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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by mrmetoo1: 11:15am On Dec 31, 2015
Farnsworth:


I disagree that Jonathan regime was the most corrupt, to me I followed the progress of the ministries very well, it was the most transparent government Nigeria has had, perhaps Jonathan was too trusting and naive but in all honesty he had a few good ideas but ultimately he was just incompetent and overwhelmed with the task. But the "corruption" is just propaganda, OBJ, IBB ABACHA, these were corrupt people but during Jonathan's regime you could get access to any financial information at all. The people under GEJ were likely the corrupt ones, as he delegates the jobs and money he never really, follows up. BTW, I think Nigeria deserves better presidents that all we have had so far, especially with so much intelligent Nigerians across the country.

My guy no need to sugar-coat anything, Jonathan's administration was by far the most corrupt. Those guys went through the highest oil boom and what do we have to show for it?? Please just mention one thing we have to show for it. No infrastructural developments, loans were not cleared, no buoyant reserves, nothing, soldiers being sent to war without weapons. So if they weren't that corrupt, where did all the money go?

IBB "legitimized" corruption but he built, there are things today we can point to say this is IBB's work. Two significant ones, the third mainland bridge and development of Abuja. OBJ, say what you will, he cleared our debt. That helped a lot so to be in good standing with creditors for future loans and business. What he did can't be understated. I don't even want to touch on Abacha, I didn't like that guy for nothing.

What is GEJ's one lasting legacy we can talk about??

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Meritocracy: 11:15am On Dec 31, 2015
mrborntodoit:


You already sold your useless conscience to the devil so you won't see reasons why Gej did everything possible including buying arms in cash to quench the Buharis Almajiri soldiers .

Passingshot, try get sense this 2016,his royal daftness ,Buhari doesn't need you anymore since he got to aso rock .
All because its government money and cashless policy is only for poor. Can you carry your personal hard earn money carellessly

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by abisola85: 11:16am On Dec 31, 2015
FFK must go to jail
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by babafirst(m): 11:17am On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.
My thoughts PassingShot,my exact tots.Infact some of the weapons they claimed to have bought with cash were Russian and Ukrainian weapons.If they had bought American weapons with cash from the backyard it would have been understandable.

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by YaksonFCA(m): 11:31am On Dec 31, 2015
FFK should say that at the nearest Beer Parlour. Next story pls.

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Farnsworth: 11:32am On Dec 31, 2015
mrmetoo1:


My guy no need to sugar-coat anything, Jonathan's administration was by far the most corrupt. Those guys went through the highest oil boom and what do we have to show for it?? Please just mention one thing we have to show for it. No infrastructural developments, loans were not cleared, no buoyant reserves, nothing, soldiers being sent to war without weapons. So if they weren't that corrupt, where did all the money go?

IBB "legitimized" corruption but he built, there are things today we can point to say this is IBB's work. Two significant ones, the third mainland bridge and development of Abuja. OBJ, say what you will, he cleared our debt. That helped a lot so to be in good standing with creditors for future loans and business. What he did can't be understated. I don't even want to touch on Abacha, I didn't like that guy for nothing.

What is GEJ's one lasting legacy we can talk about??

Ebola was one
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by FirstCounsel(m): 11:33am On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.
your head dey there! U echoed my thots exactly.

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by banio: 11:35am On Dec 31, 2015
International diplomacy is not ABC. Its very difficult because U have to think far and wide. Why does Russia keep supporting Syria in military hardwares? These are questions we shud ask ourselves b4 shouting that we should have bought weapons from Russia, Ukraine etc. These con3s won't just sell weapons to U without diplomatic agreements. And these weapons are not readily available, they have to produce them when the need arises. Also will you by cot America and her allies that sustains your economy. They buy our oil, we buy their weapons and technical expertise. So we should only wish to be privilege to have first hand in4mation b4 we crucify our leaders
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by mrmetoo1: 11:37am On Dec 31, 2015
Farnsworth:


Ebola was one

I'm sorry are we joking here? Cos if it is a joke, it's kinda funny. GEJ can't even take credit for Ebola. If we have to give anyone credit, it's the LASG. LASG are the ones that tracked those affected, they're the ones that created the temporary treatment centers in Yaba. Even the money from the FG came in weeks late. Do you know the damage an infectious disease like Ebola could have done if they had to wait for funds from the FG?? Let's just thank God, that disease landed in a state like Lagos with an effective governor

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by MRSALT: 11:41am On Dec 31, 2015
[quote author=mbulela post=41510817]
Silly lie.
I dare you to provide a proof of the above. America does not have monopoly of the arms trade. Infact a NO from America is an automatic YES from some legitimate arms

What you ask your self before buying arms is what type of ammunitions and the countries that produce the best? Where are you likely to source for it? Do Russia , China or other countries have the exact equipment your soldiers are trained to handle? Russia or China may have the best military warfare but are they better in guerrilla warfare like the US who have over the years been fighting in the middle east. Am not exonerating GEJ in any wrong doing but let us not demonize all his deeds. It does not make us clever, intelligent or saints.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Farnsworth: 11:47am On Dec 31, 2015
mrmetoo1:


I'm sorry are we joking here? Cos if it is a joke, it's kinda funny. GEJ can't even take credit for Ebola. If we have to give anyone credit, it's the LASG. LASG are the ones that tracked those affected, they're the ones that created the temporary treatment centers in Yaba. Even the money from the FG came in weeks late. Do you know the damage an infectious disease like Ebola could have done if they had to wait from funds from the FG?? Let's just thank God, that disease landed in a state like Lagos with an effective governor

well, LASG it cooperate with FG, but FG took charge all the states in Nigeria had thermometer and trained personnels at entry points not just Lagos, FG released the funds necessary, collaborated with all the international agencies to ensure Nigerian personnels across the country were taking the right procedures to ensure it was curbed. I am not joking. but if you don't like that one, what about resurrecting the dysfunctional trains system?
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by NubianX: 11:49am On Dec 31, 2015
Had the money stolen by Jonathan and his cohorts been used properly; f*..fk would hv appropriately being in a rehab... cry cry cry
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Charly68: 11:51am On Dec 31, 2015
This excuse of this man is sickening to a discerning mind.. Very very elementary and highly nonsecutus
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by mrborntodoit: 11:52am On Dec 31, 2015
Meritocracy:
All because its government money and cashless policy is only for poor. Can you carry your personal hard earn money carellessly

If your children are dying,leave them to die because you have to protect your money first,ok ?
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by spinoff: 11:57am On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by alex1612: 11:57am On Dec 31, 2015
FFK KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO END HIM, BECAUSE HE IS PART OF THE CORRUPT. LET HIM CONTINUE, LATER WE SHALL ALL UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS MAKING A NOISE, WHEN THEY OPEN THE BOOK OF CORRUPT AND THEY GET TO HIS OWN CHAPTER OR PAGE OR PARAGRAPH, JUST WATCH.

emamos:

lalasticlala
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/us-embargo-forced-jonathan-to-buy-arms-with-raw-cash-fani-kayode/.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by jayloms: 12:40pm On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to selcash.

in short, one carton of orijin for you, your head dey dia. cool

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by neocortex: 12:42pm On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.

How many weapons have your god Buhari bought from Russia(or from anywhere else) since he assumed office ?

you need not sacrifice your reasoning for cheap political point and it is better not to comment on issues you are
grossly ignorant of.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by WaffenSS(m): 12:59pm On Dec 31, 2015
MRSALT:


There is nothing difficult to understand here. No country was ready to do business with Nigeria. The only option the administration had was to buy from black market which transactions are done in cash in order to cover their track to avoid sanctions from the US. It is unfortunate that the black market purchases encourage looting anyway

This is plain rubbish. Most nations do not buy arms from the US or its NATO allies.

Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and so many others buy legitimately from Ukraine, China, Russia etc.

The Leahy Act prevents sales by the US alone, not by third parties.

GEJ hid under the supposed embargo to embezzle and launder raw cash.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by MRSALT: 1:15pm On Dec 31, 2015
WaffenSS:


This is plain rubbish. Most nations do not buy arms from the US or its NATO allies.

Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and so many others buy legitimately from Ukraine, China, Russia etc.

The Leahy Act prevents sales by the US alone, not by third parties.

GEJ hid under the supposed embargo to embezzle and launder raw cash.

You people are so fast to claim MR Knowall. Have you ever asked yourself if those countries you mentioned have the particular arms needed to tackle insurgency and again how do you know that other countries do not buy some of their arms in the blackmarket? You can only say what you know. GEJ took the right decision but Nigeria factor could not allow them to honestly implement them
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by mrmetoo1: 1:16pm On Dec 31, 2015
Farnsworth:


well, LASG it cooperate with FG, but FG took charge all the states in Nigeria had thermometer and trained personnels at entry points not just Lagos, FG released the funds necessary, collaborated with all the international agencies to ensure Nigerian personnels across the country were taking the right procedures to ensure it was curbed. I am not joking. but if you don't like that one, what about resurrecting the dysfunctional trains system?

When I said one lasting, I'm not talking about something started or halfway done. The train system as you call it is still very dysfunctional. How many people personally did you know traveled with train in this high travel season?
As far as all those trying to prevent the disease from getting in, the fact is it got in. Those that stopped the spread and quickly acted to gather those that might have had contact are the ones I give credit to.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by mrmetoo1: 1:24pm On Dec 31, 2015
MRSALT:


You people are so fast to claim MR Knowall. Have you ever asked yourself if those countries you mentioned have the particular arms needed to tackle insurgency and again how do you know that other countries do not buy some of their arms in the blackmarket? You can only say what you know. GEJ took the right decision but Nigeria factor could not allow them to honestly implement them

Of course they have the weapons to fight insurgency. It's not like Boko Haram are the most sophisticated militants in the world. They started out as a rag tag army that grew into a monster because of our inability to crush them. Adequately equipping our military from the jump would have caused huge damage to them. They were winning for a while, so funding increased, their hiring power increased, logistics and intelligence improved with time. Morale among the terrorists increased with all the abductions and "tactical retreats".
Weapons from any of those countries will have been more than enough to deal with them, it's not like they produce plastic water pistols
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by WaffenSS(m): 1:29pm On Dec 31, 2015
MRSALT:


You people are so fast to claim MR Knowall. Have you ever asked yourself if those countries you mentioned have the particular arms needed to tackle insurgency and again how do you know that other countries do not buy some of their arms in the blackmarket? You can only say what you know. GEJ took the right decision but Nigeria factor could not allow them to honestly implement them

The insurgency began in 2009. What was he doing about weapons all the way until 2015?

So if arms are hard to come by, GEJ is justified eating away over $2 billion of arms procurement funds?

Please find a better argument.

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Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by allthingsgood: 2:03pm On Dec 31, 2015
Chukabiz1961:
Did they force you to waste your time to watch it?

Neither did I force you to read my comment or quote me
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Forwetinnah: 2:29pm On Dec 31, 2015
Demmocrats:
If the money embezzled during GEJ was used judiciously we won't be in the mess we are in right now.

Keep blaming. ..embezzlement is going on massively right under President "which kain thing be that?" Be ready to blame GEJ
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Forwetinnah: 2:36pm On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:
See a compound fool thinking he's making any sense.

How does US embargo to sell arms to Nigeria translate to buying arms with cash from other countries?


What a laugh? You were obviously living under a Rock when SA seized the money meant for Arms purchase? Since Booooohari aka "which kain thing be that?" claims arms were not bought but funds embezzled under GEJ, what is he now fighting BH with?! Kunu and Tuwo Masara? And you're even calling Fani names..chai!! Aisha Aso Rock Amala is powerful enough to wipe memories completely
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Forwetinnah: 2:39pm On Dec 31, 2015
PassingShot:

There was no sanctions not to buy from Russia, Turkey or Ukraine and many other countries. Only US was relunctant or refused to sell us arms.

No justification for buying with cash.

Yes they did. .that's what the ungrateful administration under Frezident "which kain thing be that"is using now
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by PastorOla1: 2:48pm On Dec 31, 2015
FFK should keep his mouth shot, he is not part of the main men in GEJ'S government. He should stop forming big boy when he does not know what truly happened in GEJ'S time. He was a late comer forming level Jo. NOISE MAKER LASAN, LASAN,!!
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by elhafeez(m): 3:18pm On Dec 31, 2015
FFK is a big fool people like him were the reason why Jonathan lost the election. if the US put an embargo on Nigeria. why not go to Russia. Am sure they would be happy to sell. carrying millions of dollars in to south Africa without the knowledge of the SA government is criminal. FFK should keep quite. he is so irrelevant he should get a job.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by Gee15: 3:40pm On Dec 31, 2015
Who is asking FFK this questions am not sure he is not evil himself ,Nigerians are not ready to listen to your lies just go and sleep ,Nigeria will be better without him.
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by lobatannation: 4:36pm On Dec 31, 2015
MRSALT:


There is nothing difficult to understand here. No country was ready to do business with Nigeria. The only option the administration had was to buy from black market which transactions are done in cash in order to cover their track to avoid sanctions from the US. It is unfortunate that the black market purchases encourage looting anyway
.

D question is was d arms purchased?
Re: US Embargo Forced Jonathan To Buy Arms With Raw Cash –fani-kayode by lookingfly: 4:40pm On Dec 31, 2015
Guys are just here disturbing and making noise but oga jona de under Ac de sip him origin n roots watching you guys in 3D with peace of mind.

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