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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:

Seeker is in Service
With poachers.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:29pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:
Egypt might be the powerful military in Africa but have zero data link.

Prove they don't have, prove it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:34pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:
Egypt might be the powerful military in Africa but have zero data link.

Is data link a weapon? Egyptian Rafales will kill SANDF and kill all yõur datalink when 1.5 million soldiers surround yöur 50,000 SANDF tiny army.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:36pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:

Prove they don't have, prove it.

You were supposed to give me the name of Egyptian DATA LINK. NATO does not want to sell it like they sell Rafales. They know well that Datalink is the most dangerous weapon that can even help other countries to pose threat to NATO countries.

Data link was the sole west monopoly until SA cracked it and introduce their own, LINK ZA.

Egypt does not have a data link and all their platforms cannot see one enermy at the same time.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:38pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


80% is imported? Who were we importing from during the arms embargoes?

Yes it does - See Juliet Troop at Quito

Prove? Link-ZA, EODS, ground based ELINT, Milan-AD, Starstreak, Badger, Chaka-Battle Managment, IMPI Tracking system, Gripen, Valour Class, Heroin Class, Hawks, Gripen, Rooivalk, mobile radar systems and the rests of GBADS, CRAM etc etc etc


Other African countries have MORE ADVANCED military equipment than your unimpressive list of SANDF hardware above, see the list I made for Africa's best weapons in each category.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:39pm On Jan 05, 2016
andrewza:


Come back when you have somthing close to ZA link

Come back when you have something close to ATR-42 Surveyor
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:40pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


Is data link a weapon? Egyptian Rafales will kill SANDF and kill all yõur datalink when 1.5 million soldiers surround yöur 50,000 SANDF tiny army.

YES IT IS. WITHOUT DATALINK ALL PLATFORMS CANNOT SEE THE SAME ENERMY AT THE SAME TIME. IT GIVES YOU ADVANTAGE OVER YOUR ENEMY.

WITH EGYPT, IF ONE RAFALE SEES THE ENEMY OTHERS SEE NOTHING.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:41pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


Come back when you have something close to ATR-42 Surveyor

ATR IS A CHEAP TECH.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:42pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:


You were supposed to give me the name of Egyptian DATA LINK. NATO does not want to sell it like they sell Rafales. They know well that Datalink is the most dangerous weapon that can even help other countries to pose threat to NATO countries.

Data link was the sole west monopoly until SA cracked it and introduce their own, LINK ZA.

Egypt does not have a data link and all their platforms cannot see one enermy at the same time.

How do you know Egypt has not developed its own indeginous datalink? Its an ordinary software, or is datalink a nuclear weapon?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:43pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:


YES IT IS. WITHOUT DATALINK ALL PLATFORMS CANNOT SEE THE SAME ENERMY AT THE SAME TIME. IT GIVES YOU ADVANTAGE OVER YOUR ENEMY.

WITH EGYPT, IF ONE RAFALE SEES THE ENEMY OTHERS SEE NOTHING.

Prove it. Please prove it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:45pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:



Technological experts will tell you that analog remains the most reliable masterpiece in the world.

So F-7 jet is better than Gripen jet. Thanks for admitting that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:46pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


4 Valour Class
3 Heroin Class
3 Warrior Class
3 (?) River Class
The Drakensberg
3 T-Class IPV's
21 Harbour Patrol class
6 Lima-Class Landing Craft

Now go ahead, list your fleet

Now list yours please

I did, last year.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:47pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


Seeker is in Service

Prove it, show us the photo and weblink too.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:48pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


1. You dont have a data-link

2. No that is a lie, you dont have that level of intergration

3. You dont have mobile radars so how are you tracking those things?

4. The rest of your post is nonsense

Nigeria has mobile radars, we argued this topic last year.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:49pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


So F-7 jet is better than Gripen jet. Thanks for admitting that.


I have said some Analog eguipments are the best in their own league. Go read my statement.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:49pm On Jan 05, 2016
FighterPilot:


Data link is the most important weapon. Yes.

Data link is a computer communication software NOT a weapon you mumu !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:49pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


Nigeria has mobile radars, we argued this topic last year.

Substantiate your claim.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:52pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


Data link is a computer communication software NOT a weapon you mumu !

That is just a metaphor. Data link is a weapon such that without it weapons literally become ineffective and inefficient.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:52pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


1. Your Beechcraft 350 is a VIP transport platform

2. Badger is the most advanced IFV in Africa.

3. Citation needed for Falcon Eye

4. How is the CH-3 more advanced than the Seekr?

Agustus, you wouldent know a fact if it fell out of your arse

NAF has both Beechcraft transport and surveillance versions in service.

Nigerian Beechcraft 350ER has been proved to be ISTAR many times repeatedly on this forum.

I wont waste my time in 2016 repeating old stuff.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:58pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


Badger is the most advanced IFV in Africa.

Citation needed for Falcon Eye


Falcon Eye was posted here last year with full citations, why should we repeat it? If you want to waste peoples time in 2016, I wont be one of those people.

Badger is a bad obsolete IFV configuration dated 15 years old doctrine.

A standard Badger IFV has only one major weapon, 30 mm cannon with slow rate of fire.

A standard BTR-4 has many weapons mixed, anti-tank missiles + 30 mm cannon + 30 mm Grenade launcher.....modern IFV configuration.

Nigeria has the most advanced IFV in Africa from Cape Town to Cairo
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:00pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:

NAF has both Beechcraft transport and surveillance versions in service.
Nigerian Beechcraft 350ER has been proved to be ISTAR many times repeatedly on this forum.
I wont waste my time in 2016 repeating old stuff.

Naija has no data link. Your ISTAR without data link is limited.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:03pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:


Naija has no data link. Your ISTAR without data link is limited.

Beechcraft has inbuilt datalink, I posted the manufacturer specs here many times last year.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:10pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


Beechcraft has inbuilt datalink, I posted the manufacturer specs here many times last year.


Having inbuilt data link does not mean it has TDL or is connected to MTN (Multi-Tactical Network). The platform is limited only to itself.


SANDF has both TDL and MTN to even integrate beechcraft to the network-LINK ZA.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:12pm On Jan 05, 2016
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Badger is a bad obsolete IFV configuration dated 15 years old doctrine.

A standard Badger IFV has only one major weapon, 30 mm cannon with slow rate of fire.

A standard BTR-4 has many weapons combined together on ONE SINGLE VEHICLE altogether at the same time , anti-tank missiles + 30 mm cannon + 30 mm Grenade launcher.....modern IFV configuration.

Nigeria has the most advanced IFV in Africa from Cape Town to Cairo

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:17pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:



Having inbuilt data link does not mean it has TDL or is connected to MTN (Multi-Tactical Network). The platform is limited only to itself.


SANDF has both TDL and MTN to even integrate beechcraft to the network-LINK ZA.

How can an ISTAR aircraft be limited to itself you fool? You mean the datalink sends data from the aircraft back to itself only? Have you seen an aircraft comunicating to itself, by sending the messages from itself back to itself? Fool !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:17pm On Jan 05, 2016
South Africa has monopoly of the highest military technology, that is TDL and MTN in Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:18pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:
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Badger is a bad obsolete IFV configuration dated 15 years old doctrine.

A standard Badger IFV has only one major weapon, 30 mm cannon with slow rate of fire.

A standard BTR-4 has many weapons combined together on ONE SINGLE VEHICLE altogether at the same time , anti-tank missiles + 30 mm cannon + 30 mm Grenade launcher.....modern IFV configuration.

Nigeria has the most advanced IFV in Africa from Cape Town to Cairo

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SA badger will all use modern tech systems and will be unique in its own league.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:25pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:


How can an ISTAR aircraft be limited to itself you fool? You mean the datalink sends data from the aircraft back to itself only? Have you seen an aircraft comunicating to itself, by sending the messages from itself back to itself? Fool !

Meaning it cannot pass information to other platforms in real time nor even communicate with other platforms and see what other platforms see in real time.

No TDL, ZERO MTN.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:28pm On Jan 05, 2016
Patchesagain:


1. South Africa produces missiles

2. South Africa produced a tank

3. South Africa built jet aircraft

Yes, we can and have built tanks

1. Sudan produces missiles too, so what?

2. South Africa has NEVER produced any tank, you only upgraded your British built Centurion tanks and renamed it Olifant tank.

3. South Africa built NO jet fighter, you only assembled jet aircraft CKD parts imported fully manufactured from Europe
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:


Meaning it cannot pass information to other platforms in real time nor even communicate with other platforms and see what other platforms see in real time.

No TDL, ZERO MTN.

So whom does its datalink communicate with? ISTAR includes enemy target acquisition for army formations on the ground, that is the meaning of TA in ISTAR.


So, whom does the Beechraft datalink communicate enemy target positions to, it communicates with itself?

Fool of Soweto.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:41pm On Jan 05, 2016
mzilakazi:



DEFENCE INDUSTRY IS THE SOURCE OF WEAPONS.

Give me one missile that was built in Egypt.

Scud missile

FROG missile

Swingfire missile

Ballistic missiles http://fas.org:8080/nuke/guide/egypt/missile/index.html
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:48pm On Jan 05, 2016
agaugust:

So whom does its datalink communicate with? ISTAR includes enemy target acquisition for army formations on the ground, that is the meaning of TA in ISTAR.
So, whom does the Beechraft datalink communicate enemy target positions to, it communicates with itself?
Fool of Soweto.

That will only be partial. It won't communicate with all systems. The enemy that ATR can see cannot be seen by other aircrafts at the same time dummy. You don't have TDL/MTN.

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