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Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Nobody: 7:54pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: did Jesus even establish a faith? |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 7:54pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
mikron: Many of these so called churches are even more occultic than some "real" occultic groups. So please, dont come and lecture me on what is a secret cult or not. Has AMORC killed anyone you know.? Has AMORC made anyone you know rich? Have you seen AMORC members flaunting wealth or power? Does AMORC serve any particular god that you know or have heard of? Please, learn to be more like Christ! Even Jesus will look into the heart of things before making statements. That is why he told those that wanted to stone the prostitute that the one who is without blemish should take the first throw. Like every other group, church, mosque, etc, AMORC has members and the lives of those members determine how people judge AMORC! You cant generalise because of one member that you know. It's like saying because a thief goes to a church, all its members are thieves. Thats fallacious! The key to success, nay, the key to heaven depends on how open and broadminded you are! Being broadminded doesnt mean abandoning your convictions, it means that you should not attack the convictions of others for no just cause. Has any AMORC member been sued to court for anything unwanted? Has the pope attacked AMORC? Has your pastor even attacked AMORC? WHo then are you to say AMORC is a CULT? 1 Like |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 7:55pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
craziebone: Many ignorant fellows do not even know that Christianity is a post-Jesus contraption. Talk about ignorance! 1 Like |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by mbulela: 7:56pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra:Why are you so hell conscious? Where in my posts did I mention hell and burning therein? Just like your organization has core beliefs and principles, so does Christianity. Jesus Christ's place in Christianity is exclusive. So exclusive that it entailed God himself coming down in the form of a man to redeem man back to Himself. Choosing some other "route" to God does not exclude you from God's love but neither does it invalidate the exclusivity of Jesus as the ONLY mediator between man and God. All I have been harping on is the fact that a Christian cannot seek self mastery or mastery of the universe outside Christ. I am really pertubed by the rest of the arguments. 2 Likes |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 7:58pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
mbulela: I have respected your opinion. Still learn to be tolerant to the views of others. If Jesus wasn't tolerant, a religion wouldn't have evolved from his teachings! |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by mbulela: 8:00pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: So Jesus was intolerant? |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:01pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
mbulela: Re-read the post. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by mbulela: 8:03pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: What is your understanding of Christianity? You are supposed to be an enlightened fellow but you go around throwing subtle rude comments at others. From calling them ignorant (about their own belief systems not yours) to calling their beliefs mediocre. How do you find your level of evolution as a mystic if your conversation is filled with such arrogance? |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by mbulela: 8:03pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: Unfortunately, I've got to run to other posts for now. Have a fine weekend. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by mbulela: 8:04pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Mekyno(m): 8:05pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra:tnx 4 ur tym bt dey or their activities are a bit secretive. Why? Who do dey worship or is their grandmaster? A gal i know, back den, did thanks giving service in church wen she left or got free frm amorc, does it hv a caging or bonding spirit? |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by donj84: 8:06pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
bigneorapz: If you arte scare of turning him down..why asking, you have made your decision already na..no amount of advice will change your choice |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by greggng: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: You re correct I respect their intellectual capacity. It looks as if poor men like us re not welcomed their cos must of his friends re all rich |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by afroxyz: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
From the comments of members such as Jasysandra, I share the same beliefs with AMORC. I study nature and believe that it makes name understand the universe more. I also believe that Christianity which is being preached today is superficial and for one to understand Christianity or any religion then study other religions. I believe in the 12 universal laws and I am so so curious. However I am a free spirit that can't subscribe to any institutionalised authority. All these I gained by reading and asking myself deep questions. 1 Like |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Nobody: 8:07pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
BigFrancis21, please what do you have to say to this? I know you to be very spiritual, but in a different way. I've always sought a deeper understanding of life and its attendant mysteries, but being a Christian hasn't helped much. The quest for a more adept grasp of the Word, and understanding of God has made me read a lot of books (some of which you may regard as unorthodox.) Now I'm more befuddled than ever. Attimes I feel knowledge & the spirit of free will is man's greatest undoing. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by feaworaoja007: 8:08pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra:my friend;i can. Over authoritaatively tell you that Amorc wear rings; something like a gold ring,withsomething like a symbol of rose embedded in a triangle...i remeber the ring vividly,it's not by saying you"re a member for mouth,these are things i saw like over 25yrs ago whilst growing up,and i can remember vividly...as for the drinking bloood part and all,i dont care;i dont want to ask him and i dont want to knw...for me,in ds case,ignorance is bliss...somethings are beta left unsaid friend...somtins i dont wanna tok about! |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:13pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
mbulela: Like I said earlier on, arrogance is a relative concept! Christianity is a religion fashioned after the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is a messianic religion which mixes earlier Judaism with the teachings of Jesus. These teachings are written in the third person narrative by various disciples and prophets to form what is now termed as the "Holy Bible" which was gathered together and printed under the watch of King James in the early 17th century. Before then, the Bible was simply a collection of various books used by the Catholic church. Christianity espouses Jesus as the way to redemption and everlasting life. It preaches hell, heaven and such concepts as the trinity of God, salvation, grace, forgiveness, love, etc. Christianity is one of the most peaceful religions on earth and members are easy going, simple and lovely. Sadly, most Christians in Nigeria have turned the religion into something else entirely. It has been infiltrated with extreme dogma, swindlers who call themselves pastors, a myriad of churches with differing beliefs, intolerance to even internal dissenting groups, and a whole lot of other things that the fathers of the religion will weep over. I hope all these change! Let us copy Western Christianity and their simplicity! It is well. 1 Like |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:16pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
feaworaoja007: Ignorance is bliss is the main reason you are in your current dilemma. AMORC doesnt impose RINGS on MEMBERS!!! I have said it before and I repeat it. If you dad wore a ring, it was HIS OWN CHOICE!!! Keep being ignorant all you want.! I hope it serves you well in the greater run but please dont let your ignorance say things that make you sound like a miserable fellow in public. 1 Like |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by feaworaoja007: 8:18pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra:my dear, reading those rosicrucian magazines doesnt make you a member! You"re too young to know what you"re even talking about! I understand that with google everyone can now assess info and claim to have knowledge of what they dont know oor felt firsthand...ok, as a memeber have you staayed awake @ 9t in the dark to chant and do incantations;if you"ve not,then u"re simply aa fraud and dont know what you talking about! I hope u truly join someday and see 4 yoourself...i"m not saying its totally evil;but there's somtin sinister bout it! |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:20pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
Mekyno: AMORC activities are not secretive. It appears to be so because most people have not gone there to check what is going on actually. AMORC doesnt worship anyone other than GOD! There is no GRANDMASTER in AMORC. What we have is a body of leaders who see to the day-to-day functioning of the organisation administratively. The girl that did thanksgiving was NOT a member of AMORC! I can tell you that categorically. She may have been to our affiliated body a number of times, she wasn't a member. TO become an AMORC member, you have to petition Calabar and wait for upto 3 months to receive your first series of mails. You have to get a key number and progress in reading monographs. That lady was simply using AMORC to cover for something else or she was simply brainwashed by a pastor into believing that she was committing a sin by attending an AMORC affiliated body. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:25pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
feaworaoja007: You know nothing about my affiliation with AMORC so dont assume on my behalf... AMORC members that say awake at night to meditate do so on their own. There is no ROSICRUCIAN rule that meditation should be done at any point in time. I can meditate anytime I want. I sleep peacefully at night . Chanting vowel sounds is not sinister. That'd be saying singing worship songs is sinister because our songs are full of vowel sounds, AMORC only extracts the sounds from the songs. The sounds help us relax, meditate and visualise positive things. To correct your impression, being an AMORC member in Nigeria means you have a KEY NUMBER, RECEIVE MONOGRAPHS FROM CALABAR, PAY ALL OUTSTANDING DUES, AFFILIATED WITH A LODGE, CHAPTER OR PRONAOS (OPTIONAL). Please be open to education. Do not presume to know about AMORC when you dont. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by UNLIMITEDWONDER: 8:28pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
bigneorapz: Look dear, I beg you whether Armoc or Armrock, do not follow anything outside Christ Jesus. Yes, he might give the needy and help the wretched but do not forget that anti-christ people can do these things too, so do not be deceived. I don't know what that "organisation" is but it doesn't seem Christ-like. If you are a christian that you say you are, pray about this,be patient enough to listen to God,tell your uncle you need some time..Or better still you coul take the matter to any superior(and true) man of God around. God bless you. I wish you well. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by jasysandra(f): 8:30pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
UNLIMITEDWONDER: It is AMORC and you are new to this discussion. You have 8 pages of words to fill your gap in knowledge. . We've been through it several times already. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Cyriloha(m): 8:31pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
femifemo123: don't mind the fool AMORC is a strong secret Cult just like ogboni |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Nobody: 8:33pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
mbulela: Just wanted to create an analogy, of course it's impossible to withhold God's blessings, even from an evil man. It's high time "christians" started being tolerant to other people who don't share same faith as they do. I can't even read a single recollected comment from the Christians on here, how do you expect to win even a single soul for christ? 2 Likes |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Cyriloha(m): 8:35pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
bigneorapz: young man get some sense most secret Cult men hide in the name of church in the name of worshiping God okay for if your clever enough observe the life of your uncle very well from today and you will find one or two skeletons on his cupboard |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by menxer: 8:35pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
omojeesu: I surmised you are referring to Jesus. Then You are only speaking from one side of reality. From what i have come to know, Christianity (as we know it) can't be the only way to Christhood, for Melchizadek was a "type of" Christ (Heb 7:1-..., Heb 6:20, Heb 5-10, PS 110:4) If Melchizedek was a high Priest of God in the time of Abraham when Israel did not exist talk of Christianity who were his followers? If Jesus was a high priest in the order of Melchizedek, who has higher authority/rank: Melchizedek or Jesus? Sorry to disturb your evening. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Cyriloha(m): 8:36pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
young man get some sense most secret Cult men hide in the name of church in the name of worshiping God okay for if your clever enough observe the life of your uncle very well from today and you will find one or two skeletons on his cupboard |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by UNLIMITEDWONDER: 8:37pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: Weldone. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by afroxyz: 8:38pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
jasysandra: Do you believe in GOD: I believe in a supreme being/force. It goes by different names, one if which is God. Besides man crested God. Can you read ALOT: Yes o! Are you a patient person: nope Are you in search of money, power or fame: Never. I'm altruistic. |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by MoiettMartins(m): 8:38pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
[quote author=bigneorapz post=41147203]Hi nairalanders, please i have something that is really disturbing me of which am not sure if it's a good move or not. I have a very rich uncle that is a member of the AMORC ( Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis) . and he's the only one helpin me at the moment in all the things in life both in school and outside school. Without him i'll be useless financially. My mum and my sisters are all christian in a methodist church of which am also a member. But just yesterday, my uncle came to me and told me to start coming with him to the AMORC temple..infact he said he was going to bring me a student form to fill. Please nairalanders..i'm confused at the moment. I learn that amorc members read alot of which i don't like & they have so many principle too. Please what do y'all think of this? Is it a good church for me to be a part of or should i just tell him to his face that am not interested? Please before u make your suggestion, just know that am scared of turning down his offers due to much respect i have for him..thanks. Lalasticlala please help move this to the F.P [] amorc is not as bad as you think it is.... its like yoga.... its not a religion buh deals with spiritual and mysti al issues... my dad is a rosicrucian buh im not tho.... its not a cult o!! they chant like buhddisht.. do deep breathing exercises like yoga... teach abt spiritual self and stuffs.... go d temple one day tell us your experience.... ah no wan tok much |
Re: My Uncle Wants Me In Amorc by Nobody: 8:42pm On Dec 19, 2015 |
fratermathy: Mathy I knew you would be here so I persisted to the page I found your comment. Mathy you must have forgotten our last conversation. but good as it is now to have you back. I want you to have a rethink about the path you have chosen to follow. the illumination your soul seek is not the kind that is sensual and evil, dangerous, deceptive and destructive. The art is pleasurable to the flesh. Our flesh lusts to these pleasures paving way for captivity of the soul, the wanton desires arousing momentarily excitement gradually leads to its imminent fall. Wisdom should teach you one thing. Suffice to say that of all great men who died shame death who among them can you identify to have known his disastrous end in a wake to make haste to avoid it. None. its either one died by committing suicide or were murdered in cold blood or they forced a plan, scheme, misgivings or wrong association that betrayed and destroyed them. To some ailments and strange happenings swallowed them up. if you asked these folks about their choices on their death beds they would paint the answer with regret. These are men who were powerful occultists to the later. I said all that to say this, if these 'enlightened' men with his self imposing-God-image cum ill knowledge gotten from ancient mystism and occult renderings cannot tell how his end would be or in particular what would mar him...how is he sure he will find peace where he is his headed? Not all things pure are pure. To an extent if a pretty woman doesn't know how to control the so called gains of beauty she's getting she might be lead astray. same for a man. same for all who choose to lust after the drawings of the flesh..... May God help us |
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