plaetton:




Since you neither believe in the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster nor the Toothfairy, pls try to tell us what type of atheism you practice.

The kind of atheism in which ill need to have my brains checked for spending everyday of my life talking about a non existent toothfairy.

You really need to have your brains checked for investing a huge chunk of your time and life, devotedly talking about a 'non existent' God.

plaetton:


How many posts does it take to make a religiotard understand what atheism is ?

Dumbo, It is not a Fxxing PRACTICE.
No one PRACTICES atheism.
It is not a vocation, not a philosophy, not A BELIEF system.

Since you neither believe in the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster nor the Toothfairy, pls try to tell us what type of atheism you practice.

Gosh!
Even though you're not an atheist, and have never been, you insist on defining atheism only your own terms, same way that your lack of knowledge in basic biology allows you to define the theory of evolution on your own Sunday school terms, just so that you can rebuke it.

The very same mindset that allows you to create invisible enemies, so that you can rebuke them and declare victory over them whenever it suites you.

You are suffering, my dear child, from the most extreme and pernicious form of cognitive dissonance.

No wonder PastorAIO used the words " special needs students " to describe you folks.

ok

LoJ:

Hello Winner01. Before we can analyze an opinion, we need to understand that opinion objectively. As far as the definition of Atheism is concerned, I actually think Menesheh is right. Atheism is not the belief that God/gods does not exist, but the refusal to believe in the existence of God/gods. Both psycho-activities are not synonymous. There is actually a world of difference between them.

Believing in the non existence of x is different from refusing to believe in the existence of x. If someone believes that xyz does not exist, then he is the one to prove his belief. But when someone refuses to believe in the existence of xyz, it is the responsibility of those who believe in the existence of xyz to prove otherwise.

Two things,
1. menesheh didnt define atheism but equated atheism to secularism.
2. I am not interested in proving anything to any atheist, ill be on an atheist forum if i wanted to.

LoJ:

If you hear about a flying horse, you may rightfully decide not to believe in it, until trustworthy evidence is provided. Then it is up to those who want to convince you at any cost, in order for you to join their worship of the flying horse, to provide the evidence. Therefore, even the most religious man may also be atheist/agnostic as far as another concept of deity is concerned.

Cheers.

Of course, i can decide not to believe it but ill be as foolish as you are to try to convince other people not to believe it.
My kid brother believes in santa claus but ill be foolish to try to disprove his existence to to him, i believe he'll come out of it with time.

@bolded, what do you mean by at any cost. , Why are you desperate to make sense? Who tries to preach christianity at any cost?

As a matter of fact, what you and your brothers do here daily is more like evangelism at all costs. Its like you need us not to believe in a particular God with you.
The way y'all spam christian threads is enough evidence. This thread is a good example of someone thanking God and it still beats me how militant atheists are invited.
Ill be foolish to comment on a thread that someone opens to give thanks to a flying horse.

This is a religion section where religious people are meant to share with other religious peeps, not a section where you or any atheist should be or be converted 'at all costs'(whatever that means).

You see, all these only confirms more and more how atheism badly needs religion amongst others to remain relevant.

winner01:
The kind of atheism in which ill need to have my brains checked for spending everyday of my life talking about a non existent toothfairy.

You really need to have your brains checked for investing a huge chunk of your time and life, devotedly talking about a 'non existent' God.

My time is mine to spend as I like it.
I don't do worthless supplications you call prayers, neither do I do church. That alone frees up plenty of my productive time.
Don't you agree?

I spend my leisure time dismantling lethal mythologies whenever they are presented as facts in a public forum.

plaetton:


My time is mine to spend as I like it.
I don't do worthless supplications you call prayers, neither do I do church. That alone frees up plenty of my productive time.
Don't you agree?

Yet people who do those come out tops . Or don't you agree ?

I spend my leisure time dismantling lethal mythologies whenever they are presented as facts in a public forum.

That's why winner01 insists that anyone who does that needs his/her brain to be checked . Just like me spending my time talking with people who believe/worship a flying horse for 5 years . Time after time - minutes , hours , days , months , years

You really need a psychiatrist Mr. p

KingEbukasBlog:




You really need a psychiatrist Mr. p

You're right on that one.

Seriously, when in Nigeria, I often do feel that I am the sole lunatic in the marketplace.

plaetton:


My time is mine to spend as I like it.
I don't do worthless supplications you call prayers, neither do I do church. That alone frees up plenty of my productive time.
Don't you agree?

I spend my leisure time dismantling lethal mythologies whenever they are presented as facts in a public forum.

Seems to me like your whole life is a leisure time. I just hope you've converted all your folks, except you are only able to man up on social media, which inturn makes you a timid, hurting and hateful coward.

Change the bolded to 'religion section', so that you can see how much of a desperate nuisance you've become.

KingEbukasBlog:




You really need a psychiatrist Mr. p

You're right on that one.

Seriously, when in Nigeria, or dealing with Nigerians, or reading Nigerian papers or in a Nigerian public forum, I often do feel that I am the sole lunatic in the marketplace.

winner01:


Seems to me like your whole life is a leisure time. I just hope you've converted all your folks, except you are only able to man up on social media, which inturn makes you a timid, hurting and hateful coward.

Change the bolded to 'religion section', so that you can see how much of a desperate nuisance you've become.

Oh gosh!
Here we go again . They never learn, no matter how many times.

I said to you last week, let me repeat it again.

You cannot covert anyone to atheism, simply because it is not a religion.

No atheist here is on a mission to convert anyone.
We are not selling any atheist salvation or atheist heaven.

We are just doing our society a favor by coming on public forums to dismantle, mock, push back and roll back the pernicious influences of lethal mythologies.

Yes, somethings we sow seeds of thought, receptive to those who already have an inner stirring to unyoke from the Lethal mythologies that holds them hostage.

plaetton:


Oh gosh!
Here we go again . They never learn, no matter how many times.

I said to you last week, let me repeat it again.

And you will repeat it next year till your actions say otherwise.

plaetton:

You cannot covert anyone to atheism, simply because it is not a religion.

It definately is. if it isnt, you sure are making it look like one hell of a religion

plaetton:


No atheist here is on a mission to convert anyone.
We are not selling any atheist salvation or atheist heaven.

You dont need to sell heaven,
You are definately selling 'dont believe in God with us, worship yourself alone, make meaning out of a meaningless world and other worthless ideologies

plaetton:


We are just doing our society a favor by coming on public forums to dismantle, mock, push back and roll back the pernicious influences of lethal mythologies.

Again change the bolded to a 'religion section'. If you really cared about its societal influences, you'd be on family, education, politics and other related strongholds of society, to liberate them from sanity.

Boko haram kills people almost everyday, i dont see you on islams section trying to liberate potential terrorists. Maybe favour now has a diferent meaning kid.

plaetton:

Yes, somethings we sow seeds of thought, receptive to those who already have an inner stirring to unyoke from the Lethal mythologies that holds them hostage.

More like seeds of foolishness. The world is a meaningless coincidence, but lets make meaning because humans are meaningful.
You need urgent help.

winner01:
And you will repeat it next year till your actions say otherwise.
It definately is. if it isnt, you sure are making it look like one hell of a religion
You dont need to sell heaven,
You are definately selling 'dont believe in God with us, worship yourself alone, make meaning out of a meaningless world and other worthless ideologies

Again change the bolded to a 'religion section'. If you really cared about its societal influences, you'd be on family, education, politics and other related strongholds of society, to liberate them from sanity.

Boko haram kills people almost everyday, i dont see you on islams section trying to liberate potential terrorists. Maybe favour now has a diferent meaning kid.
More like seeds of foolishness. The world is a meaningless coincidence, but lets make meaning because humans are meaningful.
You need urgent help.

Nigeria is indeed the shining example of " as a man thinketh, so he lives".

A mind suffused with silly delusions will ultimately create a delusional, fragmented society with many contradictions.
This is the story of Nigeria.

I think Nigeria's major problem is how we think, How we view and create our realities.
Religious bullshytes create an enduring false, delusional, fragmented and haphazard imprint on the thinking patterns of Nigerians as they grow up. It allows you, just like I reminded kingebukasblog, to define reality, be it scientific ideas, moral ideas, economic principles and even political ideas only on your own very narrow terms.

This allows you to tactfully dodge or escape the responsibilities of engaging your intellect to rigorous tasking.

It also utterly silly, one that highlights the shallow thinking of a religious mind, to repeatedly insinuate that one who does not believe in the existence of the sky fairy or the Tooth fairy, cannot find meaning in the totality of existence.

winner01:
Evil manifests because man swore his alleigance to the enemy by eating the forbidden fruit (i.e Believing the devil instead of God).

But our loving God has made a provision to redeem man from this terrible mistake by sending his Son to die for our sins so that through Him we might have life and have it more abundantly.

Can you coherentely and precisely give us an account of the existence of evil.

Ask yourself why a sin that two people committed will be on the whole world

plaetton:



I think Nigeria's major problem is how we think, How we view and create our realities.
Religious bullshytes create an enduring false, delusional, fragmented and haphazard imprint on the thinking patterns of Nigerians as they grow up. It allows you, just like I reminded kingebukasblog, to define reality, be it scientific ideas, moral ideas, economic principles and even political ideas only on your own very narrow terms.

Now that you have liberated yourself from sanity, i can bet that you've only been more of a waste of space. Why not just sit and write to yourself how much help you been to your immediate society since you embraced insanity.

plaetton:


This allows you to tactfully dodge or escape the responsibilities of engaging your intellect to rigorous tasking.

Non of the atheists here is intellectually sound, what you have at best is a bunch of vengeful kids that revere any fool who can support their worthless ideologies. i talk with other reasonable, more mature, soundly educated and open minded atheists and i tell you they give more interesting and solid arguments than these nairaland google students, even though they eventually crumble in their arguments.
Difference is, they are objective.

plaetton:


It also utterly silly, one that highlights the shallow thinking of a religious mind, to repeatedly insinuate that one who does not believe in the existence of the sky fairy or the Tooth fairy, cannot find meaning in the totality of existence.

No one is insinuating anything. If you believe in the toothfairy, good for you!!, find meaning to your life!!.
But please dont drag me down your mud of stupid1ty talking repeatedly about the tooth fairy.

BuchiPrinzy:


Ask yourself why a sin that two people committed will be on the whole world

No, you tell yourself a better tale explaining the origination of evil in the world.

Or better still, go ask God Himself.

winner01:
Now that you have liberated yourself from sanity, i can bet that you've only been more of a waste of space. Why not just sit and write to yourself how much help you been to your immediate society since you embraced insanity.

Non of the atheists here is intellectually sound, what you have at best is a bunch of vengeful kids that revere any fool who can support their worthless ideologies. i talk with other reasonable, more mature, soundly educated and open minded atheists and i tell you they give more interesting and solid arguments than these nairaland google students, even though they eventually crumble in their arguments.
Difference is, they are objective.

No one is insinuating anything. If you believe in the toothfairy, good for you!!, find meaning to your life!!.
But please dont drag me down your mud of stupid!ty talking repeatedly about the tooth fairy.

Funny.

So , do you think, do you once again delude yourself that atheists here on NAiraland Owe you something, a perfect, flawless treatise on why they don't believe in Your SKYFAIRY ?
Really ?

You are even more delusional than I thought.

plaetton:


Funny.

So , do you think, do you once again delude yourself that atheists here on NAiraland Owe you something, a perfect, flawless treatise on why they don't believe in Your SKYFAIRY ?
Really ?

You are even more delusional than I thought.

Its even funnier you cant read and comprehend.

I dont need any atheist to 'convince me not to believe in God with them'.

Why not make sense.

winner01:
Its even funnier you cant read and comprehend.

I dont need any atheist to 'convince me not to believe in God with them'.

Why not make sense.

On the contrary, my friend.
Reading and comprehension are my top skillsets.

You insinuated that NAiraland atheists were not living up to the standards of other atheists that you know.

I simply replied that you are delusional if you have certain expectations of NAiraland atheists.

We are only here to dismantle your lethal mythologies one silly part at a time.

winner01:
If you want to hear God. When ever you speak, address God directly.
Whenever you open threads, direct your questions to God not christians.
You cant direct your questions to christians and expect them not to answer you.

How can someone open a thread to show people how thankful he is to God and you come here to say people shoukdnt reply

You keep saying these stale things, i might also need to keep asking you my question;

If you struck Gold, who would you show first?.

lol.. there goes the second God's mouth piece. This one even knows what 'God' the creator ate for breakfast this morning. He knows when God haves his bath and goes to toilet. He speaks with God and God speaks with him. Infact, all his replies to atheists on this forum where inspired by the almighy creator of the universe. Yet, he has not been able to convince a single atheists that God exists. Instead he comes here to show his frustration (probably thats how the almighty creator feels too) on how atheists are bothering his dear religious section on nairaland. poor you.

seems your contact and relationship with the almighty is not helping at all. You have contact with the creator still you are yet to make a single sense in this section. I sometimes wonder what kind of creator you are actually in contact with. Probably a dumb type.

frank317:


lol.. there goes the second God's mouth piece.

Thread Topic: Have You Ever Just Sat And Thought About How Good God Is?
Notice who this thread is directed at

A Stup!d Militant atheist: If I argue with you, dont reply cos you arent God's mouth piece.
How does this ever make sense

Me: But you are addressing people not God
Anticipating a dumb reply aready

The stup!d militant atheist still gives no reasonable answer, and someone will tell me this one too uses his brains ..



Meanwhile on front page: "Boko Haram Kills Six, Injures 8 In Adamawa"

And im still yet to see an atheist (who claims to be concerned about the negative religious indoctrination effects on society and future generations) comment on that thread. Instead they are more concerned with someone who is harmlessly giving thanks to God.


Turns out: Atheists aren't really interested in concerning themselves with falsehood. They are against one God, The true God. Their Creator, The Almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Afterall, why concern yourself with a lie? .

winner01:
No, you tell yourself a better tale explaining the origination of evil in the world.

Or better still, go ask God Himself.

So evil exist because two people ate from a forbidden fruit, this is so nonsensical that even the christian apologist KingEbukasBlog referenced his work said he rejected it as the result of why there is natural disasters or evil. I have told you that if you know anything about the earth geology and geography you will know that most natural disasters have nothing to do with the myths you believe in.

As for asking God when have you heard God speak to you or any body, even you guys who claim to speak on your God's behalf are confused, here on this thread it can be seen clearly, you claim natural evil exist because we live in a fallen world, the other apologist who is also a christians says he disagrees. Who then is right among you two? Who is speaking the mind of this God of your? The reasons are very obvious.

winner01:


Turns out: Atheists aren't really interested in concerning themselves with falsehood. They are against one God, The true God. Their Creator, The Almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Afterall, why concern yourself with a lie? .

And you have demonstrated that your God is true and Allah is false how? Take a look around you. is there anything objective evidence that suggest that Yahweh is real and Allah is false? All your arguments always boils down to emotional tantrums, because you are only emotionally attached to your religious belief not because they are true but because just like the muslims, hindus, taoist etc you are only emotionally attached to your religion. You know and have no truth, there is no truth in your religion that is better than what is found in Islam. If you were born into a muslims family Allah is the God you will be promoting here.

dalaman:


So evil exist because two people ate from a forbidden fruit, this is so nonsensical that even the christian apologist KingEbukasBlog referenced his work said he rejected it as the result of why there is natural disasters or evil. I have told you that if you know anything about the earth geology and geography you will know that most natural disasters have nothing to do with the myths you believe in.

As for asking God when have you heard God speak to you or any body, even you guys who claim to speak on your God's behalf are confused, here on this thread it can be seen clearly, you claim natural evil exist because we live in a fallen world, the other apologist who is also a christians says he disagrees. Who then is right among you two? Who is speaking the mind of this God of your? The reasons are very obvious.

Dude, make your statements and refute them. You r free.

@bolded, Equating natural disasters with evil is totally your statement, you are free to make more comparisons and refute them.

My initial reply to you was "Mutations, disasters are products of a fallen world"
Ill speak on the topic of fallen world when i really have your time.

I never spoke on the fall of man or fallen man.
The apologists also didnt support the fall of man being the cause of disasters.

So man, make your statements and ask your questions. When you're done, refute them and answer them respectively.

dalaman:


And you have demonstrated that your God is true and Allah is false how? Take a look around you. is there anything objective evidence that suggest that Yahweh is real and Allah is false? All your arguments always boils down to emotional tantrums, because you are only emotionally attached to your religious belief not because they are true but because just like the muslims, hindus, taoist etc you are only emotionally attacked to your religion. You know and have no truth, there is no truth in your religion that is better than what is found in Islam. If you were born into a muslims family Allah is the God you will be promoting here.

Look, you keep saying the same stale things, why not come up with something new, something i really have to think about.

Allah here, zeus there, if you really care, you wont invest such time on a particular God.

Guy come up with something new, something worth replying to.

If you no get, i have more profitable things to do.

winner01:
Dude, make your statements and refute them. You r free.

@bolded, Equating natural disasters with evil is totally your statement, you are free to make more comparisons and refute them.

My initial reply to you was "Mutations, disasters are products of a fallen world"
Ill speak on the topic of fallen world when i really have your time.

I never spoke on the fall of man or fallen man.
The apologists also didnt support the fall of man being the cause of disasters.

So man, make your statements and ask your questions. When you're done, refute them and answer them respectively.

We have malicious mutations, diseases and disasters because we live in a fallen world you said, So your God created a fallen world? How did we arrive at a fallen world that was created by your God?

dalaman:


We have malicious mutations, diseases and disasters because we live in a fallen world you said, So your God created a fallen world? How did we arrive at a fallen world that was created by our God?

Dude, make your statements and refute them. You r free.

@bolded, Equating natural disasters with evil is totally your statement, you are free to make more comparisons and refute them.

My initial reply to you was "Mutations, disasters are products of a fallen world"
Ill speak on the topic of fallen world when i really have your time.

I never spoke on the fall of man or fallen man.
The apologists also didnt support the fall of man being the cause of disasters.

So man, make your statements and ask your questions. When you're done, refute them and answer them respectively.

winner01:

Look, you keep saying the same stale things, why not come up with something new, something i really have to think about.

Allah here, zeus there, if you really care, you wont invest such time on a particular God.

Guy come up with something new, something worth replying to.

If you no get, i have more profitable things to do.

I spend time talking about the God idea I was indoctrinated with since childhood. There are many ex muslim atheist on the internet, we used to have some of them here on nairaland. Allah and the Koran is the only God and religious idea they talk about when discussing religion, and the muslims give them the same answers you are giving me, that they are attacking Islam alone because they know it is the only true religion. I have supported christians in attacking Islam here and the muslims said that christians and atheist are attacking islam because it is the only true religion. You guys can no just stand it when the highly revered mythology you have been indoctrinated with is question and debunked, emotional answers are never to far t throw away as defense. All religious people do that.

winner01:
Dude, make your statements and refute them. You r free.

@bolded, Equating natural disasters with evil is totally your statement, you are free to make more comparisons and refute them.

My initial reply to you was "Mutations, disasters are products of a fallen world"
Ill speak on the topic of fallen world when i really have your time.

I never spoke on the fall of man or fallen man.
The apologists also didnt support the fall of man being the cause of disasters.

So man, make your statements and ask your questions. When you're done, refute them and answer them respectively.

How did we arrive at this elusive fallen world of yours?

winner01:

Thread Topic: Have You Ever Just Sat And Thought About How Good God Is?
Notice who this thread is directed at

A Stup!d Militant atheist: If I argue with you, dont reply cos you arent God's mouth piece.
How does this ever make sense

Me: But you are addressing people not God
Anticipating a dumb reply aready

The stup!d militant atheist still gives no reasonable answer, and someone will tell me this one too uses his brains ..



Meanwhile on front page: "Boko Haram Kills Six, Injures 8 In Adamawa"

And im still yet to see an atheist (who claims to be concerned about the negative religious indoctrination effects on society and future generations) comment on that thread. Instead they are more concerned with someone who is harmlessly giving thanks to God.


Turns out: Atheists aren't really interested in concerning themselves with falsehood. They are against one God, The true God. Their Creator, The Almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Afterall, why concern yourself with a lie? .

temper temper!!! you must be smoking mad right now. lol... i feel the heat of your anger.

So can you help me ask God the almighty creator his best food.

let me guess: Blood right?

frank317:


temper temper!!! you must be smoking mad right now. lol... i feel the heat of your anger.

So can you help me ask God the almighty creator his best food.

let me guess: Blood right?

Are trying to be funny or you are just stup!d

KingEbukasBlog:


Are trying to be funny or you are just stup!d

Now this one is crying

plaetton:


It allows you, just like I reminded kingebukasblog, to define reality, be it scientific ideas, moral ideas, economic principles and even political ideas only on your own very narrow terms.

This allows you to tactfully dodge or escape the responsibilities of engaging your intellect to rigorous tasking.

Magic needs a magician . A shot needs a shooter . A thought needs a mind .

To preclude infinite regression the cause has to be uncaused

Ever heard of magic without a magician , a shot without a shooter , a thought without a mind , a design without a designer ?

An action needs a doer

Thanks richirich713

Winner01 , plaetton does want to engage his puny brain , as vooks puts it , with rigorous tasking - how can a conscious intelligent mind be eternal as well as existing as one entity in three entities ?

According to him , the God concept was created by ancient men . Ancient men who could decipher the eternal nature of a creator ? If his puny brains can't understand that after much cogitation then he is not worthy to be tasked intellectually - his sense of reasoning can be described as pre- stoneage because even stone-age men could create and understand perfectly their God-concept and still he of the modern age does not get it .

Plaetton's brain overheats every time he tries to comprehend such tenable concept . Ever seen Plaetton refute the eternal Nature of God?

I rest my case

frank317:


Now this one is crying

- since when did you become a troll ?