in mastering and understanding the gift. First, people you must understand that the gifts and calling of God is without repentance Romans 11:29, Also, you must know beyond doubt you have a gift and at times God will confirm it through some people. Also your knowledge and wisdom of God is needed to function in this gifting. you need wisdom knowledge and understanding of giver of the gift which is God. you also need to know that this gifts make you a target of devil and his demons so you must stay with God. After you know you have a gift, next you try to be born again, receive the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues and dedicate your life to God through walking in His word. devote yourself to prayers and reading the word of God and accept God words to be true it regardless of devil manifestations. As time goes on the Holy Spirit will lead you to learning about people who have walked in the manifestation of their own gifting and calling. Hope this has been helpful and I will share my experience thereafter 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by destinedtee(m): 10:58am On Dec 11, 2015 |
@ talktokayoo : You are welcome dear brother. Feel free to share your experiences. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 1:26pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
My family are not religious people so I don't know anything about Christianity nor gifts and calling of God. I had various experiences that pose to take my life but I really do not understand it. I will say 2 of them. I saw same demon came to me to kill me, the first time it came I managed to overcome by eventually managing to say Jesus and it left, it happened again and I overcame by saying Jesus. please note that I almost lose consciousness and lose gasps of life at this two incident. please understand that this experience were before I gave my life to Christ. I often think why would a demon come 2 times to take my life and when I said Jesus it flee and why is my life in danger most times. I gave my life to Christ 2013 and got baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit and gave all my life to Christ and the whole things changed. I had a dream where same demon came chasing me and I turned back to him and cast him out boldly. Signs that follows a believer of the gospel "He shall cast out a demon Mark 16:18 The Holy spirit begin to teach me as a believer we have authority over demon and that if a believer or christian have a negative experience with demon and evil spirit it is becos he has not come to the understanding of his Christ given authority. I read through the tread and I saw even some people with gifts yet they are terrified of the Devil, people of God if you will advance with your gifts and calling in life you must understand God given authority over demons, evil spirit and Satan himself. you will not move forward in your calling and gifts without understanding your authority over your adversary the devil. I will not talk much about evil spirit experiences becos I love to glorify God not devil and his demons. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 1:44pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
In your training process for you to proceed with your gifts and calling of God, you must understand your authority over devil and his demons else God will not permit you to move forward with your gifts and calling. Remember if you have a gift and call of God the devil will target you becks he knows if you are able to go through your training and have a ministry he is in trouble. But if you yield yourself to the Holy Spirit you will see that He will guide you and show you things to come. A baby christian have a great power over devil talk less of a person with Gifting. God said my people perish for lack of knowwwledge (Hosea 4:6) . we are people of power and authority 4 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 1:54pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
talktokayoo:This is a powerful testimony I will not talk much about evil spirit experiences becos I love to glorify God not devil and his demons.I sometimes feel this way; most of these stories glorify the enemy regardless of the intent of the narrator. We should temper these accounts with more and more of the word of Truth. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Tjayjosh(m): 1:55pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
talktokayoo:Awesome! |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 1:58pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
Let me share an experience with you. The Holy Spirit said to me that the devil or his demon are not scared of man, they are not meant to be scared of us what they are scared of is the presence of Jesus Christ in you by the Holy Spirit and your knowledge of the fact that you know that you have the power to cast them out. I was sleeping some months ago and I do know by revelation of God that I have my Angel who guard and minister to me and I do feel his presence walking in my room. I opened my eyes to see a voice echoing from my entrance of my room near my bed saying "I catch you tonight" it was darkness and the demon was there, it did not come near me but was threatening me. after a while I said "in the name of Jesus Christ" before I said out it was gone. I ask God why does he have to permit that and that were was my Angel, the Holy Spirit and He told him he only want to teach me the power in the Jesus against the power of darkness. I don't need the Angels or help from above to fight the demon, authority has been given to me already in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. So people of God we are more than conquerors through God who loves us. 12 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 2:11pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
Brethren I believe that the Holy Spirit want me to say things that I have said. i believe by the Spirit of God we should not glorify devils, evil spirit and experiences with them over God. And when we have experiences with the devil , God shows our level of maturity in Him and God is just bringing us to the knowledge of our authority in Christ Jesus 5 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by talktokayoo(m): 2:21pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
vooks: yes my brother. All should be to God glory and edify the body of Christ not to make people terrified of demons 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 3:37pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
vooks:We argue to learn mr know it all so there is no point getting aggressive..You don't get people to agree with you by being aggressive. No one can fully understand God, not even you with your whole knowledge of the Bible can understand him.. Then you should answer this question Didnt God know Noah at some point will be angry with ham and curse ham's son Canaan, didn't God know that ham will one day commit atrocity. Gen 9:20-25, Yet ham was blessed. Why did God also bless Ishmael King James Bible And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. Gen 17:20 God blessed Noah and his family telling them to be fruitful and multiply because they where going to start again.The world Noah entered from the ark was significantly different from the world he knew before. God gave Noah the same kind of mandate He gave Adam in the beginning of creation (Genesis 1:28), since Noah essentially began all over again. God blessed Noah's son and there wives because of Noah..it seen in the bible that God blesses people cause of the relationship he had with there father example Abraham. (Psalms 112:1-2 NIV) Praise the LORD. Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, who finds great delight in his commands. {2} His children will be mighty in the land; the generation of the upright will be blessed. Ham gave birth to Canaan, Canaan in turn birthed the generation of post flood nephilims/giants. Canaan was ancestor to the Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites, Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites and Hamathites. Later the Canaanite clans scattered and the borders of Canaan reached from Sidon toward Gerar as far as Gaza, and then toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. Gen 10:6, 8-19...These lines of Canaan aso had the nephilims and giants living amongst them. How come ham was different from his brothers in attitude, ham even brought a curse upon his son. The origins of the post flood nephilims and giants comes from Canaan as his line had giants and nephilims Even Gen 6:4 states that there were nephilims/giants even afterwards, how did the nephilims/giants come aftwards. After the flood Noah and his family where the only ones left with the responsibility of multiplying and repopulating the world. No where in the bible again was it stated that angels mated with women again after the flood. so how come where they nephilims and gaints after the flood? The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward.(gen6:4) 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 3:42pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
vooks: The purpose of this thread has been mentioned on page 1. It is to expose the hidden works of satan and his demons not to glorify the enemy. Maybe you should check the topic of this thread again. If you feel this is too much for you, kindly click the un-follow button. God has given people spiritual insight and several spiritual gifts, this thread serves as a medium to spread the word of God and expose the deceits and the operations of the satanic kingdom. Not many people can digest things like this. If you don't have experiences or testimonies like people on the thread, why do you try to make a bad impression about people's stories? because you don't have any of these experiences?? Everything here is based solely on revelation and the word of God. This thread helps to re-connect people back to Christ; making them see how satan works against them if they continue in sin. And if the thread closes today, I'll still be glad with what God has done in people's lives via this thread. I would only advise you to be careful about the way you speak. You seem to have a loose tongue and a haughty spirit, always too fast to speak non stop. Maybe this is too much for you to take in. Maybe you should listen more to people and stop assuming you're Mr Perfect. 10 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 3:55pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
CharlyG1: bro Charles calm down. see..... you have a purpose on this thread. its too help liberate/ give insights that would empower and teach people. if you say something and someone doesn't agree......move on . don't argue with him cos you also are indirectly and unknowingly detailing the thread too. bro vooks is just bearing his mind and saying what he believes. and that's OK. everyone has the right to say what he or she believes . let's move on. God doesn't like arguments. I've missed ur insights and teachings. pls continue. bro vooks .....its OK. this is the second major argument you r having on thus thread. in as much as I like ur arguments and style....I think its getting extreme. God bless us all. peace 9 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 4:07pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
nnamdiosu: Thank you. I hate arguments. But I won't tolerate it when someone says these stories glorify Satan. That's rude. If he thinks that's an insult on me, let him think again. Thank you all the same. I'll cease to reply to his posts. God bless you. 4 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 4:14pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
CharlyG1: now that's the spirit. . .u welcome bro 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 4:16pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
nnamdiosu:dis is d same reason d church isn't United. Wen we have varying opinions, we should seek d Holy Spirit who isn't the author of confusion. If d church is humble enough to seek the Spirit opinion on every issue, I believe d church will be united. Christ is the head d church is d body as long as d church remains in disagreement there can't be revival. The word has to go along with signs and wonder. Bro chalse u shouldn't av stooped into calling names even though u r d op on this thread, i believe other ppl contributions have kept the thread going. Apart from the aggressive nature of bro vooks arguments i believe some of his posts av blessed one or two ppl here (i included). This thread is to expose the devil right? Division is a very powerful tool in the hand of the devil. Ignoring offensive posts isn't too difficult to do. Wen we sense argument in d air, we can avoid it Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. James 3:13-18 KJV 6 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:17pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
CharlyG1:You are free to get yourself worked up. The bulk of these stories are nothing more than self-centered, they make heroes out of men. If this does not apply to you, then you are hurting over nothing. And of course you don't brook disagreement. That is PRIDE. Can't stand the idea of being wrong. You want to sit up these dispensing heavenly wisdom. Anything you disagree with is distraction and demonic, right? You may as well go ahead and count the demons am carrying ![]() Or even better, list them by name and then cast them out |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:23pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
nnamdiosu:I haven't argued with nobody, I merely agreed with a brother here that the bulk of these tales glorify the enemy. This is nothing but God's honest truth. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:44pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
zeongeon:Your definition of aggressive is difference of opinion, right? You are funny No one can fully understand God, not even you with your whole knowledge of the Bible can understand him.. This is the most useless question/analogy I have come across. In Gen 6, God was dealing with the THEN world. Peter tells you it is THEN world that perished. It was the sin of men of that particular time. So if Ham was upright at that particular point, he escaped regardless of his future sins. You on the on the hand are claiming that God destroyed corruption with angels in toto while sparing and blessing some of the corrupted and specifically commanding them to multiply. Why did God also bless Ishmael King James BibleAnother irrelevant example. He blessed Ishmael because Ishmael descended from the loins of a man He had blessed. If God was cursing sinners and he blessed a sinner in their midst, that'd have been a contradiction. God is Wise and Consistent God blessed Noah and his family telling them to be fruitful and multiply because they where going to start again.The world Noah entered from the ark was significantly different from the world he knew before. God gave Noah the same kind of mandate He gave Adam in the beginning of creation (Genesis 1:28), since Noah essentially began all over again.This is true. Very true. God blessed Noah's son and there wives because of Noah..it seen in the bible that God blesses people cause of the relationship he had with there father example Abraham.What you are saying is God blessed some Nephilim because of their relationship with Noah giving them a safe haven in the ark but He destroyed the rest. The ones he blessed he commanded to multiply. So the Nephilims were really a non-issue, which begs the question, WHY did He destroy them in the first place? Ham gave birth to Canaan, Canaan in turn birthed the generation of post flood nephilims/giants. Canaan was ancestor to the Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites, Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites and Hamathites. Later the Canaanite clans scattered and the borders of Canaan reached from Sidon toward Gerar as far as Gaza, and then toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. Gen 10:6, 8-19...These lines of Canaan aso had the nephilims and giants living amongst them.Once again Giants are not necessarily Nephilim and I shared the verses so I won't repeat myself How come ham was different from his brothers in attitude, ham even brought a curse upon his son. The origins of the post flood nephilims and giants comes from Canaan as his line had giants and nephilimsThis is an unreasonable question. How was he different? Jacob and Essau were twins and VERY different despite coming from the same mother and father. So even if Ham was 'different' as you purport, this is no evidence of corrupted genes. What you keep on missing is Noah's brothers and sisters were destroyed in the flood, so it is clearly nonsensical to claim Noah had 'pure' genes the only of their kind Even Gen 6:4 states that there were nephilims/giants even afterwards, how did the nephilims/giants come aftwards. After the flood Noah and his family where the only ones left with the responsibility of multiplying and repopulating the world. No where in the bible again was it stated that angels mated with women again after the flood. so how come where they nephilims and gaints after the flood?Yes AFTERWARDS but the question is what is AFTERWARDS? Genesis 6:4-5 (KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually The context of the verse is clearly on pre-FLOOD. God saw the wickedness 'after' the AFTERWARDS but He saw the wickedness BEFORE the flood so AFTERWARDS is pre-Flood |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 5:02pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:09pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
@bro vooks,, this stories are not self centered.. if you don't agree with a statement, narrate your opinion and move on... God who sees the heart of men knows those that are his children... every Christian has a gift from the. Father and am sure. you can as well inspire us here by telling us of your personal testimonies strictly based on Bible as you want instead of creating unnecessary arguments.. divisions are from the devil.. even when you emphasis always on how those with powers of Holy Spirit I.e miracles, casting out devils e.t.c were rejected by Jesus on Judgment day, you. failed to complete the chapter on this reason for people to understand that it's actually christians who are hypocrites and do not have the love of God in them luke 13 ( “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’) ALSO NOTE BELOW THAT IN MATTEW 23,THE WORD RIGHTEOUS WAS USED,,WHICH MEANS NOT ALL WHO CLAIM RIGHTEOUS WILL INHERIT HEAVEN.. NOW JESUS HERE STILL MAKES REFERENCE TO SAME POINT AS THAT IN LUKE13 ( Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV) The Sheep and the Goats “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”) 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:21pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
here is a DETAILED EXPLANATION of Nephilim gaints of which the research I know God led me to last 2 months as I was growing spiritually after so much ignorance in time past, after this narration, I will never talk on this issue again because I know the devil is indeed a roaring lion seeking for whom to devour ;;;;; “ And there we saw the giants … . and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers. ” — Numbers 13 :33. In our original article on the Nephilim , we detailed the Biblical origin of the half -angelic , half - human hybrid giants, known as Nephilim, who were the product of illicit relations between evil fallen angels and human women in the time before the Flood and Noah ’s Ark. The flood wiped out the giants but shortly after the flood they returned and spread all throughout the Promised Land. As this article will show , not only did the giants return after the flood, they were major enemies of God and His chosen nation, Israel for centuries. This article will show that for a time Nephilim were all over the ancient Middle East wreaking havoc , attacking God’ s people and creating spiritual practices to lure humanity in worshiping Satan and his angels. Genesis 6 : The Origin of the Nephilim And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair ; and they took them wives of all which they chose . And the LORD said , My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years . There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that , when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown . And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth , and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. — Genesis 6 :1 -5 . This brief passage tells a very important origin story . A group of the “sons of God”, the Biblical name for angels, in rebellion against The Lord , came to Earth and took human women as wives to have illicit relations. And their children, half - human, half - angelic hybrids, were the Nephilim giants . The idea of angels sleeping with women and having kids is not something that all Christians agree upon , know about or even comfortable with. However , the truth of Christianity is based upon one source: God’ s Word as revealed in the Holy Bible . And from a study of Scripture it becomes clear that this event did indeed happen . Were the “ Sons of God” Angels? This question is often raised initially as an objection to the idea that Nephilim giants ever even existed. the Hebrew words for the “sons of God” is B ’nai Ha Elohim, which would means these are Heavenly beings, giving credence to them being offspring of fallen angels ( the term Elohim is literally the plural of ‘god ’) . And then we see the children of these sons of God and daughters of men were “ mighty men” and of “renown . ” They were also “giants .” Something in their genetics made them super -sized people. And it was their fallen angelic parentage . But again , we must keep searching the Bible to make certain of meaning. The Bible is self- confirming and one passage of Scripture can always be confirmed by another . We see the term “sons of God” next used in the book of Job . Job chapter 1 reads : “ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD , and Satan came also among them . And the LORD said unto Satan , Whence comest thou ? Then Satan answered the LORD , and said, From going to and fro in the earth , and from walking up and down in it . ” ( Job 1 :6 -7 ) The scene being described , where God is literally meeting with the sons of Go , took place in Heaven . This is a Divine Council that God holds where He chooses to meet with both good and evil angels to discuss affairs of the world (for more examples of these assemblies see 1 Kings 22 and Psalm 82) . Another Divine Council is called in Job Chapter 2 . Verse 1 states : “ Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD , and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. ” So again from the clear reading of the text , the “ sons of God” are not human men but are in fact angels, who are meeting in Heaven with The Lord . And the Hebrew term is b ’nai ha Elohim. The third reference to the sons of God in the Old Testament is again in Job , but this time in chapter 38 . God who in this is posing questions to Job about the creation of the universe ( to show Job how little understanding and knowledge he has compared to The Lord) says: Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth ? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof , if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it ? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? — Job 38 :4 -7 So again, not only were the sons of God again with God, they existed even before the Earth itself was created . Every use of the term b ’nai ha elohim in the Old Testament is a reference to angelic beings . In the Septuagint, the oldest form of the Old Testament today ( and the version most quoted by Jesus and His disciples in the New Testament ) the term ‘ sons of God’ is not even used in these passages in Job , it just reads “ the angels of God.” Thus it can be concluded with certainty that the sons of God in Genesis 6 were in fact , angels. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:26pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
Did Angels Have Sexual Relations With Human
Women ?
Job , the oldest book of the Bible, was written by the
patriarch Job who lived close to the time of the
flood , thus the references to angels reflect this . There
is passage not often cited in scripture that states
directly that certain angels were indeed involved in
illicit relations with human women . It occurs when
Eliphas, one of Job’s friends who is consoling him
over the loss of his family in a Satanically
empowered hurricane , shares a Divine vision he had :
Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and
mine ear received a little thereof. In thoughts
from the visions of the night, when deep sleep
falleth on men, Fear came upon me , and
trembling , which made all my bones to shake .
Then a spirit passed before my face; the hair of
my flesh stood up: It stood still , but I could
not discern the form thereof: an image was
before mine eyes, there was silence , and I
heard a voice , saying, Shall mortal man be
more just than God? shall a man be more pure
than his maker? Behold, he put no trust in his
servants; and his angels he charged with
folly : – Job 4 :13 -18.
The word “folly ” in the Old Testament is used to
describe sexual sin. Once again, we use Scripture to
interpret Scripture. Here are several examples:
And Dinah the daughter of Leah, which she
bare unto Jacob , went out to see the daughters
of the land. And when Shechem the son of
Hamor the Hivite , prince of the country , saw
her , he took her, and lay with her , and defiled
her … And the sons of Jacob came out of the
field when they heard it : and the men were
grieved , and they were very wroth , because he
had wrought folly in Israel in lying with
Jacob ’ s daughter: which thing ought not to be
done . – Genesis 34 :1 -2 , 7 .
Then they shall bring out the damsel to the
door of her father ’ s house , and the men of her
city shall stone her with stones that she die :
because she hath wrought folly in Israel , to
play the LovePeddler in her father’s house: so shalt
thou put evil away from among you . –
Deuteronomy 22 :21.
And it came to pass after this , that Absalom the
son of David had a fair sister , whose name was
Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her .
And Amnon was so vexed , that he fell sick for
his sister Tamar; for she was a virgin ; and
Amnon thought it hard for him to do anything
to her… And when she had brought them unto
him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto
her , Come lie with me , my sister. And she
answered him , Nay , my brother , do not force
me ; for no such thing ought to be done in
Israel : do not thou this folly . – 2 Samuel
13 :1 -2 . 11 -12.
So here we see that certain untrustworthy angels
were charged with the sin of “ folly” for sinful sexual
acts . In the Septuagint the verse from Job says: “ he
perceives perverseness in his angels” giving even
more confirmation that there were sinful sexual acts
committed by angels.
The books of 2 Peter and Jude detail the punishment
of the angels who committed these sins :
And the angels which kept not their first estate ,
but left their own habitation , he hath reserved
in everlasting chains under darkness unto the
judgment of the great day . Even as Sodom and
Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like
manner , giving themselves over to fornication ,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for
an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal
fire . Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile
the flesh , despise dominion , and speak evil of
dignities. – Jude 1 :6 -8 .
Here we see a reference to angels who left their
“habitation ” and are reserved in chains until
Judgment Day . This was the punishment for those
angels who left their habitation of he spirit world to
“go after strange flesh ”, namely human women . Also
note there is a reference to Sodom and Gomorrah,
cities so steeped in sexual corruption that when two
Godly angels cam to visit the home of Lot to usher
he and his family out of the city , the men and boys
came to Lot ’s home demanding that the angels be
brought out so that they could “know them. ” |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:31pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
[b][/b] Nephilim Giant Offspring
Nephilim Giant Height Comparison | Nephilim
By the measurements in Scripture, the original
Nephilim offspring were quite larger than the
average human .
The offspring from this illicit union between angels
and human women were giants who “ became
mighty men which were of old , men of
renown .” ( Genesis 6) The fact that they were giants ,
is also proof in and of itself that their parentage was
superhuman. But these giants were evil. Having been
born of corrupted , Satanic angels they dominated
the Earth and filled it with violence. It is also
interesting to note that the Bible calls them “ men of
renown .” The Hebrew word here, shem , refers to
being famous and legendary . It is as if the Bible is
indicating that when the reader hears of legends of
“demigods ” , titans or legendary heroes who were
part god , that this is who those “myths ” were
referring to. These were ‘men’ of superhuman ability
and strength. In addition to causing violence and sin
in the world , the Nephilim were also corrupting the
human bloodline. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:42pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
Why Would Satan Do This? DNA Nephilim Hyrbids | Nephilim Complete Bible As it will be in the end times , much of the conflict centers around human DNA. After the sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden God pronounced a judgment on Satan : And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this , thou art cursed above all cattle , and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life : And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed ; it shall bruise thy head , and thou shalt bruise his heel. – Genesis 3 :14 -15. This pronouncement was historic. God proclaimed that the means by which Satan would ultimately punished and destroyed would be through the seed of the woman . ( It must be remembered at this point that our enemy , Satan is a far older , and vastly more powerful and evil being , so this prophecy was a serious pronouncement ). A human woman would give birth to a male child who would one day destroy the Devil. This was the first prophecy of the coming Messiah , Jesus Chris . Satan was put on notice. From then on he set out to corrupt or destroy an God-fearing child as that could potentially be the prophesied Redeemer . To no surprise the first Godly child born, Abel, was killed by his wicked brother Cain. Cain was banished and Adam and Eve bore another son Seth. At his birth Eve declared : “ For God, said she , hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. ” – (Genesis 4 :25 ). As more God- fearing sons began to populate the Earth , Satan instituted his Nephilim plan into action. By corrupting the seed of the woman, Satan could prevent the birth of the Messiah , who of course, had to be human and not part fallen angel . Satan wants the Word of God to fail but he knew that in addition to the woman , God prophesied that Satan too would have a “seed” (v . 15 ). Thus the Nephilim were an attempt to thwart God’s plan of salvation for humanity . At every step, the Nephilim giants , via their evil angelic parentage , sought to undermine or undo what God had set out for humanity to be reconciled to Him . In their dominance of the Earth , they reproduced so rapidly, God proclaimed that all flesh on the Earth had become corrupted . They dominated the Earth with war , bloodshed and their pagan religion ( which will be covered in Part 2 of this series ). The Nephilim giants spread violence and sin that : “ God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth , and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually .” Humanity was on the verge of being wiped out with no hope of being saved from sin if every person born became part fallen angel . Thus God judged the Earth with the flood . The Purpose of the Flood in Noah ’s Day Noah Ark Nephilim Flood Punishment | Nephilim Rather than being an act of cruelty , the Flood was God’s way of saving the last of humanity from complete destruction. Many pastors , Bible scholars and Bible skeptics alike view the flood as God’s way of dealing with humanity after humanity just sinning too much . However, with all due respect, this is a very simplistic way of looking at the flood . After all, today ’s society is just as corrupt and depraved, if not far worse than any era before ( more people have been killed in war in the past century than in the prior 900 years ). So why would such a global judgment only happen in Noah ’s day ? The answer is that there were far more complex issues going on in the days of Noah then just humans sinning . The flood served 3 chief purposes : 1 ) To destroy the Nephilim giants . 2 ) To punish the angels who committed the illicit relations with women and make an example of them so that no other angels would ever attempt this again and 3) to save humanity from certain destruction. Much more than the “ over-reaction by an angry God” as skeptics like to paint it , the flood was God’s way of preserving the human race and its bloodline, before it became completely corrupted by the Nephilim giants . This is an important point : many people today point to the flood as “proof ” that God is cruel and angry with humanity all the time, and willing to just kill millions of people in genocide on a whim . However the Biblical truth was that God sent the flood to preserve humanity and to make sure we could still receive the promised Redeemer who could save our souls. Without Jesus Christ , there is no hope . There is no future. There is no forgiveness . Meaning every person would spend eternity in hell . The flood was God’s way to keep that hope for all people. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Noah was chosen to carry on and re-start humanity after the flood because he was a believer in God. Additionally he was “perfect in his generations” which meant that his genetic bloodline and ancestry was 100 % human. Noah had not been a part of the Nephilim hybridization that was plaguing humanity . The Hebrew word for “perfect ” in that verse is tamiym , which means “complete , whole ” with reference to health and physical condition . This is the same word used to describe the condition of animal sacrifices to the Lord: And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep , it shall be perfect to be accepted ; there shall be no blemish therein . – Leviticus 22: 21. Thus Noah, his three sons and their wives were able to survive the flood and re- start humanity . But unfortunately , the Nephilim giants returned. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:50pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
the Bible is very clear on this,, no need to argue anymore Nephilim Giants After The Flood Noah Ham Shem Japheth after the flood | Noah and his family survived the flood . But the Nephilim gene came with them. “ There were giants in the earth in those days ; and also after that …” — Genesis 6 :4 The verse above makes it clear that Nephilim giants returned after the flood . Now nowhere in scripture is it again written that angels ever cohabited and /or had relations with human women after the flood . Genesis 6 was the only instance of this . So how did the Nephilim return? How could this have happened ? The Bible holds the answer : And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth . And Noah went in , and his sons, and his wife, and his sons ’ wives with him, into the ark , because of the waters of the flood . – Genesis 7: 6- 7 . While Noah and his sons were 100 % human , we are not told the same about the wives of his 3 sons, Shem , Ham and Japheth . What is clear is that one or more of these women were carrying the Nephilim gene. This is the source of the post- flood Nephilim . Nowhere in the Bible is it ever stated that angels once again cohabited with human women . The first time Nephilim giants are mentioned by name after the flood is in Numbers 13 after the Exodus in which Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt to go to God’s designated Promised Land. Moses sent 12 spies to scout out the land in advance. 2 of the spies, Caleb and Joshua spoke of the land in glowing terms and urged the Israelites to enter and rightfully claim the land God had promised them. But the other 10 spies had a different opinion : And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said , Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it . But the men that went up with him said , We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we. 32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel , saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it , is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature . And there we saw the giants , the sons of Anak , which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight . – Numbers 13 :31- 33. We will discuss this extremely important passage in much more detail below but a few things should be noted . First off the giants living there were descendants of specific person named Anak. This description , where a Nephilim is referred to as “[ name ] who was born of the giant.. ” shows that the Nephilim hybrids after the flood were the offspring of other giants and not angels (this will be explained in greater detail in Part 2) . And in Numbers 13, the giants the spies saw were the sons of the Nephilim giant Anak. And they were so large that the Israelites spies were like insects to them. Additionally , these giants had special agricultural knowledge that they knew how to grow grapes so large that it took two Israelite men using poles to carry a cluster! So how did the giants return and how was it that they knew to be in the exact place that God was going to send His chosen people to, namely the land of Canaan? The answer starts with the lineage after the flood. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:52pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
The Bloodlines of the Nephilim
The Bible provides a specific geneology and
bloodline of the Nephilim giants after the flood that
can be traced back to Noah ’s own sons. What seems
to be consistent with the presence of the Nephilim
gene was an affinity for evil , due to their fallen
angelic parentage . And among Noah ’s sons, Ham was
by far the most wicked.
Ham
“ And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the
ark , were Shem , and Ham, and Japheth : and
Ham is the father of Canaan . ” – Genesis
9 :18 .
From the first time Ham is introduced , he is
described as “ the father of Canaan .” Notice none of
his brothers get any similar distinction. Whenever
special descriptions are included in a genealogy in
Scripture it is the Bible’s way of saying something
significant happened with this particular event . And
the student of the Bible should search the Scriptures
to find out what that event could be. In this case, it
is clear that Canaan carried the Nephilim gene . This
could only happen through his mother, Ham’s wife,
having the Nephilim gene herself, since we know
Noah in all his generations was 100 % human. If
Ham were wicked and not a follower of God, the
odds of him taking a wife who was a part of the
Nephilim hybrid pagan culture was much higher
(B & E : also note that throughout Scripture , men who
fell into sin often ended up marrying wives who
worshiped false gods; for example, Solomon or King
Ahab ). And from what the Bible details, Ham was no
follower of God. In fact, he was involved in an
inappropriate incident with Noah that led to a curse :
And Noah began to be an husbandman , and he
planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine ,
and was drunken; and he was uncovered within
his tent . And Ham, the father of Canaan , saw
the unclothedness of his father , and told his two
brethren without . And Shem and Japheth took
a garment, and laid it upon both their
shoulders , and went backward, and covered
the unclothedness of their father ; and their faces
were backward , and they saw not their father ’s
unclothedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and
knew what his younger son had done unto him .
And he said, Cursed be Canaan ; a servant of
servants shall he be unto his brethren . And he
said , Blessed be the LORD God of Shem ; and
Canaan shall be his servant . — Genesis 9 :20 -26.
The details of this incident are somewhat vague but
going by Scripture alone , it can be concluded that
Ham, out of evil intent , looked at his father ’s
unclothedness and then made it public. The Hebrew term
for “without ”, chwuts , means “outside , in the street .”
But the evil of this sexually immoral act is again
repeated by the Lord as a general principle for all to
follow:
Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink ,
that puttest thy bottle to him , and makest him
drunken also , that thou mayest look on their
unclothedness! Thou art filled with shame for glory :
drink thou also , and let thy foreskin be
uncovered : the cup of the LORD ’s right hand
shall be turned unto thee, and shameful
spewing shall be on thy glory . – Habukkuk
2 :15 -16.
Shem and Japeth, righteous children of Noah , show
a contrast as they seek to respect their father ’s
dignity by not looking upon , him and carefully
covering him. Ham’s sin was so severe that it
resulted in his youngest son Canaan becoming the
second person in the Bible record to be cursed ( the
first being Cain, the wicked son of Adam and Eve ).
That Ham was wicked (there is no record of him ever
repenting for this sin) would make it more likely that
he would marry a woman from a pagan family who
would be carrying the Nephilim gene.
Why Would God Allow Nephilim DNA to Make It
Through the Flood ?
(B & E : Special thanks to reader Rick for raising this
question) . If it were not already clear, the reason
why God permitted the Nephilim gene to make it on
to the ark is because of human sin. We can never
forget the role we play in human affairs. If humans
sin, they will be judged. If they do not follow God’s
ways, they invite sin and its inevitable destructive
force . Ham was not a follower of God and he was
judged for his sinful rebellion via his wife. As will be
seen in Part 2 , the Nephilim nations after the flood
are at various times used by God as judgment against
the Israelites for their disobedience. We are all
responsible before God.
Part 2 will also review Noah and the world he was
living in . There were giants walking around the Earth
warring with nations, angels openly being revealed
and being worshiped as gods and all sorts of
supernatural activity taking place. The pre -flood
world was a very unique place . Noah’ s family was
well aware of this and that it’s root was satanic,
hence Noah being a “ preacher of righteousness. ”
Ham rejected God’s righteousness and God’s ways to
forge his own. This was solely Ham’s fault. James
chapter 1 outlines the process of sin in one ’s heart:
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation:
for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown
of life, which the Lord hath promised to them
that love him . Let no man say when he is
tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot
be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any
man: But every man is tempted , when he is
drawn away of his own lust, and enticed .Then
when lust hath conceived , it bringeth forth sin:
and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth
death. – James 1 :12- 15.
Ham was drawn by his own lusts to the pagan , sinful
world . He knew the right way to live because the
Bible states that Noah was a “preacher of
righteousness .” Noah and his family were
completely aware of the Nephilim hybridization
taking place and Noah clearly made efforts to live
separate from this . Despite having the most Holy
man on the planet ( literally) as is his father , Ham had
no faith in God. This always brings in sin to a
person’ s life . We can never forget that when looking
at any Biblical account . God could have certainly
killed Ham’s wife or told Ham “she ’s corrupted ” but it
is this author ’s thinking that Ham did not care about
what God had to say because Ham was not a
follower of God. Ham had a choice. And he chose to
reject God.
There are many examples of this in scripture. Moses
led the Israelites out of Egypt and right up to the
Promised Land but could not enter. Why not ?
Because of his sin . King David brought the ark to
Jerusalem where it was supposed to be all along but
could not build the temple for it . Why not ? Sin . King
Solomon had the most prosperous reign in all of
Israel and yet led to the nation dividing and
ultimately being conquered. Why? Sin. Sin provides
the backdoor for Satan to enter and execute his next
move in the chess match between he and God. Let
this be a lesson to the reader: Satan is relentless in
his quest to corrupt and destroy you . And if he
cannot get to you , he will happily enter your life
through a child or family member. Ephesians 4
states :
“ That ye put off concerning the former
conversation the old man, which is corrupt
according to the deceitful lusts; And be
renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye
put on the new man, which after God is created
in righteousness and true holiness … Neither
give place to the devil.” – Ephesians 4 :22- 27. 4 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 7:06pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
ccollins: Ccollins you have done well, I have read through you write ups and it further explains and expands on my research about Nephilim gene and DNA how they resurfaced after the flood. I have also learnt and seen something's in your post that are educating. You even passed the message better than how I tried to. God bless you. 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Busybody2(f): 7:33pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
Group hug EVERYONE now!!! We are all one body in Christ and can all agree to disagree, and come back together as ONE. Even the Bible says if our enemy is hungry we should feed him, how much more we who are the salt and light of the world...We are all here to read and learn so there is bound to be crosswires sometimes but we can all still shake hands and make merry over it...I was asking CharlyG and Nnamdi earlier about the need for spiritual warfare because since I discovered the authority in the name of Jesus Christ, all i have to do is speak the word and IT IS DONE/SETTLED/FINISHED so I don't see the need to wrestle a powerless, useless entity who is already under my feet in the name of Jesus, so I wanted to pick their brain to see if perhaps i was doing it the wrong way, but time constraint couldn't let me see the exchange to the end... May God's grace continue to abound in our lives as we study to show ourselves approved in Jesus' name. And may God keep opening the eyes of our understanding and keep enlightening us in Jesus' name. And may the peace of God and joy that flows like a river permeate all over this thread and saturate it in Jesus' name, Amen. 4 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Great0: 7:34pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
This vooks is soo stubborn. My dear you have not grown just that you pack a lot of knowledge without a work, done in you. We dont need arguement here please. 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Great0: 7:38pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
OP, please continue. ALL GLORY TO OUR ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY GOOD GOD......AMEN. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:46pm On Dec 11, 2015 |
[size=1pt] ccollins:[/size] Thank you ccollins, You are a wise young man. Let no one despise your youth. Concerning this verse, my points were; 1. Only genuine born again Christians can prophesy,heal and perform miracles or (spiritual gifts in short) the name of Jesus Christ 2. Sin does not automatically extinguish spiritual gift in you 3. Many believers operating in the spiritual gifts will STILL end up in hell Among others this means operation of spiritual gifts is no measure of maturity in Christ not the quality of your relationship with Him. This is therefore a stern warning to those of us who adore gifts as an end in themselves. Let us not be mesmerized by the Gifts to the extent of forgetting our relationship with the Giver. It will be sad when the Gifted appeal to their Gifts only for the Giver to reject them. Imagine exercising a Gift yet the Giver does not know me 4 Likes |
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