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Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 9:47pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
oluwafreshkid: You have a valid point but the truth is that most of us take alcohol. Even a wine with 4% alcohol stiill contains alcohol. Drunkenness is defined as a state of intoxication and if you can take a bottle of alcohol and stop i think you have not crossed the line but the problem as i explained earlier is that people cant just know when to stop and this is why pastors preach that it is better not to touch alcohol at all. But today many believers still take like a bottle of stout or gulder and stop there but when you cross the line of intoxicating yourself even if it takes less than a bottle to intoxicate you,please dont do it. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by ODUBEZE: 9:50pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008:From your reference: Be aware that this technique is not to be used by someone who is not a smoker. The resulting coughing fit will not benefit any respiratory illness. Dry mullein will go up in a puff of smoke and taste too harsh to be enjoyed at all. --- Catnip add a relaxing note to the smoking mixture. It is gentle and can be effective to take the edge off the craving for tobacco. I find it a little too harsh once that craving abates. e.t.c --- Or is there anything I am missing? 1 Like |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 9:51pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
xhamel89: Im sorry bro,this is not the time to wish but please do us all the favour,just drop tye verses as im sure that wont take anything from you. So please quote teh verses and i will gladly fish them out. Maybe i should stop responding to people like this. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by battyboie: 9:52pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
What is this "BOLO" saying?? If u dnt undastnd d dynamics of d bible jux Sharrap..& stp 2 dey misyarn |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 9:52pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: While I agree with most of your points, I dont agree when you say someone refused to get saved because they were told to stop wearing jewelries or to stop drinking. The question is what was the gospel they heard? Did they actually get convicted by the Holy Ghost? If they actually got convicted, they will accept the gospel and be saved even if someone adds the caveat to stop alchohol. Many Christians today equate salvation to church membership. What most Christians preach as gospel is denominational membership. No one can give an excuse that they didnt get saved because someone told them to stop drinking. Truth is, they never really received the gospel and never got convicted. Also I would like to add that most of the things you listed are things a real true Christian will never do even if they have not seen biblical verses to support or denounce it. The problem is we have so many false Christians today because the denominational system encourages false Christianity. In fact, todays Christian is defined as someone who attends a denomination and participates in their activities. This is totally different from who the bible calls a Christian 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 9:54pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
henryutd: Another beer parlor talk.Read what from verse 3 to 16? Don't send me message, quote it here and make your point or hold your peace. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 9:56pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
plainbible: I guess you have not met some funny preachers as i described in the first paragraph. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Okeyson4wisdom(m): 9:57pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008:honestly I did not have the urge to open this mesage and now I see the reason why I should have listened to that voice. People leading people to hell even why they know that its the truth and its in the bible, I stand for holiness and righteousness which I know its the true way of entering heaven |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by oluwafreshkid(m): 9:59pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Frankiss44:And you're aware that herbs was given to mankind for use... Coca plant is an herb... If not abused like alcohol, then it's not a sin to use coca (cocaine) |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 10:02pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: You are getting some of these things wrong bro. The foundation of Christ is sincerity. If you take out sincerity and start to talk logic then you will miss it. Where will you sit and take a bottle of stout as a Christian? Is it not with ungodly men? Yes of course! Will they take your Christian message serious after that? No of course! We must be careful not to start to look and talk like the pharisees. I remember when Pastor Chris claimed self service was ok for a Christian and later tried to defend it by saying it depends on what you were thinking at the time. That was such an insincere answer because no one can self service without thinking about sexual immorality and sexual immorality is sin. When you hear such answers, you just know the one giving the answer is trying to justify something they do 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by henryutd(m): 10:02pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
saintkel: Thank God I am not one of them. He can't deceive me. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 10:04pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: Salvation has got nothing to do with funny preachers and their style. Salvation is about hearing the true gospel of Christ and getting convicted by the Holy Ghost. If a man gets convicted, they will receive Christ irrespective of the person who preached to them. the problem is they never truly heard the gospel so they never really got convicted 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by ArcIbrahim38(m): 10:07pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: How many wives does king Solomon has according to the bible please? |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by oluwafreshkid(m): 10:08pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
plainbible:You can drink beer at your house... |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by HBB1(m): 10:08pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
On masturbation: Wondering how a young man with a problem down below will give semen for analysis... maybe a giant needle will be stuck into his 'shumtin' to suck it out? On smoking: I know students were punished for not smoking in Eton college in the 1600s( when it was believed it protected against the plague). Now we know it's a bad habit which everybody should avoid. If smoking tobacco is a sin against God, can I chew tobacco instead- or kolanut? On drinking alcohol: I concur with the OP. Been drinking little alcohol since I was a boy (little palm wine, little wine) and I have 'never' been drunk. If a man decides to abstain, that's his business. I |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by enny4real23(m): 10:09pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
(Yawns) I think I dosed off once or twice & for a second there, i thought I was reading Tsung su's 'Art of War'. (no offence) |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by henryutd(m): 10:10pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: You called the scripture beer parlour talk. 1Cor. 11:4-6 |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by laprince(m): 10:10pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: great piece |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by oluwafreshkid(m): 10:10pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
OP is a JW - Jehova Witness ; and we all know you can't argue bible with these people! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Chizzled06(m): 10:12pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
engrsoma: I've read the whole bible. Cover to cover. Someone handed me a book and told me it was God's word. It obviously didn't fall from the sky, so I wanted to understand the process by which 'God revealed his word'. Next question. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by henryutd(m): 10:12pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
oluwafreshkid: And after that the Holy Ghost will come upon you abi? |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by flokii: 10:14pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
@OP m guilty of 2 & 3... and mayb some others I can't remember cos things have changed over d years Thank God drunkenness is d sin and not drinking.. I also have this soft spot for tiny necklace & wristwatches (preferably gold) m still okay... thank God |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 10:14pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
plainbible: Bro all i know is that drunkenness is a sin so whether you take a can beer or a bottle in your room or wth unbelievers is left to the discretion of that persom. i hve nver taken beer before but i also know that when you take a little alcohol without getting frunk its not a sin yet if you take a glass and become drunk then you have sinned. As for masturbation im so done discussing it as i have explained all i can in the previous pages. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 10:16pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
oluwafreshkid: There are many things you can do in your house that you cant do outside even as a normal secular guy. Wearing underwear and walking about is not a sin and you can do it in your house but you cant do it outside on the streets. Even the police might arrest you. 1 Like |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Dollyak(f): 10:17pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
plainbible:This is definitely the most intelligent answer so far. It is obvious the op is walking the thin line of Christianity which can only be a slippery slope. For instance, I can't seem to think of anything you can smoke that does not harm your body except flavored oxygen. Again, that has its limit... Don't get me started on masturbation. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 10:21pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: Like i said in my first post, I do agree with most of your points which included taking alcohol. There is no where in the bible that says taking alcohol is a sin. But you have to get your perspective and foundation right. For example, there is no where in the bible where it is said that marrying a 9 year old is a sin, but we do know what it proper and right as humans. So someone could do that tomorrow and claim there is no verse in the bible thats stops him but that is clearly an insincere position 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 10:21pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
flokii: This is the best comment i have read today. Trust me,many people gave up their salvation because they cant help taking alcohol so for how long will heretical preachers keep driving people to hell? Someone was speaking about salvation as conviction of the holy spirit and i just dont know how to explain that giving your life to christ is an option that comes with self examination...some ladies have decided to remain unsaved cos they cant imagine themselves not wearing earrings and how many people have signed out of Salvation because they self service due to high libido. So unfortunate that many preachers have made salvation look like bondage. I have been born again for 27years and well grounded and im happy that up till this moment,no single poster have been able to clearly back their contrary views from the scriptures except flimsy palm wine joint comments. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Sman37(m): 10:23pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Why ar christians worry abt hell hann no be wuna said JESUS die for wuna sin so da mean jesus don pak all of wuna sins go see ur life at u all deceivers of faith at if ur bother pay d money for d house u dey rent u go pay d landlord again abi no be so jesus die for our sins my father pay for my car explain d two here |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by plainbible: 10:28pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
The problem with this your thread is that you are trying to give people a feel good reason to do things that their spirit and conscience does not support. You are trying to give them a licence to sin. Just preach the gospel and tell men to go and sin no more. Once a man is truly convicted, the Holy Spirit will stop him from doing many things even without some pastor teling them. Most of the testimonies I have heard from people who got saved included stories about how they stopped drinking, smoking, etc even without anyone telling them it was bad. The Holy Spirit Himself made them to stop it. Believe me when I say that a mans least problem is whether they wear ear rings or not. Just tell them about Christ and His salvation. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by 4dchairman(m): 10:28pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Biblical verses on false doctrine. Ephesians 4:14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by tbhe trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; Verse Concepts 1 Timothy 1:18-20 This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme. 2 Timothy 2:16-18 But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some. Titus 1:10-11 For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain. Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, through which those who were so occupied were not benefited. Verse Concepts 2 Peter 3:17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, Verse Concepts Romans 16:17-18 Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting. 2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 1 Like |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by flokii: 10:29pm On Dec 13, 2015 |
Toks2008: dnt mind these christians we have nowadays.. most are hypocrites like Fela would say... our people too dey fear... evrytin to them is sin they want to b pure like Christ himself or seen as that I do things I know won't harm anyone else & will do little or no damage to me as well... anything outsyd that is a sin my own view tho. |
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