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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:34am On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: Live in your Disney land while we will live with reality. After all it is your right to choose to live where you want and you choice Disney world. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:06am On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: Can somebody allow me to kill agaugust with his outdated 2011 source. Now here I quote. The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms. Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. Some of the reasons for interoperability inconsistencies are discussed below. No interoperability strategy. In the requirements, specifications and development philosophies of SDPP platforms no consideration was given to utilising platforms as an integrated joint capability, thus concluding that no clear strategy or owner was driving crosscutting project capability requirements for Network Enabled Defence. Standard evolution. It was assumed that using a single standard would ensure interoperability between platforms. I close the quote. So, did you consider the words highlighted in italics and did you ask yourself what was the outcome when a single standard was used. The source basically concentrates on how did the SA indigenous TDL came about and what challenges they faced. Remember, the final SDPP acquisitions was in 2010 when the last batch of Gripens were delivered and all platforms were in the process of being converted to become LINK ZA compliant. Now we are not in 2011 and we have moved faster. Reutech still manufactures LINK ZA equipments for SANDF as at today in 2016. So do you mean Reutech is wasting their time and investment if there was no such thing as LINK ZA? I know that your plan is to neutralise this hype of South Africa possessing TDL technology while our counterpart Nigeria is still lacking behind. However, all your noise making will never take away SA TDL technology that it happen to breakthrough in 2012. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:15am On Jan 11, 2016 |
2012 was the year of South Africa after it struggles for thirteen years to bring about the first indigenous TDL. They finally made it. Now, here ladies and gentlement, South Africa officially made it and join only few countries in the world who have TDL capabilities. SOUTH AFRICA FINALLY JOINS THE TDL CLUB. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/south-africa-joins-the-tdl-club/ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:30am On Jan 11, 2016 |
In 2010 Gripen was not yet fully commissioned but was temporarily taking on security assignment. http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/print-version/new-saaf-fighter-is-delivering-the-goods-2010-09-01 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:48am On Jan 11, 2016 |
jln115:"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city." |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51am On Jan 11, 2016 |
jln115: They were the journalists on the ground, they and other news networks on the ground were unanimous in there verdict...... SANDF troops took a beating and fled. Reading sordid tales of defeated soldiers isn't actually my forte. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:03am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240: No single source says that they fled, or even that the broke Seeking assistance means many things Yet again you are trying very hard to create a narrative that simply does not exist 5 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:07am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240: Please provide us with your source and if you can't we will consider it that you lied. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:49am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240: That's a lie because SANDF troops never even attempted to block their (rebels) way to the city. SANDF knew their mandate well that their mission was to offer training and not for offensive. Seleka rebels decided on their own to attack SANDF until they backed down because of resistance they never expected from just 200 troops. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:56am On Jan 11, 2016 |
patches689: - All sources show you fled. SANDF troops took a beating, they they ran away. "A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country." http://mobile.reuters.com/article/ idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932 "Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports." "Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport." 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:25am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240: 1. So a "beating" is 13 dead? 6% casualties? 2. Where does it say anything about them running away How is 200 men being driven back by upwards of 3000 mem, who were stopped dead for 13 hours and who inflicted over 400 casualties shamefull? Meanwhile, your army of 20 000 men with tanks/artillery/jets/attack helicopters got pushes out of over 46 towns and cities by less than 4000 BH Now that is humiliating 8 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:40am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Ratel tank destroyer. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:43am On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240: Your source is not in order sir. It does not want to support your wildest expectations and lies. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240:just read the fvckinh book!! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
Hungry South-African intelligence Agents stealing computers!! Buhahahahahahahahahaha......... Laptops stolen from SA defence force Written by ITWeb, Monday, 11 January 2016 South Africa's National Defence Force (SANDF) suffered a security breach when 50 computers were stolen from defence intelligence headquarters, according to the City Press. The newspaper reports several SANDF employees linked to the theft scandal were taken in for questioning, while others were subjected to lie detectors. Defence department spokesperson Siphiwe Dlamini confirmed the computers had been stolen, but did not divulge details, due to an "intensive" investigation led by the defence intelligence (DI) and military police, reports the newspaper. An undisclosed number of new laptop computers were stolen from the DI's headquarters in the Liberty Life Building in Madiba Street, Pretoria, Dlamini told the paper. However, it is understood at least 50 computers were stolen in batches. According to Dlamini, the computers had no sensitive information on them. The devices are said to have disappeared just after they were delivered – before they could even be recorded on the department's inventory, reports the City Press. "Therefore, it is unclear who took responsibility for them," said Dlamini. The theft happened on the same Christmas weekend as R17 million worth of foreign currency was taken from the State Security Agency (SSA). 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
jln115: I should read the tales of your poorly trained and roundly defeated troops......... That's pure agony, not gonna happen. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:20pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
patches689: There is NO SINGLE MENTION of Link ZA in that source-less source that you posted with no weblink. The story talks about SAAF-SAN mobile communications and TELKOM.....LOL.....TELKOM is just like MTN...LOL ![]() ![]() Thanks for proving me right..... SANDF Tactical Data Link ZA = Basic intercom service like TELKOM and MTN according to your own source ! . 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
patches689: -14 dead, fleeing, and a fall of a government = beating - "Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."..... Here! - Nigerian troops dominate the entire N.E! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:36pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
FighterPilot: Did you go to school and write exams by yourself or you paid a 'mercenary' to write exams for you to pass ? Your story is complete grabage, the paragraph was cut off by you, you removed the top part of the paragraph, here is the full paragraph : "Some of the reasons for interoperability inconsistencies are discussed below : No interoperability strategy . In the requirements, specifications and development philosophies of SDPP platforms no consideration was given to utilising platforms as an integrated joint capability, thus concluding that no clear strategy or owner was driving crosscutting project capability requirements for Network Enabled Defence. Standard evolution . It was assumed that using a single standard would ensure interoperability between platforms. " " The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms. Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. " http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf The paragraph is actually reporting that the reasons that made Link ZA to fail.....the second reason above is Standard Evolution...an assumed idea that was assumed will make all platforms interoperable, but it disappointed and the assumption failed ! Fool, the report says the STANDARD EVOLUTION assumption is the second reason for the failure of Link ZA, then your retaaaarded skull thinks it was a means of success. You Southie guys CANNOT escape this embarrassment and national disappointment... Link Za Tactical Data Link FAILED, your SANDF got mere intercom that MTN can provide cheap !!! ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240:Read the book. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:53pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
patches689: Nope, it's not humiliation, its war. Everybody dies, loses land, regains land, that is war. Show us a proof that Boko Haram has only 4,000 men spread across land the size of Scotland....prove your numbers with source ! Boka Had about 500 men in each of those 46 towns and extra men inside Sambisa forest, and two other forests. 500 men x 46 towns alone = 23,000 men.....add the thousands in their Sambisa and other forests...Boko had about 30,000 fighters. Boko Haram occupied 46 towns for ONLY 3 MONTHS.... = Nigerian army flushed them out of 46 towns in 46 days thus establishing a new world record of Blitzkrieg combat skills = Boko Haram occupied 46 Nigerian towns, Nigerian army tunred those towns into the graveyard of those Bokos. = Our army made Boko Haram pay with their lives for that adventure into 46 towns, it cost them their lives, they are dead ! = Nigeria's flag flies in ALL those 46 towns today, Bokos are in their untimely death induced untimely grave. .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:14pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: The history will never change no matter what. It will be written in the history books that Nigerian army was once defeated by mere 4000 bandits to the extend of even literally running to seek refuge to the neighbouring countries. That will be ingraved and never be forgotten. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:17pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: Still the source belong to 2011 and in 2012 link ZA became a success. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:29pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: Somebody please allow me to embarrass this Nigerian fool. Look here this source was obtained from the CSIR and is incomplete. What you have sourced is only introduction of the whole research which is basically about how South Africa came to develop its own indigenous TDL. The question is have you read the whole research project? Did you know what happened when South African companies applied other approach to achieve interoperability between platforms? That which you are making a noise about was just a drop in an ocean of what the research will be based upon. We all did not have the full details of the project and how did the story end. But what I know as in today is that South Africa has fully operational tactical data link which shares data between all platfoms and is called LINK ZA. You can buy yourself the whole book about that same story and stop making wildest assumption of how the research ended. I paste it for your convenience. That is if you are willing to pay for the book. I have already downloaded it. Read it and see where the duo concluded that it was a success. http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=507743762209836;res=IELENG 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:02pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
FighterPilot: There is NOTHING in your weblink that says Link Za works as a TDL, your weblink is talking about a book on SANDF data link for sale online at $4, there is NO PLACE where it says your data link succeeded. SANDF is fückïng around with INTERCOM that TELKOM & MTN can provide, ya gat no tactical data link Za, ya gotta basic intercom expanded on your equipment ![]() ![]() FINITO, case closed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:20pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
agaugust: Let me kill this fool with a final bullet on the forehead. Here is a complete journal. This researcher is stingy and can't pay and here I share the source http://researchspace.csir.co.za/dspace/bitstream/10204/5355/1/Smith4_2011.pdf 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:27pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
jln115:"Read what book?". |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240:
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
jln115: It's in quotes dummy....... The events that transpired after the encounter is all the evidence i require. - SANDF troops brushed aside - SANDF troops flee - SELEKA takes over bangui. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
Henry240:Helmoed Heitman's Battle in Bangui is the most comprehensive and detailed representation of the events that took place during the Battle of Bangui!! I suggest you read it before commenting further on this matter. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:29pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
FighterPilot: [size=25] Bwahahahahabahahaha… ![]() ![]() So finally the man was killed with his own bitter medicine. God forbid!!![/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:30pm On Jan 11, 2016 |
FighterPilot: Thanks for repeating my same source in full details, the Smith research report on Link Za datalink failure, the weblink you posted still says the same FINAL CONCLUSION as we clearly read..... The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms. Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. " Nice to know SANDF got mere intercom instead of tactical data link . Link ZA is a monumental failure. Fact remains unchanged . 1 Like 1 Share |
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