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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 7:15pm On Dec 27, 2015
Judge 1



Mustybura(unilorin)
1. Presentation-3
2. Logic- 4
3. Strength- 4
4. Persuasiveness - 5
5. understanding of topic - 4
Total=20

Tourshaw(unilorin)
1. Presentation- 4
2. Logic-5
3. Strength -4
4. Persuasiveness- 5
5.Understanding of topic-5
Total score= 23

Noskyboy(unijos)
1.Presentation- 3
2. Logic-4
3. Strength -5
4. Persuasiveness- 5
5.Understanding of topic-3
Total score= 20

Obizeal (unijos)
1.Presentation- 4
2. Logic-2
3. Strength -5
4. Persuasiveness- 5
5.Understanding of topic-5
Total score= 21

Olalrey(U.I)
1.Presentation- 4
2. Logic-3
3. Strength -4
4. Persuasiveness- 3
5.Understanding of topic-5
Total score= 19

Thollulope(U.I)
1. Presentation- 4
2. Logic-5
3. Strength -5
4. Persuasiveness- 5
5.Understanding of topic-4
Total score= 23

Geestary(Uniuyo)
1.Presentation- 5
2. Logic-3
3. Strength -4
4. Persuasiveness- 3
5.Understanding of topic-5
Total score= 20

Dongraspo(Uniuyo)
1.Presentation- 5
2. Logic-5
3. Strength -4
4. Persuasiveness- 5
5.Understanding of topic-5
Total score= 24






[size=15pt]UNILORIN : 43
UNIJOS : 41
UNIBADAN 42
UNIUYO : 44[/size]
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 7:27pm On Dec 27, 2015
Judge 2



MustyBura

1)Pers. - 3
2) Logic of arg. - 3
3) Strength of facts - 4
4) Persuasiveness- 4
5) Demo of Know - 4

Total - 18/25

Tourshaw

1) P- 4
2) L.o.a - 4
3) S.o.F - 4
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.K - 4

Total - 20/25

Dugraspo
1) P. -       2
2) L.o.A -  2
3) S.o.f -   4
4) Pers -   2
5) D.o.k -  3

Total - 13/25

Geestary

1) P. - 4
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 3
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 3

Total - 18/25

Thollulope

1) P. - 4
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 4
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 5

Total - 21/25

Olalerey

1) P. - 2
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 5
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 4

 Total - 19/25




Noskyboy

1) P. -   3
2) L.o.A -  4
3) S.o.f -  4
4) Pers -  3
5) D.o.k -  4

 Total - 18/25

Obizeal

1) P.- 4
2) L.o.A - 3
3) S.o.f - 4
4) Pers - 3
5) D.o.k - 4

Total - 18/25



[size=15pt]Total
UNILORIN : 38
UNIJOS : 36
UNIBADAN : 40
UNIUYO : 31[/size]
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Nobody: 7:37pm On Dec 27, 2015
Nice result from the end of my team mates.


#RepTeamUnilorinLeader
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 7:40pm On Dec 27, 2015
1) Mustybura

A) Presentation‎: 3

B) Logic of arguments: 3

C) Strength of facts: 2

D) Persuasiveness : 2

E) Demonstration of knowledge : 3
 Total= 13


Tourshaw

A) Presentation‎: 2

B) Logic of argument: 2

C) Strength of facts: 2

D) Persuasiveness : 2

E) Demonstration of know3edge : 2
  Total= 10


Noskyboy

A) Presentation : 2

B) Logic of argument: 3

C) Strength of Facts : 4

D) Persuasiveness : 3

E) Demonstration of knowledge : 3
 Total= 15

Obi Zeal

A) Presentation : 2

B) Logic of arguments : 3

C) ‎Strength of Facts: 2

D) persuasiveness : 2

E) Demonstration of Knowledge : 2
  Total= 11

Olalerey

A) Presentation : 2

B) Logic of arguments: 2

C) Strength of Facts: 2

D) Persuasiveness : 2

E) Demonstration of Knowledge: 2
 Total= 10


Thollulope

A) Presentation : 3

B) Logic of arguments : 3

C) Strength of facts: 2

D) Persuasiveness : 2 

E) Demonstration of Knowledge : 3

                                                                    Total: 13


Geestarry

A) Presentation : 3

B) Logic of arguments : 3

C) Strength of Facts: 2

D) Persuasiveness : 3

E) Demonstration of knowledge : 3
 Total= 14


Dongraspo

A) Presentation: 5

B) Logic of arguments: 4

C) Strength of Facts: 5

D) Persuasiveness : 4

E) Demonstration of knowledge: 4
 Total= 22


[size=15pt]Unilorin: 23
UNIJOS: 26
UNIBADAN : 23
UNIUYO : 36
[/size]
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 7:46pm On Dec 27, 2015
[size=18pt]GRAND TOTAL...


Unilorin: 104
UNIJOS: 103
UNIBADAN : 105
UNIUYO : 108
[/size]

















Qualifiers. : UNIUYO and UNIBADAN...





However there is still hope for both UNILORIN and UNIJOS. That hope will be made known on the 29th...







Judges comments?



KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Tourshaw: 8:02pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:
[size=18pt]GRAND TOTAL...


Unilorin: 104
UNIJOS: 103
UNIBADAN : 105
UNIUYO : 108
[/size]

















Qualifiers. : UNIUYO and UNIBADAN...





However there is still hope for both UNILORIN and UNIJOS. That hope will be made known on the 29th...







Judges comments?



KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks





I can't hold my temper anymore. At moderator fynestboi, I think there's inequality in your judgement. first, there are 3 judges, how will your only judgement overpower the other two?
Secondly, I asked you on the chatting room if mindless lifting is allowed but you didn't answer. The best debater to you Sir, the guy from Uniuyo did mindless lifting and yet you said he is the best. I write this just for you to be mindful of the integrity of this competition. You may be thinking, it's just a trivial pursuit but to us, it means a lot. I had restless days and sleepless nights just because of this competition. Your last judgement singlehandedly ruined the integrity of this e-debate. I just want you to look at the Uniuyo guy debate and a naij.com post https://www.naij.com/402850-top-12-corruption-cases.html
you will understand me better what I mean by mindless lifting
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by noskyboy(m): 8:02pm On Dec 27, 2015
hmmmm, na wa o. got reservations about the result and style of judgment plus, attention was not paid to certain important things. but its all good. thanks for the opportunity.
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:08pm On Dec 27, 2015
noskyboy:
Let see what you have to type sir.. . However you both team might still be call back. Don't give up bro.
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:14pm On Dec 27, 2015
Tourshaw:






I can't hold my temper anymore. At moderator fynestboi, I think there's inequality in your judgement. first, there are 3 judges, how will your only judgement overpower the other two?



Secondly, I asked you on the chatting room if mindless lifting is allowed but you didn't answer. The best debater to you Sir, the guy from Uniuyo did mindless lifting and yet you said he is the best. I write this just for you to be mindful of the integrity of this competition. You may be thinking, it's just a trivial pursuit but to us, it means a lot. I had restless days and sleepless nights just because of this competition. Your last judgement singlehandedly ruined the integrity of this e-debate. I just want you to look at the Uniuyo guy debate and a naij.com post https://www.naij.com/402850-top-12-corruption-cases.html
you will understand me better what I mean by mindless lifting

Haba my guy I only posted what was sent to me from the judges...


@bolded I don't understand sir...



Having three four judges means nothing as it was never stated the number of judges to be use.




The judges will do so to answer to you coz am not in the right position to do that...



KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by obiZEAL(m): 8:14pm On Dec 27, 2015
Tourshaw:






I can't hold my temper anymore. At moderator fynestboi, I think there's inequality in your judgement. first, there are 3 judges, how will your only judgement overpower the other two?
Secondly, I asked you on the chatting room if mindless lifting is allowed but you didn't answer. The best debater to you Sir, the guy from Uniuyo did mindless lifting and yet you said he is the best. I write this just for you to be mindful of the integrity of this competition. You may be thinking, it's just a trivial pursuit but to us, it means a lot. I had restless days and sleepless nights just because of this competition. Your last judgement singlehandedly ruined the integrity of this e-debate. I just want you to look at the Uniuyo guy debate and a naij.com post https://www.naij.com/402850-top-12-corruption-cases.html
you will understand me better what I mean by mindless lifting
Fynestboi, u should take this seriously...I can't believe that that guy was not disqualified after the copy and paste...I'm really doubting the dedication of the judges...
Kudos to u and the other coordinators!
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:16pm On Dec 27, 2015
obiZEAL:

Fynestboi, u should take this seriously...I can't believe that that guy was not disqualified after the copy and paste...I'm really doubting the dedication of the judges...
Kudos to u and the other coordinators!


We will look into it..
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:18pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:




Hmmmmmm... Can you point out the lifting?




Ooooo have seen it, copy and paste without editing....
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:20pm On Dec 27, 2015
KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks





Comments please...
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by sammyscholar(m): 8:25pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:



We will look into it..
He.
Fynestboi:




Hmmmmmm... Can you point out the lifting?
have you gone through the link he provived? I thinks he has a point - a critical one
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:26pm On Dec 27, 2015
sammyscholar:
He.have you gone through the link he provived? I thinks he has a point - a critical one



Yes I just did... But I can't alter judges score. I can only mail them to comment.
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:28pm On Dec 27, 2015
Dongraspo:
CORRUPTION IS A SOCIETAL EVIL CRIPPLING OUR COUNTRY, NIGERIA. WHO TAKES THE BLAME- LEADERS OR FOLLOWERS?

Good evening the Noble Moderator,Learned Judges and my Scholarly Co-debaters. I am AKANINYENE ARCHIBONG,a representative of University of Uyo, supporting the assertion that leaders take the blame for corruption in Nigeria.

Nigeria, with a population of over 100 million people, is the most populous country in
Africa; one in five Sub-Saharan Africans is a Nigerian. At the time of political independence,
on 1st October 1960, Nigeria was known for her exports of agricultural products including
groundnut, palm oil, cocoa, cotton, beans, timber, and hides and skins. Then, during the oil
boom period of the seventies Nigeria made headlines with her oil wealth, as the country is
richly endowed with oil and natural gas resources capable of financing a number of important
projects to meet basic consumption and development needs. With a per capita income of
around $1100 during the late 1970s Nigeria was regarded as the fastest growing country in
sub-Saharan Africa, thanks to the oil windfall. Since then Nigeria has been rarely off the
world press, but mostly due to notoriety rather than fame. One persistent accolade conferred
on Nigeria is that it is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The succession of
dictatorial regimes, disregard of human rights, political instability and economic
mismanagement have all contributed to cast Nigeria in a bad light internationally.
There are a number of definitions of corruption. The simplest definition, however, is that
it is the misapplication of public resources to private ends. For example, public officials
may collect bribes for issuing passports or visa, for providing permits and licenses, for
authorising passage of goods at sea/air port, for awarding contracts or for enacting
regulations designed to create artificial scarcity.
This is a list of the Top 11 corruption cases of the last four years:

1.N195 Billion Maina Pension Scam

It is believed that Alhaji Maina misappropriated billions of naira worth of pension funds, which he claimed to have recovered from pension thieves. The senate committee probing pension funds management accused him of mopping up pension funds from banks and depositing the money in his private accounts. According to the committee, this mopping of such funds had made it impossible to pay thousands of pensioners across the country for months. When he was summoned to appear and clear the air on the committee’s findings, Alhaji Maina instituted a N1.5bn case against the senate and the inspector general of police. Things came to a head, when the senate passed a resolution asking the presidency to sack Alhaji Maina within two days or face its wrath. Although the presidency had initially insisted that only the head of service could sack Maina, it subsequently changed its tone and ordered that disciplinary action should be taken against him for absconding from his duty post without permission.

2.Kerosene Subsidy Scam

The Former Governor of the Central bank and Now Emir of Kano, Mr Sanusi had shown that the kerosene subsidy was eliminated in 2009 by a directive of the late president Umaru Yar’Adua. Further evidence, in the form of official data from across Nigeria, shows that nowhere in the country is kerosene sold at a subsidised rate. It is bought by the NNPC at N150, sold to marketers at N40-N50, but retails at N170-N250. Mr Sanusi estimates that $100m goes astray this way each month.
“The margin of 300-500 per cent over purchase price is economic rent, which never got to the man on the street. In dollar terms every vessel of kerosene imported by NNPC with federation money cost about $30m and it was sold at $10 or $11m generating rent of $20m per vessel to the syndicate,” he writes.
It was learnt that since the national assembly members concluded their investigations, no officials of the NNPC or the marketers have been sanctioned, thus emboldening them to continue to import kerosene and allocate to themselves and their cronies.Apparently due to alleged pecuniary benefits, the NNPC has continued to import kerosene and allocate in questionable circumstances to individuals and groups at the ex-depot price of N40.90.But rather than selling the product at the subsidised price of N50 per litre at filling stations, the beneficiaries of these allocations sell the product to middlemen at N95 or N100 per litre at the gates of the depots.
These middlemen, it was learnt, truck the product to the filling stations and sell between N130 and N150 per litre.
It was alleged that marketers give some of their allocations to some top PPMC officials to ensure that they turn blind eye to the scam.
The failure of the NNPC to implement a presidential directive removing subsidy from kerosene has fuelled suspicion among the stakeholders.

3.$6bn Fuel Subsidy Scam

Nigeria’s parliament has discussed a report said to reveal that $6bn (£4bn) has been defrauded from the fuel subsidy fund in the past two years.
The debate, which was televised live, made official findings that have been widely leaked in recent days.
The fuel sector probe was set up in the wake of angry nationwide protests in January after the government tried to remove a fuel subsidy.
Nigeria is a major oil producer but has to import most of its fuel.

Notable members of the PDP or their families were involved in the scam like Mamman Ali and Mahmud Tukur.

4.123bn Naira Fraud – Stephen Oronsaye

A damning report by the Office of the Auditor-General of the Federation has indicted a former Head of the Civil Service of the Federation, Mr. Stephen Oronsaye, over an alleged N123billion fraud perpetrated during his tenure, between 2009 and 2010.
The 169-page report, entitled “Special Audit of the Accounts of the Civil Pensions,” according to an online news medium, Premium Times, found Oronsaye guilty of allegedly presiding over the looting of the nation’s resources during his tenure.
The audit by the auditor-general arose from the work of a Special Audit Team constituted by the federal government in May 2011 to conduct a comprehensive examination of the accounts of the Civilian Pension Department domiciled in the Office of the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation.
The audit, which covered the period 2005 to 2010, uncovered monumental financial irregularities, opaque transactions, irregular and abnormal running costs, and outright stealing and kick backs said to have reached its zenith during the 18 months that Oronsaye served as Head of Service.

But no action has been taken to bring all those indicted to book.

5.Police Pension Fund Fraud

The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) arraigned the ex-permanent secretary in the Ministry of Niger Delta Affairs, now a director in the Police Pension Office, Atiku Abubakar Kigo; the chief accountant, Mrs. Uzoma Cyril Attang, and four others before an Abuja high court on an 18-count charge of conspiracy, breach of trust and embezzlement of N32.8 billion police pension funds.
The six accused persons were docked before Justice Hussain Baba to whom the case was reassigned following a controversial judgement of the first trial judge, Justice Abubakar Talba: he gave a light sentence to one of the accused, John Yusuf, who pleaded guilty to a three-count charge.
But Attang, who was arraigned by the EFCC for the first time in connection with the alleged fraud, was granted N10million bail and two sureties in like sum.

Those who were re-arraigned include Esai Dangabar, Atiku Abubakar Kigo, Ahmed Inuwa Wada, Mrs Veronica Ulonma Onyegbula, Sani Habila Zira, Christian Madubuike, and John Yusuf who had been convicted.

6.Stella Oduah car purchase scandal

The committee set up by Former President Goodluck Jonathan to probe the N255m bulletproof car scandal in the aviation ministry has indicted the Minister, Ms. Stella Oduah.

It was gathered in Abuja that the report of the presidential committee tallied with some findings of the House of Representatives Committee on Aviation on the scandal.
In October, there were reports that with the approval of the minister, the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority purchased two bulletproof BMW cars at an allegedly inflated rate of N255m.

The development sparked a countrywide controversy with many Nigerians-FOLLOWERS and groups-FOLLOWERS calling for her sacking.

7.NNPC missing $20billion naira

Even in a country where untold oil wealth disappears into the pockets of the elite, the oil corruption scheme he was investigating seemed outsize — and he threatened to lay it bare at a meeting with Nigeria’s top bankers.
The whistleblower was none other than the former governor of the country’s central bank. Weeks later, however, he was out, fired by Nigeria’s president in an episode that has shaken the Nigerian economy, filled newspapers and airwaves here, and even inspired a rare street demonstration.

The bankers were going to have to open their books, the former governor, Lamido Sanusi, warned them at the recent meeting. He wanted to see where the money was going — $20 billion from oil sales that, mysteriously, was not making its way to the treasury, in a country that could soon be declared Africa’s biggest economy and already attracts the most direct foreign investment on the continent, according to the United Nations.

8.$15 million in Private Jet Arms Scandal

A private jet that conveyed $9.3 million cash from Nigeria to South Africa for an alleged arms deal between the two countries, had Nigerian crew members, and passengers from Israel and Austria.

Punishment: government claims involvement in scandal. No further explanations to individuals on board. Blames US for black market arms deal.

9.Crude Oil Theft Scandal

According to Former President Goodluck Jonathan, 300,000-400,000 barrels of oil per day, or more than 10% of all Nigeria’s production, is being lost at a cost to the state and oil companies of around £1bn a month – more than is spent on education and the health of the nation’s 168 million people. Not only is Nigerian oil theft helping to keep the world price of oil high, it is causing corruption and social disorder, says the president.

10.Ekiti Gate

The audio recordings depict the meeting as being attended by the eventual “winner” of the election, Governor Ayo Fayose of Ekiti; Senator Iyiola Omisore; a man identified as Honorable Abdulkareem; the Minister for Police Affairs Caleb Olubolade; and Senator Musiliu Obanikoro who was at the time the Minister of State for Defence. Mr. Chris Uba came to Ekiti with huge stash of cash and soldiers from the East to carry out the assignment.

The 37-minute recording details the conversation between these men as they bribed Brigadier General Momoh with a promotion for his assistance in carrying out election fraud in Ekiti. In it, Obanikoro is clearly heard informing the group of men, “I am not here for a tea party, I am on special assignment by the President.”
The audio recording provides exact details of the plot, with the collaborators almost degenerating into physical combat

11.Mohammed Abacha N446 Billion case

The government had Charged Abacha to court on nine counts of stealing against Mohammed in February 2014.
It had accused him of unlawfully receiving about N446.3bn allegedly stolen from its coffers between 1995 and 1998.

But later the Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Mr. Mohammed Adoke, asked Justice Mamman Kolo of the FCT High Court to strike out the charges on the grounds of “fresh facts” that just emerged concerning the case.

He was silent on whether new charges would be filed against Mohammed or not.
Efforts to arraign Mohammed on two previous occasions were unsuccessful because of his repeated absence from court.But when he was present in court, a private prosecuting counsel, Daniel Enwelum, informed the court of Adoke’s instruction to discontinue the case.
Applying to court for the withdrawal of the case, Enwelum said, “I have been instructed by the AGF and Minister of Justice to withdraw the charges as presently filed before this court, because there are fresh facts and documents available to him.


From the discourse above,it could be seen that the perpetuators of this atrocious, ghoulish and malicious act called corruption are our so-called LEADERS,then how is it the fault of the FOLLOWERS whose vote does not even count due to the various rigging machineries kept in place by our so-called LEADERS. Our opposition will argue that the followers are the ones to take the blame because they are the ones that voted the leaders into power. Even if that was true - without the rigging by the high and mighty in the society-LEADERS, how were the followers supposed to know that the people they are voting into office are wolves in sheep clothing. Even the constitution of the federation has not provided for that. Or are the followers now God or superbeings to know that the same person who appears gentle, intelligent, brilliant, brainy, ingenious, distinctive, etc will turn to be a corrupt leader when voted into office.
The leaders are the ones in control of these enormous resources, how is it the fault of the followers that they are using it for their personal ends? Why blame the followers?
In this world that money determines everything, the leaders have it all because of the corruption permeated by them and the followers have less,therefore it becomes difficult for the followers to fight them,then why do we blame the followers.
Is it the followers that make the unholy nefariously ogreish corrupt alliance with other countries or the leaders. Then why should we blame the followers?
The leaders have made corruption a culture in Nigeria. Measures should be adopted to check this menace that has eaten into the fabric of this nation. Followers should not be blamed but should be educated on the negative consequence of this menace so when the get to a leadership portfolio ,the mistake will not keep repeating itself.Negative consequence such as:

1.Poor investment
2.Rise in poverty
3.Poor national development
4.National crises

In conclusion,I want to tell everyone that most of the leaders in Nigeria are corrupt even our PRESIDENT Muhammadu Buhari, who is trying to fight corruption... Can you fight something you know nothing of? NO!!!, in fact, you have to become that thing in order to fight it perfectly and in the process of becoming that thing, it might eat you up. On the whole, corruption has pitched it's tent in NIGERIA and the LEADERS are to be apportioned more blame and not the FOLLOWERS.

THANK YOU




REFERENCES
www.Wikipedia › wiki › Corruption_in_Nigeria

www.BBC.com › news › world-africa-34580862

www.bribenigeria.com › bribe_question

https://www.naij.com/402850-top-12-corruption-cases.html
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Tourshaw: 8:29pm On Dec 27, 2015
obiZEAL:

Fynestboi, u should take this seriously...I can't believe that that guy was not disqualified after the copy and paste...I'm really doubting the dedication of the judges...
Kudos to u and the other coordinators!


Thanks jare boss for reasoning along with me. If this is not corrected, believe me many will feel disappointed and disregard this competition in subsequent times. I just hope something will be done very fast

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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by noskyboy(m): 8:29pm On Dec 27, 2015
i think the judges (1 and 3) should please carefully read the essays again, pay attention to important details and give proper scores. and i think Dongraspo's essay can be liken to a lazy blogger who just copy and past, and funny enough the judges 1 and 3 gave him unbelievable high scores. we should discourage copy and paste and reward hard work and creativity.
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:30pm On Dec 27, 2015
Judge two score was OK..
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:34pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:
Judge 2



MustyBura

1)Pers. - 3
2) Logic of arg. - 3
3) Strength of facts - 4
4) Persuasiveness- 4
5) Demo of Know - 4

Total - 18/25

Tourshaw

1) P- 4
2) L.o.a - 4
3) S.o.F - 4
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.K - 4

Total - 20/25

Dugraspo
1) P. -       2
2) L.o.A -  2
3) S.o.f -   4
4) Pers -   2
5) D.o.k -  3

Total - 13/25

Geestary

1) P. - 4
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 3
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 3

Total - 18/25

Thollulope

1) P. - 4
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 4
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 5

Total - 21/25

Olalerey

1) P. - 2
2) L.o.A - 4
3) S.o.f - 5
4) Pers - 4
5) D.o.k - 4

 Total - 19/25




Noskyboy

1) P. -   3
2) L.o.A -  4
3) S.o.f -  4
4) Pers -  3
5) D.o.k -  4

 Total - 18/25

Obizeal

1) P.- 4
2) L.o.A - 3
3) S.o.f - 4
4) Pers - 3
5) D.o.k - 4

Total - 18/25



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UNILORIN : 38
UNIJOS : 36
UNIBADAN : 40
UNIUYO : 31[/size]





This score is appealing going by the verifiable evidence of Dongraspo lifting....



I will wait for the judges to comment if none then I will be using the above...



KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Tourshaw: 8:35pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:
KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks





Comments please...



And even his word count is 2398 which has exceeded the required maximum of 1200. I am raising all these not because I am too captious or meticulous but just to make sure that, it is the best team that wins it deservedly.

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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:41pm On Dec 27, 2015
Tourshaw:




And even his word count is 2398 which has exceeded the required maximum of 1200. I am raising all these not because I am too captious or meticulous but just to make sure that, it is the best team that wins it deservedly.



Am happy you pointed it out....

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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Nobody: 8:45pm On Dec 27, 2015
I will respond soon fynestboi. Please give me a few minutes
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by obiZEAL(m): 8:49pm On Dec 27, 2015
Tourshaw:




And even his word count is 2398 which has exceeded the required maximum of 1200. I am raising all these not because I am too captious or meticulous but just to make sure that, it is the best team that wins it deservedly.
mehn another lapse...Fynestboi where did u say u got this judges from ...please don't let them soil the reputation of NISD and waste ur hard work...
Tourshaw nice one

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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:57pm On Dec 27, 2015
obiZEAL:

mehn another lapse...Fynestboi where did u say u got this judges from ...please don't let them soil the reputation of NISD and waste ur hard work...
Tourshaw nice one




Sigh...
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Nobody: 8:57pm On Dec 27, 2015
Tourshaw:

And even his word count is 2398 which has exceeded the required maximum of 1200. I am raising all these not because I am too captious or meticulous but just to make sure that, it is the best team that wins it deservedly.


Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 8:58pm On Dec 27, 2015
adeaks:
I will respond soon fynestboi. Please give me a few minutes



OK sir...
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 9:02pm On Dec 27, 2015
Neyoor:



Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable



Pulling out? Are you new in this?



If this is how others that pointed out one error or two had been pulling out, will there be third edition?


This debate is getting stronger day by day, and it is impossible for we not to have challenges. Suggesting such to your team mate speaks volume of how you treat issues... Smh..
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Aminat508(f): 9:04pm On Dec 27, 2015
Neyoor:



Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable
Why? shocked calm down please
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Fynestboi: 9:09pm On Dec 27, 2015
[size=15pt]If the two other judges refuses to show up or comment before 9:30pm. Their scores will be taken down...




KingTom
Sateje...
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Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Nobody: 9:11pm On Dec 27, 2015
Fynestboi:

Pulling out? Are you new in this?
If this is how others that pointed out one error or two had been pulling out, will there be third edition?


Ofcourse I'm not but this is a clear deficiency from the side of the judges.


Haba! I witnessed the last edition and I really salute the doggedness of the Judges that officiated the debates. They cited the errors and mistakes made by the debaters and they took their time to give veracious results.


This one that we are just seeing results without analysis and how the judges failed to notice the word count is what I still don't understand.
Re: NISDEBATE: Corruption in Nigeria who takes the blame: Leaders or the followers? by Nobody: 9:13pm On Dec 27, 2015
Hmm. UNIUYO played on the judges intelligence, I think the competition is still on and they should be penalized for it. I know ''mindless lifting'' as someone referred to it is against the debate rules. I enjoin u to device the best punishment for that debater. U're a fair moderator, thanks for ur effort.

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