NUVEMBARZINTL:

@Fheemmmy: 10Q for ur contribution. It was well said. But just as I said earlier on the thread:
"I think there's a need to come up with an overall single association that will bear that name; an identity that shows through its name without any explanation wether home or abroad that THIS IS AN ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIAN'S FISH FARMERS.
My people, we don't have such an association for now. Rather, what we have is different people in different locality, registering a name for themselves. For instance, I belonged to GRASSROOT FARMERS ASSOCIATION in PortHarcourt, a registered association but we don't have it in other part of the country.

Now, we are advocating for a body that will shoulder all the responsibilities of all sub-grps. Many of these associations in existence has not and cannot even meet with the government face to face. Pls, my people, we need an overall body. For instance, we have so many workers and trader associations and grps under NLC, same goes for football where all other sub-associations all over the world meets under FIFA. In the same vein, I dnt see the creation of this very association as a threat to the existing ones.

Without slighting any existence association (we are all to achieve an end), but can anyone or any member of such association tell us any benefit or recognition that they've achieved from the govt, feed producing company, ministry of agriculture, Federal Institute of Oceanography and Marine Technology and the rest?

Pls, this move for registration of an association isn't a poower tussle for superiority but a neccesity for us all".

Wiushing you all the very best!!!

Abidemi501:
Hello oga robonski! I wish to start next year. Here are my question. Does Melange sel more than other kind of fishes.
Is it ideal 4 a begina like me start the bisnes wit Melange?
What ar d equipment needed 4 spawn. And production of Melange. I have a land close to stream. Is it useful? As at now, what is the cost of producin Melange frm Fingerling. If i stock 5000 pieces. Thank u lov u

stan4b:
Pls, Gurus in d house. Am new to catfish training. Am using a not too big plastic pond, and I av about 100 fishes. Pls, how do I feed them?

superman007:

dear Abidecz please where is your location and please how much is a tarpaulin pond over there, if you can give a number will be glad, am looking for a good one am in Akwa ibom.
thanks

Fhemmmy:


Wonderfully said, and thanks for the response.

However, what measure would you have in place that will prevent the said association to be formed not to end up like the Grassroot in P.Harcourt, do the new association to be formed going to approach already formed association to submit their mission and vision to the new association to be formed? Think about it.

We as Nigerians seems to enjoy the small small mushroom groups all over the place instead of forming alliance . . . .

Again, thanks for your response, i wasn't expecting a response from those preaching for the new association thus why i wasn't surprised at the mute of their mike . . .Lol, but i am grateful for giving me audience, sir.

One thing i do agree with, 2016 is a great year for the farmers.

NUVEMBARZINTL:

I can help you with a contact of sumone in PH. She's highly experienced. No matter the quatity.

Wishing you all the very best!!!

NUVEMBARZINTL:

My brother, I totally agreed to your submission!!! #Bravo.

YES!!! We can go with any existing association. But before we do that, I'll want us to audit them, check thir track record, wht have they achieved, are they ever recognized by the government and other agencies and e.t.c. I'll cast my vote for any existing asso as long as it has a direct name that tells who we are at first glance without further explaination and their achievement. Am nt advocating for power superiority. NO!!!

I shd hv said some ceetain thg, but I dnt wnt some meaning to be read to it... Am just happy for one thing, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE ALL STANDING FIRM TOGETHER, AIRING OUR VOICE IN UNITY 2WDS A MUTUAL NOBLE COURSE. If only that we can see with the Eagle eyes, we'll know that our future is bright come #2016. We cnt affors to lose out; leaving all these computer farmers that don't know road to a farm let alone owning a farm to keep having access to our priviledges and right from the government and agencies...

Wishing you all the very best!!!

superman007:

Thanks Sir , I would be very glad if you can give me the contact to the lady.

Fhemmmy:


[b]Just because an association has not achieved or recognized yet by the government is not a sign of failure, it might mean that the missing link is you, Soft77, robonski and the rest of the people here . . . We are all a part of the bigger picture and till we see that, we are heading no where . . I can bet you that those small group you talking about has the vision to one day sit and dine with the president and have meetings in the USA as the world known fish farmers but they are yet to.

By the way, any association that is registered with the government is qualified to be names recognized by the government, or what define an association as being recognized?

I do agree that it is important to audit any association however, their mission and vision is key and not what they have done. . . It is like saying you wont hire someone that is fresh from university (Which is what is happening in Nigeria anyways and all over the world) because the person has no experience and if no one will give the person a chance, tell me how will the person acquire the experience and become employable?

Let us work with objectivity.

Mind you, i am just a Novice with little or no knowledge at all in the business.[/b]

Fhemmmy:


[b]Just because an association has not achieved or recognized yet by the government is not a sign of failure, it might mean that the missing link is you, Soft77, robonski and the rest of the people here . . . We are all a part of the bigger picture and till we see that, we are heading no where . . I can bet you that those small group you talking about has the vision to one day sit and dine with the president and have meetings in the USA as the world known fish farmers but they are yet to.

By the way, any association that is registered with the government is qualified to be names recognized by the government, or what define an association as being recognized?

I do agree that it is important to audit any association however, their mission and vision is key and not what they have done. . . It is like saying you wont hire someone that is fresh from university (Which is what is happening in Nigeria anyways and all over the world) because the person has no experience and if no one will give the person a chance, tell me how will the person acquire the experience and become employable?

Let us work with objectivity.

Mind you, i am just a Novice with little or no knowledge at all in the business.[/b]

jaz:
my line of thoughts. we don't need to keep forming more and more associations. lets identify with and build on the work of an existing association. all for one, one for all.

soft777:
Its so sad that some people could be sabotaged ,i personally called you friday and this morning to tell u to be patient for the next batch the hybrid fingerlings on ground could not go round but if you can not be patient to wait for us. Its not a problem sir , please kindly send your account number back to mr kilani and your refund will be paid back to you before the end of today ,.The request for hybrid fingerlings is very high and we are trying our best to supply every one as at when due ,
Those that we have supplied here can testify to our quality seeds . and those that got there orders delivered first paid a week earlier before you , am so sorry for the inconvenience sir thank you for patronizing us

Fhemmmy:


I am so much with you and hopefully there is nothing more to it than what we can read here . . . .

bily:


you are indeed a business man, very cautious

How runs

Fhemmmy:


Lol . . .my brother, we thank God for business and He is taken care of us oh . . . . .In life i try to be careful because so much handwriting on the wall and depending on what language it is written it, it could mean too many things.

And the way this one is shaping out needs time to understand it . . . . . But as a novice, we will sit on the sideline to watch the match that is about to be played and hopefully the rule of engagement will be interesting.

Fhemmmy:


Lol . . .my brother, we thank God for business and He is taken care of us oh . . . . .In life i try to be careful because so much handwriting on the wall and depending on what language it is written it, it could mean too many things.

And the way this one is shaping out needs time to understand it . . . . . But as a novice, we will sit on the sideline to watch the match that is about to be played and hopefully the rule of engagement will be interesting.

fzero:

My superior novice Me i dint know y you are taking panadol for another mans headache.Everybody is entitled to form any associations he wishes as long its registered with CAC. We get so many churches with different names yet serving the same God abi,Oya even mention the existing association you know of.

jaz:
my line of thoughts. we don't need to keep forming more and more associations. lets identify with and build on the work of an existing association. all for one, one for all.

ayosat:
Forming another association again. Why don't we support GROFFA grassroot Fish Famers Association that was just formed and already registered with CAC, headed by our own Belexy and other great people of this forum. Just my option!

chilanfarms:
. # we r not building on d work of any existing association, we won't flow! CAFAN ibadan has youth arm but I can't see anything sensible they r doing, every1 is sef motivated! The Association to be formed is to take care of upcoming farmers and strengthen d hard work of experienced farmers. Non of the existing association member cares if u make it in d biz or run @ loss even though they talk n preach like they care, if u wana check this, go to some of them for seed,feed or even assistance. You will be shock! Some of them maybe ohk! But non of them will ever render services for free like some of our guys here does. I don't need to memtion names! I say a Yes to an association dt will move me n others forward! ALLIED FISH FARMERS ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIA.

noblefarm:


I support you, I believe Belexy is well known to ogas here nd he is also a good contributor here too, (tho I dunno why he have not said anything about this here) he has been having nd preaching this idea of coming together since and have been worked toward that by first creating whatsapp group that have group 1-3 already. The major discussion on the ground is how to come together and have a say as fish farmer like the fish buyers(iya eleja) have. When everybody in the group agreed to the idea they went fort to register GROFFA which am a member too. It's a new association that was registered with intent of what is being planned here. Since it's a new nd already registered association with same purpose I wish the ogas should join heads together and and work as one. My opinion. Am ready to support anything that will make fish farmers great like the oil cabals

Fhemmmy:



If there are churches in every second house, i dont see that anymore as being for the people but for self.
Mind you, Roland is my chairman and i exchange chat with Soft77 ( A great guy)

I just like to always understand purpose of things . . . .like the gentleman mention auditing, is there anything against auditing people as well?

Except you know something that the rest of us dont . . . . which means it is better we are all not in the dark

fzero:

You have not yet answered my question, name the associations that are numerous??. Me i dey talk my own as i see am u get issues with soft before or oga robosnki? cos d way you dey talk its paranormal

Fhemmmy:


Ha ha ha ha ha . . . . Issues with Robonski and Soft77? that is a laughable comedy . . . . I still had a chat with Soft77 yesterday and again, what a great guy, enlightened and know his onion and i will continue to learn at his feet . . . Robonski and myself spoke on phone too many times, and i know him well enough to have respect for him . . . so please don't go there, but if you wanna . . . be my guest.
Some association has been named here, haven't they, or you wont see those as association till Fhemmmy named one?

fzero:

Oga i still see no reason why you dey carry this matter for head. If the union abi association is to have their own feedmill and sell at a cheaper rate then there is no problem. I bought juvenile from robosnki for #12 and they are growing fast than normal and here in abuja i normally buy juveniles for #30 or #35 . how much gain i don pocket already no be serious assistance be that. Mind you i am a member of groffan.

I thought i was the one using panadol on someone else's headache . . . . so if i carry it for head, why are you now using panadol on my headache . . . .Lol Ask Robonski, i have bought seeds from him and his partner before and we have spoken about ideas . . . .If they decide to sell seeds and feeds, that is fine, i might even buy . . . . BUT read well before you write, Sir . . . .Their association will ONLY sell to members of the association except if my glasses is all of a sudden DULL.
Though, i am a novice in the business with no knowledge of nothing, next time, please dont jump into what you dont know that someone is having problem with someone all because i am not of same opinion?

Fhemmmy:


I thought i was the one using panadol on someone else's headache . . . . so if i carry it for head, why are you now using panadol on my headache . . . .Lol Ask Robonski, i have bought seeds from him and his partner before and we have spoken about ideas . . . .If they decide to sell seeds and feeds, that is fine, i might even buy . . . . BUT read well before you write, Sir . . . .Their association will ONLY sell to members of the association except if my glasses is all of a sudden DULL.
Though, i am a novice in the business with no knowledge of nothing, next time, please dont jump into what you dont know that someone is having problem with someone all because i am not of same opinion?

Fhemmmy:


To add more juice to your comment, i believe some of the players here were told to join force them to help the farmers by making it happen with Belexy and they refused . . . so if months afterwards, they are now planning exact same that they refused with someone else, then, tell me why i should believe there is not more to all these . . . . Anyways, i have no problem with the said association, i might even join as long as no other motives and if the clause of "You must be a member to buy feed ( I will pay my money to buy the feed oh) is wiped off , , . . Sure

chilanfarms:
. #Tnx for loving my passion, same here! If its because its said dt any1 who doesn't belong to d Association won't be able be access d feed n seed well to a large extent I support dt, if u r not a member of CAFAN u cnt get subsidised rate on feed n seed. I copy d whatsapp group n introduce mysef but no single thing weh I don benefit or see go down there! Wen I said we I mean d likes of me that is bold enof to take up challenges n provide solutions. I dnt really need to say much, d Association is not a state based its a nation wide orientation we talking about I can be in kano,jos,bauchi,damaturu,kaduna u name anystate n access d Association. The association will schedule hw to move meetings around d states of d federation.

chilanfarms:
. #Tnx for loving my passion, same here! If its because its said dt any1 who doesn't belong to d Association won't be able be access d feed n seed well to a large extent I support dt, if u r not a member of CAFAN u cnt get subsidised rate on feed n seed. I copy d whatsapp group n introduce mysef but no single thing weh I don benefit or see go down there! Wen I said we I mean d likes of me that is bold enof to take up challenges n provide solutions. I dnt really need to say much, d Association is not a state based its a nation wide orientation we talking about I can be in kano,jos,bauchi,damaturu,kaduna u name anystate n access d Association. The association will schedule hw to move meetings around d states of d federation.