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Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 9:45am On Dec 15, 2015 |
There are many people who seems to disagree with the celebration of Christmas. Jehovah's Witnesses, teach that it is a sin to observe Christmas at all. Is it a sin to celebrate Jesus' birthday?. Yes, Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible. There is NO command for believers to observe or celebrate Jesus' birthday. It is a matter of PERSONAL CHOICE . I think it is acceptable to observe Christmas; or not to observe Christmas. I think it is not a sin to celebrate Christmas to a degree, anymore than it would be sinful to celebrate the birthday of a family member. I think it is appropriate to celebrate the Lord's birthday for those who choose to do so. This lead us to many questions such as : Jesus was not born in December? What about the pagan origin? Santa clause, e.t.c First, a person who was born on February 29 (leap year) only celebrate his birthday after 4 years, is it sinful to chose another day to celebrate it ? I personally do not think so. Likewise, I see no harm in celebrating Jesus' birthday on December 25th,even if His actual birthday rests in a different month and date.I think it is a wonderful thing to celebrate the birth of the Savior, God's gift to mankind. Doesn't Christmas has pagan origin ? So does the names of the week, if your birthday fall in Saturday (Saturn) will you celebrate it as a devoted christian because Saturn is one of the pagan gods? The truth is that Christians today celebrate the holiday in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MANNER. There are many wonderful Gospel hymns which have been written to worship Jesus at Christmas time; such as, Silent Night, Hark The Herald Angels Sing, Oh Little Town Of Bethlehem, Joy To The World. I think it would be a mistake to overlook Christmas entirely, and miss out on the opportunity to witness to the lost during the emotional Christmas season. Many hearts have been turned to the Lord during the Christmas holiday , is it sinful to present track to the lost ?No evidence exists that the Christian leaders who began this practice consciously wanted to compromise with paganism. In conclusion, there are two ways in celebrating Christmas; Conclusion 1. The Worldly Way : Santa Claus, the north pole, elves, , secular songs about Christmas, booze, parties, Rock music,et cetera. 2. The Christian Way: Jesus Christ, Christmas carols, soulwinning, a nativity scene, helping the poor in Jesus' name, et cetera. Romans 14:5-6 One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. LET EACH MAN BE FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND . HE WHO OBSERVES THE DAY OBSERVES IT FOR THE LORD , and he who eats, does so for the Lord, FOR HE GIVES THANKS TO GOD ; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and GIVES THANKS TO GOD . HAPPY CHRISTMAS. 38 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 9:47am On Dec 15, 2015 |
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Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by Appleyard(m): 11:04am On Dec 15, 2015 |
No matter how well we try to make an unbiblical act acceptable, it will never be acceptable. The bible made it clear that ''...all liars shall have their own part in the lake of fire''...REV.21 vs 8, vs 27. The Roman Catholic Church, as part of their creeds and dogmas, maketh a lie, eshrined it as a doctrine, and enforced it on the rest of mankind, as at when Rome was ruling the world. It was a lie that was made to be accepted as truth, but God does not change his standards to suit anyone, or accomodate any practise contrary to His word. God hate lies, and the Roman Catholic Church lied when it said and indoctrinated it's followers and much of the world that, Jesus was born on the 25th of December, when it is not. The bible clearly said that ''shepherds were in the field watching over their flock by night''. You can't be in the field under SNOW watching over flocks in the chilling December. It was a big lie, and, irrespective of whatever it was meant to achieve, justifying the christmas lie, is tantamount to accepting lie as a norm of worship, and therefore, unsinful. But thank God, it can never be. For a lie is a lie. The truth remain truth! Therefore, all those who created this lie, and those that takes pleasure in celebrating this lie, even knowingly, are guilty of the same offence. Romans 1 vs 32. The only thing Jesus asked us to do in rememberance of him, is the Lord's Super. Luke.22 vs 19, not his birth. The choice to live the truth or to live the lie, is now yours to make. 75 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 11:38am On Dec 15, 2015 |
Appleyard:Thank you for your wonderful contribution. Yes, God hate lies, but the bible did not mention the day Jesus was born, chosen December 25 to celebrate Jesus does not mean "its a lie" it is just choice. Christians Lerders who first celebrate Christmas never compromise it with paganism, They may simply have wanted to celebrate the birth of Jesus. However, modern scholars generally agree that the date they chose for Christmas was influenced by a pagan celebration on or about that same date honoring the “Invincible Sun.” How much freedom do Christians have in the new covenant,either individually or as a church, to express their faith, worship and thanks toward Christ in forms not found in the Bible? May church leaders establish special days to celebrate the great acts of salvation? “Once pagan, always pagan” is the way some people reason. Malachi 4:2 2 But for you who revere my name,the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolics like well-fed calves. Christians who keep Christmas are not pagans. They do not worship nor regard pagan gods. They honor Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. It is true that certain customs attached to December 25 are practiced in a pagan spirit by many people. But a truly Christian observance of Christmas does not include drunkenness, fornication,carousing or any other conduct unworthy of saints. After all the entrance of Jesus into the world cause a GREAT JOY OF CELEBRATION IN HEAVEN in Luke 1:46–2:38. 33 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by Rilwayne001: 12:38pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Does OLADEEGBU celebrate christmas? OP, Deeper Life Bible Church don't celebrate christmas simply because Kumuyi said it is of pagan origin, how about that? 5 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 4:12pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Christmas has a pagan origin, so does the names of the week. I know, deeper life don't celebrate Christmas, it is not a sin. 1 Like |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by Rilwayne001: 4:29pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Oh well! But you are quick to copy and paste those alleged pagan practice in Islam? 10 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by tpiar: 5:32pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
well, not everybody celebrates Christmas. |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by Image123(m): 5:48pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Celebrate Jesus. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 5:59pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:the big different is that,the bible did not mention the word Christmas. But doing tawaf between safa and marwa is mention in both the quran and hadith, muhammed even admits, the pagan do it. 1 Like |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by CAPTIVATOR: 6:55pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
This is what happens when the love of joloffrice and chicken superceeds Gods Word .. How do we know a celebration is christian ? It must be biblical supported , any doctrine or celebration not supported in the bible IS NOT INSPIRED OF GOD !!! (1joHn 4:1 , 2 TIM 3:16 ) @ OP - Show me where Jesus Command Christmas ? - Show me where the Apostles celebrate the birthday of Jesus ? - Show me where Jesus Himself Celebrate his birthday ? - If birthday celebrations are inspired of God , why didnt we found a single servant of God celebrating his birthday in the bible ? - According to the bible , birthday celebration is found among whom ... Servants of God OR PAGANS ? 33 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by pamcode(m): 8:13pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
I don't believe it wrong as long as no part of the scriptures is broken when celebrating and it is done With a pure heart and urge to grow closer to God and other humans. As for me i and my family will celebrate christmas 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by falopey: 8:42pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR: Brother, let us stop being hypocritical here. The bible has made it clear in Rm 14:5-6 when new christian converts among the jews and the gentiles were arguing on what celebration to observe and what not to observe. Some converts that were of jewish origin were still attached to some jewish celebrations like the feast of unleaven bread and so on while those of greek origin or gentiles did not know anything about such celebrations. Some thought they should not celebrate while some thought maybe they should celebrate something else. The jewish christians among them still held fast to sabath while some of the gentile christians never even practised sabath before because they were not of jewish tradition or origin. They were idolaters before their conversion. the argumentbof whether to observe some celebrations or discard some celebrations ensued between them. That why paul told them that whether the scripture say you should observe some days or notis not the question. Hence the Romans 14:5-6 One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. LET EACH MAN BE FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND . HE WHO OBSERVES THE DAY OBSERVES IT FOR THE LORD , and he who eats, does so for the Lord, FOR HE GIVES THANKS TO GOD ; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and GIVES THANKS TO GOD . A lot of things we do are not ordered by the bible, but we alow the holy spirit to guide us to know if we are committing sin doing it or not. For example: we build places of whorship today when Jesus did not even build one or order his deciples to do the same. christians in those days were found of whorshipping in brethren house. We celebrate naming ceremony today. we eat and merry with neighbours and loved ones. does the bible order that kind of celebration? None of the biblical christians did the same. Celebrating this anniversary and that anniversary in the church. where do christian celebrate whatever anniversary in the bible? And to you all these are not sins. But celebrating the birth of Jesus. Everybody celebrate the transition unto glory of their aged. please give me an example of a place where funneral ceremony is celebrated in the bible. and to you its worth it. except celebrating the birth of the lord. Jesus told the desciples that the holy spirit would teach them in many things. in that case Jesus directly or indirectly admit to them that he could not teach them everything they had to know until he would be received into heaven. While we should be giving God thanks everyday, in churches today, we dedicate a special sunday as thanks giving sunday. please where was that practiced in the bible? But we know what is right and that is unto the glory of god and we do it. but to appreciate the birth of Jesus christ by celebrating it is a sin to you because bible does not say so. we go to church on sunday. Where is that written in the bible. even that same Romans 14:5-6 has settle the issue of Sabbath worship. Why do you celebrate new year celebration? is it because the bible tells you to do it or any of the apostles celebrated it? I can go on and on but I will leave the rest to you to think on so many things you do that bible does not order to do. And that are not sins anyway. 58 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 9:29pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:falopey God bless you. The apostles do not celebrate the birthday of Jesus, but the Heavenly HOST rejoice when the announcement Of Jesus birth is known. Luke 2:8-14 In the same region there were some shepherds staying out in the fields and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened. But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people;for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger." And suddenly there appeared with the angel A MULTITUDE OF HEAVENLY HOST PRAISING GOD and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased." 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by mustymatic(m): 1:03am On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212:You can't compare what God has ordered n what people like you invented.... who knows how many 5 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 7:00am On Dec 16, 2015 |
mustymatic:so why will God incorporate the worship of pagan into islam ? 4 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by CAPTIVATOR: 2:16pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Why didnt the apostles who knew this use it as evidence for a pagan custom like christmas like u are doing ? Am wondering where u guys get ur inspirations from ( 1john 4:1 ) - infact , as at when the angels do this .. Jesus was still a baby NOT SOMETHING DONE YEAR AFTER YEAR , please is Jesus still a baby right now ?? 7 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by CAPTIVATOR: 3:35pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
falopeyDont bring christmas here pls !!! The days in Romans 14:5,6 Are Actually The Jewish Celebrations COMMANDED BY GOD before Christ Came, am happy you indicate that at bold ..... Is christmas commanded by God Or a Man - Made command ?
But we found in the scipture that God APPRECIATES building a house specifically for his worship ? ( 2 chronicles 6:8 ) contrary to christmas/birthday celebration that has no basis in the scripture
You are right!!! The bible did not order naming ceremony , i wonder why people do it ? Its unscriptural like its friend Christmas .
Yes ! Its Another Hole in christendom .
Swallow the undelined , funeral ceremonies are not biblical ; dancin with a casket , putting money in the casket of a dead man e.t.c and some other paganic custom associated with funerals are all pure dillusion like christmas
But yet the apostles did not celebrate Jesus Birthday ... !
Who Asked you to dedicate a special sunday as thanksgving ... Uh ? Thats funny
Heb 10:24,25 said true christians must regularly meet together , I enjoyed a weekly routine of bible study not just sunday alone . Many chose sunday to OBEY HEB 10:24,25 BECAUSE IT A DAY OFF FROM WORK , whereas christmas has no basis in the scripture .
New year celebration is unbiblical nd paganic like its fellow christmas . 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by mustymatic(m): 3:47pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212:read into it well...the pagans incorporated into it first 1 Like |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 4:29pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:its seems like you find delight in argument, read the op very well one more time. The disciples did not celebrate Christmas , but there were Great rejoicing in heaven when the announcement came. The point is , those who chose to celebrate it do it in perfect way to Honor Jesus, we celebrate Jesus. And those who chose not to celebrate are not disobeying God, because no command was given to celebrate. If you insist in arguing, I will not reply you. Thank you. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:32pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Lol people who read the headline and jump into arguments ... brother please forgive them 1 Like |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 4:32pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
mustymatic:I don't want to argued with you muslims, but you keep on quoting me. The hadith say We use to considered going around the mountain till islam CAME. |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 4:36pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:Weldon my brother, he was trying to say, it is wrong to celebrate Jesus. The devil is a liar. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:40pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: This statement you made killed the argument especially @ bold malvisguy212: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:27pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Perfect way indeeed !!! No wonder it falls on the same day with pagan celebration . Both falls on December 25 , ![]()
" the day of death is better than the day of birth" ecc 7:1 , na wa oh ! Celebrating Jesus Birth which he didnt command makes sense to you ! Jesus Knew Ecclesiastes 7:1 So well , not suprised he institutes the remembrance of his DEATH (luke 22:19) but never his birth . 7 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:30pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Its indeed perfect , aftrall you will be dining with followers of sun god on the same day . Makes much sense ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 8:48pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:alright. 1 Like |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by sagieramos(m): 8:51pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
yes, celebrating xmas is wrong. santa claus/father xmas obviously look like a masqurade rather than something holy. my instinct tells me something is'nt right with mere looking at him 2 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by malvisguy212: 9:02pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
sagieramos:are you a christian ? Is celebrating the birth of Jesus wrong ? Santa claus is not biblical. |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by Image123(m): 9:02pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. That's pretty clear and straight forward. BTW, i don't esteem Christmas day, but judging others for esteeming it is childish, carnal, ITK and not spiritual. 1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by sagieramos(m): 10:14pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: celebrating jesus birth should be right if he had asked us to do so, but now that we never recieve any instruction on that, it's either right or wrong. we all observe what happen around and during xmas period: kidnapping, robery, ritual and all sort of evil things skyrocket. i don't think an holy being could inspire a celebration that give rise to these evil thing i mension above 2 Likes |
Re: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by nabiz(m): 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
The person that invented christmas must have been a yeroba man. This people love party die. Lol. To me I think we should pay more attention in keeping his commandment than all these celebration. U can only show that love christ by keeping his commandment and not by celebrating his birth. The day dearth of any body is better than the day of his birth. A person can be born and become a problem in the society and die as a sinner. So a situation like that what is the need for all the birth day he celebrated. It is better to celebrate the dearth of a righteous man because he lived a fulfilled life. The worst thing is that a lot of people have lost their life because of birth day celebration, starting from the dearth of john the baptist to these our adulterous and ritual celebration. I Celebrating or appreciating the birth of Jesus christ should be everyday thing and not because he was born, but because die which brough the fulfilment of God's promise. I think we should appreciate him by trying our best to keep his commandment as he said IF U LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENT. Though there may be reasons to celebrate the birth of our lord Jesus christ, but I think we have to be careful because satan has hyjack christmas looking at the end product of christmas. To me it is an act of hypocrite to celebrate his birth without trying to keep his commandment, as his birth and death will only benefit those that find joy in obeying his commandment. May Peace be unto us 1 Like |
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