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Dirty and Nonsense House Officer.
Just tell us you didn't know how to stabilise the patient instead of seeking a means to justify your ineptitude, hide your head in Shame. You're responsible for the death of that girl.

gsport:
Ur a murderer how there u talk about following orders from above, ur not obliged to obey immoral order,take a moment and assume is ur mother or family member, you would have defer the obey and treat them,

that moment wen u dont think before you write


too many stupid individuals on nairaland

alpontif:
The OP should accept responsibility. Psychologically speaking, you posted this article because your conscience is truly judging you that you did not give your best.

You want to pass the blame to your Oga, and hide under "orders" from above for plain cowardice to do the right thing.

Heroes are made in impossible situations.

You have no consolation from me. It is your fault that some died. You could have made a difference.

You are a big disappointment to the profession, and humanity.

God bless u jare,that doctor is a killer not a doctor,I feel like seeing him right now,to give him a good slap,he now comes here to talk rubbish, may the lady's ghost torment u and ur oga them.bad Doctor

@Op What's the worse the system would have done if you had attended to the patient without pay. Kindly answer this, I really need to learn. I am not in the medical field, but I understand 'Situations'.

vewie sad...may God continue 2 help us n protect us. I pray as we r approaching d nw yr. no evil will b4ll us ijn. as 4 d govt, I go try yan with pmb..e go find solution.

cosmatika:
Tears run down my cheek as I type this. I went into d medical profession to Save lives, but today I watched a patient die and I could do nothing.
It was around 11am today, 26th Dec 2015, I wz in the emergency room as the only Dr & House officer on call in a state Specialist hospital wen a peugeot wagon followed by a police van drove in. They opened d doors & trunk and started bringing out Accident victims. I did a quick triage & saw dat d 2 in d trunk were in a more critical condition, So d immediate plan was to refer d 2 to FMC wia dey hav better hands and equipment to handle it. So I asked d policeman who d driver is so dat d 2 will be rushed to FMC & he said he died at d Accident scene. I ran outside to buy airtime to start calling other HOs, b4 I could return, dey had dropped d 2 & drove off.
I called other HOs, only 2 showed up, others had travelled. To my greatest suprise, I called a medical officer who is a snr colleague in d proffession, she said I shud nt touch anyone till dey paid. That I shud Infact refer all of dem. I was incapacitated, d patients were in pains, crying, calling on us to help, some already unconscious, but we couldnt help cos we have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in her early 20s died. Abt 10mins later, another police van came and carried d remaining 7 to FMC.
This evening, some road safety corps came to inquire if any Accident victims were brought to our center. They had retrieved d manifest frm d vehicle and contacted d families of d passengers. Dey came wit d relations of one of d patients, and wen I told dem 1 of dem died, dey asked for d Description of d 1 dat died and I showed dem d pix of d gal dat died, behold she was d 1 dey were looking for and right there was the gal's fiancee. Their traditional wedding was to be in 3days tym
I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable Drs treat patients in such condition. Let's Save the human race

So pathetic. What a nation

cosmatika:
I bet u wntd to do medicine but failed, hence ur rant against Drs. So u dnt knw dat govt policies affect healthcare provision in dis country? Or u dnt knw dat d nurses re d custodians of d equipments? So if a Nurse seys I won't bring out d oxygen cylinder cos px has nt registered I'll go fight her? Use ur head

You are such an idiot to assert that! What he is saying is true. An accident victim came, you could not even at least do the following:

-Secure IV access, since they may be loosing blood.

-Take blood for urgent PCV, grouping and cross-matching for any emergency transfusion that the critical ones you triaged may need.

-At least examine the patient as a whole, look out for areas of injury, palpate the abdomen and make sure there is no guarding that could suggest internal organ rupture like the spleen.

-Provide pain relief etc etc.

-Did they not teach you the ABC of rescusitation? You don't know that A starts for

A- Airway
B-Breathing
C- Cardiac function
D - Drugs
E - Examination (Quick)

- How stupiid are you that critical patients would be brought to your center (Accident and Emergency), and the first thing you are saying is for them to be referred? Is your work place a Babalawo center that you have to refer them at just sighting them? Won't you make sure that they are in stable condition first.

-You are stupidly calling on the government - to do what? Are they doctors? Do they know how to rescucitate patients? you foolishly called your lazy asss medical officer...what do you expect... Infact, if I am Seun and moderators, I would ban you from Nairaland!

-You are a house officer for goodness sake, the first on call, you ought to have stabilized the patients before calling anyone.

-You should be ashamed to call yourself a doctor. If anything you and the hospital should be sued and made to repeat your housemanship!

Nonsense!

-CramJones

They are all the same. That was how they watch my father die in my arm without offering any help. General hospital,isolo. Wicked hospital stupid citizen

ritababe:

lol

Babe u were slayed by the Doc

ikombe:
that moment wen u dont think before you write


too many stupid individuals on nairaland

Who's this one?
What if the said lady is ur sister?
U won't be here to spew rubbish o
U are as stupid and mad like the pocket doctor

Dio1:
Dirty and Nonsense House Officer.
Just tell us you didn't know how to stabilise the patient instead of seeking a means to justify your ineptitude, hide your head in Shame. You're responsible for the death of that girl.

Yes he his,his a murderer !!!

xavier0327:


As in eh? I tire....i would save lives first!!! Medical doctor indeed!! What's the worst that can happen? ?? You get fired? Won't you have some consolation at least that you did the right thing? You are coming here to lament!! Mstheeeew!

Doesn't he earn salary? Y not use his money to make d deposit. Smh for d OP sef. The guy stingy die!!

So pathetic. Being a Doctor is more of a calling than a profession. Op as much as you showed emphaty for the victims, you could have done better. Sincerely the sanctity of human lives is so paramount and irreplaceable. Please next time just try your best to save that life....no matter the bottleneck. God bless!

If I were u I would ve gone against the hospital policy and treat them since is now question of life and death. You prefer to save your job than saving life? I hardly see a doctor looking for job so why did you allow some to die when u could ve done something and clear ur conscience. Now you re a murderer including ur seniors. Tell me the name of that ur hospital so that all of you will. Be sacked and replaced with God fearing beings

If there is a hell, I think the hottest part of hell is reserved for medical professionals who go against their oath to save lives, for the lure of filthy lucre. @OP: If you feel that you are not allowed to uphold your Hippocratic oath where you work, you should resign. Doctors are in high demand, you studied medicine to save lives.

As sad as it is, the OP is simply a reflection of medical practice in Nigeria. This is the same country where Doctors collect money from medical reps to prescribe their products, even if the products prescribed are at the detriment of patients.

Why would patients have to pay before they receive treatment at A and E? Shocking.

@op. The reasons you could not help
A) you are a coward
B) you are a dunce. You didn't know what to do. You have no business being a doctor.

Don't come and look for cheap sympathy here

Just need some clarification doc... If given the go ahead and you had the opportunity to treat the victims, what would you say their chances of surviItal was? ( preferably in %)

ajuwarhodes:

Yes he his,his a murderer !!!

Una wicked for Nairaland. .....abeg free Op

Being a house officer is not an excuse for not even giving first aid or siting an iv line or doing anything at all to help the RTA victims. What I just see is a doc that just didn't know what to do? U didn't even try stabilizing patients before calling the SR. U shld jst stfu n its even so annoying that u brought ur unprofessional n annoying conduct here expecting pity or what?
N:B- I am a doc too n I did my house job ten years ago and during my time we were too eager to learn n seeing trauma cases used to be an opportunity for us to learn n nobody waits for the SR unless u ve tried n can see the case is beyond you. Stop spending all your time on social media n lose the fear n start treating patients n saving lives. Where you presently are I'm sure the nurses no fit strict pass those wey uch

muy:
A life is more important and sacred than any order you could have received from above. The worst that you could get was a sack but conscience would have vindicated you for saving a life and heavens would have smiled on you. You failed in your Primary Responsibility of life saving, apparently you watched her die while you could help, why lament here when the deed was done. I am afraid, u valued money more than life.
You wouldn't allow your fiance pass away in your presence because of an order from above will you?
At a time like this, disobeying orders to save lives is better than obeying orders when a life is at stake.
You have faults here.

Or at least, since money is d barrier here, he could v deposited money from his earnings. He's very stingy n contributed to their death too.I wonder where he got d nerves to lament here, after messing up.

cosmatika:
Tears run down my cheek as I type this. I went into d medical profession to Save lives, but today I watched a patient die and I could do nothing.
It was around 11am today, 26th Dec 2015, I wz in the emergency room as the only Dr & House officer on call in a state Specialist hospital wen a peugeot wagon followed by a police van drove in. They opened d doors & trunk and started bringing out Accident victims. I did a quick triage & saw dat d 2 in d trunk were in a more critical condition, So d immediate plan was to refer d 2 to FMC wia dey hav better hands and equipment to handle it. So I asked d policeman who d driver is so dat d 2 will be rushed to FMC & he said he died at d Accident scene. I ran outside to buy airtime to start calling other HOs, b4 I could return, dey had dropped d 2 & drove off.
I called other HOs, only 2 showed up, others had travelled. To my greatest suprise, I called a medical officer who is a snr colleague in d proffession, she said I shud nt touch anyone till dey paid. That I shud Infact refer all of dem. I was incapacitated, d patients were in pains, crying, calling on us to help, some already unconscious, but we couldnt help cos we have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in her early 20s died. Abt 10mins later, another police van came and carried d remaining 7 to FMC.
This evening, some road safety corps came to inquire if any Accident victims were brought to our center. They had retrieved d manifest frm d vehicle and contacted d families of d passengers. Dey came wit d relations of one of d patients, and wen I told dem 1 of dem died, dey asked for d Description of d 1 dat died and I showed dem d pix of d gal dat died, behold she was d 1 dey were looking for and right there was the gal's fiancee. Their traditional wedding was to be in 3days tym
I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable Drs treat patients in such condition. Let's Save the human race

But you did nothing
You stood there and let her die
How are you better than the snr colleague who told you to stand down?
Have you not heard that all it takes for evil to prevail is for "good" people to do nothing?
If you had attended to the dying lady, would you madam have killed you?
You just stood there and let her die.
When the family came did you tell them this story? Of how you watched her die cos she was in a coma and couldn't walk to the atm to draw money so yo could treat her?
You are part/a product of a failed system.
If all doctors took responsibility and stopped ranting like you are doing now blaming someone else, Nigeria would be a better place.
No wonder some moronic misguided fool sitting in the gulag has the temerity to call the place a zoo.

cosmatika:
Did u read everything at all? I'm a house officer, d lowest in d medical ladder. Can't tek some decisions wtout my snrs. Its a govt hospt & nt my father's

You are a hypocrite. You started with a rhetoric that you are a doctor to save lives and yet you blatantly refused to act on your life-goal when the opportunity came, just because you are afraid to be sacked, queried or suspended.

You could have gone ahead to SAVE that life regardless of whose ox is gored... then you can come and face the consequences. Even if you loose your job, there would be fulfilment. But no, opposite is the case... you love the job/salary more than your life purpose.

Why are you rushing out to buy recharge cards and make calls when there is an emergency? That's lackadaisical. There are several admin and support staff that could do that.

Quit blaming the government for this particular incident, the girl's blood is on your head.

If you really want to save lives, please join a medical NGO such as Red Cross. Mtscheew

cosmatika:
Tears run down my cheek as I type this. I went into d medical profession to Save lives, but today I watched a patient die and I could do nothing.
It was around 11am today, 26th Dec 2015, I wz in the emergency room as the only Dr & House officer on call in a state Specialist hospital wen a peugeot wagon followed by a police van drove in. They opened d doors & trunk and started bringing out Accident victims. I did a quick triage & saw dat d 2 in d trunk were in a more critical condition, So d immediate plan was to refer d 2 to FMC wia dey hav better hands and equipment to handle it. So I asked d policeman who d driver is so dat d 2 will be rushed to FMC & he said he died at d Accident scene. I ran outside to buy airtime to start calling other HOs, b4 I could return, dey had dropped d 2 & drove off.
I called other HOs, only 2 showed up, others had travelled. To my greatest suprise, I called a medical officer who is a snr colleague in d proffession, she said I shud nt touch anyone till dey paid. That I shud Infact refer all of dem. I was incapacitated, d patients were in pains, crying, calling on us to help, some already unconscious, but we couldnt help cos we have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in her early 20s died. Abt 10mins later, another police van came and carried d remaining 7 to FMC.
This evening, some road safety corps came to inquire if any Accident victims were brought to our center. They had retrieved d manifest frm d vehicle and contacted d families of d passengers. Dey came wit d relations of one of d patients, and wen I told dem 1 of dem died, dey asked for d Description of d 1 dat died and I showed dem d pix of d gal dat died, behold she was d 1 dey were looking for and right there was the gal's fiancee. Their traditional wedding was to be in 3days tym
I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable Drs treat patients in such condition. Let's Save the human race

My brother you're not a zombie at all though some people have chosen to work like zombie in this life.
You got orders , but between orders and doing that which is right at that very moment which one mattered to you as a man with conscience and empathy for fellow humans which was more important ?

Because a little stabilization of the victims would have saved lives but you cowardly left them to die blaming it on orders and Government policies.

emmchi:
I think saving a life is paramount irrespective of the order from above.

Don't mind the idiot.
He let her die and came her to post it
Heartless fook

, May d soul of the dead ones RIP.....

cramjones:


You are such an idiot to assert that! What he is saying is true. An accident victim came, you could not even at least do the following:

-Secure IV access, since they may be loosing blood.

-Take blood for urgent PCV, grouping and cross-matching for any emergency transfusion that the critical ones you triaged may need.

-At least examine the patient as a whole, look out for areas of injury, palpate the abdomen and make sure there is no guarding that could suggest internal organ rupture like the spleen.

-Provide pain relief etc etc.

-Did they not teach you the ABC of rescusitation? You don't know that A starts for

A- Airway
B-Breathing
C- Cardiac function
D - Drugs
E - Examination (Quick)

- How stupiid are you that critical patients would be brought to your center (Accident and Emergency), and the first thing you are saying is for them to be referred? Is your work place a Babalawo center that you have to refer them at just sighting them? Won't you make sure that they are in stable condition first.

-You are stupidly calling on the government - to do what? Are they doctors? Do they know how to rescucitate patients? you foolishly called your lazy asss medical officer...what do you expect... Infact, if I am Seun and moderators, I would ban you from Nairaland!

-You are a house officer for goodness sake, the first on call, you ought to have stabilized the patients before calling anyone.

-You should be ashamed to call yourself a doctor. If anything you and the hospital should be sued and made to repeat your housemanship!

Nonsense!

-CramJones

Ohhhhh ohhhhh,
U have said the best words to this idiot calling himself a Doctor. Yes he shld be banned
People like him shld be in the cage cos his an animal.I so hate the guy right now.
Murderer!!!seun pls ban this idiot that calls himself a doctor.
Stupid thing,saying tears runs down his eyes
God purnish u op/Doctor

cosmatika:
Did u read everything at all? I'm a house officer, d lowest in d medical ladder. Can't tek some decisions wtout my snrs. Its a govt hospt & nt my father's

I sympathize with you and the predicament in which you found yourself. But honestly you could have gone ahead to treat the patient and expose the the Dr that told you not to treat any patient until they paid.
As a doctor you know your first duty to save lives. In this regard you and the senior colleague have failed and therefore contributed to the death of the young lady. I am sorry if I sound harsh it's just the way I see it.

@OP Your writing is too poor for a doctor.
No wonder you couldn't save those lives because of some damn "order from above".
Screw your seniors.

Weighty! I don't envy the load you are carrying. Unfortunately, while I understand that you couldn't have gone against orders, I also think you could have done something, perhaps not even using equipment but something that would have made the victims more comfortable even in their discomfort knowing how they pack these victims haphazardly.

This is where I have a problem with doctors; you know how the system works...what have you done to make it better. Yes, your salary and work conditions are poor as compared to most countries but what have you done for the ones you took an oath for? It isn't just enough to go to work and see as many patients as possible; you should fight for the patients as well.

If I wrote a public letter addressing the president on the challenges of the health sector, I would write as a layman that I am not fully informed or aware of certain cirucumstances but imagine the difference if a doctor was to write!

What should be done about accident victims? Are there certain hospitals that should be funded by the government to care for accident victims so that even if they end up not paying, the hospital isn't carrying the financial strain?
Should there be signposts at hospitals directing a driver of the nearest emergency centre or recommended hospitals for accident victims, since not all hospitals can care for accident victims?
If nothing can be done for a victim, to what degree should such a person be made comfortable?
These questions and more are what doctors of whatever specialty need to consider even if it means interacting with the public. We cannot continue with such a dysfunctional system.