agaugust:


They all thought it was going to work, but after 2010 mass failure, the 2011 research was conducted on Link ZA true operational performance and final report says in 2011....valid and unchanged till today 2016 :

"Delivery of SDPP’s started in 2005 with frigates and submarines and was followed by LIFT aircraft in 2006, maritime helicopters in 2007 and fighter aircraft in 2009. The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange inter-operability between all these platforms.

Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms ."

Source: Year 2011 research/report http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf

South African military has NO functioning tactical data link. SANDF got intranet/jntercom link

CASE CLOSED
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agaugust:


They all thought it was going to work, but after 2010 mass failure, the 2011 research was conducted on Link ZA true operational performance and final report says in 2011....valid and unchanged till today 2016 :

"Delivery of SDPP’s started in 2005 with frigates and submarines and was followed by LIFT aircraft in 2006, maritime helicopters in 2007 and fighter aircraft in 2009. The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange inter-operability between all these platforms.

Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms ."

Source: Year 2011 research/report http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf

South African military has NO functioning tactical data link. SANDF got intranet/jntercom link

CASE CLOSED
.

jln115:

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/04/03/sa-soldiers-carved-us-up-say-rebels

jln115:

Reuters journalists were not in CAR, Timeslive Journalists were in fact in CAR.

AND your source is outdated, it was written before all the facts were known, first and most obvious fact is that Reuters claimed we took heavy losses, I dont know about you but 13 died out of 200 isn't heavy.

I suggest you read Helmoed Heitman's book Battle of Bangui to educate yourself:

Henry240:


They were the journalists on the ground, they and other news networks on the ground were unanimous in there verdict...... SANDF troops took a beating and fled.


Reading sordid tales of defeated soldiers isn't actually my forte.

Henry240:


They were the journalists on the ground, they and other news networks on the ground were unanimous in there verdict...... SANDF troops took a beating and fled.


Reading sordid tales of defeated soldiers isn't actually my forte.

Henry240:
"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had
broken through a line of South African soldiers during
their push into the city."

patches689:


No single source says that they fled, or even that the broke

Seeking assistance means many things


Yet again you are trying very hard to create a narrative that simply does not exist

Henry240:


- All sources show you fled. SANDF troops took a beating, they they ran away.


"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the
South Africans had asked for assistance from French
forces to help them leave the country."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/
idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African
Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after
taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels,
Reuters reports."


"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA,
told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had
retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe
passage to the airport."

Henry240:


- All sources show you fled. SANDF troops took a beating, they they ran away.


"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the
South Africans had asked for assistance from French
forces to help them leave the country."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/
idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African
Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after
taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels,
Reuters reports."


"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA,
told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had
retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe
passage to the airport."

Henry240:


They were the journalists on the ground, they and other news networks on the ground were unanimous in there verdict...... SANDF troops took a beating and fled.


Reading sordid tales of defeated soldiers isn't actually my forte.

jln115:

just read the fvckinh book!!

patches689:



So they never tested it before 2010?

O wait, they did with german navy

It works:

- testimony from senior officers confirms it
- the paper you are quoting is WRITEN ABOUT HOW IT WAS INTERGRATED

And now - see attached pic from SAAF publication about how it was used

Grow up

patches689:


1. So a "beating" is 13 dead? 6% casualties?

2. Where does it say anything about them running away


How is 200 men being driven back by upwards of 3000 mem, who were stopped dead for 13 hours and who inflicted over 400 casualties shamefull?


Meanwhile, your army of 20 000 men with tanks/artillery/jets/attack helicopters got pushes out of over 46 towns and cities by less than 4000 BH


Now that is humiliating

FighterPilot:



Can somebody allow me to kill agaugust with his outdated 2011 source.


Now here I quote.



The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms. Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. Some of the reasons for interoperability inconsistencies are discussed below. No interoperability strategy. In the requirements, specifications and development philosophies of SDPP platforms no consideration was given to utilising platforms as an integrated joint capability, thus concluding that no clear strategy or owner was driving crosscutting project capability requirements for Network Enabled Defence. Standard evolution. It was assumed that using a single standard would ensure interoperability between platforms.

I close the quote.

So, did you consider the words highlighted in italics and did you ask yourself what was the outcome when a single standard was used.

The source basically concentrates on how did the SA indigenous TDL came about and what challenges they faced. Remember, the final SDPP acquisitions was in 2010 when the last batch of Gripens were delivered and all platforms were in the process of being converted to become LINK ZA compliant.

Now we are not in 2011 and we have moved faster. Reutech still manufactures LINK ZA equipments for SANDF as at today in 2016. So do you mean Reutech is wasting their time and investment if there was no such thing as LINK ZA? I know that your plan is to neutralise this hype of South Africa possessing TDL technology while our counterpart Nigeria is still lacking behind. However, all your noise making will never take away SA TDL technology that it happen to breakthrough in 2012.

Henry240:


I should read the tales of your poorly trained and roundly defeated troops......... That's pure agony, not gonna happen.

patches689:


1. So a "beating" is 13 dead? 6% casualties?

2. Where does it say anything about them running away


How is 200 men being driven back by upwards of 3000 mem, who were stopped dead for 13 hours and who inflicted over 400 casualties shamefull?


Meanwhile, your army of 20 000 men with tanks/artillery/jets/attack helicopters got pushes out of over 46 towns and cities by less than 4000 BH


Now that is humiliating

agaugust:


Nope, it's not humiliation, its war. Everybody dies, loses land, regains land, that is war.

Show us a proof that Boko Haram has only 4,000 men spread across land the size of Scotland....prove your numbers with source !

Boka Had about 500 men in each of those 46 towns and extra men inside Sambisa forest, and two other forests.

500 men x 46 towns alone = 23,000 men.....add the thousands in their Sambisa and other forests...Boko had about 30,000 fighters.



Boko Haram occupied 46 towns for ONLY 3 MONTHS....

= Nigerian army flushed them out of 46 towns in 46 days thus establishing a new world record of Blitzkrieg combat skills

= Boko Haram occupied 46 Nigerian towns, Nigerian army tunred those towns into the graveyard of those Bokos.

= Our army made Boko Haram pay with their lives for that adventure into 46 towns, it cost them their lives, they are dead !

= Nigeria's flag flies in ALL those 46 towns today, Bokos are in their untimely death induced untimely grave.

.

agaugust:


Did you go to school and write exams by yourself or you paid a 'mercenary' to write exams for you to pass ?

Your story is complete grabage, the paragraph was cut off by you, you removed the top part of the paragraph, here is the full paragraph :

"Some of the reasons for interoperability inconsistencies are discussed below :

No interoperability strategy . In the requirements, specifications and development philosophies of SDPP platforms no consideration was given to utilising platforms as an integrated joint capability, thus concluding that no clear strategy or owner was driving crosscutting project capability
requirements for Network Enabled Defence.


Standard evolution . It was assumed that using a single standard would ensure interoperability between platforms. "

" The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms.

Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. "

http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf

The paragraph is actually reporting that the reasons that made Link ZA to fail.....the second reason above is Standard Evolution...an assumed idea that was assumed will make all platforms interoperable, but it disappointed and the assumption failed !

Fool, the report says the STANDARD EVOLUTION assumption is the second reason for the failure of Link ZA, then your retaaaarded skull thinks it was a means of success.

You Southie guys CANNOT escape this embarrassment and national disappointment...

Link Za Tactical Data Link FAILED, your SANDF got mere intercom that MTN can provide cheap !!!

.

agaugust:


Did you go to school and write exams by yourself or you paid a 'mercenary' to write exams for you to pass ?

Your story is complete grabage, the paragraph was cut off by you, you removed the top part of the paragraph, here is the full paragraph :

"Some of the reasons for interoperability inconsistencies are discussed below :

No interoperability strategy . In the requirements, specifications and development philosophies of SDPP platforms no consideration was given to utilising platforms as an integrated joint capability, thus concluding that no clear strategy or owner was driving crosscutting project capability
requirements for Network Enabled Defence.


Standard evolution . It was assumed that using a single standard would ensure interoperability between platforms. "

" The impression by many was that Link-ZA compliance by the SDPP acquisition projects would imply message exchange interoperability between all these platforms.

Disappointingly it was found that most platforms could only exchange information between similar type platforms. "

http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf

The paragraph is actually reporting that the reasons that made Link ZA to fail.....the second reason above is Standard Evolution...an assumed idea that was assumed will make all platforms interoperable, but it disappointed and the assumption failed !

Fool, the report says the STANDARD EVOLUTION assumption is the second reason for the failure of Link ZA, then your retaaaarded skull thinks it was a means of success.

You Southie guys CANNOT escape this embarrassment and national disappointment...

Link Za Tactical Data Link FAILED, your SANDF got mere intercom that MTN can provide cheap !!!

.

FighterPilot:


Somebody please allow me to embarrass this Nigerian fool. Look here this source was obtained from the CSIR and is incomplete. What you have sourced is only introduction of the whole research which is basically about how South Africa came to develop its own indigenous TDL.

The question is have you read the whole research project?

Did you know what happened when South African companies applied other approach to achieve interoperability between platforms?

That which you are making a noise about was just a drop in an ocean of what the research will be based upon. We all did not have the full details of the project and how did the story end. But what I know as in today is that South Africa has fully operational tactical data link which shares data between all platfoms and is called LINK ZA.


You can buy yourself the whole book about that same story and stop making wildest assumption of how the research ended. I paste it for your convenience. That is if you are willing to pay for the book. I have already downloaded it. Read it and see where the duo concluded that it was a success.


http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=507743762209836;res=IELENG

agaugust:


There is NOTHING in your weblink that says Link Za works as a TDL, your weblink is talking about a book on SANDF data link for sale online at $4, there is NO PLACE where it says your data link succeeded.

SANDF is fückïng around with INTERCOM that TELKOM & MTN can provide, ya gat no tactical data link Za, ya gotta basic intercom expanded on your equipment

FINITO, case closed.

jln115:
Read the book.

Henry240:


"Read what book?".

jln115:

Henry240:


It's in quotes dummy....... The events that transpired after the encounter is all the evidence i require.

- SANDF troops brushed aside

- SANDF troops flee

- SELEKA takes over bangui.

FighterPilot:


Let me kill this fool with a final bullet on the forehead. Here is a complete journal. This researcher is stingy and can't pay and here I share the source


http://researchspace.csir.co.za/dspace/bitstream/10204/5355/1/Smith4_2011.pdf

Bwahahahahabahahaha…

So finally the man was killed with his own bitter medicine. God forbid!!![/size]

FighterPilot:


Let me kill this fool with a final bullet on the forehead. Here is a complete journal. This researcher is stingy and can't pay and here I share the source


http://researchspace.csir.co.za/dspace/bitstream/10204/5355/1/Smith4_2011.pdf