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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Freciprocal: 5:21pm On Jan 04, 2016
stanisbaratheon:



okay that sounds like reservoir engineering to me.

But in your earlier post you said you collect data that's what i'm concerned about.


Tho i didn't study petroleum engineering but i have friends that did and i strongly believe the design of that wireline logging process is done by an engineer.

Yeah! That's the industry term.

Electrical, physics, Mathematics, electronics... majorly all form the core...

There are even equations to that effect!
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by stanisbaratheon: 5:23pm On Jan 04, 2016
Freciprocal:

Yeah! That's the industry term.
Electrical, physics, Mathematics, electronics... majorly all form the core...
There are even equations to that effect!
sure
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jan 04, 2016
i think the op should chose his field based on his capability not on potential job prospect.
the difference btw mech engine and math/stat is similar to that btw economics and accounting .math/stat are very detailed professions but,i think the are limited to just their field and suchbwhile mech is an ever complex matter hence their adaptability to many fields.Am a 400L mech student hence my opinion might be biased(unintentionally) ,but i would give a detailed summary of what mech entails.
mech just doesnt deal with the math related problems of calculus and computational analysis and methods(mathematically representing equations etcetra),we deal with real life variables(friction,temperature differentials etcetera as entailed in heat and mass transfer,refrigeration,thermodynamics and fluid mechanics).I don't know what a stat/math graduate sees when he encounters the river Niger bridge but i know it isn't 1/2 of what an engineer sees.My last point reminded me of the artistic part of mech engine -engine drawing(orthographic,isometric,coupling projections not forgetting CAD/CAM programmes) .Their is also the account like part ie production planning and control(crash analysis and crash diagrams,queuing theory etcetera).I believe the above goes to show that mech engine is very different but compatible with stat/math hence,their no dicking way a math grad can substitute or perform the function of a mech grad which is, to design,fabricate and maintain.

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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:28pm On Jan 04, 2016
Durentt:
what? Future at stake from studying mathematics? u definitely hav a very LOW IQ for typing dis

You can be insultive if it makes you feel better. But let us not deceive ourselves here, where is he going to work with maths in nigeria. His options are lecturing, teaching or working in a bank. Yeah he can get some job in an oil firm but hpw many of such would exist for a maths grad compared to an engr? I know how many folks drop cv with me, pleading to help wih a job but the truth is nigeria of today favours professional courses. Except all he wants is any job at all wether it falls in his line or not, I dont see much prospects for maths.

You lots remind me of professors in vetinary medicine who brag to their students about vet being suprior to mediine but yet all their kids study medicine not vet.

Anyways he should do whatever he wishes. In about 5years he will find out the truth for himself. Nigeria isnt U.S.A

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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 04, 2016
einsteino:


You can be insultive if it makes you feel better. But let us not deceive ourselves here, where is he going to work with maths in nigeria. His options are lecturing, teaching or working in a bank. Yeah he can get some job in an oil firm but hpw many of such would exist for a maths grad compared to an engr? I know how many folks drop cv with me, pleading to help wih a job but the truth is nigeria of today favours professional courses. Except all he wants is any job at all wether it falls in his line or not, I dont see much prospects for maths.

You lots remind me of professors in vetinary medicine who brag to their students about vet being suprior to mediine but yet all their kids study medicine not vet.

Anyways he should do whatever he wishes. In about 5years he will find out the truth for himself. Nigeria isnt U.S.A
don't say wat u don't kno.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by croSStodds(m): 5:31pm On Jan 04, 2016
martineverest:
Insult to mechanical engineering..... Do mathematicians, accountants and statisticians realize that an average mechanical engineer do 80% of their courses?. Get an advanced engineering mathematics textbook and see the degree of statistics that's in it

Mechanical engineering is the broadest and hardest discipline in engineering.
undecided undecided Mech is the broadest?Ask a civil engnr student and he'll tell you the same.An elect elect student once told me elect is the mother of engineering,Even petrochemical engnr students would make the same claim.So which is the hardest and broadest? undecided undecided
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:34pm On Jan 04, 2016
Op dont listen to anyone here. Simply do this. Go thru all the job adverts of last year(try using jobberman and its likes) check how many openings for a maths grad vs for an engr. Also ask people already working not some ignorant undergrads who dont know jack about nigerias labour market. They are still living an illusion.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:38pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
undecided undecided Mech is the broadest?Ask a civil engnr student and he'll tell you the same.An elect elect student once told me elect is the mother of engineering,Even petrochemical engnr students would make the same claim.So which is the hardest and broadest? undecided undecided

Didnt you do history of engr? Simply check wikipedia.. Civil is the mother of engineering. Formerly it was just civil and military engr.. Later every other field broke out from civil. Do some research. Cant say how broad mech is, since I didnt do mech. So long as u have passion and the brains, you will survive no matter how broad it is. Engr is naturally very tough
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by martineverest(m): 5:42pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
undecided undecided Mech is the broadest?Ask a civil engnr student and he'll tell you the same.An elect elect student once told me elect is the mother of engineering,Even petrochemical engnr students would make the same claim.So which is the hardest and broadest? undecided undecided
mech is the hardest by far.. Mech and elect are the boardest... Chemical, elect and mech are the three main branches of engineering. Others are derived from them
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:42pm On Jan 04, 2016
Durentt:
don't say wat u don't kno.
see I graduated in 2012, I have very good fwends who studied maths as well as relatives. They have good grades too, so I know what am saying. Nigeria wants what you can practice or what it has a market for. Stop dreaming.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:43pm On Jan 04, 2016
martineverest:
mech is the hardest by far.. Mech and elect are the boardest... Chemical, elect and mech are the three main branches of engineering. Others are derived from them

Haha very wrong . Check wikipedi
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by einsteino(m): 5:43pm On Jan 04, 2016
martineverest:
mech is the hardest by far.. Mech and elect are the boardest... Chemical, elect and mech are the three main branches of engineering. Others are derived from them

Haha very wrong . Check wikipedia and come back to correct ursef.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jan 04, 2016
einsteino:
see I graduated in 2012, I have very good fwends who studied maths as well as relatives. They have good grades too, so I know what am saying. Nigeria wants what you can practice or what it has a market for. Stop dreaming.


if anyone is dreaming here, its you. Mathematicians nd statisticians are hot cakes. Tak it or leave it, bye-bye.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by uracocksucker: 5:46pm On Jan 04, 2016
deluxeT:
As from today young man or lady as the case may be, make sure you are checking the vacancies in all daily news papers for science and engineering positions and the requirements for them.
Don't let anybody mislead you I am mech engine graduate from lautech since 2008. I can tell u that the most sought after engineers are mech guys they seem to be able to fit in into other engineering branches while the reverse may not be the case for other fields of engineering.

Sooo, the sky is not even your limits with MECH or MECH ENGINE... as we popularly call it. As for maths and and Say oh. Let a Maths person come and clear our doubts..

Finally, if u ever find a chance to travel out oh boy you don hammer be that oh. PROVIDED YOU ARE HARDWORKING AND MENTALLY STRONG, because mech is the hardest of all engineering fields after aerospace which was formerly under mech before being completely pulled out. some. univ universities are still offering it under mech.

If u are say. aye if u are against say nay. The ayes have it GBAM.

lies simple as especially the if you travel out part. with mathematics you have variety... finance & banking, computing and engineering firms (just to mention a few) will always recruit Mathematics graduates. However with engineering, the niche you specialize is all the option you have.

so if you talking job opportunities ur variety, variable option, lies with Mathematics on this shore and ABROAD
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 5:48pm On Jan 04, 2016
martineverest:
mech is the hardest by far.. Mech and elect are the boardest... Chemical, elect and mech are the three main branches of engineering. Others are derived from them
dis illiterate guy again, always posting trash Who told u other engineering courses were derived frm those 3?
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Engrpj(m): 5:53pm On Jan 04, 2016
saxywale:

civil is the oldest engineering discipline and mother of Engineering.
I am not even a civil engineer.



Bros. Am not talking abt the oldest..... Every Engineering Student must offer Mechanical Courses......... not vice versa
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by TimothyNkenu: 5:56pm On Jan 04, 2016
calculator123:
the above.courses am comfortable with,presently am in maths dept in one of the federal uni around,going to 200lvl next year,pls classify them under prospects,chances of being self employed e.t.c by the way i will be 18 next year

Congrats on your making FP
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by kingiyin: 5:57pm On Jan 04, 2016
calculator123:
the above.courses am comfortable with,presently am in maths dept in one of the federal uni around,going to 200lvl next year,pls classify them under prospects,chances of being self employed e.t.c by the way i will be 18 next year
Both have good prospects but Mech eng will bring you a better salary and more opportunities as an entrepreneur. There's a shortage of engineers because the demand for them is more than those graduating, more students are opting for easier and shorter duration courses and the need for engineers is expected to be rising every year due to advancements in technology plus as a Mech eng, you can work in virtually any technological field
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by elume2020(m): 5:58pm On Jan 04, 2016
Op first it is I'm and not am.... If you are studying mathematics and can major in Statistics please go ahead. No field is exclusively independent.
I hold a B. Eng in Mechanical Engineering, but from my experience most models engineer develop are equation driven but future model will be data driven. I had a master in Chemical Engineering and from my field work and research I can tell you before a company will invest in new equipment for process optimizations, they push the existing process to the limit which is most often done by data logging and data visualisation. How do you predict future demand for a product, how do you forecast system behaviour based on historical data, how to you take care of uncertainty in process economic... If not through data analysis mostly expertise of data scientists who are statisticians. Based on informed decision from the data scientists correlated with Engineering laws, engineers can juxtapose process conditions to maximise system yield within the equipment operating limit.
I am presently taking courses on data analysis for my phd with research focus on energy. I can tell you I am not finding it funny or easy. Trying to understand distribution, probabilistic analysis, markov chain, time series data analysis just to mention a few. Though I understand the Engineering aspect of my work but that statistical aspects of it has been the challenge. If you were in my shoes the reverse would have been the case but you can catch up quickly on Engineering aspect much faster than the statistical aspect of it.
So I encourage you to stick to what you are already studying beside if you want to be self employed in core mechanical engineering then you will need some good capital and you imagination skills has to be very high. But the beautiful side of Engineering is you can easily cross between various Engineering fields with great success and still try your hands on the sciences.
I have only created a scenario of statistics to Engineering but what about business data analysis, big data analysis, health data, even your shopping habit for example at a mall can be predicted from your visit and you bank details per swipe you do. So overtime you discover that that particular product you buy is always on the shelf. People might not appreciate mathematicians especially statistician in Nigeria because Nigeria lack good data collection system.
Best wishes in your future endeavour.

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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by alcuin(m): 6:05pm On Jan 04, 2016
Freciprocal:

Google "Well logging"
Read also about wireline Engineering
Patiently awaiting ur questions
So, in your craziest dream Well logging is a mathematician's job.
Mind you, I'm a Petroleum Engineer....mind what u reply.
Thanks.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by gunpoint(m): 6:09pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
coolNice one
But I pinpointed a loophole in your post.What do you mean by Engineers dominate the banking sector undecided undecided undecided That's more or less a conjecture which's bereft of any justification to back up the claim.Pls,try making assertions without sentiment.I suppose you said that by virtue of the fact you're an Engineer.What happened to the bankers,accountants and the economists in banks? It's just tantamount to saying "Geophysicst rule oil industry" owing to the fact they can work there,but we know the truth still remains,oil sector is being ruled by engineers,petrochemical in particular.
Besides,the mandates of engineers in bank is limited,they only do auxiliary work undecided undecided
And you're so on point with that fact about programming you cited.Even me wey dey study pharmacy sef fit do programming. undecided undecided undecided
Engineers actually outnumber any single discipline in banking.
Banks hardly employ "economists", and you will find lots of high level bankers have an engineering background negating your assertion that engineers work on the periphery of banking.
My GM was an engineer, current MD UBA engineer. Lots and lots of examples. How ever, you hardly find maths grads
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Freciprocal: 6:11pm On Jan 04, 2016
alcuin:


So, in your craziest dream Well logging is a mathematician's job.

Mind you, I'm a Petroleum Engineer....mind what u reply.

Thanks.

You started your alcohol intake so early... cheesy

Go through all my post and read them SLOWLY!

Those I exchange ideas with are satisfied as we both learnt from each other.

If u have any reasonable questions after reading my post... I am here to ansa
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by PrinceMario(m): 6:14pm On Jan 04, 2016
calculator123:
the above.courses am comfortable with,presently am in maths dept in one of the federal uni around,going to 200lvl next year,pls classify them under prospects,chances of being self employed e.t.c by the way i will be 18 next year
How on earth will someone be comparing Mechanical engineering to Mathematics? it's an abuse on the freedom of speech. How many job vacancy have you come across that ask for BSC mathematics. An engineering graduate will adequately function wherever a math graduate is required, be it in the tax/Audit/finance firm and even banks. but same can't be said of a math graduate performing the responsibility of an engineer. Don't be deceived by the gullible who said maths is more prestigious abroad than engineering, or you'd turn a engineer abroad with a degree in mathematics,its a big lie from the pit of hell...who does that? Engineering is so broad that they can function anywhere and compete with maths graduate for there space but a mathematics graduate can compete with an engineering major in an engineering firm.
I'll advice you switch, if you can.

My two cents.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jan 04, 2016
gunpoint:

Engineers actually outnumber any single discipline in banking.
Banks hardly employ "economists", and you will find lots of high level bankers have an engineering background negating your assertion that engineers work on the periphery of banking.
My GM was an engineer, current MD UBA engineer. Lots and lots of examples. How ever, you hardly find maths grads
how do we expect nigeria to move forward when we giv banking jobs to engineers?
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Aizenosa(m): 6:15pm On Jan 04, 2016
calculator123:
the above.courses am comfortable with,presently am in maths dept in one of the federal uni around,going to 200lvl next year,pls classify them under prospects,chances of being self employed e.t.c by the way i will be 18 next year

In Nigeria mathematics will always be more preferred to mechanical, but overseas where there are real industries mathematics is like a foregone alternative. Mind u a mechanical engineer's work is to think, Mathematicians can't do that.

A true mechanical engineer can work anywhere quote me anywhere anytime
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Seedorrf(m): 6:25pm On Jan 04, 2016
My brother, I am a Mechanical Engineer by training and profession. Please don't be discourage. If you are in maths and you CGPA is enough for you to cross to Engineering, it is an opportunity please do. But if your CGPA is not then make sure you do well in mathematics you can become a good lecturer in future for entrepreneurship skill Engineering is the best.You can also learn programming with Mathematics and Engineering. The main point here is your CGPA.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by alcuin(m): 6:25pm On Jan 04, 2016
Freciprocal:


You started your alcohol intake so early... cheesy

Go through all my post and read them SLOWLY!

Those I exchange ideas with are satisfied as we both learnt from each other.

If u have any reasonable questions after reading my post... I am here to ansa

Kid
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jan 04, 2016
Neither. Mathematics limits you in that you don't qualify for engineering jobs. Mechanical engineering is being slowly phasedbout. Go for electrical engineering. You will have more opportunities.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by alcuin(m): 6:29pm On Jan 04, 2016
Please when are we having philosophy is better than law argument?
The is the most s.tip!d argument of the year, so far.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Seedorrf(m): 6:29pm On Jan 04, 2016
It depend on your CGPA. If you have a goog CGPA cross over to engineering. If not pass well in maths you can become a good lecturer. for Entrepreneurship skill and job Engineering is the best.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jan 04, 2016
Neither. Mathematics limits you in that you don't qualify for engineering jobs. Mechanical engineering is being slowly phased out. Go for electrical engineering. You will have more opportunities.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by RedArrow: 6:34pm On Jan 04, 2016
These courses are in the same Abelian group.
An Engineer can work anywhere a Mathematician can work but a Mathematician cannot work in all the places and engineer would work.
If you can, go for Engineering. But you may still end up in Banks like me with my MSc in Mathematics and my colleagues with their B.a in Engineering

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