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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:54pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


The truth is Mourinho's methods were unsustainable over the long haul

His methods are simply to fight every single person around. He wins by making enemies. But when there are no more enemies to make you turn inwards and turn your own staffs into enemies

Actually in Madrid history since I started following football, No madrid coach was given the type of control Mourinho had. Mourinho sacked Jorge Valdano a former player, former coach and Director. Perez got rid of Valdano for Mourinho. Thats as big as it gets

In his first time in England he fought every single person, later turned on his team

In Italy his first job was to figt every single person and coach which was one of the reasons he had to leave immediately

In madrid he fought opponents, Management, players, referees

Need I remind you he was one of the reasons Andres frisk retired because death threats were sent to the best referee in Europe

He came to Chelsea picked up from where he started fought everyone outside, later came inside fought his own staff for treating players, fought the media, fought the FA now his own players

Ferguson despite his own ego was still loved by most of his ex-players, loved by the club and even respected by other coaches

Story...

Ferguson has to be loved because he is part of the club...if you don't tow the line, you get kicked out..

Please don't tell me about Mourinho's methods being unsustainable because that is a lie....Outside Wenger, who now has the sustainable methods? Where are they sustaining?

Player power is the biggest enemy of any Football Manager. The most disposable element to any football team is the manager.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:55pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:


Of course the coach is the common denominator in the 2 cases...he is the one who got snitched isn't he?

Mourinho's methods are not for everyone and not everybody will like him. That's not new.

The issue here is that his subordinates are so powerful that they can undermine him if they feel they don't like him or his methods.

Ferguson was known to be very harsh to his players. He even used boot to bust David Beckham's head...Yet not one single player could dare go to the club chairman and threaten to walk if SAF wasn't fired like Sergio Ramos and Casillas did. Ferguson would not keep mention 'betrayal' and 'rats' to the media...He would have slaughtered the offending players like ileya meat.

That's because Ferguson had something that only Arsene Wenger has in football today - The complete and utter backing of the board.

No other manager in the world has that. And someone as abrasive as Mourinho definitely needs the boards backing 200%.

The man came to win. Not to make friends with his boys....

Football is probably the only industry where you can sack your line manager if you don't like him...

Speaking of line managers...mine is now away till the new year. I can now remove my tie and maximise my incognito window grin grin. Just imagine if I could sack him for the tone of some of his emails... tongue


Nihilist have you ever wondered why only Chelsea fans and those who have a soft spot have this view about JM?
The truthful answer will tell you why Jose will never get any board's 100% backing.

In most cases, if you are not a Chelsea fan, you dislike Jose. Not for his performances but his attitude.
The same is hardly echoed about Ferguson.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by barackohandso(m): 5:56pm On Dec 17, 2015
dmcdad:

Chai!

Legend indeed!

Barackohandso, them don start to dey share Legend again ooooo. Better come collect your own before its late

And for the records, there is absolutely no need with the fasting anymore. Abi wetin you think?

Meanwhile, as you dey think the matter, use this one cool temper.cheesy


I don show oh. I no fit carry last
Be like say na legend week we dey



Where e dey abeg? No time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pelvicky(m): 6:00pm On Dec 17, 2015
Mourinho Eyes Nigeria Super Eagles Coach Position.....Mikel to be captain
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 6:00pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:


First time out he was a god. Brought glory to the club. But then, we still managed to win trophies without him and without the drama and ego and so I came to realize it wasn't necessarily about him but about the money available to get only the best players and the philosophy of Roman that failure wasn't an option.
In other words, I wasn't keen about him coming a second time. Too much drama and ego, not my thing. We appreciate all he did for us but his ego was against him this time out.

nateevs:



I don't loathe him. I totally dislike his methods. And I always go on record saying his ways cannot be sustained and that his sacking is almost always inevitable unless he leaves voluntarily after 2 seasons. By his second year, he is already having fights with everyone around and going from the most loved and respected by his players to having a toxic dressing room and looking a proper villain in their eyes.

3rd season on, it is happening again.


I thank him for contributing "in no small measure" to the club's successes in the recent years but I thank the £500m spent by Roman in the same period, even more.

In pillorying Mourinho, you guys are inadvertently lending credence to the traducer's voice when he says we "bought our way to success".



Issokay.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:02pm On Dec 17, 2015
I like this comment:

Wanted by #cfc: a manager who doesn't pick fights, who doesn't park the bus, who gives youth a chance and who listens to the doctor.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:06pm On Dec 17, 2015
nateevs:



Nihilist have you ever wondered why only Chelsea fans and those who have a soft spot have this view about JM?
The truthful answer will tell you why Jose will never get any board's 100% backing.

In most cases, if you are not a Chelsea fan, you dislike Jose. Not for his performances but his attitude.
The same is hardly echoed about Ferguson.
Ahhh...Ferguson's achievements are respected...but the man himself is soundly hated by many Non-United fans...

You seem to have forgotten how Ferguson behaved during the rivalry with Wenger, how Benitez came out to rant about him. How he called City a small club with small mentality. How he boycotted talking to BBC. Plus he busted open Beckham's head with a football boot.

Mourinho will never be fully backed by the boards at the kind of clubs that can afford his services, simply because the the kind of players at those clubs are always global superstars who wield enormous player power.

Ok look at Benitez at Madrid...The players reportedly don't like him there and there are rumours that he will be sacked sooon. Look at Barca and what nearly happened with Luis Enrique. Tata Martinez was reportedly signed because of Messi's request...

If you think likeability is a factor when it comes to employment in football, then you are on a long thing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 6:09pm On Dec 17, 2015
Goodbye boss.....Goodbye Mourinho...
I have a lot of words to type,thousands.... But they keep colliding and blocking one another from getting out.......

So I won't really say much......

Just rest,chill with your 40m.....Sabbatical things...A much needed rest...
Update tactics (more attacking) and come back fired up......
No matter how much I love you ,I can't absorb you of all the blame.....

Final order as a Blue- Don't dare move to that wretched team in Manchester

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:11pm On Dec 17, 2015
Bimffo:
Apparently Jose Mourinho turned down the £40m Severance package and told them to use it to "rebuild the club"..

Always thinking of us. cry cry cry

Baba take am easy na!.... turn down (masterkraft)...abi turn up (olamide)

Analysis - BBC sports editor Dan Roan

"Jose Mourinho had a meeting with the club at around 14:30 GMT,
when he was told the end had come.

"He won't be paid the £40m compensation speculated. My
understanding is he has been paid until the end of this season, what
was left of the annual salary of £12m he receives.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 6:11pm On Dec 17, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Maybe Mourinholic will change moniker again....

Simeonelic... grin

Raumdeuter you never answer...

Pep leaving?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:14pm On Dec 17, 2015
Mourinholic:
Goodbye boss.....Goodbye Mourinho...
I have a lot of words to type,thousands.... But they keep colliding and blocking one another from getting out.......

So I won't really say much......

Just rest,chill with your 40m.....Sabbatical things...A much needed rest...
Update tactics (more attacking) and come back fired up......
No matter how much I love you ,I can't absorb you of all the blame.....

Final order as a Blue- Don't dare that wretched team in Manchester

farewell. ...With the remainder of his salary. ... not 40 milla

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 6:15pm On Dec 17, 2015
Mourinholic signing out
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 6:15pm On Dec 17, 2015
pelvicky:
Mourinho Eyes Nigeria Super Eagles
Coach Position
.....Mikel to be captain

I can assure you Nigeria would win the World Cup... cheesy

How?

10 man defense...As in everybody pack the bus... grin

1-0 is enough for every game... grin

With fast counter-attack... We are good at winning Russia 2018 world cup... cool

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:18pm On Dec 17, 2015
coded01:


Pep leaving?

90% positive he will leave. ... dat guy na modern day boss... doesn't want to risk being fired!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by landinfo: 6:18pm On Dec 17, 2015
I get angry when pple use the word Player-Power esp cum-ing from toolz that would die for Manrihno but these same toolz were happy to use the word Player-Power when AVB & Felipe Scolari were sacked
What utter nonsense from Hypocritez who are worse off than Judas Iscariot......whaty is good for the goose IS NEVER for the gander abi Mtscheeeeew
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:18pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
Story...

Ferguson has to be loved because he is part of the club...if you don't tow the line, you get kicked out..

Please don't tell me about Mourinho's methods being unsustainable because that is a lie....Outside Wenger, who now has the sustainable methods? Where are they sustaining?

Player power is the biggest enemy of any Football Manager. The most disposable element to any football team is the manager.

Player power has been ever since and it hasnt stopped some coaches
Ancelotti is loved by most of his players, Pep is loved by most of his players, Simeone is loved by most of his players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 6:21pm On Dec 17, 2015
elrony:


90% positive he will leave. ... dat guy na modern day boss... doesn't want to risk being fired!

As in mafian-style... grin


So all these big teams just dey rotate coach anyhow...imagine Ancelotti coaching Bayern...Money things... lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by barackohandso(m): 6:21pm On Dec 17, 2015
After now dem go say our fasting and prayer no dey work. See dem don sack Mourinho now, na one sign of the fasting and prayer be that oh

Cc: dmcdad, pamcode, chelseafan1, coded01, sebod
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 6:24pm On Dec 17, 2015
barackohandso:
After now dem go say our fasting and prayer no dey work. See dem don sack Mourinho now, na one sign of the fasting and prayer be that oh

Cc: dmcdad, pamcofe, chelseafan1, coded01, sebod

Abeggi... grin


Jokes aside... What do you expect from Chelsea this season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:26pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:

Ahhh...Ferguson's achievements are respected...but the man himself is soundly hated by many Non-United fans...

You seem to have forgotten how Ferguson behaved during the rivalry with Wenger, how Benitez came out to rant about him. How he called City a small club with small mentality. How he boycotted talking to BBC. Plus he busted open Beckham's head with a football boot.

Mourinho will never be fully backed by the boards at the kind of clubs that can afford his services, simply because the the kind of players at those clubs are always global superstars who wield enormous player power.

Ok look at Benitez at Madrid...The players reportedly don't like him there and there are rumours that he will be sacked sooon. Look at Barca and what nearly happened with Luis Enrique. Tata Martinez was reportedly signed because of Messi's request...

If you think likeability is a factor when it comes to employment in football, then you are on a long thing.

Who are the global superstars in Chelsea that are more than we have at Bayern, PSG, Man City man utd.

Simeone, Pep Ancelotti even Pellegrini are all coaches of top clubs, Enrique also

Why is it that only Mourinho gets into open fights with his players

It happened in madrid, It happened in Chelsea. The same Chelsea where he was worshipped and he could do as he wanted

Players are global superstars and would throw tantrums. Ferguson knew when to send out Beckham and Stam and when to literarily beg Ronaldo and Rooney

Pep knew how to call Zlatans or Etoo bluff and how to worship Xavi or Messi

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:27pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Player power has been ever since and it hasnt stopped some coaches
Ancelotti is loved by most of his players, Pep is loved by most of his players, Simeone is loved by most of his players

Hasnt stopped some coaches doing what? Abi what are you going on about?

Jose has now been sacked from 2 clubs that are notorious for players undermining their manager

Jose is not the first Madrid manager to be sabotaged by his players

He's not the first Chelsea manager to be sabotaged by his players either...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by barackohandso(m): 6:30pm On Dec 17, 2015
coded01:


Abeggi... grin


Jokes aside... What do you expect from Chelsea this season?


Their season is already in shambles. It'll take a miracle for them to end in the top 10 no matter how positively jose's replacement performs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hariorh: 6:30pm On Dec 17, 2015
nitlad:




In pillorying Mourinho, you guys are inadvertently lending credence to the traducer's voice when he says we "bought our way to success".



Issokay.

No be part of am? undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 6:32pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Who are the global superstars in Chelsea that are more than we have at Bayern, PSG, Man City man utd.

Simeone, Pep Ancelotti even Pellegrini are all coaches of top clubs, Enrique also

Why is it that only Mourinho gets into open fights with his players

It happened in madrid, It happened in Chelsea. The same Chelsea where he was worshipped and he could do as he wanted

Enrique almost got sacked by Messi

Ancelotti is still currently unemployed despite his 'likeability' and has been sacked 3 times in the last 5 years...

So what point have you made?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:32pm On Dec 17, 2015
nitlad:




In pillorying Mourinho, you guys are inadvertently lending credence to the traducer's voice when he says we "bought our way to success".



Issokay.

You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hariorh: 6:35pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:


You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.


And while at Porto?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
Hasnt stopped some coaches doing what? Abi what are you going on about?
Jose has now been sacked from 2 clubs that are notorious for players undermining their manager
Jose is not the first Madrid manager to be sabotaged by his players
He's not the first Chelsea manager to be sabotaged by his players either...

Ancelotti coached madrid, Pellgrini coached Madrid both before and after. None would claim they were sabotaged by the players

There would always be dissident players and management involves managing players egos also

Pep was succesfull despite having dissident players and it wasnt like he was given the keys to run the club, Simeone has been succesful so far, Ancelotti has been succesful in his previous appointments managing players
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:36pm On Dec 17, 2015
coded01:


As in mafian-style... grin


So all these big teams just dey rotate coach anyhow...imagine Ancelotti coaching Bayern...Money things... lipsrsealed

lol ....Money is a factor. ..and top managers are few
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:37pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
Enrique almost got sacked by Messi

Ancelotti is still currently unemployed despite his 'likeability' and has been sacked 3 times in the last 5 years...

So what point have you made?

Almost? Jose wasnt just almost sacked he was actually fired not once not twice 3 times in the last decade

Ancelotti would never claim it was player sabotage that got him fired like Mourinho

Mourinho was fired for incompetence.

As at today Mourinho left Chelsea 16th on the table. Take a snapshot of it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 6:37pm On Dec 17, 2015
The whole football world has been thrown into mourning. So there is an attempt to diffuse the regular gladness of heart watching this Chelshit lose every other week?

A sad day for football fans angry angry


cc Airbornelacer wink

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tng(f): 6:40pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:


You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.

So how about the FA cup and is it Cup winners Cup? Was that during Roman too?

Truth is we have once more seen player power at play at the club and this is what would keep us in the lower rung for a long time with all of Romans money.

Jose has to take some part of the blame too though. Sad it had to end this way.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:41pm On Dec 17, 2015
nitlad:
In pillorying Mourinho, you guys are inadvertently lending credence to the traducer's voice when he says we "bought our way to success".
Issokay.

Shey na lie?

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