Henry240:


By an out-dated link posted by a Soweto clown?....... No, i'm not.

So 3 years = outdated?

jln115:
So 3 years = outdated?

Are you kidding me?

jln115:

So 3 years = outdated?

Its actually 4 years.

iblawi:

Its actually 4 years.

No its 3

Henry240:


Are you kidding me?

Ok buddy, so you have no problem bringing up the battle of Bangui debate when ever you feel like it, but when I bring up something from +- the same timeframe you call it outdated? Cool story bro!!

jln115:

Ok buddy, so you have no problem bringing up the battle of Bangui debate when ever you feel like it, but when I bring up something from +- the same timeframe you call it outdated? Cool story bro!!

No correlation between the two.

Henry240:


No correlation between the two.

There is huge correlation. Both are from the past.

Henry240:


No correlation between the two.

Wow!! How convienient.....just moving the goal posts to suit you??

Hi guys,

Im from pakistan.

Just read that people are calling jf-17 3rd gen.

It is chinese 3rd gen which is equivalent to 4th gen.

The chinese also consider j-10 3rd gen.

They skipped a generation.

Sahuchak:
Hi guys,

Im from pakistan.

Just read that people are calling jf-17 3rd gen.

It is chinese 3rd gen which is equivalent to 4th gen.

The chinese also consider j-10 3rd gen.

They skipped a generation.

So how does Pakistan classify fighter?

The block 2 is 4th gen fighter for pakistan.

Latest J-10b is 4.5 gen.

Sahuchak:
Hi guys,
Im from pakistan.
Just read that people are calling jf-17 3rd gen.
It is chinese 3rd gen which is equivalent to 4th gen.
The chinese also consider j-10 3rd gen.
They skipped a generation.

It's the South-Africans...... They are always jelly!

Sahuchak:
The block 2 is 4th gen fighter for pakistan.

Latest J-10b is 4.5 gen.

According to JLN115,

A fighter which has,

- Fly by wire

- Improved Avionics

- EW capability

- Air-Air capability

- MFDs

Is a 3rd GEN jet.

.....You're left to wonder what they teach these m0rons in South-African schools.

Sahuchak:
The block 2 is 4th gen fighter for pakistan.

Latest J-10b is 4.5 gen.

If so! Then why are PAC classifying the JF17 as 3rd Gen?

Biggest reason pakistan developed jf-17 with china is there is no worry of sanctions.

We can do whatever we like with it including improving it to 4.5 gen by including aesa radar etc.

Nigeria will have no worries of china or pakistan sanctioning nigeria cause of western pressure.

If nigeria want they can also produce locally.

Henry240:


According to JLN115,

A fighter which has,

- Fly by wire

- Improved Avionics

- EW capability

- Air-Air capability

- MFDs

Is a 3rd GEN jet.

.....You're left to wonder what they teach these m0rons in South-African schools.

Not according to me.....I just quoted PAC!!

jln115:

If so! Then why are PAC classifying the JF17 as 3rd Gen?

They are sticking to the chinese classification.

World doesnt revolve around the west for us.

jln115:
Not according to me.....I just quoted PAC!!

So you can't think independently?

jln115:

Not according to me.....I just quoted PAC!!

Its a joint venture with china. They class jf-17 and j-10 as 3rd gen so pac does too.

Its a 4th gen fighter.

China skipped a generation.

Sahuchak:


They are sticking to the chinese classification.

World doesnt revolve around the west for us.

Doesn't make sense considering it was marketed to Western countries as well!

Henry240:


So you can't think independently?

Exactly,

PAC and china can use whatever classification they want. Doesnt change the fact that our pilots say its on par with f-16c/d.

Would they lie?

And why would we be producing 250 fighters?

jln115:

Doesn't make sense considering it was marketed to Western countries as well!

Which western countries?

It was made to replace 2nd/3rd fighters in developing nations.

Henry240:


So you can't think independently?

http://www.janes.com/article/56924/pakistan-pushes-for-jf-17-sale-to-sri-lanka

Guess Jane's Defence can't think independently as well?

What's in the hump in F-16 block 52 models

Sahuchak:


Which western countries?

It was made to replace 2nd/3rd fighters in developing nations.

Bulgaria and Argentina.

Sahuchak:


Exactly,

PAC and china can use whatever classification they want. Doesnt change the fact that our pilots say its on par with f-16c/d.

Would they lie?

And why would we be producing 250 fighters?

250 "3rd generation" fighters to face fleets of Indian SU-30MKIs/Mirages doesn't make any sense either.

The f-5 and f-4 are 3rd gen fighters.

The latest mig-21 are 3rd gen fighters.

None are bvr capable like jf-17.

The early f-16s are not bvr capable either and they classified as 4th.

Henry240:
What's in the hump in F-16 block 52 models

Cancer!!!!.....just joking haha does are fuel tanks.

Sahuchak:
Biggest reason pakistan developed jf-17 with china is there is no worry of sanctions.

We can do whatever we like with it including improving it to 4.5 gen by including aesa radar etc.

Nigeria will have no worries of china or pakistan sanctioning nigeria cause of western pressure.

If nigeria want they can also produce locally.

The Nigeria Air Force has very close relationship with the Pakistani Air Force. It was always obvious that Nigeria was going to get the JF-17s.

We should procure at-least 24 jets, we are probably waiting for the trainer versions to come on stream.


The only problem i see is, Pakistan really doesn't have the credit line to support a huge Nigerian purchase. It would mean we might be getting the FC-1s instead.

Henry240:


250 "3rd generation" fighters to face fleets of Indian SU-30MKIs/Mirages doesn't make any sense either.

250 fighters to face lca tejas.

F-16 block 50 for mid range.

J-31 will be our top line fighter.

We are replacing all our f-7s and mirage first. We shall wait till china develops their top line fighters. We dont need sanctions.

jln115:

Cancer!!!!.....just joking haha does are fuel tanks.

Mumu...... Thanks. I always wondered what they are. Aesthetically they give the F-16 a more "macho/bullish" look.

Henry240:


The Nigeria Air Force has very close relationship with the Pakistani Air Force. It was always obvious that Nigeria was going to get the JF-17s.

We should procure at-least 24 jets, we are probably waiting for the trainer versions to come on stream.


The only problem i see is, Pakistan really doesn't have the credit line to support a huge Nigerian purchase. It would mean we might be getting the FC-1s instead.

Its a joint venture with china. Whoever produces it, china will give the credit line.