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Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by mandax: 1:59pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
People, what's the big deal if President Buhari implements the recommendations of the last CONFAB as a way to try to pull the rug off the feet of Nnamdi Kanu? Only Real Politics and Diplomacy were successful in other countries where issues like secessionist groups or dissenters appeared and were resolved for the good of the country. Not courts or imprisonment or shooting of protesters. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by mandax: 2:22pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
Timbuktou: So you first arrest somebody, frame charges against the person, try the person. Th court discharges and acquitted the person UNCONDITIONALLY, You refuse to free the person, ignore the courts' unconditional release order, prepare other charges agsinst the person, this time terrorism charges. Even a child in the kindergarten must tell you that you are not after crime fighting and prevention, but you are playing politics with the judicial system. Reasonable people keep off this court matter knowing that it's politics at play. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by nike4love: 3:22pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
MhizterWalker:Why are U wasting ur time talking to ppl that has sacrificed there brain to lie mohammed and apc ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by PrinceEvolution(m): 3:36pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
well bro..we will all get there but we must sacrifice all of these..pride,tribalism,self centeredness,greed..love for the altar of immediate ..we shud bury this recipes of distruction first then we can analyze our lives further..until then this discussions is just to pass time and as u see u are already entertaining ursef and nairalanders..forgetting that as of now we are all guilty as charged.. TonyeBarcanista: 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by kayfra: 3:53pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
mandax: Kanu is not important enough. How many people are registered with IPOB? What's their support base? None essential youths. We all want the confab to be implemented, so rather than focus on a non entity like Kanu. It should be turned to a bigger conversation like more regional control. Something SW, SS and SE wants. You simply trivialize the conversation by inserting Kanu. Fact. 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by olajide8(m): 4:35pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
drss:If a criminal is caught and a judge is to deliver judgment on him for - say' stealing- these are the list charges they would use to sentence him- 1. The intent - 2. The plan to - 3. The actual event- 3 Likes |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by captain247: 4:56pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: HIQ blood sucking baboon of the innocent You guys have kanu go ahead and drink is blood the world is watching. One section of the constitution justify you same as another section of the constitution justify kanu. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Timbuktuo: 5:02pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
captain247: Mumu, no right is absolute. Another display of your faulty education. Where your right ends is where someone else's starts. You are free to express yourself but you cannot be a nuisance and be disturbing the peace of a community. If Kanu is free to pursue freedom, he is not free to conspire to levy war. The moment he does that, he has automatically relinquished his right to freedom, which is why he's languishing with the beans servers right now. Ndo o. 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by captain247: 5:08pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
Timbuktuo: Vampire will still not be satisfied even after being baptized in blood. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Timbuktuo: 5:08pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
mandax: You sound like an illiterate. Kanu being being being being freed unconditionally means without recourse to any bail requirements on the first particular set of charges levied against him. However, no court has said he should be released after these new charges have been brought. If you think he is being unlawfully held, progode proof of the judge and court pronouncement being flouted. 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Timbuktuo: 5:10pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
captain247: Argue with sense. Provide proof of the pronouncements being flouted or shut up. We're not talking about MaryKay here. 2 Likes |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by 989900: 6:15pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
olukenzo: Who else watched this video? I'd break it down: In Los Angeles, Kanu was very direct about his mission. “I have not come across a number of you. I like that you are looking very well in America. But there is one thing you must do. You must come out to support what we are doing. We need guns and we need bullets. I know that we love life so much…” he said before delving into Igbo. After a while, he continued to speak in English: “To kill somebody is very difficult for us. So to be very clear, we need guns and we need bullets and ammunitions. They have succeeded in planting (Governor Rochas) Okorocha in Imo State. One big massive problem we have; the same thing they did in Akwa Ibom but if they succeed in triangulating… because everything in life is a triangle – if they get Owerri, if they take Uyo, if they take Port-Harcourt, we are finished as a people; completely gone as a race. You will come back home (Nigeria) and you will not know the way to your father’s compound; because they are coming. Boko Haram is everywhere in Biafra land. They will overrun us in a matter of minutes and the world will not talk about it because mankind is afraid of Biafra…” On and on, Kanu went; but after his fiery speech, it was time for questions and the first was from a lady who appeared somewhat bemused. She prefaced her question with a comment, which suggested she couldn’t understand where Kanu was coming from, before asking: “What exactly is the objective of your movement?” Obviously prepared to deliver his message regardless of the questions being posed, Kanu responded: “On Sunday the 30th of August our people came out to preach to others on the need for us to get Biafra. And on the orders of (President Muhammadu) Buhari they were shot dead. And we know that Peter Obi in 2005 and 2006 ordered the army to do the same thing. Because they felt that you can kill them – Igbo people don’t care about themselves. That is a matter of fact. They don’t care about each other. We may gather once in a while to party and eat, but when our people are killed, nobody cares about them. From that, we now know that the best way to defend ourselves is to be armed…” After describing Nigeria as a zoo, Kanu went back to his message. “I don’t come from Nigeria, I come from Biafra. So we need guns and we need bullets and those of you in America will give it to us. And also, on the 29th of this month, something will happen; it is called the Blood Monday. Most of you don’t know that in 1967, before the war started, there was a Blood Monday as well, are you aware of that? It comes in a while. There was Blood Monday in 1967; there will be Blood Monday this year, because after that we will be free. No matter what happens, because if we don’t get Biafra everybody have (sic) to die. I am not joking. I came from back home for this convention. I don’t stay in London anymore. I stay in Biafra land. I don’t want people to underestimate what we are fighting and the type of adversaries we are facing. They are still killing us. They are deporting us from Lagos, burning our shops all over the place, our people being rendered useless and homeless – no appointment from Buhari yet the oil and gas companies come to our land…” Another participant, this time a man, who apparently was not carried away by all the preachments on Biafra asked: “Have you ever thought about the effects of the war you are trying to fight?” Evidently unhappy by such an “unpatriotic” question, Kanu replied: “As long as you are a Biafran you have my love and respect, I will honour you any time and any day. If you stand before me and say you are a Nigerian, I will never respect you. It means you are not sensible. It’s as simple as that. As for me, death is better than humiliation.” Another male participant decided to be more practical: “If I get to Nigeria, having identified with Biafra and I get arrested, what modalities have you put in place to save my life? What kind of security do you have on ground? When people are fighting in wars, they have international backings, what kind of international backings do you have as a person and a Biafran to achieve this goal?” Obviously a fantasist (and perhaps also a fatalist), Kanu replied: “On your very first question on if you go home to agitate, what I can say to you is that, you can never ever be arrested. Never! Because what we are fighting for is a universally recognised way of setting people free. I am sure that some of you here are very conversant with the declaration on the right of the people, is that correct? That allows us to go and fight for Biafra; that is exactly what we are doing, of which the zoo called Nigeria is a signatory to it. Secondly, in terms of the war and who is supporting us, it doesn’t matter if you give us a gun or not, we are going to fight anyway, so it is either you live as a slave or you fight to be free. The choice is yours. We have chosen to fight to be free than to be slaves”. ---ThisDay. However at about the 12th minute, one elderly Ibo man the most sens of all, he said there about 7 core Ibo states, and they collect allocations from the FG, what do they do with it? He went to empahasize that before we (Ibos) attack the FG, have we (Ibos) attacked/criticized ourselves, our own governors, leaders, and e.t.c.? He went to add that, after freedom from Nigeria, what next? He concluded by affirming that, before we fight the hausas, let us first sincerely fight ourselves. #word P.S. This is my first Kanu video, and the dude does not even come across as half-intelligent -- duh delusion! He begs to be treated as a foreigner -- treat him as one! He says he is ready to die, why is he seeking bail? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Reptyle(m): 8:51pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
captain247: The Igbos are by no means a minority. They are one of the 3 major ethnic groups in Nigeria. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by hansad: 10:46pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
obailala: Listen to the video from where you count terrorism charges against Kanu. In that video, a woman asked Kanu what he needed the arms and bullets he solicited for. Kanu's Response: He sated clearly that the arms and bullets he was soliciting for were for the defence of their members being killed by Nigeria's soldiers. He added that Buhari ordered the shooting of MASSOB members. He even went further to cite the MASSOB members killed by Nigeria's soldiers while the Anambra state governor kept mute. Did he mention anywhere that he was asking for arms to declare war against Nigeria? No!! Evil people like you whose brains have been damaged by the smell of crude oil in the Nigerdelta can never comprehend issues before they jump to a conclusion. Evil people like you wouldn't care a hoot if govt soldiers killed unarmed people asking to have a new country from Nigeria - a request that is legitimate. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by BiafranAvatar(m): 11:40pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
Ioannes: I don't have you time but like one of your question says "Komai Nisan jifa-Kasa zai fado/dawo" So keep rolling |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by omonnakoda: 11:50pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
It is the job of the courts to determine whether he committed any offence. Not any one else. The courts have the power to grant bail and so the specious argument put forward will persuade only those with derelict cognitive infrastructure. The issue is not even about law but the constitution 35. (1) Every person shall be entitled to his personal liberty and no person shall be deprived of such liberty save in the following cases and in accordance with a procedure permitted by law - (a) in execution of the sentence or order of a court in respect of a criminal offence of which he has been found guilty; (b) by reason of his failure to comply with the order of a court or in order to secure the fulfilment of any obligation imposed upon him by law; (c) for the purpose of bringing him before a court in execution of the order of a court or upon reasonable suspicion of his having committed a criminal offence, or to such extent as may be reasonably necessary to prevent his committing a criminal offence; (d) in the case of a person who has not attained the age of eighteen years for the purpose of his education or welfare; (e) in the case of persons suffering from infectious or contagious disease, persons of unsound mind, persons addicted to drugs or alcohol or vagrants, for the purpose of their care or treatment or the protection of the community; or (f) for the purpose of preventing the unlawful entry of any person into Nigeria or of effecting the expulsion, extradition or other lawful removal from Nigeria of any person or the taking of proceedings relating thereto: Provided that a person who is charged with an offence and who has been detained in lawful custody awaiting trial shall not continue to be kept in such detention for a period longer than the maximum period of imprisonment prescribed for the offence. (2) Any person who is arrested or detained shall have the right to remain silent or avoid answering any question until after consultation with a legal practitioner or any other person of his own choice. (3) Any person who is arrested or detained shall be informed in writing within twenty-four hours (and in a language that he understands) of the facts and grounds for his arrest or detention. (4) Any person who is arrested or detained in accordance with subsection (1) (c) of this section shall be brought before a court of law within a reasonable time, and if he is not tried within a period of - (a) two months from the date of his arrest or detention in the case of a person who is in custody or is not entitled to bail; or (b) three months from the date of his arrest or detention in the case of a person who has been released on bail, he shall (without prejudice to any further proceedings that may be brought against him) be released either unconditionally or upon such conditions as are reasonably necessary to ensure that he appears for trial at a later date. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by obailala(m): 11:57pm On Jan 01, 2016 |
hansad:My comment was only trying to point out why I think the FG had not broken any court order by 'RE-ARRESTING' kanu and Dasuki. However regarding your comment, I am an Igbo man myself and I do not want to go to any confused new nation which is being brewed by emotionally unstable youths who are angry over election results, hence my very sharp opposition to this Nnamdi Kanu and his madness. A nation cannot be built based on such impulses, only a chaotic contraption can be gotten out of such emotions. As for your defence of Kanu based on the video evidence, there are countless incriminating videos in circulation besides the one you referred to however I think that matter should bedecided by the courts. 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by mandax: 2:11am On Jan 02, 2016 |
obailala: Protest for Biafra restarted during Obasanjo civilian administration, around the time twelve northern Nigeria states adopted the use of Sharia criminal justice system. You don't kniow anything that pushes people for Biafra now. You are like Barca. You either think it's because Ijaw man lost election or that Nyamiri want colonize SS - na lies. You are not Igbo, if by any chance you are, you are efulefu. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by obailala(m): 2:27am On Jan 02, 2016 |
mandax:Thanks, I am an efulefu; i have heard that a million times and I now believe it. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by chrisblack: 2:52am On Jan 02, 2016 |
drss:you are a big olodo. the daura man is even more learned than you. the simple writeup by barca explains the simple facts. anyway due to your deluded and propaganda oriented mind you will not want to accept the fact.the questioned needed to be asked is what Mr president ask who is marginalizing you igbos? 1 Like |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Nobody: 2:59am On Jan 02, 2016 |
TonyeBarcanista: Very dull analysis. Did the DSS contravene any law or disobeyed the court by re-arresting Sambo Dasuki? I don't think so. The Court judgement of December 21 granted Sambo Dasuki and others bail in a N9billion fraud case. Though Dasuki and others were released from prison after meeting bail condition, he was re-arrested after stepping out of prison. You cannot arrest someone at will. An arrest warrant is generated by the arresting body and must be served to a court and approved by a judge. How DSS got that immediately after getting bail is what we all want to know. But why is he even looking for bail when he should be more concerned with clearing his name as regards the $2.2billion arms fund that he allegedly looted with his friends? Is it easier to clear your name from your house or from inside cell? Has he been convicted of looting anything? Is it not beer parlor gist we have been using in Nigeria? |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by zendy: 3:32am On Jan 02, 2016 |
discusant: I couldn't have said it any better. Most Nigerians don't know that that they have no country or constitution |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by zendy: 3:37am On Jan 02, 2016 |
bluecircle470: Is that for the law courts or for you, Buhari and I to decide? |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by nduchucks: 3:40am On Jan 02, 2016 |
og2711: This must be the joke of the year! ![]() Under the law, a person can be arrested with or without a warrant of arrest. There are specific procedures laid out in our Criminal Procedures Acts for this. Please stop being lazy and do a bit of reading before coming here to spew rubbish. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by zendy: 3:51am On Jan 02, 2016 |
joromi: I have seen this video many times same way I heard Kanu talk about radically getting Biafra through force of arms. The man never hid his choice of armed confrontation with Nigeria to achieve Biafra same way he never hid that he would be coming back to Nigeria. The main issue is, has he actually committed a crime? He called Nigeria a zoo, insulted Buhari, called for the killing of of non Biafrans, solicited for arms in this video, called for the destruction of Nigeria........ But the question remains "has he committed a crime?' If you think he has commited a crime then all of you better start reporting your selves to the nearest police station because if "talking" is a crime, we should all be in DSS custody. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by segalex: 6:07am On Jan 02, 2016 |
God bless you for this |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by PassingShot(m): 6:24am On Jan 02, 2016 |
og2711:DSS and EFCC are not your regular police who need an arrest warrant to pick you up. Go find out before you come here to display your ignorance. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by 989900: 6:29am On Jan 02, 2016 |
hansad: Most of you don’t know that in 1967, before the war started, there was a Blood Monday as well, are you aware of that? It comes in a while. There was Blood Monday in 1967; there will be Blood Monday this year, because after that we will be free. No matter what happens, because if we don’t get Biafra everybody have (sic) to die. I am not joking. --Kanu. P.S. Kanu is a reflection of a wider group of unintelligent, misguided, and delusional group of youths; who are none-the-wiser. The smart Ibo people can see through his emptiness and 'con', watch the video and listen to intelligent questions and comments they passed, only to be deflected, or apologetically answered by Kanu. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by 989900: 6:39am On Jan 02, 2016 |
zendy: How many countries have you/we visited soliciting for funds to start an uprising/secession? How much funds have you/we received? How many arms/ammunition have been found in your/our possession? How many MTN masts have you/we violated? How many NBC laws have you/we flouted -- repeatedly? Lastly, that you utter trash and get away with it sometimes, does not mean you will always get away with it. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by Nobody: 7:58am On Jan 02, 2016 |
obailala: U are on point. |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by chrisblack: 9:07am On Jan 02, 2016 |
mandax:guy politics and iron hand. Whilst the state should be ready for open and constructive diplomacy.it should also allow trouble makers who are bent on destroying its peace a little taste of its power and might.carrot and stick. Other nnamdi wannabes will think twice |
Re: Continuous Detention Of Nnamdi Kanu And Dasuki: Did FG Flout Any Law? by faraday77(m): 9:36am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Leave d biafrans as d continued detention of kanu is hitting them big time. A time will come in the nearest future when they will appreciate the president stand on kanu. I can't imagine a 48 year old man making an unguarded statement and having an unregistered broadcasting station within a state, clamouring for war, showing utter disregard to constituted authority, making a marching order for secessionist movement not to be charge for treason. What then should be his charge? |
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