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Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by RedCapChief(m): 11:14pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cramjones: 1. The HO wasn't not incompetent by calling his senior. That is the first thing to do as a junior officer. You call the senior person once you have an emergency. 2. Nobody is going to sack the MO for instructing the HO to refer all those patients. It has happened severally with me. If you can't treat, you refer. 3. Let us even assume that the HO disobeys the senior and starts treating . . .and then one of the patients dies . . .That is now a case of hospital mortality. . .When the hospital ethics/disciplinary panel gets information that a house-officer was trying to play superhero, I assure you, they will not be merciful I have worked as a HO in a govt hospital. Have you? 15 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by bayulll01(m): 11:14pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
klassiquette: what has that got to do with change the truth is most doc in nig are not professional,we dont value life 2 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by FemiFaniKayode: 11:15pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by bankylan: 11:15pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
My friends husband relocated to Canada because of stuffs like this...My friend told me her husband comes home crying sometimes because lives would have been saved but for bureaucracy and lack of proper equipment including our hospitals.... 3 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by eyinjuege: 11:15pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
prisiluv: But at least they tried! We all know you can't save everyone, and people do die in the best of centers, but at least you as a doctor played your part and not just watch with arms folded like a meat seller lamenting and saying aww, what a pity... such a fine young girl...yadayadayada 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:15pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
eyinjuege: If he does, he would also be liable to the crime. He is a first line doctor. Before he called he would have taken action, that is what he is paid to do. He is called the "FIRST on call" for a reason. I wish I had the name of Cosmatika, I would sue him myself and make sure he spends some couple of years in jail so that he would know what medical practice is all about! This doctor in the UK (a Nigeria) would be cooling her heels in jail because she stopped resuscitating a 6 year old boy who later died. And yet, this idiot called cosmatika comes here to call on government to help him resuscitate accident victims http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/04/leicester-doctor-convicted-over-death-of-six-year-old-boy CramJones 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Quelme: 11:16pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
alpontif:his conscience is pricking him, no doubt... He's just a pure coward... 2 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Leopantro: 11:16pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cramjones: But you are wrong. I am a doctor and I work in the Nigerian system. Let me give you a story. Some time ago I delivered a pre-term baby that is a baby born at 24 weeks . Immediately after birth the baby stopped breathing. The hospital I worked with didn't have oxygen and the two incubators where in use. I used my own oxygen cylinder on the baby and did ambubagged that is cardiac massage in the baby for it to breath normally. We entered my car and rushed to LASUTH. We were told no bed space and were referred to LUTH. We drove to LUTH, parked at the car park and walked over a 7 minutes to the pediatric ward where we were told they had no free incubator and had no electricity supply. We were referred to a private hospital in Surulere where the consultant was not around. We decided to go back to our hospital to continue care for the baby. Please note that all this time I was doing cardiac massage on this baby while someone else drove. On our way back to the hospital, the oxygen finished, the baby turned blue and died. We got back to the hospital and the husband beat me up for not saving the baby. This happened 4 years ago ; till date I have not received a dime for what I did. This is what happens everyday. 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Crocz(m): 11:16pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Purposebabe:What line of reasoing is this abeg?...why would a QUALIFIED doctor lose his licence for treating an accident victim when he's not a quack?...pls stfu and go sleep sir 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Lexusgs430: 11:17pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
FemiFaniKayode: If our health sector was well funded, he would not be making calls, he would be saving lives!!! 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Analysiscorner: 11:19pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
alpontif:Please, don't carry it too far, Bro. But, you're right. |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by FemiFaniKayode: 11:20pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Lexusgs430: Bros who told you he needed "funds" to start treatment on an emergency patient? 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:20pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
RedCapChief: 1. How can they bring accident victims and the first thing you do is to start making calls? Is that what you were thought in medical school? Won't you be the FIRST-LINE doctor that you are and resuscitate the patient first and then call your senior (SECOND-LINE)? Will you give a second line drug when the first line drug has not been tried or proven to be resistant? 2. Shut up! An accident and emergency is for first-line treatment. The HO in this case did nothing. He is first and foremost supposed to stabilize patients before referring. Except where he works is NOT a HOSPITAL. 3. That is BS! No one, I repeat NO ONE can punish the house officer if he attempted resuscitating and the patient died. The real problem is no longer the goverment is the doctors. If you are talking like this and you are doctor, then I am so pissed! -CramJones 4 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Bjergtrolde: 11:20pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cramjones: Ehen, Drugs in resuscitation comes under where it is required. There is no separate category for drugs. So your adrenaline for Bradycardia would come under circulation. Though if a bleeding accident victim has become bradycardic, adrenaline is not going to do diddly squat for you. So Dr C Jones, do you really expect that OPs State Hospital has some adrenaline, fluids etc lying around? Lets be honest with ourselves. The high mortality rate following RTA's are because our hospitals are not equipped to handle it. Cut OP some slack. 2 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by adahib: 11:20pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
kelechiMarie: I'm glad you pray to get to a level where you can do that. I hope you achieve it. Like you rightly pointed out,how many patients can you pay for? As a house officer in O&G,we had a patient who required emergency c/s,I thought I was helping by signing as a surety at the blood bank for two pints of O-negative blood. We know how expensive that is. The patient left the hospital without paying. I was called daily by the H.O.D of heamatology to come pay. Finally,I had to go write for it to be deducted from my next salary. My dear, I don learn my lessons. I'm not forming any unnecessary heroics for patients who will never appreciate it at the end of the day. I'll do my job as best as I can but nobody should expect me to take any unnecessary risk for him or her.... 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Analysiscorner: 11:21pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
ccaramel:My dear! I am with you. |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by arnold123: 11:22pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cosmatika:nigeria is a greedy country filled with heartless leaders and people who derive sexual pleasure in watching their neighbour and fellow human die and suffer kmt, necromantic people devil Go soon punish dem and God will watch dem suffer just as what they are doing to us as at now, watch and see, you can't convince a monkey that honey is sweeter than banana neither can u plant banana and get plantain 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Crocz(m): 11:23pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Leopantro:Maybe you are getting the whole thing wrong...sometimes you don't get paid or praised for a good act, the most important thing is to satisfy you conscience...and also live up to the oath of saving lives to the best of you capability...that's all the young lady needed, that's what the baby you almost saved needed (unfortunately he didn't make). People may not acknowledge your sacrifice but you satisfy your conscience and you know you did all you could...that's what matters 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:23pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Leopantro: I totally understand this scenario. And I tell you this is completely different from what this house officer faced. If you are a doctor, you should not be defending him. In your case, the baby died as a result of a broken system. In this Op's case, the patients died as a result of his incompetence and ineptitude. He did not perform his duty as a first on call. He was scared seeing accident victims, panicked and started making calls without doing nothing! -CramJones |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Leopantro: 11:23pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cramjones: You obviously don't work in Hospitals. The HO did the right thing by calling the MO. As a doctor, know your limit. Even consultants call other consultants for assistance ; it's called consult 5 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by shindarayo(f): 11:24pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cosmatika:pls ansa dis question if it wre ur sista,mother,any relative or even.ur fiance in dt position wld u still.say d same.I bet my left boob u will not only fight her ull kill her if dt will get u d necessary equipment needed to save dir lives...dont blame u though,nig system is bleeped..may her soul rip. |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by missjane: 11:25pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
@OP; abeg delete this post before the dead girl's fiance comes across it.. he may be a nairalnder.. its a small world. He knows your hospital and it will make him very bitter to know the truth about what happened.. he may come for ur life or that of your superior. What has happened has happened.. learn from the mistake and pray that God removes the feeling of blood guiltiness on you.. if you know an order will cause you this type of depression next time, don't obey it. Look to God to supply all you need to save a life |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:25pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Bjergtrolde: I won't cut him any slack! I won't cut him some slack for indirectly killing a patient for his inactions. Yes, we have issues in our healthcare system. But this OP displayed gross incompetence and ineptitude in performing his job as a FIRST-ON CALL. If prosecuted this OP will end up in jail! -CramJones 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by FemiFaniKayode: 11:25pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
[size=14pt]OP has ran away!!! in page 1 he was running his mouth like Pepeye as if he is talking to Akposes[/size] |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by streetzdreamz(m): 11:25pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cosmatika:hmmmmm,just what I was telling my friend studying medicine this evening,attitudes of medical personnel to emergency cases,I thought its life first then money or whatever,yea I know you people have laws and policies governing your actions but that senior colleague of yours needs to be sacked and sued,how many lives have been wasted by her,via this attitude?accident victims are helpless at that moment and need all the help and wishes in the world,for Pete's sake how do you expect em to pay for their treatments when they not even conscious of their environment,4yrs ago I had a car crash and this same scenario played out,no one attended to me until I paid cuz I was still conscious,a very critical case would be a replica of what just happened today,heaven knows you did your best,if you ain't pained you won't share this story,may God replenish your efforts.......I wish this stupid seta pot bellied assembly men would just pass a single sane bill,as regards this issue rather than their constant foolish rants!!!!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:26pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cosmatika:if u truly wanted to help, u cld break d policy. highest tin u use ur moni pay.dis is life for Gods sake |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Analysiscorner: 11:27pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
adahib:Very sad that your patient treated you that way. But, you are happier that your action helped prolong ones life. Also, if the patient had died without care, your conscience might have been feeling guilty. |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by RedCapChief(m): 11:27pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
ccaramel:Nobody controls anybody, but you can't work independently. If the nurse refuses to bring out the equipment, what are you going to do? Beat her up? Start looking for her senior nurse when the patient's minutes are wasting away? We have a bad system and even the brightest stars will underperform in a bad environment. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Lexusgs430: 11:27pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
FemiFaniKayode: So the logistics he would in the emergency situation is free? |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Nobody: 11:27pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Leopantro: Nonesense! Yes, doctors should no their limit, but did he tell you he did any thing? No - Instead he started making calls when patients needed urgent care. Where in the world do you see accident victims brought into an A & E and then the doctor on call instead of doing a resuscitation start making calls? Where? This is just so sickening! According to this quack doctor called leopantro, when an accident victim meets a first on call, the first thing he recomends is for the doctor to send or abi write a consult? How stuupid are the doctors we have in Nigeria! How stupiid! -CramJones 1 Like |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Bjergtrolde: 11:28pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
cramjones: I guess we just have to agree to disagree. No court will find this chap guilty. |
Re: My Bitter Experience As A Doctor Today by Applaner: 11:28pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
urs is even beta. a patient died today b/cos de doctor refused (or shld I say) delayed in transfusing blood. see how de patient's relatives reacted. de other day a doctor left a patient in a very critical condition and went for seminar at de instruction of his senior colleague, BT didn't come back to si de girl alive. some doctors are just wicked with no human sympathy. |
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