Phut:


All the people he killed were upstanding members of society, who were very nice to him and were praying in Church. One was even a member of Congress. And your response is that he was doing us a favor? You sound white supremacist, just like the perp.

This guy pleep doesn't care about 'upstanding' and 'nice' and 'church'.

They were black. And he is sure that (being black) they invariably had double-digit IQs, even though he never met any of them and never administered an IQ test to any of them.

You see, all black people need to perish with their inferior mental ability so that pleep and his high-intellect-bearing sperm can create a new race of high-IQ black men. Pretty cool, huh?

Radoillo:


This guy pleep doesn't care about 'upstanding' and 'nice' and 'church'.

They were black. And he is sure that (being black) they invariably had single-digit IQs, even though he never met any of them and never administered an IQ test to any of them.

You see, all black people need to perish with their inferior mental ability so that pleep and his high-intellect-bearing sperm can create a new race of high-IQ black men. Pretty cool, huh?

LOL! When he encounters an argument he does not like, he does address it head on (sidesteps it by saying you have a low IQ anyway)

Biko, nwanne'm gini bu emailu yi? Nkem di na profileu mu. Onyere ozi achoro'm izi yi.

Radoillo:


This guy pleep doesn't care about 'upstanding' and 'nice' and 'church'.

They were black. And he is sure that (being black) they invariably had single-digit IQs, even though he never met any of them and never administered an IQ test to any of them.

You see, all black people need to perish with their inferior mental ability so that pleep and his high-intellect-bearing sperm can create a new race of high-IQ black men. Pretty cool, huh?

LOL! When he encounters an argument he does not like, he does address it head on (sidesteps it by saying you have a low IQ anyway) This is a faceless forum and people can claim to be whomever. Ife ama'm bu na onye a bu ezigbota efulefu



Biko, nwanne'm gini bu emailu yi? Nkem di na profileu mu. Onyere ozi achoro'm izi yi.

Phut:


LOL! W

Biko, nwanne'm gini bu emailu yi? Nkem di na profileu mu. Onyere ozi achoro'm izi yi.

Aga m esendiri gi mail kita.

Radoillo:


Aga m esendiri gi mail kita.

Daalu soo (Mbona)

Phut:


Daalu soo (Mbona)

Udo.

Radoillo:


Aga m esendiri gi mail kita.

A replyi go'm. #Udo

Africa doesn't need to aggregate its many languages into an arbitrary few, rather it needs to rearrange the diversity of its languages, in my view, into federal units (within their existing nations). There are 225 indigenous European languages, yet Europe is home to many of the world's prosperous and semi-prosperous countries. Literally every country in Europe runs on its own language(s). Languages are important to the economic, political and social fabric of a country. If they are going to die, it should be a natural/consensual process involving the native speakers and not something slapped on them.

Igbo and Yoruba for instance, are more natural than French. The former languages rely heavily on their natural formations, while the latter on Latin, from where it derives most of its grammar and vocabulary. In fact African languages on the whole, are natural specimens of used languages. They are spoilt with numerous dialects, each having unique words and richness. The only area African languages might struggle is in deep science and even this is navigable with great creativity. There are many African languages that have come a long way like Kinyarwanda and Zulu, that have generated huge bodies of writings.

If there isn't a word for yellow - make one. After all, that's how languages started.

Many African languages are underdeveloped, but that's not to say they can't be developed. It's a matter of effort and will.

Anyway, languages are slowly dying, day by day. At some point we will have to choose. I'm curious though, why you'd want English as a lingua franca. It's not native to Africa and can't express Africans values, ideas and concepts like our own languages. If you go to France and ask the people to start speaking English, they will refuse. If you go to Africa and ask someone to speak English, that person will be ashamed by his/hers inability to do so. Do you see where the problem lies? Africans always look outside their own continent instead of inside their own. They strive for foreign values instead of sticking with what they know.

Sadly, we as a poeple are supressed to mere shadows of our former kingdoms. People suffer and poverty has taken over. That makes the way for an overly materialistic society where there is no time for self-reflection.

I don't know how Naija will solve her problems, but I'll do my best to give her a push. I hope every one else will too.

O dabo.

quid:

Good.
Now share this high IQ photo ==>

You disgust me.

Phut:


LOL! When he encounters an argument he does not like, he does address it head on (sidesteps it by saying you have a low IQ anyway)

Biko, nwanne'm gini bu emailu yi? Nkem di na profileu mu. Onyere ozi achoro'm izi yi.



LOL! When he encounters an argument he does not like, he does address it head on (sidesteps it by saying you have a low IQ anyway) This is a faceless forum and people can claim to be whomever. Ife ama'm bu na onye a bu ezigbota efulefu



Biko, nwanne'm gini bu emailu yi? Nkem di na profileu mu. Onyere ozi achoro'm izi yi.

hahahahaha, wow. This is funny, you guys actually thought you were making "arguments"

Listen Mrs. Chimpanzee: This thread is saying that African languages/cultures are regressive and inhibit progress. The only actual argument you can make against this position would be to demonstrate the opposite: Providing evidence that African languages are not regressive and actually promote progress.

Posting pictures of the holocaust is not an argument against this thread, posting pictures of white school shooters is not an argument against this thread.

If there was ever a race stupider than you monkeys that race is extinct.

Phut:


Point of correct: Whites are the neanderthals, not blacks.

Carry on ....

I didn't want to call you guys homo Erectus because it hurts my soul to say it. But since you want to correct me, fine: Whites are indeed part neanderthal and black people are part Homo-Erectus.

Erectus is 1.9 million years old and the successor of a great ape. This is probably the reason why blacks are so dumb and prone to AIDS. Happy now?

scholti:
Africa doesn't need to aggregate its many languages into an arbitrary few, rather it needs to rearrange the diversity of its languages, in my view, into federal units (within their existing nations). There are 225 indigenous European languages, yet Europe is home to many of the world's prosperous and semi-prosperous countries. Literally every country in Europe runs on its own language(s). Languages are important to the economic, political and social fabric of a country. If they are going to die, it should be a natural/consensual process involving the native speakers and not something slapped on them.

Igbo and Yoruba for instance, are more natural than French. The former languages rely heavily on their natural formations, while the latter on Latin, from where it derives most of its grammar and vocabulary. In fact African languages on the whole, are natural specimens of used languages. They are spoilt with numerous dialects, each having unique words and richness. The only area African languages might struggle is in deep science and even this is navigable with great creativity. There are many African languages that have come a long way like Kinyarwanda and Zulu, that have generated huge bodies of writings.

And as usual you people cannot stop talking about whites.

2000 years ago Europe was just as ethnically fragmented as Africa is today. Modern Britain with about 3 or 4 native ethnic groups (English, Welsh, Scots, Gaelic) had up to 12 during the time of the Romans, each speaking a different language and practicing a stupid backwards "culture." What is now Germany & France (Germania) was even worse.

The difference between Europe and Africa is that Europe conflated its multiple tribes into many less but larger ones via conquest and mixing. Having Latin as a Langua Franca was the main reason why Europe was able to exchange scientific information so effectively between countries and become more culturally and religiously similar during the middle ages and onward.

The reason why this has not occurred in Africa is because Africa is frozen in an archaic state of development that will not be broken until the excess diversity is eliminated.

The first 2 images show the ethnic map of Europe during the time of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago. The final image shows the ethnic groups (tribes) of modern Europe, much larger and consolidated than what we see in Africa. They also usually have separate states.

StarFlux:
If there isn't a word for yellow - make one. After all, that's how languages started.

Many African languages are underdeveloped, but that's not to say they can't be developed. It's a matter of effort and will.

Anyway, languages are slowly dying, day by day. At some point we will have to choose. I'm curious though, why you'd want English as a lingua franca. It's not native to Africa and can't express Africans values, ideas and concepts like our own languages. If you go to France and ask the people to start speaking English, they will refuse. If you go to Africa and ask someone to speak English, that person will be ashamed by his/hers inability to do so. Do you see where the problem lies? Africans always look outside their own continent instead of inside their own. They strive for foreign values instead of sticking with what they know.

Sadly, we as a poeple are supressed to mere shadows of our former kingdoms. People suffer and poverty has taken over. That makes the way for an overly materialistic society where there is no time for self-reflection.

I don't know how Naija will solve her problems, but I'll do my best to give her a push. I hope every one else will too.

O dabo.

I want English to be the lingua Franca because i'm practical not sentimental.

Objectively, English is the best language ever created. It has the largest vocabulary, it is capable of the most nuance and complexity and more books are written in English than in all other languages combined.

ChinonsoDike2:


You disgust me.

^ Are the high IQ magas in the picture now disgusting you?

pleep:
And as usual you people cannot stop talking about whites.

Have you stopped talking about black people?

kiswahili has a very rich vocabulary that extends very deeply into science and technology . The two main kiswahili speaking countries(Tanzania and Kenya) have national language research bodies witha vibrant output. I think @OP is preposterous.

kiswahili has a very rich vocabulary that extends very deeply into science and technology . The two main kiswahili speaking countries(Tanzania and Kenya) have national language research bodies with vibrant intellectual output. I think @OP is preposterous.

AAinEqGuinea:
Peel away the layers of culture and black people will remain the same, in ways you'll hate and love. I see this in fellow African Americans, they'll go back to being "land people" with "poverty mentalities" (see Detroit, Chicago, etc). Many have accepted living out their existence in this type of environment. There's something organic and different that I like about it, but there are many things that are annoying about it. This is seen everywhere

Asians are very traditional people and yet they top the "IQ" performance scale:


Asians' placement at the top isnt an aberration of any kind, at the top rests many Asian countries before any predominately white country. They've played the "IQ" game and clearly have won, yet you dont hardly hear of technological nuances that come from Asian countries. They're good at replicating what is already seen in the western world. Perhaps gifted African immigrants are helping to uplift ailing white countries' IQ performance. Americans will try to blame their performance on Blacks and other minorities even though their whiter compatriots in the EU arent in top positions as well, and Americans were, for the most part, Europe's rejects and criminals.

Culture is not to blame... perhaps you need to dig deeper. Blacks, people from sub-Sahara, are physically different in ways we hate and love (hair is kinky, broad noses, fat lips, on average men are more endowed and women are more shapely), ... WE'RE DIFFERENT... maybe a creator put limits on how far we can/should go, lets find out where that limit is.

I agree culture is not to blame because it is hardly the problem. You won't find a person saying I hate Kenyans cos of their culture or I hate Somalis because of their culture. It's ridiculous.
A lot of black people from different countries/cultures have/share the same mentality and the same general problems in the black community so I really don't believe culture is the problem. Even without the so called culture you will still find that black people will still do the same thing.

One of the biggest problems with black people is we love to look down on our culture and history. Everything black is bad, primitive, backwards and the white and westernized way is right. If the op perhaps spoke about some traditional/superstitious outdated practices that should be abolished like women circumcision in some countries then I would be on board but to say that we just let go of our culture is nonsense. We need to change our mindset and mentality. That I believe is the major problem and not culture and language.

pleep:
hahahahaha, wow. This is funny, you guys actually thought you were making "arguments"

Listen Mrs. Chimpanzee: This thread is saying that African languages/cultures are regressive and inhibit progress. The only actual argument you can make against this position would be to demonstrate the opposite: Providing evidence that African languages are not regressive and actually promote progress.

What is progress?

AAinEqGuinea:


I................l isnt disrupting those efforts; enjoy your Boko Haram, Ebola, AIDs--Christmas gifts from the West. Or am I supposed believe that are natural curses from God. I actually hope there's a racial holocaust (nearly impossible), at least I wont die with my lips glued to their white ass for sure.

Like I asked before, because we've exhausted the fact we're backwards people, what do you suggest we do to uplift Blacks from "the bottom" Many African Americans dont care their African roots and culture and yet they're equally considered backwards, in case you needed a normalized population to test your OP regarding usurping African culture.

African-Americans have a triple heritage: Black Native American, Black European and Black African.

cocoama:


I agree culture is not to blame because it is hardly the problem. You won't find a person saying I hate Kenyans cos of their culture or I hate Somalis because of their culture. It's ridiculous.
A lot of black people from different countries/cultures have/share the same mentality and the same general problems in the black community so I really don't believe culture is the problem. Even without the so called culture you will still find that black people will still do the same thing.

One of the biggest problems with black people is we love to look down on our culture and history. Everything black is bad, primitive, backwards and the white and westernized way is right . If the op perhaps spoke about some traditional/superstitious outdated practices that should be abolished like women circumcision in some countries then I would be on board but to say that we just let go of our culture is nonsense. We need to change our mindset and mentality. That I believe is the major problem and not culture and language.

Our knowledge of History is limited to Caucasian His - story

davidante27:
I often think about that also in terms of religion. I would like to see a [b]universal religion (a sort of merger of all the religions)[/b ] simply chose the beneficial teachings from all religions and discard the meaningless man-made doctrines.
but again many people are too brainwashed,stubborn and stuck in their ways to embrace the collective progress of mankind.

You advocate a Universal Ecumenism of some persons who came and went some time ago. Is it impossible to meet someone, while alive, without reading so-called Holy Books?

scholti:
Africa doesn't need to aggregate its many languages into an arbitrary few, rather it needs to rearrange the diversity of its languages, in my view, into federal units (within their existing nations). There are 225 indigenous European languages, yet Europe is home to many of the world's prosperous and semi-prosperous countries. Literally every country in Europe runs on its own language(s). Languages are important to the economic, political and social fabric of a country. If they are going to die, it should be a natural/consensual process involving the native speakers and not something slapped on them.

Igbo and Yoruba for instance, are more natural than French. The former languages rely heavily on their natural formations, while the latter on Latin, from where it derives most of its grammar and vocabulary. In fact African languages on the whole, are natural specimens of used languages. They are spoilt with numerous dialects, each having unique words and richness. The only area African languages might struggle is in deep science and even this is navigable with great creativity. There are many African languages that have come a long way like Kinyarwanda and Zulu, that have generated huge bodies of writings.

Well said!

Africa is the origin of Language and Writing. I am not a native Igbo speaker, but I can use Igbo to decipher Ancient Egyptian, Sumerian, French, etc.

Basque language is from the African Mande language group.

Ethiopian languages are Proto-Indian.

Missionary education is having a deadly effect on Africans.

pleep:
I want English to be the lingua Franca because i'm practical not sentimental.

Objectively, English is the best language ever created. It has the largest vocabulary, it is capable of the most nuance and complexity and more books are written in English than in all other languages combined.

English is a Latinized pidgin of German. That is why every German can understand some English.

English has its limitations. Very astronomical numbers are easier expressed in Indian languages.
There are a lot of concepts that cannot be expressed in English. In Yoruba, there is a greeting "E kun joko" (greetings while seated). It has no equivalent in English, because the culture does not exist in English.

Pleep,

Learn a few African languages and study African history and current affairs. Follow African news and their developments. You have no debate. I can smash your views but it might be a waste of time. I only commented on the language part of your first post, so that those who are not sufficiently clued, would not fall into your views. The English language is largely a borrowed language. There is very little in it that is native to it compared to 90% of Nigerian languages that depend on their vocabulary and grammar to function. Take Igbo for instance. It has hundreds of dialects with their own vocabularies, proverbs etc. It has native words for many plants, trees, animals, politics, economics etc, where the English language equivalents are from Greek and Latin. The English language should be a distant second language on the continent. If not for inferiority complex, by now we should have Hausa, Zulu, Shona etc, universities in Africa, just as there are Polish, Catalan etc universities.

No European country - apart from Ireland for historical reasons - has bowed to the international might of English by making it a national language and Europe has fifty countries. Even Sweden that is seen as the most receptive of English, has the second highest number of published articles - in Swedish - on Wikipedia. Preach your message of making the English language a continental language, first to Europe, the homeland of English as it only comes a distant second on the continent. I would rather Zulu be the continental language. It is a more natural language - 90% of its vocabulary belongs to it. Its written works on science, politics, economics etc are largely its own. It has produced lots of books and has a vibrant media. English produces more books because of its status in world science and business. But German, French, Japanese and Chinese etc are not far behind. There are many knowledges that are not published in English. Every years lots of books are published in African languages from Malawi, Uganda etc.

Africa only needs to manage its diversity of languages, by respecting them and apportioning spaces to them to thrive (I prefer it to be in-country) and then allowing mutual co-operation between them. We should aim for the Switzerland example. It is composed of French, Italian and German ethnic groups, with each having universities run in their languages and many other examples of cultural cohabitation. This is civilisation.

quid:

Have you stopped talking about black people?

Hahaha! Good question

quid:

Stop frustrating yourself.
You will gather wrinkles for nothing.

For real.

pleep:
[b] I don't feel any emotion on the internet, just a vague sense of amusement. [/b]I also like to share my ideas

Open a seemingly, serious thread. Then read on with amusement. Classic troll behavior.

pleep:
[s]used to draw the line against calling my own "people" racial slurs, but i have decided that they are the best descriptions of the black race. Let the fun begin.

Thanks for opening my eyes Quid.[/s]

You are not black and you definitely are not African. Nobody bought into that so, stop with the facade. Have the cojones to come out cleanly as the white racist and supremacist that you really are

jantavanta:


English is a Latinized pidgin of German. That is why every German can understand some English.

English has its limitations. Very astronomical numbers are easier expressed in Indian languages.
There are a lot of concepts that cannot be expressed in English. In Yoruba, there is a greeting "E kun joko" (greetings while seated). It has no equivalent in English, because the culture does not exist in English.

What is the great value of having a word that means "greetings while seated? You guys have the priorities of orangutans. You if think Indian languages are so good learn them.

meanwhile those same indians are learning English because it is the language of the future.