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Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Cityguy: 6:32pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
I lived in Sokoto 9 good years. They have very very pretty ladies who dressed moderately and are no less 'religious'. They carried themselves elegantly and we're decent in their discourse. Yes they used hijab and that was ok for them. I can say that the few I saw using that total, black stuff with stockings were my people- you know nam everything in excess, the oversabi ones. I'm not sure anyone would stop to harrass any sister with that moderate hijab. It must have been that one that leaves only the eyes. I. Try not to comment on such issues cos it's sensitive but we need to realise that where our own liberty ends, other's might start there. Liberty to dress should not compromise the liberty of others to safety and life. Let abuse and bashings start now..1...2...Oya go!!! 1 Like |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by rhames(m): 6:39pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
lolaxavier: Nigeria is the only country that has not banned Hijab and Niqab in hw whole of the West African region since the Mali hotel attacks. Will it be too extreme to obey the law under these circumstances of ours where a person will just destroy lives and property in the name of religion? Let us consider that pleasse. Even in the most Muslim of countries, religious laws are bent to sometimes for the security of lives and property. There are other ways to be religiously and modestly dressed not only in this mode only. A woman can just use a simple long veil to cover her body. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by serikiYCU(m): 6:45pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
SirJeffry: How about banning police uniform since some harm robber use it to impersonate police to perpetuate their evil act? |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by mostyg(m): 6:46pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Before the boko boys started disguising using hijab weren't they bombing? Few days ago some robbers in police uniform were arrested after raping some female corpers. Should the police uniform also be banned? 1 Like |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by serikiYCU(m): 6:49pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
tonytony208: because some other countries banned it, Nigeria 2 shld do same even if it's nt d solutn? Cutting off d head is nt d solutn to headache. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by aribisala0(m): 6:49pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
jomoh: What does the word BOSOM mean please consult a dictionary the last time I checked mine it meant breast not face or head. With regard to the word HIJAB pay attention to the following transliteration of the Ayah you quoted the word HIJAB does not appear in it. Drawing veil over bosoms refers to covering unclothedness and not faces wanaqul lal nisa' almuminin 'ann yaghdudn min 'absarihinn w takun mutawadieat , w 'iilaa eard min zinatahunn 'illa ma hu wadih , w rusim hijjabuhunn ealaa suduruhum , w lays yubdin zinatahunn hifz lirijalihinn 'aw abayihinn 'aw 'azwajahunn " alaba' , 'aw 'abna'ahum 'aw " 'abna'an , 'aw 'iikhwanahum 'aw 'iikhwanahum 'abna' 'azwajahunn 'aw 'abnayihinn al'akhuat , 'aw alnnisa' , 'aw aleabid , 'aw alhudur aldhdhukur alladhin yaftaqirun 'iilaa quwwat , 'aw al'atfal aldhyn la yaerifun shay' min eawrat almar'a. wajealhum la khatam 'aqdamahum wdhlk l yaelam ma yukhfin min zinatihinn . wabidawrih lillah maeaan, 'ayuha almuminun , min ajl 'iin kuntum qad tanjah . Go and study your religion properly. Every surah has a context and is not necessarily meant to be taken literally by all humanity for all time. If you understand context you will not argue blindly It says do not display EXCEPT that which must ordinarily appear thereof as you quote or other translations provide: not to display their adornment34 except that which is displayed of itself Do the breast or private parts "ordinarily appear thereof" what about the face and head? The word EXCEPT makes it clear it is NOT the entire body that is expected to be covered as some argue Anyhow I do not see the word; HIJAB In human society without a face a person has NO IDENTITY . If someone takes an exam borrows money commits a crime and has never been seen who can identify or testify against them? In fact you cannot even know the person . So if I live on the same street with a woman for 10 years because she is a Muslim I cannot recognize her if I see her in another town committing a crime without the veil? That is not acceptable in the modern world. We must be able to identify every person for good security to avoid crimes of all kinds whether impersonation(the scenarios are limitless), terrorism or whatever 3 Likes |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by serikiYCU(m): 6:52pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
TonyeBarcanista: Thank u. Tell dem to stop being sentimental. Oribibe kologun orififo (cutting off d head is nt d medicine for headache) |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Kennedyiheme: 6:52pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
BetaThings:islam is not a problem to this country? Do u live in nigeria? Boko haram are christians right? People dat recite verses from the quran, saying allah asked them to kill. All terorist are muslims, osama, sadam hussein, shekau. My brother islam is a big problem. No offense though |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Obas101(m): 6:57pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
INTROVERT:U dey yearn trash..dont say wot u don't know. Nikob nd hijab are two different things, u are referring to the Nikob. It covers all d body including d face nd d reason y ladies do dat is to keep themselves from prying eyes (men). If it were 4 dust d men wuld av been covering their faces too.. So get dat rytryt |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by aribisala0(m): 7:02pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
e] The purpose is not only prevention but detection and prosecution. People should be able to identify members of their community to ensure security. Theoretically a Muslim girl can marry at 13 and be in Purdah till she dies. If she removes her veil to commit a crime when she is 30 years old who will recognize her? Many people will not know what she looks like. Can she take exams with veil? If so someone else can take it for her maybe? There are countless scenarios of impersonation. In today's CCTV world we want to be able to review footage of crimes for clues and to track accomplices so we cannot risk the anonymity of face veils in public. Countless crimes have been solved with CCTV and the potential for abuse of veils is not tolerable. I do not believe banning veils will stop suicide bombings but security considerations may require the banning in strategic locations. I would not advocate an outright ban but certainly at a petrol station e.g or banks NO NO!!! |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Kunlexic(m): 7:23pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Shaftrod:it is good to say ur opinion bro....#NoQualms |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by aribisala0(m): 7:28pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
There is a certain logical contradiction here . People are arguing that banning is an overreaction and we cannot BAN everything as a solution to problems. This is superficially strong and persuasive until we realize the veil is itself another BAN intended to prevent men from being unduly aroused. So one may as well ask the very same question is banning the seeing of women the solution to the problem.Should men not learn to control themselves better? We cannot pretend that it(wearing veil) is not a ban it is as can be observed anywhere "TRUE" Sharia is practised. Let us not feel smug about arguments with weak buttresses |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Abdulhakeem7(m): 7:53pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
INTROVERT:I oftentimes find it hard to believe dat people are not labeling the mini skirts and spaghetti tops wearers extremists in immoral dressing but are fast to label d muslims female extremists for wearing their hijab. While d former wear theirs for no reasonable reason,the latter wear theirs for modesty and obeying their Creator. Moreover,can't d muslim females have their fundamental human right to wear what they wish to wear?and u INTROVERT, it will be better for u to face ur jobless business of FTC on NL and stay out of dis hijab issue. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Trustworthiness: 7:54pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
SirJeffry: From your logical reasoning, the FG should ban wearing of police uniform and army uniform because some disgruntled elements in the society used the uniform to rob others and also used by politicians to kill their fellow opposition. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Abdulhakeem7(m): 8:11pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
rhames:And many countries around d globe are making developmental plans that are transforming their economy in d positive side and none of dis exist in ur country and u're not concerned but u're concerned dat some nations have banned d public wearing of hijab and shld so in ur country too. SMH |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
noblegrex:it's not just right men! they will also ban agbadB- they should ban labcoats, they should ban wedding gowns. if they wanna do something then it should be all round, their fear is concealing of bomb right? ok, how many times have they off-loaded all these trucks that transport scrap metals (junk)? is that not another way of transporting...? what of the ones that transport fertilizers? bombs could also be implanted carefully in cattles, will they also prevent cattle rustling? now, let's come down to my eastern Zone. what of those who tie heavy wrappers? will they also ban them? at what level or thickness is it ok to wear these? |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Abdulhakeem7(m): 8:13pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
TonyeBarcanista:u're on point bro |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Lilimax(f): 8:17pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
I'm afraid of those masquerade wearers whenever I see them 1 Like |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Abdulhakeem7(m): 8:27pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
mars123:Now let me ask u dis,pls can u tell me how many lives were lost to motor accidents in 2015 alone?do we now ban d usage of motor vehicles to prevent accidents?den how do we prevent accidents?we sensitize d drivers on safety measures. So let d FG sensitize d ppl of d N/East and provide enough security in d region to prevent free movement of suicide bombers |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Trustworthiness: 8:27pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
INTROVERT: The wearing of hijab is part of Islam and not an act of extremism. If Aisha Buhari is not using the hijab, that doesn't mean others should not use it. God has created man with choice. Your choice will determine your final abode in the Hereafter. God almighty have created Paradise and hellfire, and He has send several messengers to deliver His messages to mankind. The messages of path to paradise and path to hellfire. But we have the choice to make and decide what we want. No compulsion in religion. The use of hijab is clearly stated in the Quran and it is not a culture of the Arab as a result of desert sand. And if it is as a result of sand, why is it for the women and not the men using it as well. So, being obedient to God commandments is never an act of extremism in Islam. It will only be an act of extremism if you that is using it want to force others that choose not to make the choice of using the hijab. Because, in religion of Islam and it is clearly stated in the Quran, there is no compulsion in the matter of the religion . You can not force others to practice what you are practicing. The choice is yours and not others. If Aisha Buhari decided not to follow the commandments of God as stated in the Quran, the choice is hers. She is not the mentor or yardstick to follow in ones practice of the religion of Islam. The paradise has been created. It will be filled with human that made the right choice and heed to God's warns by following the commandments of God. The hellfire as well has been created. It will also be fill with humans that made the wrong choice and chose not to heed to God's warning. You will decide where you belong through the choice you made. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by closearms(m): 8:34pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
INTROVERT: sometimes people just want to talk because they have privileges.. you know noting about the hijab ... stop spreading your ignorance ,,,,,,for cheap. glory from misinformed people .... ( That Aisha is the first lady dont make her know it all ... ... |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by connkg(m): 8:35pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
I've read a lot here. An armed security operative has a number of minutes to identify and classify a threat. The operative is on an operation, authorising him to be armed. Tinted car windows now require a license. If operatives can identify a fake service uniform from a distance, great. If not, questioning and code-words follow. The hijab/niqab can delay identification. If the nun's robe is the preferred choice, let it be standard, sewn close to body, so operatives can classify a possible IED threat. If there are suggestions, let muslims state. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by geesilver(m): 8:47pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
manutdadex:What of the use of khaaki, its also a problem in the north cos we don't know who is who. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by noblegrex: 8:53pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
shadowgwalker:mr oga.what are you saying. It doesn't sound meaningful to me. Can't really figure it out because I can't see any reasonable reason in all you listed. No connections at all. Is that your HIJAB not banned in NYSC camp? Not even because of the BOKO H stuff but that hijab of a thing is so disgusting. Its a very LOCAL way of covering their body. So PRIMITIVE,COLLOQUIA,OBSOLETE and uneducative way of life gosh... So uncivilized. Are there no better ways to do that. What's the meaning I ask. Infact they look like ghost in it. Some kids cry so hard at the sight of them.even dogs do back at them.its so so like slavery to me. No sense making at all. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by geesilver(m): 8:56pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
babajero:Same way they use khaaki to commit havoc, all in the name of disguise. My people say the law that bind masquerade also bind veil users. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by geesilver(m): 9:00pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
manutdadex:without banning Hijab, boko boys have been restricted to the bother, why ban hijab again when you have no concrete reasons. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Nobody: 9:09pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
If, according to your argument, the Niqab/Hijab is a borrowed culture from the "desert" part of the world to protect against sand & dust, then why don't the male counterparts in such places cover their faces/hands too Abi the men there no get face and body to protect? See, until y'all start realizing that the Hijab/Niqab is an injunction from the "Muslim" God for His female believers to follow/use to protect their modesty, you'd keep making illogical statements like below. Perhaps, you need to "read" more. Since Boko Haram wears Army fatigues too; to disguise and wreak havoc, should the goverment ban the Army from wearing same? Shalom INTROVERT: |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by nduchucks: 9:18pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Those foolish soldiers will not dare to touch these hijabs |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Yeah! The Hijab is so primitive, so uncivilized, so obsolete and so local a way of covering the body like the Catholic sisters does, like the CCC and C&S attire too. Why can't we all dress like the Rihannas and Kim Kardashians? The heck! Why can't we just stop covering our bodies? At least, the animals don't; and last time I checked, you and your family are animals. Oh, "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others", right? i.e your comment below lacked reasonable logic. noblegrex: |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by manutdadex(m): 9:23pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
geesilver:banning ijab is because of suicide bombers using ijab to cover. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by INTROVERT(f): 9:23pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Abdulhakeem7: Are you aware that all the spagehrri type dressing have been banned from all federal universities in Nigeria, talk less of private universities. That means that you cannot just wear such trash in campus and even if you are bold enough to wear it outside, you will be looked at as an irresponsible lady. As for my joblessness, God bless you. |
Re: Soldiers Remove Veil From Muslim In Lagos - The whistle by INTROVERT(f): 9:30pm On Jan 10, 2016 |
Trustworthiness: Thanks, you have explained well and enlightened me more. |
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