Slimzjoe:


In the La_liga, just 3 Clubs start the Season with the Mindset of Challenging for the Title.
The Rest are content with Places in Europe.


Those Players you Just mentioned where not Poaching in Real sense. Cos they where not Signed for Direct Challengers.
Shaw,Schniderlin-Southampton /Okay with just European Place
Rooney-Signed When Everton where nowhere Near the Competiting with the Best in England
Carrick-Tottenham/ where not Title Challengers at the time
Valencia,Young,Jones,Smalling- All signed From Lowly Clubs with the Last 3, signed just to boost the English Quota in the Team.


Bayern Signing Lewandoski ,Gotze is what is Called Poaching mehn....Signing from your Direct and Main Opposition.

airmark:


Go and check my posts on hazard and neymar. I was defending hazard based on his efforts last season and my argument was about neymar wriggling through the rigours of epl. I never said neymar was nt a great player. Don't play smart game here bro.



Ramos deserves it. He has a great 2015. Unless you will tell me pique does n't deserve it. This season so far he is a better defender, despite playing fewer matches. That's why he is your la liga best defender for 2015. Don't lemme have a rethink about your football knowledge and objectivity.

Slimzjoe:


We all know the Winner of the Seria-A would be Inter milan or Juve and the La-Liga would be Between Barca , Madrid and Atletico.

While the EPL never has a Definite Winner until the Final Days. Last season being an Exception

Slimzjoe:


Baba, try Compare Top4 Teams Difference and not Top2

raumdeuter:


How do you know teams who start with a mindset to win. You mean Valencia doesnt start season with a mindset to win? WHo a re these teams in EPL that start with a mindset to win

How is Man Utd signing van persie and mata different? Or chelsea signing Ashley Cole or City signing Adebayor, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna different

I think I've Started an Argument I can't Finish

Arsenal where not Title Challengers then
And yes. Valencia and Sevilla simply Want to Finish 3rd of 4th

dmcdad:

Why must top 4 be the yardstick? Why not any other measure? Top 2? Top 6? Top 8? Must it always be top 4?

dmcdad:

Are you serious? Ahh... Two seasons ago what was the situation like in EPL? And what was it like in Spain? Tell me...

Slimzjoe:


Don't bring Statistics into this Else it will be Safe to say Lucas Leiva was the Best DM in Europe 2011/2012

Slimzjoe:

I think I've Started an Argument I can't Finish
Arsenal where not Title Challengers then And yes. Valencia and Sevilla simply Want to Finish 3rd of 4th

Slimzjoe:


Atletico won it on the Last day which Rarely Happens. Also, what happened to the Manager in charge of Barca that season? Eh?

Slimzjoe:


Good! Now Compare the Top10 or better still the Winner and the Bottom team. That will reveal more.
Top2 doesn't always tell the story

Slimzjoe:


I think I've Started an Argument I can't Finish

Arsenal where not Title Challengers then
And yes. Valencia and Sevilla simply Want to Finish 3rd of 4th

dmcdad:

Was Barça’s manager the only issue? Then why did Madrid not sack Ancelotti? Since you wanna tell me that was the reason we sacked Martino.

Slimzjoe:

Every Darn season, Barca and Madrid Hardly Loose more than 7games in the League And that's because they're Competing Against Weak Teams!

dmcdad:

If you check the top 10, how is EPL any better than La Liga then?

raumdeuter:

If Arsenal is not a title challengers then who are the title challengers you told us about in EPL that are more than La Liga

Slimzjoe:

Every Darn season, Barca and Madrid Hardly Loose more than 7games in the League And that's because they're Competing Against Weak Teams!

dmcdad:

Don't you think if our league ain't competitive, that it would affect us in Europe too? PSG comes to mind here.

And how come the top 3 in Spain would easily oust any EPL team?

Slimzjoe:


No team Immediately Sacks a Manager who won the La Decima Bro

raumdeuter:


You have changed the criteria for measuring competitive at least 5 different time and almost every time, Facts have shown you are not right

Last yr chelsea lost 3, Barcelona lost 4

That's just a one Off

Slimzjoe:


The Point Difference!! Its always Fewer In the EPL than other European Leagues.


As at the Time when those Players where Leaving, Arsenal where Merely a Team Focused on Doing a valencia and Sevilla in the EPL

dmcdad:

And yet Perez had sacked coaches who own him the league. Let's not even go there because you wanna shift the goalpost and I won't allow that.

Don't tell me you're the only one who doesn't know that Perez is Obsessed with The UCL

raumdeuter:


Sagna still left Arsenal last yr, If you are saying Arsenal is like valencia recently, then who are these teams competing in the EPL you told us about?

Sagna gave the Excuse of Serving at a Place for too long and Club not being Ambitious Enough

Let's bring This Season and the Last into Consideration

Both manchester clubs, Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea.
That's Six teams Man

Slimzjoe:

Every Darn season, Barca and Madrid Hardly Loose more than 7games in the League And that's because they're Competing Against Weak Teams!

Slimzjoe:


Let's bring This Season and the Last into Consideration

Both manchester clubs, Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea.
That's Six teams Man

raumdeuter:


Show me any EPL winner that has lost more than 7 league games in the past 5 yrs

I didn't Say just Winners

Chelsea Finished 3rd in 2013 and Still Lost 7Games Exactly...Maybe I shoulda used 5games

raumdeuter:


So Chelsea is competing from 14th position?

Liverpool too is competing, but Sevilla and Valencia are not competing

This season at different times madrid, barcelona, Clta Vigo, Villareal Atletico have topped the LA liga table

Whats making Chelsea Spurs Liverpool competing but not Sevilla, Villareal, Deportivo, Bilbao?

Slimzjoe:


I didn't Say just Winners

Chelsea Finished 3rd in 2013 and Still Lost 7Games Exactly...Maybe I shoulda used 5games

Slimzjoe:


I get where you're Going man.
But let me just say this. Can you Place your Money on Any of those Aformentioned teams to win the La_Liga or even beat Either of Madrid or Barca? We both know the answer

Slimzjoe:


As a matter of Fact, if your League is Weak, it gives Teams the chance of Resting and Preparing there Star Players Well.
A Luxury EPL teams can only Dream about.

raumdeuter:


In that same 2013, Atletico finished 3rd losing 8 games

Slimzjoe:


I get where you're Going man.
But let me just say this. Can you Place your Money on Any of those Aformentioned teams to win the La_Liga or even beat Either of Madrid or Barca? We both know the answer