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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 8:50pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Was the money "looted"? What was the source of the fund? Were they budgeted security wide votes? Were the actually given to PDP members? Do you have proofs? One thing we must understand is that under very serious circumstances, certain actions will be taken. So using cash to buy weapons under difficult circumstances can be excused. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by bloodykiller: 8:50pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
where is omenka sef? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by sirthisthickkal: 8:54pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
MizMyColi: The bolded really shows you always tend to see Gej's display of stupidity as naivety, due to your deliberate sentimental attachment to his stupidity. You always bend the facts to appease your ego and solidarity to a thief . Concrete evidence shows that dansuki and his partners in crime lavished billions of naira for their selfish interest, and You are here telling us it was not exactly looting. So what other names can we call it? Stocking? Or piling? You must be confused. If i were you, i would remove my ego and sentiments from the equation and judge this situation dispassionately. 9 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 8:56pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: For god's sake, Oga cash can be carried around for very legitimate business in any form. Suitcases or tankers. The most important thing is that it is a legitimate business transaction. Electronic transfers are preferred to check mate illicit flows of cash; after all I could funnel funds through legitmste means for an illegitimate business transaction. |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by obailala(m): 8:57pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 8:58pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: Why not go ahead and give the answers my friend?? Was the money "looted"? What was the source of the fund? Were they budgeted security wide votes? I'm sure you also know and realise that under very serious and fraudulent circumstances, the NSA's office can be converted to directorate of finance of a presidential election hiding under the cover of ''procuring weapons to prosecute a war"? 6 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:01pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
sirthisthickkal: What were the evidences? Approval for transfers and request for transfers? You guys are funny. Statements from a Finance Director who ounces said he "thinks" the funds were given to PDP folks? You treat such as facts? Abeg make the trial commence. Same Dasuki who is being tried for treason is the sane guy who's been accused of corruption? Funny guys.... |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 9:03pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: Kabonic! Kabonic!! Kabonic!!! how many times did i call you?? Don't descend into the idiocy that runs rampant on this site. How does that guys response and this your response relate to my first response to the OP? Go back to that post which you also quoted earlier and see why that the guy whom you're supporting is nothing but a dunce 5 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Firefire(m): 9:04pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
APC, Party of preffesional propagandist and career looters. 1 Like |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:06pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Because you can't provide the answers you end up tossing around. Your last paragraph is your imagination. What's the link between funding for electoral campaign and purchase of weapons? Are the weapons going to be used in voting? Please stop dancing to the music in the market square else you don forget you have a house. If there are evidences that the monies budgeted or approved for purchase of weapons were not used, and there are documents to show that the funds were actually for the weapons, they should charge him and do the needful |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 9:10pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: i guess the funds to Bafarawa and other regional GEJ campaign coordinators was also to procure weapons?? My dear, give the answers if you have them. 5 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:11pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Maybe you should take your own advice. My point is simple, clear and concise. Cash can be carried around in suitcases for legitimate transactions especially security related. |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 9:14pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: why not. Dasuki could have even carried it in his wife's hijab. So after reading my post, you still think my grouse is with the mode of transportation?? 5 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by andyanders: 9:15pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
110% Better with Buhari. No matter how it looks now, we are better of having Buhari as the President than Jonathan's administration. Jonathan's administration would have destroyed this country if he had won. Jonathan's administration was full of fraudulent individuals holding sensitive positions and their interest was for personal reasons= To loot. I hated the way politics is been played in Nigeria hence I hate APC or PDP. I only love Buhari because of his personal pedigree and incorruptible personality that he is. Look at what is going on now as the level of corruption leveled against the persons of Dasuki, Dokpesi and their likes. In countries like China or Asian countries, these individuals supposed to be publicly executed if found guilty with the mind-burgling amount of money involved. The fear of Buhari is the beginning of wisdom.That was why PDP was afraid of having him as the President. Now that he is there whereby he mate an empty treasury, it will take time to re position this country, I am glad he is doing it and we as Nigerians MUST be ready to scarifies our comfort in order to get things right for the future. 6 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:19pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Lol. What's your grouse? |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 9:20pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: lol You should know na...you already alluded to it when you asked if it was budgeted for ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:24pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Did you see a memo for the procurement of weapons which was later diverted? Besides, Yuguda said he transfer on the orders of the NSA...since when did he start taking orders from the NSA? Who's account? An account belonging to the NSA...if so was he a signatory? Or an account owned by the Ministry of Finance? Lol. |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 9:27pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
kaboninc: now you're dancing around. ![]() was N100M transferred to Bafarawa to also buy weapons? 3 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 9:29pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Question |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by obailala(m): 9:38pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
MizMyColi:The number you're calling is currently busy enjoying a nice sunday evening, please try again later. However before you go, kindly ruminate one this question, "Is there any current bad economic indices which wasnt equally bad as at May 29th when the hero of lootoctacy handed over the rickety vehicle of state to PMB?" As at May 29th, the GDP growth rate was worse than it is currently, the fuel scarcity was worse than it is currently, the foreign reserve was worse than it is presently, the exchange rate was same as it is currently and all these indices took a nosedive in less than 6 months of the oil price crash under the lootocracy overseen by the hero. Please my dear MizmyColi, I am not willing to spoil the taste of this barbecued tilapia before me by responding to someone feigning ignorance of who the real culprits of our predicaments are. Please try and enjoy your evening. 6 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 9:38pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: For reasons very personal to me, I decided to stop positive affirmation of any individual in this section. If I have any positive opinion about anyone, I stomach it and pass it away at the loo. But you have earned it, so here goes... Unlike most Buharists I know (except you have an account with which you use to perpetrate evil on here), you seem different. You are not insultive. I wonder why that is though. I guess I'm this surprised because, I'm at a place in my life journey where I've decided to let out negative energies..both those I've held back and those that come in fresh...so sometimes, I deliberately sound provoked/provocative so I can use someone as target practice. You are/were one of them, but you actually got me feeling comfortable arguing with you. It felt like a dream I must wake up from. Now Let's go back to fighting, Shall We? ![]() ![]() Mister (Since you're not Mr Man and Young Man), if you notice, I did not bother quoting all your GEJ tantrums. This thread is not about GEJ, it is about APC and the way forward. We agree they have a lot on their plate. The former administration didn't quite perform up to expected expectation, that's why change was voted in. If you follow my comments on here, you'll notice that I admitted that my preference for Jonathan was more personal cum emotional/ideological than informed/logical. The reason is because, from the get go, I never quite saw Buhari or GEJ as the solution to Nigeria's problems. It was during post 2015 elections that I developed this respect and loyalty towards GEJ, mainly due to his utterances which he backed up with action. On the whole saga/scandal...I have made my position known in another forum where I participate actively too. I refused posting here because of the crass insensitivity and hypocrisy of the Sai Chanters. If you saw it, you'd be shocked and eat this word of yours >>>"You guys, especially you, have your minds made up and are only too happy to see things go worse. " I kinda feel sad admitting that GEJ was politically weak and non assertive. But it is what it is and we have to move on. God forbid! God forbid that I wish this nation ill. God forbid that I'm happy at the turn of events. Perchance, is that how you would have felt if GEJ had won? Would you have wished that Nigeria goes up in shambles just to prove that you were right all along for disbelieving in GEJ? Genlteman, I have been in Nigeria for a while. The crux here is that, even before elections...things weren't this bad (you and I know)... So what went wrong? What is APC and Buhari doing? How are they going about it? What sectors are being affected? There's a need to know. |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by CltrAltDel: 9:57pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Noobshakur:Try get sense small 3 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by CltrAltDel: 10:01pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
obailala:Gbam. ....I owe u anoda plate of barbecued tilapia.......next weekend ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Nobody: 10:17pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: "He who goes to equity must go with clean hands" Help me understand why you "commented" ab initio, mindful of the fact that you are the Op.... Oops did I say you are not the op? |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 10:28pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Rawani: 1. Who handed what over? What are you saying? Did you see me campaign for Jonathan? Did you see me tell anyone anywhere that he is the solution to Nigeria's problem? I knew from the word go that Jona and Buhari were misfits for the job. I only chose a lesser devil. [kindly refer to a previous post on this thread on what informed the choice I made in Jonathan]. Agreed there was rot, sleaze and corruption, as equally obtainable in APC governed states pre and post 2015. What is the way forward? 2. He failed to solve electricity problems but did a lot in terms of building energy infrastructure which the current government is consolidating on. Rawani, name one masses-centric Buharistic achievement without GEJ's smile plastered all over it...I'm waiting. 3. Lies! It was towards the end of GEJ's tenure that I saw fuel scarcity...as in real fuel scarcity. The reason was because the markets created the scarcity because they felt the new government would not pay them what they were owed, so the plan was to recoup all they would have lost. During December last year, was there fuel scarcity? Buhari complained that Nigeirans should not be sleeping in fuel stations, but under his watch, Nigerians not only sleep, they wine and dine in fuel stations ![]() 4. More lies! For the first time under GEJ, we had automobile companies re-setup shop. We saw our foods cheaper. Railways received life, our airports wore a new look, we had better roads, I could go on and on....yet, even with these, I still feel that Jona didn't perform upto expected expectations. Pray tell, what has Buhari done, what is he doing? 5. Well, you are right, unfortunately, I am not in that category. I have called out the GEJ led FG for their impunity, I have expressed my disappointment. Buhari has won, 7 months ago. Now, Whether as the proposition or opposition, we all have a herculean task of Nation building before us. 6. I will do same criticism and more as far as Buhari is concerned whenever I think there's a need to. I am a tax paying bonafide Nigerian, he and all my leaders are accountable to me, whether I voted them or not...capisce? After all, no one has told me to stop paying taxes because I didn't vote Buhari ![]() 1 Like |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Noobshakur(m): 10:35pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
CltrAltDel:lol...omo Afar na? see mugu oh...e dey tell me mk I get sense...u dn baff? abheg go watch Africa magic or go play with sand....ur mate nor dey here o |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 10:40pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
AMBIVERT: Hmmmm.....I'm honoured by your kind words. There are folks on both sides of the divide whose fanaticism will never allow them admit they are wrong on some points. It's not limited to those who chant Sai Buhari. Now Let's go back to fighting, Shall We? Yeah let's start a-fighting ![]() I stopped participating on here after the elections until very recently because i knew that, still smarting from the pain of losing the elections, most pro GEJ folks will cease every opportunity to vent their frustrations and anger at everything Buhari does or does not do irrespective of the absurdity of it and i believed they were entitled to their dance in the arena. I wasn't going to interfere with their pleasure ![]() However, no matter your reservations, you will be lying if you say that this country did not experience a change in at least the first 2 months of this govt. Electricity was better supplied, Petrol not only came back to N87, you became sure of their metering. In fact Bismark Rewane said for the first time, he entered govt agencies to transact business and nobody asked him for bribe. Even a natural buhari critic like Olisa Agbakoba in his interview on Channels about Buhari's 100 days asked the question: What happened? His answer: Nigerians keyed into the body language of their leader. I blame Buhari for allowing the momentum to ebb but it was to be expected that the man was now in as a political leader and politicians will always be politicians hence much time was devoted to playing politics e.g #SARAKIGATE. Those who are familiar with my posts on NL know what my mantra was "We've been ruled by a devil from an evil coven for 16 yrs, i believe it's time to try out another devil from another coven". I never saw Buhari as a savior neither did i see him as a miracle worker or someone with a great economic prowess. I simply saw a man who was not bogged down by the materialism that rules the life of the average Nigerian and a man 'wicked' enough to not allow his subordinates dip their hands into the till anyhow. That perception hasn't changed Thank God you're not one of those who prays everyday for Nigeria to fail so they can have an opportunity to tell me that ''I told you so'' but i expect you to admit such folks exists in large numbers among your fellow pro GEJ people. You see them opening threads after threads to celebrate calamities like it adds some naira to their bank balances. I never wished GEJ to fail. Having grown up in the ND and living all my life there, i felt a kindred spirit with GEJ. Me and my colleagues even bragged that finally we have an 'Etibo' wearing occupant of Aso Rock but it was a disaster. I'm sure you watched/read Wole Soyinka's interview on Channels book club last week on this issue? I share his opinion 100%. Of course some things are worse than they were when Buhari took over but so has the price of oil been and it's meant to account for like 85% of the budget. the 2015 budget was predicated on $65/Barrel and i trust you know how much it is now coupled with the fact that we have numerous unsold cargoes on the sea. Will you ascribe that problem to Buhari's incompetence? contracts of over N2Trillion were awarded by GEJ govt with budget provision of N137B for infrastructure and you expect construction companies not to throw out workers? Dear, the man was fighting against a combination of the devil and the deep blue sea. Like i told Coli in my response to her, I wish things can go faster. i wish we can have a drastic change but honestly speaking, with the realities of the state the previous govt left us, i would have to be content and wait till Buhari rolls out his own budget and plans next year. I don't know if i addressed your concerns but i would wish i did. 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 10:40pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Dear Obailala I have written written much epistles in one thread for a day. I will read your commentary and reply accordingly tomorrow. ![]() |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 10:42pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
krusdamax: Dear wise man...ask the OP why she mentioned my moniker and invited me to come and comment ![]() |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by sherrylo: 10:50pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
theV0ice: Finishing. 1 Like |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by sherrylo: 11:03pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Well GEJ nearly finished this country and I am glad I paid part of his exit ticket fee 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by ShowYourCertificate: 11:21pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Mynd44:You must pained that despite all this attempt to smear Jonathan's name he's still soaring high in popularity and fame. He's the hero of democracy. |
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