agaugust:


LOL...NO ! Never ! Who wants SAAF aircraft that has analog cockpit ?

Even the Beechcraft 350i transports that we bought in 2014 have been re-configured for RECONNAISSANCE to join the earlier two Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR we had before.....We are besting you with a whole fleet of modern ISTAR aircraft plus JF-17 Thunder backing them up !

" The recent air operation against the BHTs was commanded by the Chief of the Air Staff, CAS, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar from NAF reconnaissance aircraft, the King Air 350i. The CAS coordinated the various NAF platforms involved in the operation to provide close air support to ground forces, led by the Chief of the Army Staff, Lt Gen Tukur Buratai, as they advance from Dikwa to Gamboru Ngala."

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/188868-nigerian-air-force-intercepts-destroys-boko-haram-transport-trucks.html

And so?

It doesnt list any of the specifications you claim

Patchesagain:


The assement was based on your EXISTING fleet you knob... they took your strike craft into consideration.

At the date of the publication or assessment, NN had not bought Falcon Eye and the new missile crafts on order. It has become an outdated publication, 2016 has changed EVERYTHING about that ranking.

Henry240:


Why don't you tell us what a 4 GEN fighter is, provide it's characteristics.

JF are some of the fighters which have been smuggled to 4 gen family.

agaugust:


At the date of the publication or assessment, NN had not bought Falcon Eye and the new missile crafts on order. It has become an outdated publication, 2016 has changed EVERYTHING about that ranking.

Read the assessment - you have no FORCE PROJECTION

Falcon Eye does not provide you with the ability to PROJECT FORCE

And you DO NOT have missile craft on order

You absolute knob, you are clearly exhausted... take a break. I am about to go for a run, maybe you should to.

FighterPilot:


JF are some of the fighters which have been smuggled to 4 gen family.

Block 3 are 4th gen.

They are getting Block 2's which are the cheaper 3rd gen variants.

JUNK FIGHTER IS AN INTERCEPTOR THAT MAKES MAX SPEED OF ONLY MACH 1.6. WHAT A JOKE!!!

Patchesagain:



South Africa said it needed a squadron of heavy fighters when we bought the Gripen in 1998... did we get them?

All I know is that you bought 3 3rd Gen copys of the F16, a plane so sh1t that the people who make it dont even buy it

I also know Nigeria is a country which says "we buy dis, we buy dat" and end up with fokol.

When you have 40... then you can get back to me

What did we say buy, and didn't buy?


Furnish us with examples.

Patchesagain:


Read the assessment - you have no FORCE PROJECTION

Falcon Eye does not provide you with the ability to PROJECT FORCE

And you DO NOT have missile craft on order

You absolute knob, you are clearly exhausted... take a break. I am about to go for a run, maybe you should to.

Nigerian navy cannot project force anywhere outside Nigeria's shores.

Yes, it has always been like that.

Patchesagain:


And so?

It doesnt list any of the specifications you claim

The newspaper is not Nairaland argument forum, it does not intend to make list of any details for argument with fools like you

The source quotes the word Reconnaissance and it summarizes it all, and it was used in combat ops for recce. Proved.

NAF now has ...

3 Beechcraft 350i Reconnaissance

2 Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR

2 Diamond D42 ISR

2 ATR-42 MPA/ISTAR/ELINT/secondary role AWACS 407 km range radar

10 F-7 jets

3 JF-17 jets likely with BVR missiles, anti-radar, and anti-ship missiles like the Pakistani air force.

SAAF is dead on arrival....6 pilots for Gripen jet with no combat qualified pilots and no BVR missiles in 10 years

[size=13pt] JF-17 Thunder is new King in Sub Saharan Africa 2016 [/size]

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Henry240:


What did we say buy, and didn't buy?


Furnish us with examples.

- Tucano
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32881:nigeria-interested-in-buying-super-tucanos&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Scoprion
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37048:nigeria-looking-to-buy-scorpion-jets&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Su30/35
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/why-are-african-countries-buying-all-these-high-tech-jet-fighters-55a07133bc79#.mdzn1q513

- Oplot
https://beegeagle./2014/09/20/nigeria-in-the-hunt-for-advanced-ukrainian-buily-t84-oplot-tanks-first-two-units-spotted-at-an-airport-preparatory-to-being-exported-in-ukraine/

- 100 T72 (ended up with less than 30)

- A submarine, TWELVE Agusta A109 Power helicopters
TWELVE Eurocopter AS-550 Fennec naval attack choppers Landing Platform Dock, and TWO Logistics Ships.TWO corvettes,TWO LPDs,
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/navy-modernization.htm


We have heard this tale many many times.

Patchesagain:

And so?
It doesnt list any of the specifications you claim

See him........ Grasping at straws, you are pathetic!

agaugust:


The newspaper is not Nairaland argument forum, it does not intend to make list of any details for argument with fools like you

The source quotes the word Reconnaissance and it summarizes it all, and it was used in combat ops for recce. Proved.

NAF now has ...

[s]3 Beechcraft 350i Reconnaissance

2 Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR

2 Diamond D42 ISR[/s]

2 ATR-42 MPA/ISTAR/ELINT/secondary role AWACS 407 km range radar

10 F-7 jets

3 JF-17 jets [s]likely with BVR missiles, anti-radar, and anti-ship missiles like the Pakistani air force.[/s]

SAAF is dead on arrival....6 pilots for Gripen jet with no combat qualified pilots and no BVR missiles in 10 years


.

There you go, I left you with a list of what you ACTUALLY have.

Why do you bother telling us about things you dont have? Does it satisfy you? It must feel so empty bragging about non-existant things.

We on the other hand have around 50 light and medium fighters and soon our Gripen will be 76% operational with domestic BVRM under development and world leading WVRMs in service.

You see that? It felt good to type that out... because we actually have that

agaugust:


LOL...NO ! Never ! Who wants SAAF aircraft that has analog cockpit ?

Even the Beechcraft 350i transports that we bought in 2014 have been re-configured for RECONNAISSANCE to join the earlier two Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR we had before.....We are besting you with a whole fleet of modern ISTAR aircraft plus JF-17 Thunder backing them up !

" The recent air operation against the BHTs was commanded by the Chief of the Air Staff, CAS, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar from NAF reconnaissance aircraft, the King Air 350i. The CAS coordinated the various NAF platforms involved in the operation to provide close air support to ground forces, led by the Chief of the Army Staff, Lt Gen Tukur Buratai, as they advance from Dikwa to Gamboru Ngala."

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/188868-nigerian-air-force-intercepts-destroys-boko-haram-transport-trucks.html

Nothing wrong with SAAFs Cessna 208s, best light transport plane for African conditions.

Patchesagain:


- Tucano
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32881:nigeria-interested-in-buying-super-tucanos&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Scoprion
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37048:nigeria-looking-to-buy-scorpion-jets&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Su30/35
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/why-are-african-countries-buying-all-these-high-tech-jet-fighters-55a07133bc79#.mdzn1q513

- Oplot
https://beegeagle./2014/09/20/nigeria-in-the-hunt-for-advanced-ukrainian-buily-t84-oplot-tanks-first-two-units-spotted-at-an-airport-preparatory-to-being-exported-in-ukraine/

- 100 T72 (ended up with less than 30)

- A submarine, TWELVE Agusta A109 Power helicopters
TWELVE Eurocopter AS-550 Fennec naval attack choppers Landing Platform Dock, and TWO Logistics Ships.TWO corvettes,TWO LPDs,
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/navy-modernization.htm


We have heard this tale many many times.

So interest in now equals purchase?......... Is this what you were taught in your soweto schools?

Henry240:


So interest in now equals purchase?......... Is this what you were taught in your soweto schools?

According to you and augubug the deals were as good as done.

When you have 40 sitting on your runway, then you can talk to us.

Until then, you only have 3.

Wow.

Much impressed.

*Clap*

CAN A JUNK FIGHTER INTERCEPT GRIPEN SPEEDING AT MACH 1.8? JUST ASKING.

Patchesagain:


According to you and augubug the deals were as good as done.

In essence, you have no evidence to support you claim that the Nigerian government made purchase orders it didn't follow up with.



Ok..... Thanks for been 5% honest, we are making progress.

Patchesagain:


- Tucano
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32881:nigeria-interested-in-buying-super-tucanos&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Scoprion
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37048:nigeria-looking-to-buy-scorpion-jets&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

- Su30/35
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/why-are-african-countries-buying-all-these-high-tech-jet-fighters-55a07133bc79#.mdzn1q513

- Oplot
https://beegeagle./2014/09/20/nigeria-in-the-hunt-for-advanced-ukrainian-buily-t84-oplot-tanks-first-two-units-spotted-at-an-airport-preparatory-to-being-exported-in-ukraine/

- 100 T72 (ended up with less than 30)

- A submarine, TWELVE Agusta A109 Power helicopters
TWELVE Eurocopter AS-550 Fennec naval attack choppers Landing Platform Dock, and TWO Logistics Ships.TWO corvettes,TWO LPDs,
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/navy-modernization.htm


We have heard this tale many many times.

[size=15pt]

Nigerian military procurement process is still ONGOING and they can change one thing and replace with another thing.

Super Tucano is replaced with 10 Super Mushashak 4th Generation COIN aircraft for NAF !

SAAF has NO SINGLE dedicated COIN aircraft.

Southies go die of ENVY...





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agaugust:


The newspaper is not Nairaland argument forum, it does not intend to make list of any details for argument with fools like you

The source quotes the word Reconnaissance and it summarizes it all, and it was used in combat ops for recce. Proved.

NAF now has ...

3 Beechcraft 350i Reconnaissance

2 Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR

2 Diamond D42 ISR

2 ATR-42 MPA/ISTAR/ELINT/secondary role AWACS 407 km range radar

10 F-7 jets

3 JF-17 jets likely with BVR missiles, anti-radar, and anti-ship missiles like the Pakistani air force.

SAAF is dead on arrival....6 pilots for Gripen jet with no combat qualified pilots and no BVR missiles in 10 years

[size=13pt] JF-17 Thunder is new King in Sub Saharan Africa 2016 [/size]

.

Surely it will only make mach 0.8 with all of that.

Henry240:


In essence, you have no evidence to support you claim that the Nigerian government made purchase orders it didn't follow up with.



Ok..... Thanks for been 5% honest, we are making progress.

No, in essence, what I have shown is that the Nigerian government says it is going to make big orders... and then doesnt.

FighterPilot:
CAN A JUNK FIGHTER INTERCEPT GRIPEN SPEEDING AT MACH 1.8? JUST ASKING.

Can JAS Gripen Junk Aircraft Systems....JAS means Junk Aircraft Systems....can Gripen match JF-17 that flies at 52,000 feet, higher by 2,000 feet above the Gripen?

agaugust:


[size=15pt]

Nigerian military procurement process is still ONGOING and they can change one thing and replace with another thing.

Super Tucano has been replaced with Super Mushashak 4th Generation COIN aircraft for NAF !

SAAF has NO SINGLE dedicated COIN aircraft.

Southies go die of ENVY...





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1. You are getting it as a trainer

2. "4th gen COIN Aircraft" what the fvck are you talking about?

Finally, why would we get slow and low prop driven planes when we have Hawks which can drop PGM's and are super cheap to operate?

Dude, I fail to see how bragging about things you dont have would make you feel good.

Patchesagain:


No, in essence, what I have shown is that the Nigerian government says it is going to make big orders... and then doesnt.

........ But you haven't provided any proof to support your claim.


Why don't you provide evidence?

agaugust:


Can JAS Gripen Junk Aircraft Systems....JAS means Junk Aircraft Systems....can Gripen match JF-17 that flies at 52,000 feet, higher by 2,000 feet above the Gripen?

Cherry picking specifications again?

Henry240:


........ But you haven't provided any proof to support your claim.


Why don't you provide evidence?

You arent reading the links i provide are you??

Patchesagain:


1. You are getting it as a trainer

2. "4th gen COIN Aircraft" what the fvck are you talking about?

Finally, why would we get slow and low prop driven planes when we have Hawks which can drop PGM's and are super cheap to operate?

Dude, I fail to see how bragging about things you dont have would make you feel good.

Both roles, trainer + COIN that is what the Super Mushak is built for....it's a bad day for you, NAF is flying above SAAF with new aircraft rolling in to rock the skies and contest the Sub Saharan African airspace with ANYBODY !

"Missiles and gunpods of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex's aircraft

The MFI-395 is fitted with six hardpoints under the wing pylons. The inner two stressed hardpoints can carry up to 150kg each. The remaining four carry rockets, gunpods and Bofor Bantam anti-tank missiles."


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mfi-395-super-mushshak-trainer-aircraft/

Go die of envy....ALL Southies go die ! Oil rich countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Nigeria, all fly Super Mushak, big league !
.

agaugust:


Both roles, trainer + COIN that is what the Super Mushak is built for....it's a bad day for you, NAF is flying above SAAF with new aircraft rolling in to rock the skies and contest the Sub Saharan African airspace with ANYBODY !

"Missiles and gunpods of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex's aircraft

The MFI-395 is fitted with six hardpoints under the wing pylons. The inner two stressed hardpoints can carry up to 150kg each. The remaining four carry rockets, gunpods and Bofor Bantam anti-tank missiles."


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mfi-395-super-mushshak-trainer-aircraft/

Go die of envy....ALL Southies go die !
.

Again, why do you think that we would care?

We have Hawks

Hawks are jets

Hawks drop PGMs... even during Apartheid we choose to build expensive jets for COIN CAS instead of pathetically slow prop driven aircraft

You arent going to be challenging anyone for anything with 3 JF-17s

[size=15pt]and the killer blow:

SAAF operates 60 Pilatus PC-7's

Armament
Hardpoints: 6 × hardpoints for bombs and rockets with a capacity of 1,040 kg (2,294 lb)[31][/size]

Patchesagain:

You arent reading the links i provide are you??

.......But they aren't making the claims you are making.

Nigeria is waiting MTN money to buy weapons. It does not have money to buy 40 junk fighters.

Henry240:


.......But they aren't making the claims you are making.

yes they are - you said you are ""interested in getting 40 JF-17"

Just like you were "interested" in getting Tucans, Scorpions etc etc etc

Weird how your first order would be a pathetically small order of only 3

Patchesagain:


Again, why do you think that we would care?

We have Hawks

Hawks are jets

Hawks drop PGMs... even during Apartheid we choose to build expensive jets for COIN CAS instead of pathetically slow prop driven aircraft

You arent going to be challenging anyone for anything with 3 JF-17s

[size=15pt]and the killer blow:

SAAF operates 60 Pilatus PC-7's

Armament
Hardpoints: 6 × hardpoints for bombs and rockets with a capacity of 1,040 kg (2,294 lb)[31][/size]

[size=20] Just imagine 3 Junk Fighters. Anyone can see that Nigeria does not have money. They have budgeted on MTN money to buy weapons. Behehehehe…[/size]

Patchesagain:


yes they are - you said you are ""interested in getting 40 JF-17"

Just like you were "interested" in getting Tucans, Scorpions etc etc etc

Weird how your first order would be a pathetically small order of only 3

- We said we are close to signing a contract for 25- 40 JF-17s.


- We said we are interested in Tucanos

- We said we are interested in Scorpions


Hope you can spot the difference?