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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by OZAOEKPE(f): 9:59am On Dec 14, 2015
joseph1832:
No be only mountain, na fountain. tongue
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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AZeD1(m): 10:13am On Dec 14, 2015
AMBIVERT:


Shove your Latin down your throat, Mr cosmopenticus, and answer the question.

It is expected that no matter how miniscule, a sector of the populace ought to be feeling the cleaning.


People are feeling it, they just don't know. The fact that people are complaining that there's no money is a proof of that.
In the past, someone would have taken out money from the treasury and spent it indiscriminately, so the mallam who sells goats would have sold a trailer load to one politician, Hotels would have been over booked e.t.c, Now most of this things aren't happening (due to TSA and people hiding their loot) means there's less money in circulation so everybody will be affected.
To the woman on the street, its a bad thing but to people like me who is educated and knows that true change doesn't come easy, we know its the price to pay.


PS: Even as far back as 2014, NOI had warned us to brace up for hard times.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Rawani: 10:35am On Dec 14, 2015
Your foot? Thats all you have to say for the rotten cabbage you handed over, for which you are expecting a royal salad?

Tackle my questions or kindly navigate your obstinacy to where it is a virtue. The PDP was a plague to Nigeria.


kaboninc:


Was it a failed power sector?

Direct cause my foot.

Financial recklessness my foot.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by nextdoor84(m): 11:04am On Dec 14, 2015
If I say "Baba", you say "One" and another Man say "Chance" omo na u sabi!!!
grin grin grin
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by jayriginal: 11:13am On Dec 14, 2015
MizMyColi:
What we need is a total overhaul. An overhaul in the faces and operators of our government.
Period!

This question is directed at my Sai Chanting Buharist Brothers...

If PDP looted Nigeria dry and things found a way to work...at least, better than what we have now, what then is wrong? Why isn't there a change now that there are no more "looters"

Don't even quote me to tell me APC is cleaning shiit or mess, else I will dash you an e-slapgrin

But if you insist, kindly tell me how they are cleaning this mess.
What exactly are they doing? What are the indices to judge what they've mopped up so far, also tell us the expected or existing impact on the masses as far as the cleaning is concerned.

Whenever there's a cleaning going on, it is expected that progress would be made, and no matter how miniscule, the affected parts feel it. Pray tell, what is the word on the streets today? Is there any sector of the populace genuinely applauding Buhari?

Answers Please.
Thanks.

Because Nigerians want quick and unrealistic results, politicians you support give you money on election day, give you rice and superficial things during campaigns and you chant their praises to the heavens.

If anyone wants to thoroughly clean a dirty house, furniture must be moved aside and the house might be inhabitable for a period. Same goes with renovation. You can be sure that if Jona was in charge today things would be much worse. There's only so much abuse an economy can take. Plus in light of recent revelations, the moral thing for Jona supporters is to be quiet.

More than half of Buharis supporters today clamoured for Jona to take over from Turai resulting in the infamous doctrine of necessity. They even gave him a large period of grace to perform and only attacked him when it was crystal clear that he was as clueless as they come.

By contrast, Buhari has been criticized and vilified from day one. I mean even after he won and was yet to resume, people were praying for his downfall. What kind of people are you?

Listen by virtue of winning a dominating party, Buhari has brought the biggest catalyst of change, assuming that's the only thing he ever does. You don't like him, take another shot in 2019. That's change right there.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 11:19am On Dec 14, 2015
kaboninc:


Na wa oh....

We just get unnecessarily sentimental and distort facts. We will only realize the consequences of our actions after we must have killed a fellow for the very wrong reason.

The reason for the non-availability of USD was never because $47m was "withdrawn" from the CBN on the "orders" of the NSA. We are always quick to cast aspersion on the previous administration while we forget the source of funding for the APC Presidential Campaign.

There were no "seperate" "#10B" and "$47m". Both are the same, just equivalents of the other.

This is what happens when we dance to the music...I had earlier warned you about.

This is another of your statement:


Haba......


I know you really wish to defend GEJ but it isn't my fault he's making it very difficult or you now have an explanation why the office of the NSA should be the one paying mobilisation fees of N100M to regional campaign coordinators? I hope you know the case against the NSA is in excess of $2B and N600B?

Do you also think NOI is out for revenge by providing proof that the NSA 'borrowed' $322M and £5.5M from the Abacha loot? Do you have a copy of the credit note he used in paying it back to her the federation account?

GEJ sold oil for a good part of his presidency @ over $100/barrel. Abacha sold oil for a good part of his headship @ less than $15/barrel. Whom do you think had more yams for his goats to play and do whatever they liked with? Do I need to emphasize to you that Abacha even sold far less number of barrels per day than GEJ?

Pls provide details of Buhari campaign funding so I can lynch him with you.
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by theV0ice: 11:34am On Dec 14, 2015
jayriginal:


Because Nigerians want quick and unrealistic results, politicians you support give you money on election day, give you rice and superficial things during campaigns and you chant their praises to the heavens.

If anyone wants to thoroughly clean a dirty house, furniture must be moved aside and the house might be inhabitable for a period. Same goes with renovation. You can be sure that if Jona was in charge today things would be much worse. There's only so much abuse an economy can take. Plus in light of recent revelations, the moral thing for Jona supporters is to be quiet.

More than half of Buharis supporters today clamoured for Jona to take over from Turai resulting in the infamous doctrine of necessity. They even gave him a large period of grace to perform and only attacked him when it was crystal clear that he was as clueless as they come.

By contrast, Buhari has been criticized and vilified from day one. I mean even after he won and was yet to resume, people were praying for his downfall. What kind of people are you?

Listen by virtue of winning a dominating party, Buhari has brought the biggest catalyst of change, assuming that's the only thing he ever does. You don't like him, take another shot in 2019. That's change right there.

Exactly. How do you repair a faulty house foundation without the occupants experiencing discomfort? This is aside the discomfort inherent in staying put in such a house?

Instead what do we find? Even before the man took over, the prayer had been and still is his failure and by extension the country's failure.

You're 100% right with the bolded. Those who championed his ascension to the throne via doctrine of necessity gave him support for at least 2 years.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 11:36am On Dec 14, 2015
Rawani:

Really? I usually do not engage in meaningful discourse with foul mouthed elements, the least young ladies, but I will make this single exception. You're obviously not aware of my precedents.

Tell me more about being foul mouthed. I equally don't engage young men who exhibit foul mouthed tendencies. I merely gave you a taste of your own medicine.

You said
Do you honestly expect any further responses from any sane rational mind

This was an indirect jab. I needn't go further.

I speak logic, not estrogen.

Another indirect jab.

I asked you questions for which you kept jumping the gun.

I consider your first statement silly because the intent was to water down my stance knowing fully well I raised valid points.

I asked if you were insane because it is only a person with a dysfunctional mind that seeks to denigrate those who show controlled emotion; knowing fully well, it is part and parcel of being hooman.

A simple NO to my question would have sufficed.




[s]The statements you have made, and as you expressly admitted, are results of your emotional inclinations and not rational thinking or common sense...and you continue to prove your admission....did you just say every sane mind makes decisions based on the irrational? grin[/s]

Do you have comprehension problems?

[s]Actually, you're inching me to believe that, like the chaps who thought theVoice's issue was with the mode of monetary transport, you are unable to understand the responses you have been given on your own thread, otherwise you would not still be flogging a decaying horse.[/s]


Another Balderdash.

Answer the question I asked you based on your first response on this thread...

Does the government also lack a moral capacity to collect taxes from me seeing as I didn't vote them in?


To buttress/debunk my point, explain the rationality and sensibility of the statement below which you made, in light of the thousands of innocent lives lost to corruption in the fight against BH, the current economic challenges, current exchange rate, prevailing oil price, and general suffering of Nigerians.

"Whatever decision taken by Jonathan was for Nigeria interest no matter how flawed it may appear.‎

Not taking decision at all is what is a crime."
-

I will answer that when you stop jumping the gun and answer mine.undecided
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 11:41am On Dec 14, 2015
PassingShot:

Shameful! Pathetic! Callous! Irresponsible!

It's better to keep mute sometimes rather than making ridiculous comments.

Take you advice already.
You are the chief ridiculous comments maker.

Whatever your opinion of my post is doesn't change what I think.
Stop being overly emotional.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by PassingShot(m): 11:49am On Dec 14, 2015
AMBIVERT:


Take you advice already.
You are the chief ridiculous comments maker.

Whatever your opinion of my post is doesn't change what I think.
Stop being overly emotional.
You're the one being emotional with your disjointed theory of how Dasuki is being hunted by Buhari for imaginary sin; and Jonathan for taking some selfless decisions but which Buhari does not agree with.

How much did you get from the loots? Don't tell me it's less than $10,000 at least.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by joseph1832(m): 11:52am On Dec 14, 2015
AMBIVERT:


Take you advice already.
You are the chief ridiculous comments maker.

Whatever your opinion of my post is doesn't change what I think.
Stop being overly emotional.
How can passingshot's opinion change what you think when you've clearly shown you lack the ability to even think?.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 12:05pm On Dec 14, 2015
PassingShot:

You're the one being emotional with your disjointed theory of how Dasuki is being hunted by Buhari for imaginary sin; and Jonathan for taking some selfless decisions but which Buhari does not agree with.

How much did you get from the loots? Don't tell me it's less than $10,000 at least.

It's more than that.
I built a beach house in my village.

Emotional ko.
I have spoken my thoughts on the matter.
I can't help anyone that feels pained and decides to term it emotional.

All these one man did this, one man did that is stories as far as I'm concerned. Who are those proving this case? Who is the judge? Where is the prosecution plus defence? This one sided accusation is nothing but giving a dog a bad name. Charge this man properly to court, make the trial totally open. Let him begin to state his side of the story. Until then, I black out of this silly distraction. 

Is it not funny that Sai Chanters black
out stories on fuel scarcity, bokoharam recent
atrocities, job loses, but carry sensational headlines ‎about the past administration and WE help proclaim it to high heavens? 
They tell and show us only what they want us to see and know and we keep pandering into their game.

I expect a response from Dr Goodluck in the light of revelations from Dasuki today.

Then and only then would my article/Stand which I have written down and saved somewhere be justified for public viewing or not.‎
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 12:07pm On Dec 14, 2015
joseph1832:
How can passingshot's opinion change what you think when you've clearly shown you lack the ability to even think?.

This dude has comprehension problems.
Clearly.
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Rawani: 12:44pm On Dec 14, 2015
Sweetheart, again I will ignore your emotional tantrums and ask you to answer the question.

With regard to your taxes, you are obligated as a Nigerian to pay your taxes, it is not a moral right on the part of government, but a constitutional responsibility.

Now to buttress/debunk my point that you have been irrational and unable to understand the responses you have already been given on your thread, explain the rationality and sensibility of the statement below which you made, in light of the thousands of innocent lives lost to corruption in the fight against BH, the current economic challenges, current exchange rate, prevailing oil price, and general suffering of Nigerians.

"Whatever decision taken by Jonathan was for Nigeria interest no matter how flawed it may appear.‎

Not taking decision at all is what is a crime." - Mizmycoli/Ambivert 2015


Any further deviations and estrogen filled evasionary tactics would be taken as an admission of your incapacity.

P.S - crossing out my posts doesn't make them disappear wink

AMBIVERT:


Really? I usually do not engage in meaningful discourse with foul mouthed elements, the least young ladies, but I will make this single exception. You're obviously not aware of my precedents.

Tell me more about being foul mouthed. I equally don't engage young men who exhibit foul mouthed tendencies. I merely gave you a taste of your own medicine.

You said


This was an indirect jab. I needn't go further.

Another indirect jab.

I asked you questions for which you kept jumping the gun.

I consider your first statement silly because the intent was to water down my stance knowing fully well I raised valid points.

I asked if you were insane because it is only a person with a dysfunctional mind that seeks to denigrate those who show controlled emotion; knowing fully well, it is part and parcel of being hooman.

A simple NO to my question would have sufficed.


Do you have comprehension problems?


Another Balderdash.

Answer the question I asked you based on your first response on this thread...

Does the government also lack a moral capacity to collect taxes from me seeing as I didn't vote them in?




I will answer that when you stop jumping the gun and answer mine.undecided

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by joseph1832(m): 1:01pm On Dec 14, 2015
AMBIVERT:

This dude has comprehension problems. Clearly.
And this broad have problem with thinking.
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by joseph1832(m): 1:05pm On Dec 14, 2015
AMBIVERT:


It's more than that.
I built a beach house in my village.

Emotional ko.
I have spoken my thoughts on the matter.
I can't help anyone that feels pained and decides to term it emotional.

All these one man did this, one man did that is stories as far as I'm concerned. Who are those proving this case? Who is the judge? Where is the prosecution plus defence? This one sided accusation is nothing but giving a dog a bad name. Charge this man properly to court, make the trial totally open. Let him begin to state his side of the story. Until then, I black out of this silly distraction. 

Is it not funny that Sai Chanters black
out stories on fuel scarcity, bokoharam recent
atrocities, job loses, but carry sensational headlines ‎about the past administration and WE help proclaim it to high heavens? 
They tell and show us only what they want us to see and know and we keep pandering into their game.

I expect a response from Dr Goodluck in the light of revelations from Dasuki today.

Then and only then would my article/Stand which I have written down and saved somewhere be justified for public viewing or not.‎
Oh please do shut up! I suppose you didn't read todays news that Dasuki is already charged to court?

All you know how to do is just rant and show un rival senselessness and gross bitterness accompanied by egotistical tribalistic beliefs.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Rawani: 10:26pm On Dec 14, 2015
So its 10 hours later and lil miss emotional still has not provided an answer. My suspicions have been confirmed. The OP clearly did not understand the responses provided on her own thread, and yet remained obstinate and preferred to ride her hormones without a care for common sense.

This thread is as baseless and irrational as the OP, mizmycoli/ambivert admitted her 'analysis' about the past and current government are.

One last chance: Explain the rationality and sensibility of the statement below which you made, in light of the thousands of innocent lives lost to corruption in the fight against BH, the current economic challenges, current exchange rate, prevailing oil price, and general suffering of Nigerians.

"Whatever decision taken by Jonathan was for Nigeria interest no matter how flawed it may appear.‎

Not taking decision at all is what is a crime." - Mizmycoli/Ambivert 2015


Otherwise I call on Mynd44 to bin this baseless and illogical thread.

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 2:29am On Dec 15, 2015
Rawani:
[s]So its 10 hours later and lil miss emotional still has not provided an answer. My suspicions have been confirmed. The OP clearly did not understand the responses provided on her own thread, and yet remained obstinate and preferred to ride her hormones without a care for common sense.

This thread is as baseless and irrational as the OP, mizmycoli/ambivert admitted her 'analysis' about the past and current government are.

One last chance: Explain the rationality and sensibility of the statement below which you made, in light of the thousands of innocent lives lost to corruption in the fight against BH, the current economic challenges, current exchange rate, prevailing oil price, and general suffering of Nigerians.
[i]
"Whatever decision taken by Jonathan was for Nigeria interest no matter how flawed it may appear.‎

Not taking decision at all is what is a crime.

Otherwise I call on Mynd44 to bin this baseless and illogical thread.
[/s]
I've begun to realize that you can listen to silence and learn from it. It has a quality and a dimension all its own.

Never miss a good chance to shut up.

Ignoring you and some posters on this thread is intentional, very much so.
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Rawani: 2:54am On Dec 15, 2015
AMBIVERT:

[/s]
[s]I've begun to realize that you can listen to silence and learn from it. It has a quality and a dimension all its own.

Never miss a good chance to shut up.

Ignoring you and some posters on this thread is intentional, very much so.[/s]

Can't even rescue your thread?

Pea brain, next time don't punch above your weight cool
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by AMBIVERT(f): 3:07am On Dec 15, 2015
Meanwhile, they've succeded in roping me into their usual diversionary tactic without providing clear cut answers as to what the current FG is doing and how it has impacted the masses thus far. We are yet to see and know what sector of the populace is currently applauding Buhari's initiatives.
It's seven months gone.
Seven months of media and mob trials.
Seven months of selective vendettas and media governance.
Where is the change really?
If any, is it retrogressive or progressive...

Alas, this remains an open ended question.
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 10:44am On Dec 15, 2015
Gaborone:
So, here we go...

Yesterday at the office, my boss walked up to us -his employees- and gave an impassioned talk about President Buhari's style of governance. He said, while he thought Buhari's attempt at recovering stolen funds were not out of place in itself, he was giving way too much attention to it. According to him, the President's lack of priority in this regard had become counter-productive and had started to prove detrimental to other areas that are in dire need his attention.

To drive home his point, he gave us a parable of an employer who kept N20,000 in his office somewhere, and on coming back to take it, he discovered that one of his Clerks had run off with it. After the discovery, the employer took the keys to the office, locked it up. He ran out with as much fury as he could muster, shouting to the hearing of all who would listen, "Who saw my boy?!!!", "Please, help me find him and get my money!!" All the while this employer was out looking for the stolen money, his shop remained under lock and key, no monies coming out, no monies going in. No customer, no profits in sight; he was making losses with every turn. Yet, ALL that mattered to him remained getting the thief of a boy, and recovering the stolen money.

My boss likened the employer in the above parable to President Buhari. He says our President has practically closed shop -Nigeria- and has decided to channel all his energy into getting stolen funds, forgetting that there is a bigger picture -an economy- that needs urgent attention; forgetting that the country might be going into a recession; forgetting that people are losing their jobs, forgetting that foreign investors are leaving, and more are 'plotting' to close shop and leave Nigeria; forgetting that an economy is not run by stolen funds which are recovered, but that if anything, they are to be regarded as "extras".

The above is how my boss sees things right now, and I agree with him.

I have to agree because, since coming into office, the activities of President Buhari's government has centered around just two things: 1. Foreign trips; and 2. Instigating the prosecution of looters of the past (who I must mention are not pro his government or pro-Apc). While the relevance of the above two can really not be downplayed, the fact remains that attention need to be given to the economy of Nigeria. As my boss said, no country has ever been run on recovered funds. Me thinks he needs to stay home a bit more, and pay attention to the alarms being raised by the World Bank and other bodies about Nigeria's economy. He need to share that attention he is giving the boy who stole the money.

Now, what's your own take about what my boss said?

#As an aside, he needs to stop talking so much about his predecessor -Jonathan. It's only a lazy man that blames his tools all the time.


Cc: lalasticlala
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by LouisVanGaal(m): 11:25am On Dec 15, 2015
PassingShot:

I will give you proper response later.
Don't waste your time answering her...her mindset is ALREADY made up! What we are seeing now is not new..@ least the APC led federal govt is been sincere with the state of the economy, unlike how the previous one was giving us an 'eldorado' economy on paper...
What has she said about the arms deal and the likes??

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by Ahmeduana(m): 11:43am On Dec 15, 2015
theV0ice:


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

You are good at making me laugh. Your threads are always opened on emotional tantrums and needs no serious effort to diffuse. I didn't see this earlier as you didn't spell my moniker properly wink

Let me ask you a simple question: Can you mention one possible consequence to a nations's economy the scenario of a central bank so loose that $47m was withdrawn in cash stacked in suitcases in this 21st century of Cashless banking and transaction?

This by no less than the office of the NSA?
LETS "ASSUME" THAT WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE THAT 47MILLION$ WAS WITHDRAWL FROM CBN, i didn't see any of consequense such action, WHY? because the bag of rice am buying 13,000# was 8thousand naira then, because the fuel am buying 400 per litre now was 87 naira per litre then, because here in kano a mudu of tomatoes is 1,000 now while i was buying it 200 then, because original tiger generator was 15 thousand naira then while buhari ban the importation...
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by kaboninc(m): 12:06pm On Dec 15, 2015
joseph1832:
And shove your ignorance up your narrow butt! tongue what is expected? That within just 7 months you guys are expecting a sort of miracle to happen, despite the rot and decay? Why am I not suprised. "An ignorant mind can never understand the gravity of atrocity committed"

And to indulge you my simple minded friend and to answer the emboldened, the corrupt sector is truly feeling the clean up! Those who have looted are no longer dancing in the Sun, like they did during the last administration.

Nonsense! Tribalism and bitterness will never allow some of you to see what's in front of you.

Lol.

Ever cared to find out why the anti-virus/virus industry is always booming?
Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by joseph1832(m): 12:53pm On Dec 15, 2015
kaboninc:


Lol.

Ever cared to find out why the anti-virus/virus industry is always booming?
Of course. Its always because there are people patronizing it. Giving it the fuel it needs to grow. grin

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Re: 7 Months Later; Is Nigeria Getting Worse Or Better Under Buhari? by PassingShot(m): 1:17pm On Dec 15, 2015
LouisVanGaal:
Don't waste your time answering her...her mindset is ALREADY made up! What we are seeing now is not new..@ least the APC led federal govt is been sincere with the state of the economy, unlike how the previous one was giving us an 'eldorado' economy on paper...
What has she said about the arms deal and the likes??
Waste time replying her properly ke! Below was my subsequent reply to her after reading some comrades' inputs. She cannot be redeemed.
PassingShot:

MizMyCol.i, expect no further response on this topic from me. It's no longer worth the time having read what my comrades have inked for you.

I will pray for you to be able to rise above irresponsible partisanship because it surprises sane minds that despite revelations of looting that make the world cring and wonder if the looters were human beings, a somewhat reasonable person like you will still be talking as you do.

Accept my sympathy dear.

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