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MH17: Australia Say Russia Not To Blame, Evidence Tampered With
Submitted by IWB, on December 16th, 2015

by Sean Adl-Tabataba i


The official Australian investigation into the cause of the crash of Malaysian Airlines MH17 have accused the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) of failing to provide “conclusive evidence” of what exactly destroyed the aircraft, and say that Russia did not shoot down the plane despite accusations to the contrary from DSB.
The senior Australian policeman investigating the MH17 crash, Detective Superintendent Andrew Donoghue, testified in an international court recently saying that a “tougher standard than the DSB report” is required before the criminal investigation can identify the weapon that caused the crash.
Donoghue also testified that ten months after the crash, only half of the planes fuselage fragments were handed over for inspection and that “some fragments were not consistent with debris of the aircraft”.
www.Johnhelmer.net reports:
Their criminal investigation will continue into 2016, Donoghue told the Victorian Coroners Court (lead image) on Tuesday morning. He and other international investigators are unconvinced by reports from the US and Ukrainian governments, and by the DSB, of a Buk missile firing. “Dutch prosecutors require conclusive evidence on other types of missile,” Donoghue said, intimating that “initial information that the aircraft was shot down by a [Buk] surface to air missile” did not meet the Australian or international standard of evidence.

The Coroners Court in Melbourne is the first in the world to hold an inquest into the MH17 crash on July 17, 2014, and the cause of death of those on board. Iain West , the deputy state coroner presided, after the state coroner, Judge Ian Gray, withdrew at the last minute. The inquest opened for a single hour of hearing on Tuesday. A second hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, when West will announce his findings. In the UK, where an investigation into the death of 10 British nationals, is being supervised by Leicestershire coroner, Catherine Mason, all court proceedings have been suspended without a date being set for inquest. It was reported in the Melbourne court that British post-mortem experts participated in the Dutch investigations, alongside Australian, Dutch, and German teams, plus a joint Indonesian-Malaysian group.

In the Melbourne courtroom, press reporters outnumbered representatives of the families of several of the victims. Of the 28 Australian citizens killed, 11 were from Victoria state; 10 were permanent residents of Australia; and 3 had close ties to Australia. A local newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch reported from the courtroom “the Kuala Lumpur-bound Malaysia Airlines flight… was hit by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile over eastern Ukraine”. In fact, Donoghue of the AFP said this was an unverified claim by the DSB for “a missile of a type previously provided to Ukraine.”
In court, in addition to members of the Coroner’s staff, there was one government intelligence agent who kept his official identification tag inside his coat, and refused to say whether he was an Australian or American national.
Donoghue was the lead witness. He continues to direct a team of 22 Australian police, forensic specialists and intelligent agents stationed in The Netherlands and Ukraine. He was followed by Dr David Ranson (right), a Victorian pathologist who led a team of 4; they worked at the Dutch military base at Hilversum in July and August of 2014, after the bodies of the MH17 victims were taken there for identification and forensic analysis. Donoghue said a full report by the AFP had been included in the coroner’s evidence. Ranson has filed two reports with the coroner – one of August 25, 2014, and one on December 16, 2014. So far the Coroner has classified these documents as secret.

Testifying on oath, Donoghue revealed for the first time that the Australian government had quietly negotiated two agreements to investigate the crash site in eastern Ukraine. The first, he said, was with the Ukrainian government in Kiev for security around the crash site. The second was with Novorussian leaders in order for the Australians to carry out their searches for victims’ bodies, personal property and other evidence, as well as to run a command post in Donetsk city. Political recognition by the Australians of the separatists has never been acknowledged before. Donoghue refused to say who signed the agreement for the Novorussians.

more below...

So much for Western hypocrisy.

Continuation...

For the first time also, Donoghue acknowledged publicly that the international investigators had had “no ability to collect aircraft parts or other debris”. It was not until May 2015, he added, that forensic examination of the aircraft began.

DUTCH SAFETY BOARD TAMPERING WITH MH17 FUSELAGE EVIDENCE

The recovered aircraft wreckage was first photographed and registered in The Netherlands by the DSB. Image-1 shows the first DSB photograph, with a single hole visible. Image-2 shows that a new photograph published by DSB reveals a second hole. See here.
In his testimony Donoghue said that ten months after the crash, and after Kiev officials had handed over less than half the fuselage fragments to the Dutch, the discovery was made of “some fragments not consistent with debris of the aircraft”. Had he found shrapnel from an explosive device, missile or cannon? Donoghue refused to answer. The deaths of the passengers, he testified, had been caused by “inflight breakup [of the aircraft] and immediate decompression”, not by munitions. The lack of shrapnel as evidence of cause of death is analysed here.

Australian police calls for Ukrainian witnesses on the ground, who may have seen or heard what happened on the fateful day, were issued in March 2015, and then again in June. Some of those who came forward to testify refused to do so, Donoghue said Tuesday, unless the Australian and Dutch police protected them in “a safe location”; excluded Ukrainian government officials; and kept the identities of the witnesses secret.


Asked whether there had been any evidence of disrespect towards the victims’ bodies on the ground – as has been claimed in reporting by the Murdoch media — Donoghue testified: “there was no evidence of disrespect towards the bodies.”
Ranson, who is an associate professor of forensic pathology and deputy director of the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine, told the court he and his team had spent two and half weeks studying the victims’ bodies at Hilversum. There, he confirmed, X-rays and CT scans were carried out and more than 700 autopsies. He testified that when the Australian victims’ bodies were repatriated to the morgue at the Coroners Court, another CT scan was taken of each body, and matched against the scan taken at Hilversum. Ranson’s reports ruling out the presence of shrapnel from a missile strike in any of the MH17 bodies have been kept secret to date. Read more here:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/mh17-australia-say-russia-not-to-blame-evidence-tampered-with/

cc Nairaminted, Cyprus000, Shymm3x: seems the hegemon gat a car who is refusing to follow the Russian-hate unison track.

To the haters and ukie junta dancers, i guess Mr Putin is paying Australia well, eh?

Everfrank:
So much for Western hypocrisy.

I tell ya. West lying even before Satan was formed.

I don't see how this exonerates Russia.From the looks of things,the investigations are still inconclusive.In the light of more evidence,acquisition of more debris and further test would determine if Russia is truly guilty or not.Till then Russia appears to be favoured currently by lack of evidence and a dwindling opinion of it being guilty due to lack of substantial evidence.

ValerianSteel:
I don't see how this exonerates Russia.

Shut up! For every good reason there is to lie, there is a better reason to tell the truth.

Vladimirovich Putin; sit at my right hand and sip a bottle of Russia vodka, while I make the AngloZionist vampires & their sympathizers your footstool.

Like I have been saying from the very beginning, MH17 looks like a false flag operation - or at the very best like a mistake from the Ukies which they have tried to pin on the Russians.

As the months pass by, all shall be unraveled.

cyprus000:
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What else do you expect from western media,which specialize in pillaging on the collective "common sense" of feeble minds.

An emotive media kind of maneuvering, designed to incite further indignation
and reinforce the image of Russia as being the enemy(bad guy).
They distorted fact on crimes committed by Ukrainian militias or the Neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalions, in attempt to manipulate their zombies.

this is a region closely monitored by the US, NATO and Russia by satellite and radar throughout the entire conflict. If a missile had been fired at MH17,
why not provide satellite data and radar
signatures to corroborated their
story. The US, NATO and Ukraine all
declined thus far to produce any such
evidence: all they did is provide
magically recovered passports with no burn-damage, the discernible,as evidence (and immediately pursued) Geo-Political agenda, even the citing of Social Media reports and You tube footage as ‘proof’. Same way western military agencies faked hundreds (if not thousands) of twitter and social-media accounts and passed them off as being the accounts of civilian ‘protesters’, as well as putting out hundreds of clearly fake You Tube videos allegedly showing ‘crimes’ of the then Libyan government forces. These fake accounts, videos and posts were then cited frequently by mainstream/corporate media outlets as ‘proof’ that the late Gaddafi and the Libyan government was attacking its own people.(No actual proof provided)..*spit*.

Even when russia provided a detailed account of the final movement of MH-17, which Russian radar, spotted a second aircraft in the vicinity shortly before the crash and the satellite imagery showing Ukraine had moved missile systems into the
area before the incident. Western media
commentators dismissed this Russian data as faked. Despite the fact that russia demanded that the black box recording which is in possession of US, be released. We haven't seen black box recording,nor did US/ukrian provide any sattellite or radar proof.

Thank God for few sincere australian's who where sincere enough to release a footage which corroborate with russian proof on how a Ukrainian SU-2t5 fighter jet equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles was detected within 5-10 km of the
Malaysian passenger plane, and was moving within an air-corridor usually reserved for commercial aircraft.

To think that dutch in collaborration with it imperial master's will distort and implant foreign debris, just to dish out fallacy and lies for the insatiable apetite of her zombies. Is unsurprising to me. I was watching CNN in a stolid mode,when it bastardize and discredited factual report from russia and the manufacturer, and I begin to wonder. How hard it is for all this western zombies to read between lines. Why can't they see that the mainstream media are dishing out what they want them to believe(mind control).

There is no doubt that the smear on russian reputation on this matter, is a false flag operation from the west.

The only thing I believe from the west is "goodmorning","goodafternoon" and "goodevening". Even at that. I still research to ascertain wether it is true or not.

I personally feel sorry for all this western zombies costituting nuisance in this corner of our cyber space.
The way they exibit ignorance and consummate lunacy. Is a pity to them and a threat to sane minds.

I have tried to engage some of them,but I dont want to wallow in their paradise of illusion and groose ignorance. I'm not tolerant when dealing with their type. I will go ballistic, trying to open their sixth sense. so as to allow the wave of common sense to penetrate their zombiedized skull.
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bros, you dun talk am finish.

Twuale for you.

ValerianSteel:
I don't see how this exonerates Russia.From the looks of things,the investigations are still inconclusive.In the light of more evidence,acquisition of more debris and further test would determine if Russia is truly guilty or not.Till then Russia appears to be favoured currently by lack of evidence and a dwindling opinion of it being guilty due to lack of substantial evidence.

Australia just dismantled the popular mantra ''Russia did it''. yeah, you cant see it, because you still cant comprehend the fact that most of the DSB report and facts relied on, including the constitution of the panel from the word go, was a complete bull-shi*t. Neither did you see how the DSB tampered with the fuselages evidence as seen in the pics provided above. Brother, never cross the bridge until you get to it.

Zoharariel:


Shut up! For every good reason there is to lie, there is a better reason to tell the truth.

Vladimirovich Putin; sit at my right hand, till I make the AngloZionist vampires & their sympathizers your footstool.

thou shall have them in derision, and no weapon faction against thee shall prosper, thou servant of the most high. Vladimir Muhammadu Putin. Slayer of the empire of chaos and death, and lies.

cyprus000:
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What else do you expect from western media,which specialize in pillaging on the collective "common sense" of feeble minds.

An emotive media kind of maneuvering, designed to incite further indignation
and reinforce the image of Russia as being the enemy(bad guy).
They distorted fact on crimes committed by Ukrainian militias or the Neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalions, in attempt to manipulate their zombies.

this is a region closely monitored by the US, NATO and Russia by satellite and radar throughout the entire conflict. If a missile had been fired at MH17,
why not provide satellite data and radar
signatures to corroborated their
story. The US, NATO and Ukraine all
declined thus far to produce any such
evidence: all they did is provide
magically recovered passports with no burn-damage, the discernible,as evidence (and immediately pursued) Geo-Political agenda, even the citing of Social Media reports and You tube footage as ‘proof’. Same way western military agencies faked hundreds (if not thousands) of twitter and social-media accounts and passed them off as being the accounts of civilian ‘protesters’, as well as putting out hundreds of clearly fake You Tube videos allegedly showing ‘crimes’ of the then Libyan government forces. These fake accounts, videos and posts were then cited frequently by mainstream/corporate media outlets as ‘proof’ that the late Gaddafi and the Libyan government was attacking its own people.(No actual proof provided)..*spit*.

Even when russia provided a detailed account of the final movement of MH-17, which Russian radar, spotted a second aircraft in the vicinity shortly before the crash and the satellite imagery showing Ukraine had moved missile systems into the
area before the incident. Western media
commentators dismissed this Russian data as faked. Despite the fact that russia demanded that the black box recording which is in possession of US, be released. We haven't seen black box recording,nor did US/ukrian provide any sattellite or radar proof.

Thank God for few sincere australian's who where sincere enough to release a footage which corroborate with russian proof on how a Ukrainian SU-2t5 fighter jet equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles was detected within 5-10 km of the
Malaysian passenger plane, and was moving within an air-corridor usually reserved for commercial aircraft.

To think that dutch in collaborration with it imperial master's will distort and implant foreign debris, just to dish out fallacy and lies for the insatiable apetite of her zombies. Is unsurprising to me. I was watching CNN in a stolid mode,when it bastardize and discredited factual report from russia and the manufacturer, and I begin to wonder. How hard it is for all this western zombies to read between lines. Why can't they see that the mainstream media are dishing out what they want them to believe(mind control).

There is no doubt that the smear on russian reputation on this matter, is a false flag operation from the west.

The only thing I believe from the west is "goodmorning","goodafternoon" and "goodevening". Even at that. I still research to ascertain wether it is true or not.

I personally feel sorry for all this western zombies costituting nuisance in this corner of our cyber space.
The way they exibit ignorance and consummate lunacy. Is a pity to them and a threat to sane minds.

I have tried to engage some of them,but I dont want to wallow in their paradise of illusion and groose ignorance. I'm not tolerant when dealing with their type. I will go ballistic, trying to open their sixth sense. so as to allow the wave of common sense to penetrate their zombiedized skull.
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;DThats my homie, Cyprus000, who takes no prisoner of war against the Anglo Zionist Empire of death and their zombiefied cronies across the world wide web. It is even more pathetic that the DSB relied on as evidence, information provided by the Ukie junta, from ''the secondary radar'', and not from the ''primary radar''-- reason; because it was not active as at that time, sayeth the Junta. and some gullible minds fell for this.

Pathetic.

NairaMinted:
Like I have been saying from the very beginning, MH17 looks like a false flag operation - or at the very best like a mistake from the Ukies which they have tried to pin on the Russians.

As the months pass by, all shall be unraveled.

Its already unravelling.

Appleyard:
Australia just dismantled the popular mantra ''Russia did it''. yeah, you cant see it, because you still cant comprehend the fact that most of the DSB report and facts relied on, including the constitution of the panel from the word go, was a complete bull-shi*t. Neither did you see how the DSB tampered with the fuselages evidence as seen in the pics provided above. Brother, never cross the bridge until you get to it.

Like I said,Russia has not been proven innocent or guilty.The number of accusing fingers pointing at her have pulled back,reason why,lack of substantial evidence

Appleyard:
;DThats my homie, Cyprus000, who takes no prisoner of war against the Anglo Zionist Empire of death and their zombiefied cronies across the world wide web. It is even more pathetic that the DSB relied on as evidence, information provided by the Ukie junta, from ''the secondary radar'', and not from the ''primary radar''-- reason; because it was not active as at that time, sayeth the Junta. and some gullible minds fell for this.

Pathetic.

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Apple of jah. The one babylonians can't defeat & dem coulda never clone. keep on de-schematizing their maisma under all mantra.

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Sincerely speaking. I have tried not to sound myopic, but one can't suppress the truth in the bide not to sound myopic.

I followed this MH17 saga for quit a long time, and after accessing, compiling and looking at things objectively.
I asked myself. What will russia and the seperatist gain by downing a civilian aircraft,when this will sabotage their effort..nothing.
What about NATO and it ukrianian allies in a war they are already losing..they have everything to gain. cos by doing so. They can distort fact and indict russia and the seperatist in the court of public opinion. with the use of legal
maneuvering and its well-oiled press to turn the investigation of the disaster into a witchhunt with an inevitable outcome already eagerly determined to implicate Russia. There by inciting international community against russia and the seperatist. Which is what they did pre-emptively.
The Western media intentionally twisted the words of investigators to misrepresent evidence and preliminary and very cautious statements to portray them as definitive conclusions to establish Russia’s guilt. Just lyk the chemical weapons attack in Syria, where a UN report’s ambiguous conclusions were transformed into an
indictment of guilt by the Western media.
I was watching with awe when the so called investigators dished out lies and fallacy has investigative report(quick to point russia/seperatist as the culprit without proof), which is obvious to even a layman,albiet a sharp one. It took a concerned french citizen(Thierry andre)>>
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hhmi-f-UbE
who was fed up of digesting lies, to conduct his own independent investigation, covering pretty much all incongruities and lies in the official pre-reports and the investigation in general. Same with the australian's who just de-schematize their lies and a sincere whistle-blower who came out with information that a Ukraine airforce pilot Captain Voloshin returned distraught
from a flight around the time of the tragedy,(this corroborrate with russian radar signature),
confessing that he ‘shot down the wrong plane.’ Captain Voloshin disappeared later,so did the Spanish air traffic controller who was responsible for re-directing the Malaysia
Airlaines plane into the dangerous war zone, and who
tried to expose the truth about MH17 in his tweets.>>https://futuristrendcast./2014/12/29/ukraines-snowden-whistleblower-confirms-mh17-was-shot-down-by-ukraine/



This world is full of web of lies. it takes a cautious one not to be inebriated by it. If fact points to russia and the seperatist has the guilty once. I will be the first to call for their head in the court of public opinion. This is human life we are talking. But all fact and proof is pointing to one particular direction and this same people wants us to indict a different people, bcs they have monopoly over the mainstream media. That's height of media pillage on our common sense.
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it is well known that the west planned that attack, to put more heat on Putin's Russia.

cyprus000:
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Apple of jah. The one babylonians can't defeat & dem coulda never clone. keep on de-schematizing their maisma under all mantra.

---

Sincerely speaking. I have tried not to sound myopic, but one can't suppress the truth in the bide not to sound myopic.

I followed this MH17 saga for quit a long time, and after accessing, compiling and looking at things objectively.
I asked myself. What will russia and the seperatist gain by downing a civilian aircraft,when this will sabotage their effort..nothing.
What about NATO and it ukrianian allies in a war they are already losing..they have everything to gain. cos by doing so. They can distort fact and indict russia and the seperatist in the court of public opinion. with the use of legal
maneuvering and its well-oiled press to turn the investigation of the disaster into a witchhunt with an inevitable outcome already eagerly determined to implicate Russia. There by inciting international community against russia and the seperatist. Which is what they did pre-emptively.
The Western media intentionally twisted the words of investigators to misrepresent evidence and preliminary and very cautious statements to portray them as definitive conclusions to establish Russia’s guilt. Just lyk the chemical weapons attack in Syria, where a UN report’s ambiguous conclusions were transformed into an
indictment of guilt by the Western media.
I was watching with awe when the so called investigators dished out lies and fallacy has investigative report(quick to point russia/seperatist as the culprit without proof), which is obvious to even a layman,albiet a sharp one. It took a concerned french citizen(Thierry andre)>>
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hhmi-f-UbE
who was fed up of digesting lies, to conduct his own independent investigation, covering pretty much all incongruities and lies in the official pre-reports and the investigation in general. Same with the australian's who just de-schematize their lies and a sincere whistle-blower who came out with information that a Ukraine airforce pilot Captain Voloshin returned distraught
from a flight around the time of the tragedy,(this corroborrate with russian radar signature),
confessing that he ‘shot down the wrong plane.’ Captain Voloshin disappeared later,so did the Spanish air traffic controller who was responsible for re-directing the Malaysia
Airlaines plane into the dangerous war zone, and who
tried to expose the truth about MH17 in his tweets.>>https://futuristrendcast./2014/12/29/ukraines-snowden-whistleblower-confirms-mh17-was-shot-down-by-ukraine/



This world is full of web of lies. it takes a cautious one not to be inebriated by it. If fact points to russia and the seperatist has the guilty once. I will be the first to call for their head in the court of public opinion. This is human life we are talking. But all fact and proof is pointing to one particular direction and this same people wants us to indict a different people, bcs they have monopoly over the mainstream media. That's height of media pillage on our common sense.
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You have said it all, O gallant soulja. We are now living in times where lies are fast becoming the truth. Mass media, especially from the west, are now taking over from Satan as the father of lies, and some of us are following, line, hook and sinker.

Australia