I believe like General Muhammadu Buhari,GCFR President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, many Nigerians are perplexed as to what they really want. We are talking of a group that totally rejected Buhari at the elections. He has complied with the constitutional requirement and provided them a Minister from every state
In fact in the last 5 years that privilege was not extended to the SW and some Yorubas approached the President then to complain. In fact we discussed here on Nairaland and many Ibos were unanimous in asserting that the Yorubas did not vote fore the president nd deserved to be marginalized

Now the fact is that at that time the Yorubas ACTUALLY DID VOTE for the president and he won the SW though not with the same margin as the SE. He won every SW state except Osun where he was 2nd. This particular fact is important to remember and so I highlight it

PDP won the presidential election in the SW in 2011


Nevertheless the SW has shortchanged and humiliated. Can anyone remember who was the most senior SW person in that government?

Certainly a government the SW had a greater stake in than the SE has in this one.

Did anyone start radio stations or protests in Onicha or threatening to secede.?

Let us look at what was being said at the time (5 years ago how time flies)

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830

Afam4eva:
Al_harem has spoken the truth. You cannot eat your cake and still want to have. PDP controls the center.So, states that will benefit from the center are PDP states. They should go and meet oga Tinubu if they feel marginalized.

As I mentioned earlier PDP won presidential election in the SW so by this statement one can only assume the writer is talking of gubernatorial control

Igbos pls,not ibos.

omonnakoda: this is the original link.

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan#9019830


Small time now, children of hate will come chatting nonsense and this is their true intention for everyone else. Bunch of shameless wailers. In all this, the greater disappointments are the igbos who are scared to call their kin to order.

"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are
punished by being governed by those who are
dumber."--Plato

This is why a clown like Nnamdi Kanu can easily lead
millions to a mirage. The society has been
bequeathed to charlatans.

Portharcourt seaport
Enugu international airport
Second niger bridge
Dredge river niger
Upgrade Aba and onitcha internl mrkts
Resource control
Bring bk confab report
Fight corruption not PDP officials
****

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bugzbunny:
Portharcourt seaport
Enugu international airport
Second niger bridge
Dredge river niger
Upgrade Aba and onitcha internl mrkts
Resource control
Bring bk confab report
Fight corruption not PDP officials
Give a referedum on biafra

Most of the infrastructure projects are legitimate demands but why did you not ask Obasanjo and Jonathan ?
And some are responsibilities of state governments
Since when did FG start upgrading markets?
Dredging the River Niger is not something you can make as a demand because the Niger does not belong to Ibos and technically it is not a realistic project but this is not the place to debate that

As far as Biafra goes you have elected politicians 15 senators a lot more members of the Houses of representatives and 5 state Houses of Assemble as well as Five governors. The question is do those people represent you? If they do channel that demand through them.

I do not see how anything else is different from the antics of Boko Haram

Leaving non Biafrans out of it what evidence is there that so called Biafrans want a referendum? You cannot decide that at Ariaria or Alaba .

Get your state houses of Assemble to pass a motion calling on the FG to hold a referendum and calling on the senate to debate it. Also get them to raise it at the level of their parties APGA PDP APC. How can you have a referendum without that being the agenda or manifesto of a political party This highlighted bit is the crux of the matter. It must come through political channels otherwise take up arms

The just want attention

What do Nigerians want from Igbos.?

omonnakoda:

Most of the infrastructure projects are legitimate demands but why did you not ask Obasanjo and Jonathan ?
And some are responsibilities of state governments
Since when did FG start upgrading markets?
Dredging the River Niger is not something you can make as a demand because the Niger does not belong to Ibos and technically it is not a realistic project but this is not the place to debate that

As far as Biafra goes you have elected politicians 15 senators a lot more members of the Houses of representatives and 5 state Houses of Assemble as well as Five governors. The question is do those people represent you? If they do channel that demand through them.

I do not see how anything else is different from the antics of Boko Haram

Leaving non Biafrans out of it what evidence is there that so called Biafrans want a referendum? You cannot decide that at Ariaria or Alaba .

Get your state houses of Assemble to pass a motion calling on the FG to hold a referendum and calling on the senate to debate it. Also get them to raise it at the level of their parties APGA PDP APC. How can you have a referendum without that being the agenda or manifesto of a political party This highlighted bit is the crux of the matter. It must come through political channels otherwise take up arms

Simple as A B C....infrastructure - fine....resource control - fine....referendum -fine but the proper way... ...what is so difficult in putting these positions forward that we have to have miscreants disturbing our peace....I mean what kind of people are these people...the whole thing makes such little sense that I am beginning to suspect a mental imbalance somewhere... ....even Buhari was so perplexed that he publicly voiced his confusion at this madness... ....

A more pertinent question might be to ask...are these people (IPod youths) normal

ccoolitempa:


Simple as A B C....infrastructure - fine....resource control - fine....referendum -fine but the proper way... ...what is so difficult in putting these positions forward that we have to have miscreants disturbing our peace....I mean what kind of people are these people...the whole thing makes such little sense that I am beginning to suspect a mental imbalance somewhere... ....even Buhari was so perplexed that he publicly voiced his confusion at this madness... ....

A more pertinent question might be to ask...are these people (IPod youths) normal

I am confused

I have not one day heard APGA mention it !! Why so afraid?

Performing governors and political appointees or not self-determination is an inalienable right of a people. Exclusively hyping on performance of selected politicians as the antidote to the quest of a people to self-determination at this critical moment is simply diversionary and mischievous to state the least. 

This argument seems to be predicated on the premise that other governors and politicians are doing excellently better than their SE counterparts. And that is totally false and amounts to a campaign of calumny.

Which of other governors performed creditably better than Chime Sullivan, Peter Obi or Chris Ngige vis-a-vis the available funds at their disposal?

Remember that after the civil war the federal government promised to rehabilitate and reconstruct the Eastern region but subsequent evil governments diverted Gowon’s 3Rs to other regions for neglecting and under-developing the Eastern region for deliberate obvious reasons.

The infallible truth is that the Nigerian system has been so designed to foist notorious crooks on the people and also frustrate credible people from performing.

Acknowledge the simple fact that Igbos fare better than most tribes even with their numerous looting of the commonwealth and great federal government presence. The Igbos have the highest concentration of middle-class citizens while squalor and penury pervade other enclaves. You can see the reality in the shocking manner many of your States are in comatose with many of its civil servants surviving on the good gestures of concerned Nigerians.

With the dwindling crude oil earnings Igbo States are the least affected largely due to the fact that their economy is not crude oil dependent. Fayose of Ekiti government had to send some of its citizens to the SE to learn a skill/trade in a bid to grow the economy of Ekiti State. 

A legitimate agitation by a people for a simple referendum is no way a crime. Reeling out old time war tales with video clips and pictures to your satisfaction reeks of hypocrisy and only meant to divert attention from the crust of the matter to the subterranean.

After a couple of months of silence, the federal government just voiced out by stating that the agitation for Biafra is legitimate, so why have the government invested so much money in evil propaganda and hirelings and targeting and killing over 10 unarmed protesters?

No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.

Come to think of this: Why do you think the government and those who have criminally benefitted and still benefitting from this contraption are quick to threaten war and resort to violence as a means to quelling a genuine agitation as against opting for a simple referendum?

Strange bedfellows, with irreconcilable value systems that are at best suitable for the individual selves, are not meant to be together! The 102 years of existence attest to that verdict!

Victor Hugo once said "no army can stop an idea whose time has come" and that "one can resist the invasion of armies but not the invasion of ideas".

Freedom seekers seek freedom until it's achieved. They don't allow others define them to suit their interest and narratives, or permit the oppressors and abusers of human rights to teach them, the oppressed what human rights are. Once beaten twice shy, they say.

https://www.nairaland.com/2849947/uk-97-biafran-vote-favour

ccoolitempa:

Simple as A B C....infrastructure - fine....resource control - fine....referendum -fine but the proper way... ...what is so difficult in putting these positions forward that we have to have miscreants disturbing our peace....I mean what kind of people are these people...the whole thing makes such little sense that I am beginning to suspect a mental imbalance somewhere... ....even Buhari was so perplexed that he publicly voiced his confusion at this madness... ....
A more pertinent question might be to ask...are these people (IPod youths) normal

U hv an orgasm anytime u hear IpoB
Stewpid almajiri terrorist
U beta face ur amala...ode

I will tell you if you address us properly as IGBOS ..

Buhari tried to find out from Godwin Emefiele what Igbos want: http://www.naijiant.com/photos/buhari-with-christine-lagarde-and-godwin-emefiele-in-aso-rock/

Who are those who have benefitted from this arrangements
1960 Zik and Balewa
1963 Zik and Balew
1979 Shagari and Zik and Ekwueme and Ume Ezeoke

The Yoruba have ALWAYS been in opposition everytime a Northern politician ruled this country and the Ibos have always been in coalition

When a Yoruba politician ruled he surrounded himself with Nigerians from everywhere and many Ibos

BUT

When Jonathan was in power the Ibos were happy so tell us what are the dividends of 99.99% voting

The Ibos were happy to marginalize Yorubas

So please stop all this wailing about marginalization the historical fats do not lie.

There is no absolute right t so called self determination that is a myth Whether in Corsica or Basque country or Uyghurs to name but a few so stop parroting empty slogans. At any rate the reason there must be discussion LIKE ADULTS is we must agree on sovereign debt, future borders,the status and future of River Niger , security and so on. There is no where a country just breaks up without rules about the future. So to move that forward we must have process not rabble making miscreants.To be honest we all want you gone the issue is HOW? and on what terms
I think many people need to have the feeling that Nigerians are keeping them and all that . NO organize yourselves properly you cannot say tat because you are leaving you create an atmosphere of chaos and uncertainty scaring away investors and so on. Do it purposefully and methodically why all the abuse and threats to kill Yorubas on Radio Biafra? You folk are really confused!!

omonnakoda:
I am confused

I have not one day heard APGA mention it !! Why so afraid?

The whole thing is just confusing o...nobody who is serious about seccession acts like these people...seriously...I suspect their elites are embarrassed at the stupidity to which they have exposed the underbelly of the Ibo nation... ...

omonnakoda:
Who are those who have benefitted from this arrangements
1960 Zik and Balewa
1963 Zik and Balew
1979 Shagari and Zik and Ekwueme and Ume Ezeoke

The Yoruba have ALWAYS been in opposition everytime a Northern politician ruled this country and the Ibos have always been in coalition

When a Yoruba politician ruled he surrounded himself with Nigerians from everywhere and many Ibos

BUT

When Jonathan was in power the Ibos were happy so tell us what are the dividends of 99.99% voting

The Ibos were happy to marginalize Yorubas

So please stop all this wailing about marginalization the historical fats do not lie.

There is no absolute right t so called self determination that is a myth Whether in Corsica or Basque country or Uyghurs to name but a few so stop parroting empty slogans. At any rate the reason there must be discussion LIKE ADULTS is we must agree on sovereign debt, future borders,the status and future of River Niger , security and so on. There is no where a country just breaks up without rules about the future. So to move that forward we must have process not rabble making miscreants.To be honest we all want you gone the issue is HOW? and on what terms
I think many people need to have the feeling that Nigerians are keeping them and all that . NO organize yourselves properly you cannot say tat because you are leaving you create an atmosphere of chaos and uncertainty scaring away investors and so on. Do it purposefully and methodically why all the abuse and threats to kill Yorubas on Radio Biafra? You folk are really confused!!

MARGINALISATION OR NOT, a legitimate agitation by a people for a simple referendum is no way a crime. Reeling out and conjuring baseless theories to your satisfaction reeks of hypocrisy and only meant to divert attention from the crust of the matter to the subterranean.

[size=14pt]No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.
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Strange bedfellows, with irreconcilable value systems that are at best suitable for the individual selves, are not meant to be together! The 102 years of existence attest to that verdict!

Victor Hugo once said "no army can stop an idea whose time has come" and that "one can resist the invasion of armies but not the invasion of ideas".

Freedom seekers seek freedom until it's achieved. They don't allow others define them to suit their interest and narratives, or permit the oppressors and abusers of human rights to teach them, the oppressed what human rights are. Once beaten twice shy, they say. 

https://www.nairaland.com/2849947/uk-97-biafran-vote-favour

ccoolitempa:


The whole thing is just confusing o...nobody who is serious about succeeding acts like this people...seriously...I suspect their elites are embarrassed at the stupidity to which they have exposed the underbelly of the Ibo nation... ...

It is a self esteem issue like a b.itch playing the you don't love me game. I reckon a serious peaceful secession from Nigeria would take 5-7 years to achieve but I see no sign of that seriousness just we no go gree ranting. If you are going to argue "self determination" you must gather evidence and the international standard would be POLITICS . Have you tried peaceful means? formed parties and tested your popularity objectively not insulting and bullying people like Nnamdi Kanu on his radio. That is the way to go

[size=18pt]No one has got the moral right to impose on another his/her self-centred way of reasoning.
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Freedom seekers seek freedom until it's achieved. They don't allow others define them to suit their interest and narratives, or permit the oppressors and abusers of human rights to teach them, the oppressed what human rights are. Once beaten twice shy, they say.

bugzbunny:

U hv an orgasm anytime u hear IpoB
Stewpid almajiri terrorist
U beta face ur amala...ode

Don't you have a few cartoons to watch....and then join the early morning jogging exercises labelled 'protest'......lol...

omonnakoda:
It is a self esteem issue like a b.itch playing the you don't love me game. I reckon a serious peaceful secession from Nigeria would take 5-7 years to achieve but I see no sign of that seriousness just we no go gree ranting. If you are going to argue "self determination" you must gather evidence and the international standard would be POLITICS . Have you tried peaceful means? formed parties and tested your popularity objectively not insulting and bullying people like Nnamdi Kanu on his radio. That is the way to go

The crudity of the iPod approach is testament to the fact that they have little solid support other than intimidation....just about every respectable individual or organisation from the SE has disassociated themselves from them.....a bunch of misdirected miscreants seeking seccession without a mandate from the people they purport to represent...idi0ts....

WombRaiders: Yoruba wants one Nijeriya because they are afraid of having us in the better south ( ND and SE) Leave them alone with ab0ki...

Bloody, ass-licking slaves!

omonnakoda:
It is a self esteem issue like a b.itch playing the you don't love me game. I reckon a serious peaceful secession from Nigeria would take 5-7 years to achieve but I see no sign of that seriousness just we no go gree ranting. If you are going to argue "self determination" you must gather evidence and the international standard would be POLITICS . Have you tried peaceful means? formed parties and tested your popularity objectively not insulting and bullying people like Nnamdi Kanu on his radio. That is the way to go

Says some one whose moniker translates to...

Omo Nna (Igbos are referred to as Omo Nna by Yorubas, no harm there..)
Ko da = Igbos are not good.

And you wonder why they don't want to be in the same country as you...

BushidoBlue:




Says some one whose moniker translates to...

Omo Nna (Igbos are referred to as Omo Nna by Yorubas, no harm there..)
Ko da = Igbos are not good.

And you wonder why they don't want to be in the same country as you...

Fair enough....but are they good people...is this behaviour normal...his name is appropriate in my opinion... ...and if they don't seriously want to be in the same country...they know what to do...peacefully...

BushidoBlue:




Says some one whose moniker translates to...

Omo Nna (Igbos are referred to as Omo Nna by Yorubas, no harm there..)
Ko da = Igbos are not good.

And you wonder why they don't want to be in the same country as you...

Blue Murder ..

Thread Closed !


Lalasticlala, there's an Emergency ..

BushidoBlue:




Says some one whose moniker translates to...

Omo Nna (Igbos are referred to as Omo Nna by Yorubas, no harm there..)
Ko da = Igbos are not good.

And you wonder why they don't want to be in the same country as you...

I don't wonder ,can't wait . just do it properly and stop faffing about

Even the chap leading the movement is an embarrassment to the tribe! "Nnamdi kanu?" Even zik for like slap am if possible!

bugzbunny:
Portharcourt seaport
Enugu international airport
Second niger bridge
Dredge river niger
Upgrade Aba and onitcha internl mrkts
Resource control
Bring bk confab report
Fight corruption not PDP officials
****

Nothing's wrong with Portharcourt seaport other than peoples' fear to patronise it due to high rate of sea pirates and militants! No one is stopping ibo from using it though!
2. You should be asking Stella Odua the Enugu' airport question! She was the one at the helm of upgrading the said airport to international airport!
3. Ask your Gov to do the second niger bridge! Lagos did theirs without help from the FG. It was also your biafra men that destroyed the said brigde with their attempt to drown the Nigeria army who were chasing them! That being said, wasn't it Jonathan that promised to build the said bridge in 2011? Hence, go and hold Jonathan whom Ibo cast their vote for!
4. What would dredging River Niger bring to the purse of Nigeria other than waste of money? Are you forgetting it's no atlantic sea and that not only Ibo have access to the said River? The likes of Kogi, Niger etc all had access to the river. Hence, dredging the part of Anambra alone would cause flooding and natural disaster to the aforementioned states!
5. It's not the FG business to upgrade Aba or build international market in Aba, it's the state government business! Gosh! are ibo this dull? Take a clue from Gov. Ambode and Mimikko who are doing well to upgrade the market in their state!
6. If an Ibo man, Ironsi hadn't destroyed our true federalism in the first place and plunged us into this hell, there wouldn't any reason for that!
7. Read this report www.theunion.com.ng/politics/why-regionalism-state-police-agitation-failed/ and tell me if wasn't your kinsman that sabotaged the confab.
8. How about the ApC man that was recently nabbed by the EFCC?
9. You know the best way to go about! Ask the ibo senators in the house to pass the referendum bill! Inciting people and making hate speeches would only bring ibo trouble!

Ibos are the most unfair, and most selfish tribe in this country. Nigeria was wonderful when they held the center and their 'son' GEJ was in control. Now the country is a Zoo. What a bunch of losers! I am extremely proud to be Yoruba! SMH

omonnakoda:

Most of the infrastructure projects are legitimate demands but why did you not ask Obasanjo and Jonathan ?
And some are responsibilities of state governments
Since when did FG start upgrading markets?
Dredging the River Niger is not something you can make as a demand because the Niger does not belong to Ibos and technically it is not a realistic project but this is not the place to debate that

As far as Biafra goes you have elected politicians 15 senators a lot more members of the Houses of representatives and 5 state Houses of Assemble as well as Five governors. The question is do those people represent you? If they do channel that demand through them.

I do not see how anything else is different from the antics of Boko Haram

Leaving non Biafrans out of it what evidence is there that so called Biafrans want a referendum? You cannot decide that at Ariaria or Alaba .

Get your state houses of Assemble to pass a motion calling on the FG to hold a referendum and calling on the senate to debate it. Also get them to raise it at the level of their parties APGA PDP APC. How can you have a referendum without that being the agenda or manifesto of a political party This highlighted bit is the crux of the matter. It must come through political channels otherwise take up arms

We didn't ask obj and GEJ to grant all this cos we love baba. He can do it for us