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Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Nobody: 11:17am On Jan 04, 2016
Who cares what the NBA, SANs say about Buhari's decision on Dasuki and Kanu! These benchers will always set the guy with the most billions free.

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Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by teslimtitilope: 11:29am On Jan 04, 2016
You can stay in the south west or eastern states and run your damn mouth against Buhari Government since your families are not in the North East. 2.1 billion in Dollars. Anybody that says that bastard should not rot in detention will suffer what is going in the North East right now. To hell with the JUDICIARY and those rogues that call themselves SANS. Is it not the same Judiciary that cannot prosecute those behind Bola Ige's assassination and will send someone that steal recharge card or crate of soft drink to 2years imprisonment.
Millions of lives gone in the North East, Soldiers jailed for mutiny... and some Nigerians can speak like fools against a man Who is ready to kill them all.

I didn't vote BUHARI to be democratic anyway, I voted him to clean off thieves and their cohorts with any method that suits his peculiar temperament. Many great countries of the world do not practice DEMO-CRAZY. If it won't work in Nigeria, then to hell with KABALOCRACY.

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Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by 989900: 11:30am On Jan 04, 2016
koboko69:
This our bribe taking lawyers are the problem of this country. Always having conflictiing opinions. Ask a other lawyer tmr...he will have a different view.

My favourite channels are CI and ID. This tactics are even used in developed countries. Someone is suspected for murder....but u don't have enough evidence to hold him for murder....but you can clearly hold him.for illegal arms possession. What u see is they arrest him for illegal arm possession to keep in custody why they keep working on the murder case so he doesn't escape out of town. If he is released on bail or parole...they have him rearrested for murder this time if they have gathered enough evidence.

As long as no bail have been granted for the fresh charges....
There is no case here. Except someone can point out where it is written in the Constitution that u cant rearrest someone on bail for another offence!

Buhari on point!!!!

I tire o!

All of them just trying different PIN codes on DTM . . . lol. #bas.tar.ds
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by 989900: 11:31am On Jan 04, 2016
teslimtitilope:
You can stay in the south west or eastern states and run your damn mouth against Buhari Government since your families are not in the North East. 2.1 billion in Dollars. Anybody that says that bastard should not rot in detention will suffer what is going in the North East right now. To hell with the JUDICIARY and those rogues that call themselves SANS. Is it not the same Judiciary that cannot prosecute those behind Bola Ige's assassination and will send someone that steal recharge card or crate of soft drink to 2years imprisonment.
Millions of lives gone in the North East, Soldiers jailed for mutiny... and some Nigerians can speak like fools against a man Who is ready to kill them all.

I didn't vote BUHARI to be democratic anyway, I voted him to clean off thieves and their cohorts with any method that suits his peculiar temperament. Many great countries of the world do not practice DEMO-CRAZY. If it won't work in Nigeria, then to hell with KABALOCRACY.
#wordwordword
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by manutdadex(m): 11:32am On Jan 04, 2016
joseph1832:
Oh really? And how is Buhari part of it? Did he loot money meant for northerners? Kindly explain please. Thank you.
well get a pen and note....buhari once ruled dis country and infact we ve had more norrherners as president than any zone.....in terms of education d north has been backward.what did buhari do as an head of state or as an individual.....ntin....guy dey farm house dey play with cow....and has he ever for once spoken against his normadic family escalades?
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by derolemode(m): 11:33am On Jan 04, 2016
koboko69:
This our bribe taking lawyers are the problem of this country. Always having conflictiing opinions. Ask a other lawyer tmr...he will have a different view.

My favourite channels are CI and ID. This tactics are even used in developed countries. Someone is suspected for murder....but u don't have enough evidence to hold him for murder....but you can clearly hold him.for illegal arms possession. What u see is they arrest him for illegal arm possession to keep in custody why they keep working on the murder case so he doesn't escape out of town. If he is released on bail or parole...they have him rearrested for murder this time if they have gathered enough evidence.

As long as no bail have been granted for the fresh charges....
There is no case here. Except someone can point out where it is written in the Constitution that u cant rearrest someone on bail for another offence!

Buhari on point!!!!
None of those men were ever released I repeat EVER!
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by captain11: 11:34am On Jan 04, 2016
Ware are those (SAN) when those guys ware spending this money. We should tell our self the truth . those guys Bleep up. let's recover the loot first.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by northvietnam(m): 11:34am On Jan 04, 2016
bloodkiller:


grin

Buhari is a renowned bastard illiterate terrorist

Easy broooo......

he is still our President.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by joseph1832(m): 11:36am On Jan 04, 2016
manutdadex:
well get a pen and note....buhari once ruled dis country and infact we ve had more norrherners as president than any zone.....in terms of education d north has been backward.what did buhari do as an head of state or as an individual.....ntin....guy dey farm house dey play with cow....and has he ever for once spoken against his normadic family escalades?
You should direct this same question to president from the south also.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by nike4love: 11:37am On Jan 04, 2016
Buhari's. wailers every where.

Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Forwetinnah: 11:44am On Jan 04, 2016
joseph1832:
Like I said earlier, keep mute if you don't have anything meaningful to contribute.

Joseph the dreamer...the APC raised the bar so high for GEJ now they can't even keep up. Karma is 69 o
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Bevista: 11:47am On Jan 04, 2016
Kay17:
There is hardly a difference between cynically manipulating the law to a dark motive and acting outrightly to serve the same dark motive.

The Constitution is a mere book which records the attitude and spirit of the people. Arbitrary arrests are still against our values regardless of the legal gymnastics used
If I understand your point, you are saying that there is no fundamental difference between the methods of the US government and that of the Nigerian government. MORALLY, that might be true but LEGALLY, there is a world of difference. It won't make sense for us to go into all the nuances of Morality and Legality on this platform.

The Constitution is more than a mere book. It is to Law what the Bible/Quran is to Morals. It maintains order in the society else if everyone has his opinion on issues, there will be total chaos.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Forwetinnah: 11:48am On Jan 04, 2016
teslimtitilope:
You can stay in the south west or eastern states and run your damn mouth against Buhari Government since your families are not in the North East. 2.1 billion in Dollars. Anybody that says that bastard should not rot in detention will suffer what is going in the North East right now. To hell with the JUDICIARY and those rogues that call themselves SANS. Is it not the same Judiciary that cannot prosecute those behind Bola Ige's assassination and will send someone that steal recharge card or crate of soft drink to 2years imprisonment.
Millions of lives gone in the North East, Soldiers jailed for mutiny... and some Nigerians can speak like fools against a man Who is ready to kill them all.

I didn't vote BUHARI to be democratic anyway, I voted him to clean off thieves and their cohorts with any method that suits his peculiar temperament. Many great countries of the world do not practice DEMO-CRAZY. If it won't work in Nigeria, then to hell with KABALOCRACY.

..are the people around Booooohari or his administration any better? A bigger thief surrounded by unrepentant thieves persecuting lesser thieves. Have you seen the 419 budget of Saints for 2016?
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by captain11: 12:03pm On Jan 04, 2016
The (Sans) should go and realism those poor innocent soul that await triers for the past years. Sans should also respect the law of land too.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by babadem2much(m): 12:11pm On Jan 04, 2016
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bloodkiller:


Buhari is a useless illiterate terrorist Daura dullard

Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by babadem2much(m): 12:16pm On Jan 04, 2016
bloodkiller:
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shatap do you know more than those SANs

Illiterates thinks they gat opinion tongue
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I go slap you now, e pain you why u no go join am for Kuje prison ?

oya give am five
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Born2bgreat(m): 12:35pm On Jan 04, 2016
I remember one of President Obama's key promise during his first term campaign;
"I will shut down Guatanamo Bay prisons. It is hypocritical of America to be preaching democracy and rule of law to the world yet own a facility where suspects are kept without trial for many years. The shutting down of that illegal detention centre would be one of my first executive order once I am sworn in as the President of the United States. " (Paraphrased)
As I write this, Obama is nearing the end of his second term in office and Guatanamo prison is still standing and the US are still detaining high risk suspects there, some for upward of 10 to 15 years without trial or prosecution in any law court anywhere in the world.
Obama came to office as a green horn in security matters. He did not know that security issues are not subject to campaign rhetoric. I remember John McCain, his Republican challenger, a war veteran and a Senator of over 30 years, who had chaired several Senate security committee in the US Senate telling Obama he does not know what he's talking about!
You will wonder why Obama kept silent on Guatanamo till now? Now, he knows better. That's why I laugh reading Facebook 'activist' and unrepentant Buhari bashers pontificating and sermonising over the rule of law after what President Buhari said about granting bail for individuals that has serious case against the state that pertains to security issues.
What folks don't understand is that the rule of law itself is subject to the rule and right of a nation when it pertains to the security and wellbeing of the people of a country against that of a few individuals. That's why, the USA that calls themselves the land of freedom and the bastion of democracy in the world do not care about the rule of law when it concerns the security of her people. That supercede any rule of law. Cry from today to eternity, you are just wasting your time and effort, America will ignore you and do what they have to do.
Check this; the US flouted every international law when the President of the US ordered special combat forces to go into the territory of another sovereign nation, Pakistan in order to get Osama bin Laden. Not only was Osama ordered to be killed extra judicially but his corpse was even buried at sea. When I read a book detailing the preparation for that mission by one of the members of that special force that entered into Pakistan under the cover of the night, you will realize that when it comes to the security and safety of the United States, they are ready to flout any law. Now, do you want to accuse Obama of illegality? Has Pakistan sued America at the World court? Also, please who amongst the vuvuzelas shouting themselves hoarse on Facebook will pick up the gauntlet and sue the President of the US for killing Osama bin Laden extra judicially? Ohhh don't they think Osama bin Laden has fundamental right to fair hearing? Yeye people!
One of the reasons I supported president Buhari came to fore during his media chat. I am an advocate of the rule of law and I believe in it but personally I believe we have to draw a line when the rule of law comes into conflict with security, safety and the well being of citizens of a given nation. You can't flagrantly abuse the security and well being of the people and come around to shout about rule of law when it's time to face the consequences of your action. Our judicial process must be overhauled to conform with the reality of the moment. America knows this better. For once, this country has a President that is ready to lead! It's not that PMB does not believe in the rule of law. After all, this is a man that was rigged out of election on about 3 occasions but followed the rule of law by going all up to the Supreme court to seek redress.
What the President is saying to whoever care to listen is that, when it comes to the safety, well being and progress of this nation no individual would use the rule of law to escape justice. That's why he said point blank concerning the Shi'ite issue that you can't have a state inside a state! It's either folks are ready to shape up or ship out! This country has been thrown to the dogs, it's high time we take it back and put it on the path of sanctity. Enough of lilly livered leadership, it's time to run this country according to dictates of the time we live in.
If you don't like it, sorry, we have a country to run and you will have to excuse us.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by DedeNkem: 12:37pm On Jan 04, 2016
Someone should make it very clear to Buhari that we're in a Democracy era. He was elected democratically into office.

Thus, he should keep his dictatorial tendencies in check. We're no more in corrupt military era, when they illegally ruled by Decree and became brutal dictators.

Anyone who commits any crime should be punished accordingly by lawful proceedures. You can't do that by violating the Rule of Law! You can't do that Buhari! Nobody is above the Law including you, Buhari!
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by preetyb(f): 12:42pm On Jan 04, 2016
[quote author=joseph1832 post=41638388]I want to believe you're aware that "ignorance is not an excuse?".

If GEJ had rejected the election result, even he knew what would happen to him, that's why he accepted defeat. Plain and simple.[/quote

what would ve happened to him?
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jan 04, 2016
bloodkiller:
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shatap and go and talk to those SANs since you know more than them

like i said illiterates gat no opinion
Buhari is a Hopeless illiterate terrorist with no moral value
If you had any moral value yourself you will not call your president names.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Amberon: 12:56pm On Jan 04, 2016
bless you. common sense is not common.
Sasuwa:



u rot in agony with ur hatred, someone vows to rurn nigerian like dubai, uk, singapore and their likes but you are agiants him, mind you what buhari is doing is for me and you. his kids are already living a 1st class lifestyle.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by phemray(m): 1:04pm On Jan 04, 2016
Bevista:
I firmly believe that the President goofed wrt his comments regarding flouting court orders. A simple explanation that they were held on other charges would have been a lot better than the president's explanation.
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For those hailing the president because of "the end justifies the means" mentality, there is a terrible danger of precedence. PMB's intentions might be genuine and patriotic, what if a dubious president comes in and uses this precedence to outrightly flout laws and the Constitution?
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For those comparing this with Guantanamo Bay, what you need to realize is that the American Presidency did not flout court orders or the Constitution, they simply acted smartly and figured a way to workaround the Constitution. They went to have a terrorist detention facility (gitmo bay) in Cuba where the human rights laws of US is not binding. The Nigerian govt needs to start thinking and acting intelligently rather than resort to brute force due to lazy thinking.
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I strongly believe that the presidency should do everything within its powers to jail NK, Dasuki, et al, but outrightly flouting court orders is - in my book - way out of line. It is important not to weaken democratic values in the process of doing the right thing.
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"Power corrupts! Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

Yes u are right! But what if d judge is also bias n corrupt? We just have to obey? No way. Once dasuki jump bail then what happen to d case cos u can never get him back. I think the judges need to learn more since this is d 1st time a serious govt is probing high profile cases without blinking eyes
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by tymgotel: 1:10pm On Jan 04, 2016
[quote author=bloodkiller post=41632612]By Innocent Anaba, Dapo Akinrefon &Ikechukwu Nnochiri
ABUJA— Nigerian Bar Association, NBA, and some leading lawyers in the country have disagreed with the Presidential Committee on anti-corruption led by Professor Itse Sagay over President Muhammadu Buhari’s insistence that the former National Security Adviser, NSA, Col. Sambo Dasuki, and the leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, Mr. Nnamdi Kanu who are facing separate criminal charges, would not be released from custody, despite valid court orders that granted them bail.
In his submission on the president’s stance, Professor Sagay argued that the Federal Government was not in violation of the rule of law as any bail granted an accused is completely related to the offence which he is charged before the court.
The NBA and some Senior Advocates of Nigeria, however, contended that the position the president took was offensive to the tenets of constitutional democracy, rule of law and presumption of innocence of an accused person. They argued that re-arresting someone immediately after the court has granted such person bail makes mockery of our democracy which is presumably anchored on the rule of law and separation of powers.”
Buhari had in his first presidential media chat at the Aso Rock Villa in Abuja, adduced reasons why the Federal Government would not readily allow both Dasuki and Kanu to regain their freedom from detention.

Buhari is a big fool. Na one chance nigeria youth enter so!! God help us. I realy need this biafra
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Chukzy44(m): 1:12pm On Jan 04, 2016
koboko69:
This our bribe taking lawyers are the problem of this country. Always having conflictiing opinions. Ask a other lawyer tmr...he will have a different view.

My favourite channels are CI and ID. This tactics are even used in developed countries. Someone is suspected for murder....but u don't have enough evidence to hold him for murder....but you can clearly hold him.for illegal arms possession. What u see is they arrest him for illegal arm possession to keep in custody why they keep working on the murder case so he doesn't escape out of town. If he is released on bail or parole...they have him rearrested for murder this time if they have gathered enough evidence.

As long as no bail have been granted for the fresh charges....
There is no case here. Except someone can point out where it is written in the Constitution that u cant rearrest someone on bail for another offence!

Buhari on point!!!!
ur head don baje be dat ooo talkin trash gerara here....
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by gare(f): 1:16pm On Jan 04, 2016
Sasuwa:



u rot in agony with ur hatred, someone vows to rurn nigerian like dubai, uk, singapore and their likes but you are agiants him, mind you what buhari is doing is for me and you. his kids are already living a 1st class lifestyle.

Stop saying what you don't know, how does he intend to turn Nigeria to Dubai, Singapore and UK,?
Show me your friends I will tell you who you are, his friends are corrupt that makes him a currupt person, by morning you will know how the day will look like, now is morning for PMB he still can't make the right economic policies to set us on the part of being a great nation, instead he is fighting a personal battle against Dasuki.

Not until we get the issues of power right we can't come out of the situation we find ourselves, we can't create jobs, we can't grow, he should as a matter of urgency set in motion the upgrading of mega watts, if we have to borrow to achieve that we better do so now, when we get our economy stable we can then pay back the loans, PMB has to start acting like a nationalist and leave all leave grudges he has on him. You don't bring the nation to a stand still saying you're fight corruption, there are other things to do, those that have his ears should talk to him
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Demdem(m): 1:24pm On Jan 04, 2016
fanysteve:
are u scared of nigeria breaking away because your northern land has no oil?

Actually am ain't scared at all. Besides am no abokiii so ur assumption is wrong.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Chukzy44(m): 1:28pm On Jan 04, 2016
[quote author=Demdem post=41633136]

U can say that again. any IPOB fool uncomfortable with it can go ffuck a dog. The Zoo has determined to give animal Kanu a zoo treatment. [/quotei stil believe dat somehow u are lost my frnd,we all knw dat isnt d bone in contention, as it stands,diz is a case of violation of law,digrace nd disregard 4 d rule of law,nd sef accclaimed autonomy ova law all in d name of being MR PRESIDENT..'TRIBUNAL HAS ORDERED BAIL'any immediate rearrest without showing even a day or 2 respect 4 court ruling is seen nd obviously wld be termed'slight to court order"
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Demdem(m): 1:37pm On Jan 04, 2016
[quote author=Chukzy44 post=41643704][/quote]

Ur posts suggests u lack the full info of what transpired. Inquire about the details and depend less on beer parlour gossips. No law has been breached here. The offence these criminals were arrested foragain is different from the one that formed the basis of their bail. No law in the land says that u can't re arrest someone granted bail for an offence for another offence committed entirely by the culprit.
Was Dokpesi rearrested after bail? What about Lamido? They were not because they had no additional baggage to answer to and they were allowed to go. The same can't be said of these criminals.
Besides it's an irony that the foolish dilector will be demanding for rule of law from the zoo. Does that make sense to u?

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Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by dombenis(m): 1:40pm On Jan 04, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
Both kanu and dasuki are gonners
buhari thought that he own this country. is it because Dasuki was the one that arrested him during IBB regime.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by tpnatuzzi: 2:15pm On Jan 04, 2016
What annoys me most about some people is that they think nigeria can be ruled with levity,for you to rule this country then we all need iron hand,honestly i keep saying it nigeria is not yet ripe for democracy as result of level of impunity,misappropriation,fraud and so many things and so measures to contain all this things is really a disaster.Someone single handily diverted funds that is meant for the populace and yet some people with backward thinking sees nothing bad about this.When we have had so may experiences that immediately they release them all on bail they fly out of the country in the pretense of them been sick forever. OK tell me where is Namadi sambo that receives 20 million monthly from the loot? OK where is deziani ?Where is kingsley kuku?where is even lamorde the acclaim effcc?All are in abroad receiving treatment abi?So that they can release sambo too and jump bail.Is high time we start to get things right in this counrty.For the judiciary that is prosecuting i dont know why it takes forever to prosecute and jail someone,as there is enough evidence to jail sambo even though his master is among.We need to leave sentiments and face facts.This are people that have milked this nation dry and should not go unpunished.

NONSENCE undecided Bail koh Bail ni.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by Bevista: 2:24pm On Jan 04, 2016
phemray:
Yes u are right! But what if d judge is also bias n corrupt? We just have to obey? No way. Once dasuki jump bail then what happen to d case cos u can never get him back. I think the judges need to learn more since this is d 1st time a serious govt is probing high profile cases without blinking eyes
The problem is that we are building the whole country around one man - PMB. What happens when he is not there anymore? Will you still trust the next president to exercise his powers without checks?
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Democracy is not perfect. Infact, in certain circumstances it could be worse than military rule. Why it is still the preferred system of governance is because of the systemic checks & balances it provides. It is up to the leaders & citizens to make it work.
Re: Kanu, Dasuki : NBA, Sans Differ With Buhari, Sagay by brownsugarxxx: 2:53pm On Jan 04, 2016
Where was judiciary when dasuki and his cohort stole our money? Read our history well judiciary has cost us a lot as well

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