logica:
...their opinion. I have never regarded British press as the authority on any football matter. See how different publications gave such disparate ratings in that Arsenal vs Manchester City match. But I have to say, even if it was Spanish press, it will still be their opinion. Until Busquets stops giving the ball away in dangerous positions, until he stops running like a duck (when he's caught wrong side), and until players are afraid to harass him in my book he remains an average DM.

erusen:
now i understand. two more things hazard is better than neymar.and all barca fans are plastics.laliga is shit.epl is best but they dont win champions league it is not good enough for them,make me laugh

raumdeuter:


So almost every sport analyst out there put Busquets as their best DM. I am sure you dont regard the opinion of anyone of them

logica:
I will ask Sammer and Veron what they think about him. I'll get back to you.

raumdeuter:


You mean you cant get any analysis that doesnt have Busquets as top 2 in the world for the past 5yrs?

logica:
...if Busquets at 27 (peak age) and after playing for Barca for so long as a regular (and Spain) is not regarded as one of the top 2 in the world, then something is wrong. Unfortunately, he has not improved commensurately that one has to conclude he'd been given too much more than he could handle. It's embarrassing to see "top 2" player giving the ball away and then looking to the ref for help or running like a duck. Silliness.

raumdeuter:


You still havent told us any DM better than Busquets. He hasnt improved, he is average, he gives away the ball, looking for ref help

AT least there should be one player out there currently better than him in your own estimation or is it that the player doesnt exist?

logica:
...if Busquets at 27 (peak age) and after playing for Barca for so long as a regular (and Spain) is not regarded as one of the top 2 in the world, then something is wrong. Unfortunately, he has not improved commensurately that one has to conclude he'd been given too much more than he could handle. It's embarrassing to see "top 2" player giving the ball away and then looking to the ref for help or running like a duck. Silliness.

dmcdad:

Does that mean Penaldo has not been among the top 2 for years now alongside Messi since he epitomises the emboldened? Smh...

logica:
Forget about press hype. Penaldo shouldn't even be regarded as top 10. He benefited from the scam orchestrated by Perez. I'm sure the crybaby had asked for assistance in upstaging Messi and that's how all this season of tap-ins came about. Many years from now, football analysts who helped to fuel this scam will look back and shake their heads in embarassment.

logica:
It's like Brazil of the 80s. No top striker of note. One eyed man is King in the land of the blind. The fact that he's in the top at the moment does not mean he's not average. He has to up his game. If he played during the 90s (Golden Age of DMs), nobody would ever know him.

raumdeuter:


the Brazil of the 80's was not winning anything. The Brazil of the 80's didnt have a striker rated as the best in the world

As a 9 Suarez in another generation(90's) might not be rated as the best but we can only compare him to what he has to face and he is undisputedly the best 9 in the world

Currently there is no better DM than Busquets, If you know of any name them

logica:
Forget about press hype. Penaldo shouldn't even be regarded as top 10. He benefited from the scam orchestrated by Perez. I'm sure the crybaby had asked for assistance in upstaging Messi and that's how all this season of tap-ins came about. Many years from now, football analysts who helped to fuel this scam will look back and shake their heads in embarassment.

logica:
As a striker, Suarez will rate highly in any generation. The problem he had was Liverpool. He spent too long and was too loyal to an underperforming set of players.

Look, there are absolutes. You cannot tell me 50 Celsius is boiling water when I have seen what 100 Celsius is like. Now the fact that all we can see is 50 or less, will you now tell me that water at 50 Celsius is boiling?

I had hopes for Axel Witsel but he chose money over career development. His decision to go to Russia was a career killer IMO.

raumdeuter:

Axel Witsel wont even make the grade when discussing DM currently, Its like saying I have high hopes for Mikel

raumdeuter:


Suarez is undisputable number 1. In another generation he might not make top 3

If you cant see anyone better than him in the DM business currently then he is the best. No one knows what would have happened in another generation

Axel Witsel wont even make the grade when discussing DM currently, Its like saying I have high hopes for Mikel

So you cant tell any DM better than Busquets in the business despite him losing balls, being slow, giving ball away, being average being overrated and everything bad in the books

logica:
Forget about press hype. Penaldo shouldn't even be regarded as top 10. He benefited from the scam orchestrated by Perez. I'm sure the crybaby had asked for assistance in upstaging Messi and that's how all this season of tap-ins came about. Many years from now, football analysts who helped to fuel this scam will look back and shake their heads in embarassment.

dmcdad:

The emboldened though.

barackohandso:



Press hype or not CR7 is one of the best, he deserves his awards and achievements as he scores a lot of goals (which is what win matches). Forget sentiments

raumdeuter:


You sef dey see am Its like

Me: Suarez is a bad 9, terrible striker, He wastes chances, he bites people, he dives, he looks for referee sympathy, he doesnt release pass on time and everything bad


You: But who is a better 9 than Suarez currently?

Me: No answer.

You: So you cant mention a better 9 despite all the defects named for Suarez

Me: But that doesnt mean Suarez is good if he had played in the time of Ronaldo, Batistuta, Romario and those who played in the 90's, I once had high hope for Josip Drmic until he made a wrong career move to Leverkusen

dmcdad:



Cc: sebod, barackohandso, coded01, philfearon, barcablood, bykebyke, raumdeuter...

dmcdad:
Gbam! Your head is there.
Wait, I get something for you.

dmcdad:



Cc: sebod, barackohandso, coded01, philfearon, barcablood, bykebyke, raumdeuter...

logica:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/03/arsenals-santi-cazorla-rated-as-the-best-defensive-midfielder-in-europe-by-cies-football-observatory-5478910/

Is this the British press you were touting?

sebod:

Shebi na logica dey analyse, until he's able to name a better DM, na to just dey look ooooo.

sebod:

Shebi na logica dey analyse, until he's able to name a better DM, na to just dey look ooooo.

bykebyke:

Wont be surprised if i'm told that Logica makes bombs for a living.

raumdeuter:


You still havent told us any DM better than Busquets. He hasnt improved, he is average, he gives away the ball, looking for ref help

AT least there should be one player out there currently better than him in your own estimation or is it that the player doesnt exist?

bykebyke:

Wont be surprised if i'm told that Logica makes bombs for a living.

coded01:


Haha! Me I no dey oh...