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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 2:47pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
NUVEMBARZINTL: Wonderfully said, and thanks for the response. However, what measure would you have in place that will prevent the said association to be formed not to end up like the Grassroot in P.Harcourt, do the new association to be formed going to approach already formed association to submit their mission and vision to the new association to be formed? Think about it. We as Nigerians seems to enjoy the small small mushroom groups all over the place instead of forming alliance . . . . Again, thanks for your response, i wasn't expecting a response from those preaching for the new association thus why i wasn't surprised at the mute of their mike . . .Lol, but i am grateful for giving me audience, sir. One thing i do agree with, 2016 is a great year for the farmers. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 3:04pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Abidemi501:You are most welcome sir @Abidemi501. Let me attempt your question... (1) The sales of any commodity is controlled and determined by the law of demand and supply in the market force. Hence, you will have to do wht we call market survey of your locality and as many places that you want your farm produce to get to. Ask them questions of the size of fish that they want which will prompt your production size. My brother, this debate and arguement can go on and on. They (melange & table size) are both selling in the market. (2) Yes and No: just as expalained above, it depoend on your choice and the market force (demand) around you. NOTE: THAT'S ONE OF THE REEASON OF THE ADVOCACY FOR A STRONG ASSOCIATION WHERE MEMBER CAN GET THEIR PRODUCE SOLD EASILY COZ THE ASSOCIATION WILL HAVE DATABASE OF FISH FARMERS AND THE SIZES THAT THEY PRODUCE AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE CONTACTS OF FISH VENDORS/SUPPLIERS AND THE SIZES THAT THEY BUY. (3) Vat/poond to spawn, holding tanks to keep the broodstock, egg nest/incubator to lay the egg, good water, blade to disect the male fish, tissue paper to keep the milt, towel to dry the female fish so as to prevent water to drop into the egg while stripping, scale to weight your broodstock, syringe to inject the broodstock, the hormone to injest the female fish (ovulin,ovaprim, Pituitary gland), knife to cut off the fish head in order to remove the pituitary gland. You can visit www.agricnetwork to read more on hatchery. It's there on SPAWNING TECHNIQUES (4) YES!!! Land that's close to the stream is good for aquaculture purpose(s). (5) Just budget abt #150 per fish in melange poroduction. Wishing you all the very best!!! 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 3:12pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
stan4b:You are welcome sir. If I may ask, how old are they? All U need do is to train them to feeding point and while feeding if they are still small, adopt "surface tension" system. Surface tension is placing your hand/feed very close to the pond surface so that the feed will float rather than having the bulk of the feed sinked. Wishing you all the very best!!! 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 3:18pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
superman007:I can help you with a contact of sumone in PH. She's highly experienced. No matter the quatity. Wishing you all the very best!!! 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 3:38pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:My brother, I totally agreed to your submission!!! #Bravo. YES!!! We can go with any existing association. But before we do that, I'll want us to audit them, check thir track record, wht have they achieved, are they ever recognized by the government and other agencies and e.t.c. I'll cast my vote for any existing asso as long as it has a direct name that tells who we are at first glance without further explaination and their achievement. Am nt advocating for power superiority. NO!!! I shd hv said some ceetain thg, but I dnt wnt some meaning to be read to it... Am just happy for one thing, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE ALL STANDING FIRM TOGETHER, AIRING OUR VOICE IN UNITY 2WDS A MUTUAL NOBLE COURSE. If only that we can see with the Eagle eyes, we'll know that our future is bright come #2016. We cnt affors to lose out; leaving all these computer farmers that don't know road to a farm let alone owning a farm to keep having access to our priviledges and right from the government and agencies... Wishing you all the very best!!! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by superman007(m): 3:48pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
NUVEMBARZINTL: Thanks Sir , I would be very glad if you can give me the contact to the lady. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 4:02pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
NUVEMBARZINTL: [b]Just because an association has not achieved or recognized yet by the government is not a sign of failure, it might mean that the missing link is you, Soft77, robonski and the rest of the people here . . . We are all a part of the bigger picture and till we see that, we are heading no where . . I can bet you that those small group you talking about has the vision to one day sit and dine with the president and have meetings in the USA as the world known fish farmers but they are yet to. By the way, any association that is registered with the government is qualified to be names recognized by the government, or what define an association as being recognized? I do agree that it is important to audit any association however, their mission and vision is key and not what they have done. . . It is like saying you wont hire someone that is fresh from university (Which is what is happening in Nigeria anyways and all over the world) because the person has no experience and if no one will give the person a chance, tell me how will the person acquire the experience and become employable? Let us work with objectivity. Mind you, i am just a Novice with little or no knowledge at all in the business.[/b] 4 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 6:08pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
superman007:Call 08053289487. Her name is Gift. U dnt need to mention my name. Just tell her dt U got her contact from one of her clients that have made Tarpaulin pond from her. Wishing you all the very best!!! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 6:26pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy: ![]() Fellow farmers, let's names begin to roll in... 10Q Wishing you all the very best!!! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 6:55pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
my line of thoughts. we don't need to keep forming more and more associations. lets identify with and build on the work of an existing association. all for one, one for all. Fhemmmy: |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 7:03pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
jaz: I am so much with you and hopefully there is nothing more to it than what we can read here . . . . 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by soft777(m): 7:06pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
soft777:Oyalfares sir, the sales manager said you have both concluded and you agree to wait for the next batch .Thank you so much for your patience, confidence and trust in us ,we shall not fail you..,, 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bily(m): 7:48pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy: ![]() ![]() How runs |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 8:55pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
bily: Lol . . .my brother, we thank God for business and He is taken care of us oh . . . . .In life i try to be careful because so much handwriting on the wall and depending on what language it is written it, it could mean too many things. And the way this one is shaping out needs time to understand it . . . . . But as a novice, we will sit on the sideline to watch the match that is about to be played and hopefully the rule of engagement will be interesting. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ayosat(m): 8:56pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Compliment of the season to everyone. Wishing everybody a wonderful Christmas in advance and a Glorious New year ahead. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ayosat(m): 9:07pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Forming another association again. Why don't we support GROFFA grassroot Fish Famers Association that was just formed and already registered with CAC, headed by our own Belexy and other great people of this forum. Just my option! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 9:09pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:I luv you sayings @Fhemmy. Highly proverbial but clear enough to be understood . I just hope and guess that there's nothing more to this matter of identification coz I seems to be smelling rat somewhere too... Wishing you all the very best!!! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 9:16pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:My superior novice ![]() |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 9:22pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
fzero: Quite well said and no wonder the person's headache refused to go away because i am the one take the panadol instead of the person that is sick . . . ..Mind you, this thread has been awesome and great for Novice like us and the purpose of the thread seems to be taking shape of late..... we have so many churches in Nigeria and all registered, however, would you rather have church on every second house or they all come together and form a bigger one for us all to enjoy and be a part to it? If there are churches in every second house, i dont see that anymore as being for the people but for self. Mind you, Roland is my chairman and i exchange chat with Soft77 ( A great guy) I just like to always understand purpose of things . . . .like the gentleman mention auditing, is there anything against auditing people as well? Except you know something that the rest of us dont . . . . which means it is better we are all not in the dark |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 9:36pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
jaz:. # we r not building on d work of any existing association, we won't flow! CAFAN ibadan has youth arm but I can't see anything sensible they r doing, every1 is sef motivated! The Association to be formed is to take care of upcoming farmers and strengthen d hard work of experienced farmers. Non of the existing association member cares if u make it in d biz or run @ loss even though they talk n preach like they care, if u wana check this, go to some of them for seed,feed or even assistance. You will be shock! Some of them maybe ohk! But non of them will ever render services for free like some of our guys here does. I don't need to memtion names! I say a Yes to an association dt will move me n others forward! ALLIED FISH FARMERS ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIA. 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by noblefarm: 9:37pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
ayosat: I support you, I believe Belexy is well known to ogas here nd he is also a good contributor here too, (tho I dunno why he have not said anything about this here) he has been having nd preaching this idea of coming together since and have been worked toward that by first creating whatsapp group that have group 1-3 already. The major discussion on the ground is how to come together and have a say as fish farmer like the fish buyers(iya eleja) have. When everybody in the group agreed to the idea they went fort to register GROFFA which am a member too. It's a new association that was registered with intent of what is being planned here. Since it's a new nd already registered association with same purpose I wish the ogas should join heads together and and work as one. My opinion. Am ready to support anything that will make fish farmers great like the oil cabals ![]() |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 9:43pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
chilanfarms: [b]I love your passion and i mean it from the bottom of my heart. . . . But i have few questions for you? 1. Who are the we in your statement? 2. How will the new association prevent you from running at a loss? 3. What kind of assistance have you approached your association for and you were declined? 4. Is the new association to be formed giving our seeds for free? If No so what do you mean? 5. The about to be formed association giving our feeds for free? If No, then, what is the all others are not useful 6. If Soft77 and Robonski decided to be selling their fish feed, give me a reason why I MUST be a member of their association to be able to buy the feed to feed my fishes if it is TRULY to assist ALL FISH FARMERS? IT is a great thing but i wanna see it from a business angle and if you wanna help people then, allow the assistance to be to those that do not believe in your association as well. 7. Is the association about to be formed rendering service for free? NOTE: from what i am reading now, and from what i have seen so far, if you are not a member of that association some of the free information we enjoy here might not be possible anymore, so tell me, MUST i be member of that association to have information if truly you believe in helping ALL aspiring farmers? Also, you said NONE of the association is this or that, how many of the registered association in IBADAN do you know, not to talk oyo state or SW, or the entire Nigeria . . . . [/b] 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 9:50pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
noblefarm: To add more juice to your comment, i believe some of the players here were told to join force them to help the farmers by making it happen with Belexy and they refused . . . so if months afterwards, they are now planning exact same that they refused with someone else, then, tell me why i should believe there is not more to all these . . . . Anyways, i have no problem with the said association, i might even join as long as no other motives and if the clause of "You must be a member to buy feed ( I will pay my money to buy the feed oh) is wiped off , , . . Sure 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 9:57pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:You have not yet answered my question, name the associations that are numerous??. Me i dey talk my own as i see am u get issues with soft before or oga robosnki? ![]() |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 10:01pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
fzero: Ha ha ha ha ha . . . . Issues with Robonski and Soft77? that is a laughable comedy . . . . I still had a chat with Soft77 yesterday and again, what a great guy, enlightened and know his onion and i will continue to learn at his feet . . . Robonski and myself spoke on phone too many times, and i know him well enough to have respect for him . . . so please don't go there, but if you wanna . . . be my guest. Some association has been named here, haven't they, or you wont see those as association till Fhemmmy named one? |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 10:09pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:Oga i still see no reason why you dey carry this matter for head. If the union abi association is to have their own feedmill and sell at a cheaper rate then there is no problem. I bought juvenile from robosnki for #12 and they are growing fast than normal and here in abuja i normally buy juveniles for #30 or #35 . how much gain i don pocket already no be serious assistance be that. Mind you i am a member of groffan. 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 10:14pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
fzero: I thought i was the one using panadol on someone else's headache . . . . so if i carry it for head, why are you now using panadol on my headache . . . .Lol ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Though, i am a novice in the business with no knowledge of nothing, next time, please dont jump into what you dont know that someone is having problem with someone all because i am not of same opinion? 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 10:25pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:Just because you are not of the same opinion doesn't make yours better. if they want to sell to ONLY members its even better that way to regulate their product. I was once in an association which had a feedmill but we were selling to the public but we later realized it was a bad idea. its either one joins or dont its so so simple. I rest my case |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 10:26pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
Fhemmmy:. #Tnx for loving my passion, same here! If its because its said dt any1 who doesn't belong to d Association won't be able be access d feed n seed well to a large extent I support dt, if u r not a member of CAFAN u cnt get subsidised rate on feed n seed. I copy d whatsapp group n introduce mysef but no single thing weh I don benefit or see go down there! Wen I said we I mean d likes of me that is bold enof to take up challenges n provide solutions. I dnt really need to say much, d Association is not a state based its a nation wide orientation we talking about I can be in kano,jos,bauchi,damaturu,kaduna u name anystate n access d Association. The association will schedule hw to move meetings around d states of d federation. 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jemjem(f): 10:29pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
My people my people why the quarrel over this matter. We are all adults and have a freedom to say and express what we think. Let us work together as farmers Pls Pls Pls people |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fhemmmy: 10:30pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
chilanfarms: Subsidized . . . .I do agree, if you are not a member, you should not be able to take advantage of the association . . so we are on same page on that, but that other cant buy at all is what surprises me . . . .Which again, please dont take me all serious, i have already got my confirmation from one of the actors about how the feed things will go down . . . Happy Now! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fzero: 10:33pm On Dec 21, 2015 |
chilanfarms:A Man with a vision. |
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