agaugust:


When did Israel defeat Egypt? Over about 50 years ago.....half a century. Egypt of today is not same as 50 years ago flying MiG-21 jets, they now fly high class Rafale jets.

Anyway, last time they fought, it was stalemate no winner.

Isreal clearly won the last time they fought - considering that they Isrealy's ended up INVADING Egypt and were on the doorstep of Damascus

Yes, and Isrealy armament has improved as well... thats how it works

Egypt had a massive army, isreal was fighting on 3 fronts and they still humiliated Egypt and Syria and Iraq and Jordan.

Western Equipment/doctrine > Eastern Equipment/Doctrine

RooiBoi:


THATS THE WHOLE POINT!!! THE WHOLE POINT ISS THAT INFORMATION GETS FROM POINT A TO POINT B FASTER!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION GETS CLOGGED UP IN THE C&C DURING A WAR? WHEN A PATROL IS UNDER HEAVY FIRE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIRE SUPPORT IN 20 and 2 MINUTES IS?

Data link is NOT 10 times faster, UNLESS you prove to us that it does in 2 minutes what C2 will do in 20 minutes....PROVE IT.

agaugust:


Data link is NOT 10 times faster, UNLESS you prove to us that it does in 2 minutes what C2 will do in 20 minutes....PROVE IT.

Datalink is instant sharing of information over a network.


By definition it is faster

Patchesagain:

Good thing then that our "DSS" didnt get robbed.

Did the robbers disarm your "highly trained" Agents with sticks?


What's the South-African name for those long sticks with a curved head?

Patchesagain:


Isreal clearly won the last time they fought - considering that they Isrealy's ended up INVADING Egypt and were on the doorstep of Damascus

Yes, and Isrealy armament has improved as well... thats how it works

Egypt had a massive army, isreal was fighting on 3 fronts and they still humiliated Egypt and Syria and Iraq and Jordan.

Western Equipment/doctrine > Eastern Equipment/Doctrine

Israel won nothing in the last war, Egypt did not surrender, and there were Egyptian troops on Israeli territory too.
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If Israel had advanced to Cairo, they would be cut off in flanks to rear maneuver by Egyptian army in a wide desert battlespace. The Egyptians will deny the Israeli advancing army the usual air support by moving mobile SA-6 SAM in-between the invading Israeli force and the nation of Israel, then Egyptian jets will massacre the cut off Israelis.

That is the tactics Cuba used to force South Africa to beg for peaceful negotiations in Angolan war, Cuba pincered SADF and cutting them off will mean death to all that SANDF regiments.

Henry240:


Did the robbers disarm your "highly trained" Agents with sticks?



What's the South-African name for those long sticks with a curved head?

What are you talking about?

Patchesagain:


Datalink is instant sharing of information over a network.


By definition it is faster

How many times faster? Simple question.

agaugust:


Israel won nothing in the last war, Egypt did not surrender, and there were Egyptian troops on Israeli territory too.
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If Israel had advanced to Cairo, they would be cut off in flanks to rear maneuver by Egyptian army in a wide desert battlespace. The Egyptians will deny the Israeli advancing army the usual air support by moving mobile SA-6 SAM in-between the invading Israeli force and the nation of Israel, then Egyptian jets will massacre the cut off Israelis.

That is the tactics Cuba used to force South Africa to beg for peaceful negotiations in Angolan war, Cuba pincered SADF and cutting them off will mean death to all that SANDF regiments.

1. Egyptian armor was stuck on the OTHER SIDE of the Canal, ever heard of the "Trapped 3rd Army" - the road to Cairo was wide open and the Egyptian Army was in complete dissaray

By the end of the war, the Israelis had advanced to positions some 101 kilometres from Egypt's capital, Cairo, and occupied 1,600 square kilometres west of the Suez Canal.[225] They had also cut the Cairo-Suez road and encircled the bulk of Egypt's Third Army. The Israelis had also taken many prisoners after Egyptian soldiers, including many officers, began surrendering in masses towards the end of the war.[226] The Egyptians held a narrow strip on the east bank of the canal, occupying some 1,200 square kilometres of the Sinai.[226] One source estimated that the Egyptians had 70,000 men, 720 tanks and 994 artillery pieces on the east bank of the canal.[227] However, between 30,000 to 45,000 of them were now encircled by the Israelis.[228][229]

2. Isrealys had knocked out the SA-6's when they crossed the Canal

I reccommend that you read up on the history of that conflict because you quite obviously have no idea what you are talking about

When did Cuba use these tactics? Care to point it out?

Dude, again, how do you derive any satisfaction by making things up in an argument? Do you no longer care about actually being right and now are obsessed only with arguing itself?

agaugust:


How many times faster? Simple question.

Its faster.

That is all that is relevant

mzilakazi:
A man on the wheel chair robbed Nigeria military of £1 million. You don't even need an able bodied man to rob Nigerian military, just only crippled will succeed.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35241447

That is official corruption NOT armed robbery you dunce !

agaugust:


That is official corruption NOT armed robbery you dunce !

Just like the incident in question was corruption and NOT armed robbery you dunce

Patchesagain:


1. Egyptian armor was stuck on the OTHER SIDE of the Canal, ever heard of the "Trapped 3rd Army" - the road to Cairo was wide open and the Egyptian Army was in complete dissaray

By the end of the war, the Israelis had advanced to positions some 101 kilometres from Egypt's capital, Cairo, and occupied 1,600 square kilometres west of the Suez Canal.[225] They had also cut the Cairo-Suez road and encircled the bulk of Egypt's Third Army. The Israelis had also taken many prisoners after Egyptian soldiers, including many officers, began surrendering in masses towards the end of the war.[226] The Egyptians held a narrow strip on the east bank of the canal, occupying some 1,200 square kilometres of the Sinai.[226] One source estimated that the Egyptians had 70,000 men, 720 tanks and 994 artillery pieces on the east bank of the canal.[227] However, between 30,000 to 45,000 of them were now encircled by the Israelis.[228][229]

2. Isrealys had knocked out the SA-6's when they crossed the Canal

I reccommend that you read up on the history of that conflict because you quite obviously have no idea what you are talking about

When did Cuba use these tactics? Care to point it out?

Dude, again, how do you derive any satisfaction by making things up in an argument? Do you no longer care about actually being right and now are obsessed only with arguing itself?

Your citation has NO SOURCE WEBLINK....you wrote that story in your dreams?

Into the garbage bin it goes....no proof...wasted effort.
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agaugust:


Your citation has NO SOURCE WEBLINK....you wrote that story in your dreams?

Into the garbage bin it goes....no proof...wasted effort.
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For once in your life can you not behave like a child?

Patchesagain:


Just like the incident in question was corruption and NOT armed robbery you dunce

Your own country reports it as ROBBERY you liar !!

A brazen robbery, possibly involving tens of millions of
rand, at the offices of the State Security Agency has raised
questions about the effectiveness of the organisation tasked
with keeping South Africans safe.
The robbery took place in the early hours of December 26,
but by Sunday [January 3] the agency was unable to say how
much had been stolen; why its Pretoria headquarters were
so insecure that a safe with cash could be broken into; and
the reason for it keeping cash on the premises.

www.african-defense.com/defense-news-2/robbery-at-south-africas-state-security-agency/

SA intel robbed in its homeland ! Shame !

Cant stop laughing....
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agaugust:


Your own country reports it as ROBBERY you liar !!

A brazen robbery, possibly involving tens of millions of
rand, at the offices of the State Security Agency has raised
questions about the effectiveness of the organisation tasked
with keeping South Africans safe.
The robbery took place in the early hours of December 26,
but by Sunday [January 3] the agency was unable to say how
much had been stolen; why its Pretoria headquarters were
so insecure that a safe with cash could be broken into; and
the reason for it keeping cash on the premises.

www.african-defense.com/defense-news-2/robbery-at-south-africas-state-security-agency/

SA intel robbed in its homeland ! Shame !

Cant stop laughing....
.

Since no violence was involved it is not a robbery, meerly theft and reports indicate there was serious suspicion that it was an inside job.

Pretoria - The Hawks are investigating the theft of a large amount of money from the State Security Agency's offices in Pretoria East on December 26.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/hawks-probe-theft-from-state-security-agency-safe-20160103

Stop wasting my time with your petulant arguments.

Patchesagain:

What are you talking about?

That stick protesters usually carry in your country, what's it called?

Henry240:



That stick protesters usually carry in your country, what's it called?

relevance?

Patchesagain:

relevance?

Educational.

Henry240:


Educational.

You need me to teach you how to use Google??

Patchesagain:

You need me to teach you how to use Google??

Tell me.

agaugust:


Your own country reports it as ROBBERY you liar !!

A brazen robbery, possibly involving tens of millions of
rand, at the offices of the State Security Agency has raised
questions about the effectiveness of the organisation tasked
with keeping South Africans safe.
The robbery took place in the early hours of December 26,
but by Sunday [January 3] the agency was unable to say how
much had been stolen; why its Pretoria headquarters were
so insecure that a safe with cash could be broken into; and
the reason for it keeping cash on the premises.

www.african-defense.com/defense-news-2/robbery-at-south-africas-state-security-agency/

SA intel robbed in its homeland ! Shame !

Cant stop laughing....
.

Patrick is a mad man, I don't no what he is trying to claim.

Shame 1 kill am die.

Henry240:


Tell me.

You want me to tell you how to use google?

iblawi:


Patrick is a mad man, I don't no what he is trying to claim.

Shame 1 kill am die.

That it wasnt a robbery

Which it wasnt - citations have been provided

Patchesagain:


You want me to tell you how to use google?

Tell me the name of the club?

agaugust:


How many times faster? Simple question.

My god... Are my eyes even real? What am I reading here? Are you dense?

Many times faster? If you know what a large-scale engagement is like, it is chaotic and unpredictable. Warfare is much different than 50 years ago as you said about Egypt and Israel.

Just as Mig-21's have evolved into Su-35's, Radio and Hub-spoke communication have evolved into Net-centric/aware warfare. Its so much more efficient and effective than prior means.

When there is a mission that is to be completed of the utmost importance, knowing where your teammates are, where your reinforcements is, what they are equipped with, where they are headed is the difference between Victory and Defeat, Life and Death.

When you are under fire, adrenaline pumping you won't be asking questions like 'How many times faster' or 'I have C2 that can do the same thing', you will want to know what is going on around you and maintain situation awareness by having the best communications equipment available.

What you are saying is that C2 can do the same thing Net-Centric (Link-ZA) comms can. Yes of course, just like Harold Godwinson in the Battle of Hastings in 1066 you can draw on a map, write 30 pages long of descriptive poetry and send your chariot to deliver messages about where artillery and aa-positions are. Its just so much more efficient with Link-ZA.

Please think before you write.

E.g: *note this is exactly what happened during 1999 Chechen War, as a result of repeated ambushes and counter-attacks*
C2:

Platoon Underfire from large-scale enemy assault.
Requires assistance and fire-support
Radios Command
Command is overwhelmed by large number of requests for Fire support and reinforcements
Repeated hails are unanswered
Command is unable to establish a picture about the scenario as they cannot process too much information
Platoon isolated, overcome by enemy attacks

Net-Centric

Platoon Underfire from large-scale enemy assault.
Lasers target for artillery and uses Electronic system to place urgent assistance
Command can see multiple attacks from multiple angles of differing strengths all over front line
Able to ask specific platoons to retreat and sends reinforcements to most vital parts, ensuring enemy does not achieve total breakthrough.
Momentum broken, able to reorganise and counter.

Patchesagain:


That it wasnt a robbery

Which it wasnt - citations have been provided

Even an armed robber that wants to rob a bank needs insider information. This is plain robbery. You have no point.

agaugust:


Your own country reports it as ROBBERY you liar !!

A brazen robbery, possibly involving tens of millions of
rand, at the offices of the State Security Agency has raised
questions about the effectiveness of the organisation tasked
with keeping South Africans safe.
The robbery took place in the early hours of December 26,
but by Sunday [January 3] the agency was unable to say how
much had been stolen; why its Pretoria headquarters were
so insecure that a safe with cash could be broken into; and
the reason for it keeping cash on the premises.

www.african-defense.com/defense-news-2/robbery-at-south-africas-state-security-agency/

SA intel robbed in its homeland ! Shame !

Cant stop laughing....
.

How many times was your soldiers literally robbed by BH in their own homeland?

SA security agency was never literally robbed. The money was stolen just like Dasuki robbed your military $2 billion in its homeland.

agaugust:


That is official corruption NOT armed robbery you dunce !

Its not, the man robbed you day light.

Henry240:


Did the robbers disarm your "highly trained" Agents with sticks?



What's the South-African name for their long sticks with a curved head?

The money was stolen, that was not a robbery per se.

It was a theft.

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/hawks-probe-theft-from-state-security-agency-safe-20160103

Henry240:


When your DSS gets robbed, it means not even your President is safe from criminals.



Wow...... What a bunch of nitwits!

.. And the year is alone just starting. There surely would be more hilarious moments from South-African Security Services.

It is not a DSS dummy. How many times must we say this? The money was as well stolen not robbed. Your flat head is now overloaded with junk, delete some memory to create some space.

US donates MRAPS to the less fortunate.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/07/us-gives-vehicles-to-nigerias-army-as-boko-haram-launches-attacks.html

PICTURES FROM THE HANDING OVER OF THE MRAPS