cloudgoddess:

you've got to be kidding me. i never said ALL atrocities are caused by religion - there are many other reasons people do bad things. but religion happens to be one of those reasons, and one of the most powerful ones. a quick look into any history book will confirm that.

empty insult that could easily be turned right back around on you.

this is so ironic that you bring that up because its those very plundering europeans who brought you your christianity --[size=20pt] before whites came, stole from us and pummeled the shit into our heads, we had our own religions and spiritual beliefs. and now those same europeans are abandoning religion by the masses (rate of nonreligious UK is 50%+), and becoming more developed & progressive as a result. and christianity helps keep religious leaders controlling gullible minds of the country, keeping everyone in stone-age mentalities blindly depending on prayer to solve things instead of making scientific and social progress based on evidence and reality.[/size]

again, have you heard the definition of anomaly? one or two exceptions does not discount the overwhelming majority of evidence that higher rates of religious belief are present in the most morally corrupt countries.

"some atheists are asked tricky questions on morality and can't answer them so all atheists obviously know nothing about morality". simplistic, childish reasoning again. more and more evidence continues to accumulate that morality is an innate aspect of the human experience. NO RELIGION has the monopoly on morals -- we ALL have the capacity to do well by others, practice kindness and compassion. and people who do so out of their own choice, not because they're afraid some god will punish them, are far more morally sound than a religious person who is only kind to others so he will get a "reward in heaven".

and atheism isn't a "practice", atheism is lack of belief in any gods --[size=20pt] the ONLY sensible stance to make when there is NO evidence for any particular god and TONS of evidence AGAINST the gods described in every holy book known to man thus far. and its only in your religiously biased world that people become atheists so they can "do what they want" when many atheists i know are the most ethically sound, socially active people i know. look up secular humanism and you will see that indeed plenty of atheist people care deeply about humanity[/size] they just don't require threat of hell to do so. and even moreso on that point, many christians i know seem to hide behind their redemption through christ as an excuse to commit all manner of so-called 'sin'. and surveys taken in the US show the rate of premarital sex is roughly equal between christians and non-believers. so there's that.

And the delusional dullard strikes again

cold:

The re-interpretation or misinterpretation of the bible is your stock-in-trade. So no surprises there. Matthew clearly stated that he hung himself and Acts claimed he fell into a valley and his entrails gushed out. Two clearly distinct reportage of the same event. But here you are,desperately trying to make them seem like the same thing..sigh. If this were two newspapers reporting conflicting statements on the death of Judas,i'm sure you'd have a different perspective but it's in your bible so it must be right. Even when you know in your heart,something isn't right here you can't bear the thought to think something is terribly wrong with this book so you banish such thoughts from your head and just carry on pretending everything is fine. Maybe you can also use your biblical sagacity to clear up these two verses for me...

Genesis 6:19-20
19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

Genesis 7:2-3
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. 3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth

I want to believe the highlighted clarifies it: the clean beasts = 7 pairs, the unclean beasts = 1 pair.

I am sure you know the division to chapters and verses came in the AD period meaning Genesis 7 continues Genesis 6 as a paragraph hence, the second reference was more of a further clarification categorising animals into clean and unclean not mentioned in the first.

malvisguy212:
acts 1:18 record judas fall headlong, from were did he fall from ? Did matthew deny judas fell ? Did luke deny judas did not Hang himself ? NO
Judas hanged himself above the Valley of Hinnom on the edge of a cliff. Eventually the rope snapped ,thus causing his body to fall headfirst into the field below, as Luke described. Matthew does not deny that Judas fell and had his entrails gush out, and Luke does not deny that Judas hanged himself. In short, Matthew records the method in which Judas attempted his death. Luke reports the end result.

I wonder how a man will trip and fall and have all his bowels gush out!!! That that happened means he was in a pretty elevated position and his body was no longer firm but turgid and soft.

Scholar8200:
I wonder how a man will trip and fall and have all his bowels gush out!!! That that happened means he was in a pretty elevated position and his body was no longer firm but turgid and soft.

God. Bless you my Good friend. No matter how hard you try and present the truth for someone , they will never agree with you because their mind is hardened.

I love this logical debate between the believers and unbelievers. Am really learning

KingEbukasBlog:


And the delusional dullard strikes again

I'm finished responding to you. A person who can only respond with insults when he is clearly proven wrong is obviously an incoherent and childish person indeed. I would be very sad to discover you were an adult and not a 12 year old child, the way you're acting. Good luck with life, you really will need it

cloudgoddess:

I'm finished responding to you. A person who can only respond with insults when he is clearly proven wrong is obviously an incoherent and childish person indeed. I would be very sad to discover you were an adult and not a 12 year old child, the way you're acting. Good luck with life, you really will need it

Pls sis, dont waste ur time. He is clearly a dullard who knows he is a dullard but feels like a champion in order to lie to himself and continue in delusion.

Read your last response to him, the one he replied like a lost kid. Pls what do you expect him to say? He knows you clearly said the fact but as expected, he cannot leave his imaginary sky daddy. The only thing that had made him feel like he's got self worth since he was a lost kid.

Imagine Kingebuka feeling like the mouth piece of the almighty God the creator. What else can make a man feel better? No amount of logic can make such delusioned grown ups stop believing in fairy tales.

But the greatest mockery to this nonexistent sky daddy is that it only takes human to convince human that an imaginary sky daddy exists. A god who cannot speak for himself... Who feeds on the delusion of people. Who is only capable of transforming false emotion in to a mirage like reality, leaving the believer grasping unto air, holding unto nothing and being satisfied with nothing.